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Dodge Ram Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • markhootmarkhoot Posts: 23
    Are the changes to the new 2006 Ram in the fall when it first comes out, or are the changes a mid-model change down the road?? I want the new model with the changes. My local dealer didn't know. Imagine that......
    Thanks.

    Mark
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Older RAMs with the Cummins and the 46RE automatic transmissions had a higher incidence of problems, although in my opinion a lot had to do with overtaxed towing or hauling. Most of the issues on that transmission were due to punky shift solenoids and bad electrical connectors. Later RAMs with the 47RE were pretty reliable transmissions, no more or less than Ford or Chevy. The latest Cummins-RAM use a 48RE automatic which is rated to exceed the engine load. This transmission is very tough and durable.

    Like any automatic transmission, change the transmission fluid and filter on a regular basis and you'll likely not have a problem. With Dodge trucks you MUST use ATF+4 in the transmission. Use of Dexron-Mercon will condemn the transmission to an early grave.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    From what I read the '06 RAMs get a revised and stronger frame and other structural enhancements. I think the new 6.1 liter Hemi will become available, but that might be later in the year. The RAM also gets a larger four-door cab which will be the largest in the industry. I think the suspension and steering geometry will be revised as well.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • I got a great deal last night.

    2005 RAM 1500 SLT QUAD CAB(R) 4X2 SWB, Lone Star Edition, Atlantic Blue and Taupe interior, 4.7L Magnum

    Sticker: $30,285
    Customer Cash: $3,000
    Employee Discount: $3,923
    Because they liked my wife and daughter discount: $2,362

    Total paid: $21,000

    The sales guy was great and the sales manager better...it had to be the best car buying experience that I have ever had! :D

    If I can just figure out the daytime running light issue.... :confuse:
  • danvancedanvance Posts: 13
    I'm being told by all the dealers that you cannot get better than employee pricing right now on the 05 dodge ram diesels. Is that true? The price I'm being quoted is exactly what the dodge website is telling me.

    Thanks
    Daniel
  • reuben1reuben1 Posts: 1
    Can anyone tell me what fuel mileage they are getting with the cummins. Please tell if 4x4, quad etc. Looking at 3/4 ton cummins, and wondering the difference in mileage of a 4x4 versus the 4x2.
  • loncrayloncray Posts: 301
    I've got an '03 2500 CTD 4x4 Quad Cab shortbed, and I'm getting 14.8 mpg right now - mostly city mileage, stop and go, and I've got both a high cap and a lead foot. I had been getting 16.5 mpg before I took off the worn-out stock Michelin tires and put on BFG AT's - my mileage dropped a lot with these tires, and I'll be going back to Michelins at the next tire change.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
  • Due to take California delivery of:
    2005 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie 4x2, New
    Color: Flame red clearcoat, grey interior leather
    Options:
    26H - Laramie package (Hemi 5.7L engine, leather, etc)
    WPG - 20" chrome clad aluminum wheels
    DSA - Limited slip differential
    CMA - heated front seats
    DMH - 3.92 axle ratio

    MSRP: $35,610
    Invoice: $3,1863
    Less: $3,500 rebates
    $3,100 employee pricing
    $1,000 Rebate for Chrysler financing

    Final Price: $25,000 (not incl. tax, lic., doc)

    Hope the info helps. Curious to know if any think this was a good/fair/bad deal

    Regards
  • Correction to posted numbers:

    Employee pricing was $4693, not $3100. It becomes far less of a good deal with that change. Just found that out this evening - I don't take possession of the truck for four more days and have not yet signed contract. Hoping they try to drop a last minute bomb on me so I can feel justified in changing my mind on pricing. Think I'd ask for at least an addtional $1500 off.
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    You should be able to get less than employee pricing on 2005 models right now. I'd shoot for $1500 less than emp price in my area. Not that you qualify, but there is $1500 lease loyalty, $1500 actual employee discount, and dealers are putting cash on the table around here. I'm looking at advertisements at $11k off MSRP to buy a 1500 RAM in Detroit area.
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    I am in the process of trading in my '05 Ram 1500 Hemi with the Daytona Pkg. The truck new was $40,696 before:

    2002 Ram 5.9 Off-Road trade in: $19,414 ( 72,000 miles in 3 years, go figure)
    Military discount: $2200
    CFC discount: $4250
    And because I was paying cash: $8,456 out the door, taxes included(deal of a lifetime)

    Now here I go again: The new '06 truck is the best in class(for now until the '07 GM's come out as they say). The Megacab's back seat is about as big as Lincoln or Cadillac and the new frame is unsurpassable in terms of rigidity and quietness. The ride is like a dream. Gone is the bounciness and steering slack of the 02-05. That pesky Titan doesn't stand a chance now. And Ford, you better cut that contract with Toby Keith while you can because Dodge is coming your way. All Ford can say is well we sell the most trucks. Well anybody can sell, but is it a good truck. Probably not. Ford PR execs are hard at work trying to get the engine plants to get enough "Hurricane" engines available as Dodge is stuffing 6.1L HEMI's in the '06 Rams. Dodge says even though Ford are releasing it, the HEMI will still hold on to it's title for the most powerful pick-up. Word is the Ram 6.1L will have 400-410 hp and 450lbs feet of torque. On the diesel side, Cummins is coming out with 440hp, 760lbs feet of torque in it's new 6.5L I-6. They say that it will be the quietest diesel ever. This comes as Toyota is planning on introducing a high-capacity Tundra next year with 700lbs feet of torque at least. Ford is working with International for a revised 6.0L turbodiesel for an "unspecified" increase in torque and hp. No word from Nissan on a Titan heavy-duty. Looks like Dodge will once again get my money. Here's the breakdown:

    The '06 1500 Megacab Hemi 6.1L 4X4 will be about 42 grand fully loaded with every possible option. At that price and today's gas crisis, expect to pay about $30,000 for this model. Even with this summer's employee and other pricing discounts gone, they still have to cut prices simply because the auto market is in the tank. I will be buying my '06 in December when the 6.1L comes available. Hope this info helps.
  • BLKHemi, What source have you got that the 6.1 will actually be released in december. Or for that matter, EVER, in the ram truck. It has been rumored that it was originally developed to replace the V and then they cancelled the project. Next thing they are releasing it in the cars! I'd like to believe, but I have found no other source that supports your statement that the 6.1 wil be available in any of the trucks this year!!!
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    Note: The Megacab was to get the 6.1 in the spring '06. But since Ford is introducing the Hurricane 6.2L around that time, they pushed back to an late Dec, early January release. I've got my sources from my close friend who in fact is a "higher-up" at DC. Don't know if you knew it or not, the 6.1L actually was designed for the full-size/heavy-duty application around the same time DC was developing the 5.7L. The 6.1L actually was supposed to make it into the revamped '06 Ram 1500, but DC couldn't get the allotment of them with the MDS system which will be standard in the upcoming 6.1L. I've had the oppurtunity to read some of the specs of the 6.1L. Let me tell you, it's no joke. DC has made this engine flexible enough to handle up to 525 hp and an astonishing 650lbs of torque. So the 6.1L is in the pipeline for the Rams. As you know, they already have it kicking butt in the JGC SRT-8. 0-60 in 4.6 sec. You make the call.
  • I have no doubt that the 6.1 will at some time show up in the heavy duty series. It was supposed to take the place of the old V10 and then they shelved the idea for a while. This engine has been on again-off again for 3-4 years now. Dodge has never mated the largest available engine in the 1500 series to a manual tranny. Actually neither has Chevy or Ford. If the 6.1 does go into the 1500, any idea if that will open the door for Dodge to put a manual with the 5.7?
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    I surely hope they would stick that 6-speed from the 4.7L in there. It could knock almost a second off the 0-60, which is already great for a 5500 pound truck. And with the right rear-end, you may have a factory Dodge that could be a complete sleeper. Dodge decided early that when they modified the V-10 for Viper and now SRT-10 duty, that they were not continuing with the V-10 in the pick-ups but yet a big bore V-8. Enter the 6.1L. It's still shocking that they are going to offer it in the 1500. But then again, when the 5.7L HEMI debuted, it was only available in the 2500/3500 series. I thought my Mopar days were over. I thought us Mopar fans would be stuck with that gas-guzzling 360 forever. Then they decided to shake the pick-up world and put it in the 1500. I'm still torn over wether to trade my '04 3500 with the H.0. CTD, or wait for the 6.5L Cummins to come out. Tough call
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    I'm not sure there's an available manual transmission that will take the torque of the 6.1, yet.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    Was talking about a manual in the 5.7. It would be nice if Dodge would put one in there.
  • I believe that there a number of manual transmissions out there that will deal with the torque. It would have to be a pretty heavy duty unit like what used to be behind the old V10 or Ford's 6.8. The transmissions that are mated to the diesel units could be regeared. Its just a matter of if Dodge wants to make the effort. When it shows upo in the 2500/3500 you know that it will be mated to a heavy duty manual as standard equipment.
  • Hey all,
    Does anyone have any idea what a good deal for a 2006 Ram 2500 Diesel would be now that friends, family, employee etc discounts are over? Not counting the (measly) $1500 rebate, would it be dealer invoice? A little below? A lot below? If so, how much? We're probably going to be buying one this month, though can wait if need be. Any help appreciated!
  • cactus5cactus5 Posts: 22
    Hi sparkygh,
    Well I just bought an 06 Ram 2500 Big Horn Diesel about a month ago just before that employee pricing ended.It's an SLT Quad cab 4x2 4 speed auto trans. The MSRP was $38,380 with Big Horn Group discount of $500. I paid $32,380 of course I've been wanting one of these puppys for at least 15 years. The Fleet dept at Avondale Dodge just west of Phoenix really worked with my credit unions broker. :) :) Hope this info helps.That Cummins Rocks ,get one.
  • Hi Cactus5,
    Thanks for the reply. Any idea how the price you paid compare to dealer invoice?
    Thanks!
  • "That Cummins Rocks..."

    Last time I looked, the Cummins was a $5500 premium over the standard V8. For guys who just have to have the Cummins in their personal vehicle that translates into about $7500 in pre-tax W2 earnings. If you make 100K a year on your job (which somehow I doubt), that means you are going to work about four weeks to pay for the Cummins upgrade. You'll have to work a lot more than four weeks for your diesel if you finance and/or don't make 100 grand a year. All of this money and work for a liner-less, medium duty diesel that you are not going to even own after 100,000 miles? Just to impress your friends when you pull into the coffee shop?

    Please don't tell me how you are going to hang a 2K plow assembly off the nose of this $7500 diesel to "help pay for it". That is an even more comical decision that a lot of guys make just once in their truck buying career.

    Does any of this make any sense? Wouldn't seeing a shrink be cheaper?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 66,831
    While you are doing all of the calculations, you left out a few...

    The one that sticks out most in my mind is Depreciation.

    You have to compare resale between the two models, after a certain point in time.. I really doubt the two trucks will be worth the same amount at 2, 3, or 5 years.. So, the extra cost isn't $5500... It is $5500 minus the difference in resale between the two trucks.

    And.. we shouldn't make any assumptions about a person's income (or weight, looks, hair color, beauty, etc, etc, etc..)

    regards,
    kyfdx
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  • Well, yes, a shrink might be cheaper. But he (or she) can't pull 12,000lbs of horses and gear up a mountain :-)
  • loncrayloncray Posts: 301
    BlkIslandGuy, whyfore you attacking Sparky for wanting a CTD? I got one back in '02 that hasn't towed a thing, and only occasionally hauls wood and trash and camping gear. I got it because I wanted a reliable engine that doesn't drink fuel like a Hemi, and I liked the other 2500 heavy-duty stuff. If Sparky wants one, he should get one. So long as he can afford it (it IS expensive compared to lesser trucks), what's the problem?
  • Hi loncray,
    Actually, BlkIslandGuy was attacking poor Cactus5 who had been kind enough to respond to my post asking about current prices people were paying for 2006 diesel 2500's. But I definitely appreciate your defense, and I'm sure Cactus5 does too. Chivalry is not dead (I'm a she, though I don't know about cactus5 :D) , and yup I can afford it, though I'd like to pay as little for it as I possibly can :)
    Thanks again!
  • blkhemiblkhemi Posts: 1,717
    I for one don't tow ANYTHING with my 2500 CTD H.O 4X4. Heck, I use my HEMI to do more chores than I do it. YES, I said it. It's a show truck more than anything. I just like the fact that if someday I have to tow something, I'll be prepared. Oh, I can afford it. I afforded 2 Rams in 1 year this year. Like another poster said, I just wanted a more reliable motor that'll turn 200K miles without any major probs. People are failing to remember that us truck lovers are buying them for personal transport more than work nowadays.

    P.S.- What does a shrink have to do with buying a Ram????????????
  • Kyfdx, you are right. I ommitted depreciation, usually the biggest cost in owning a vehicle in its first few years. Certainly the true cost of something is not what you paid for it but the difference between what you paid for it and what you later sold it for.

    Moreover, I think that the depreciation on a Cummins powered Dodge is probably a lot less than on a gas Dodge. So, you get a lot more money you paid for the diesel upgrade back when you sell or trade. More money than on other options such as maybe the SLT vs. the ST, or a better sterio. A used diesel is very desireable. But even if you get back 50% of the cost of the upgrade it will be 50% of the $5500, not 50% of the pretax $7500 you had to earn to come up with the $5500. That implies that the true cost of the diesel was almost $5000 in pre tax dolllars, after later resale. IMHO $5000 is a lot of money for an engine option for a personal vehicle.

    This decision is much different for someone who can use it in landscaping or some other business application. The diesel option will only cost an initial $5500 (with say $2750 being returned on resale) in post tax money and it will get much better fuel economy at idle (a big part of some commercial engine's duty cycle) than a gas engine, probably last longer towing skid steer loaders around, and so forth.

    YMMV
  • *huge sigh* Okay, guys, we need help. Husband and I bought a 2004 dark slate gray Dodge Ram 1500 SLT quad cab with 20K mi. on it. Raised, automatic, 20" chrome wheels, blah blah blah...doesn't really matter, considering. Anyway, lots of custom stuff done to it...paid $27K after it's all over and done with. We thought he was going to need a truck for work (sheet metal work), and he still might, but we live in Palmdale, CA and he works down in Los Angeles every day, so he's driving at least two hours round trip every day, usually longer. We can make the car payments for sure, but grossly underestimated the cost of gas. Haven't even made a single payment yet and its eaten $800 in gas this month---no way can we do this. What are our options here? Is our only choice to trade it in and be very upside-down on a car loan for more economical car? Is that even possible? Help! Don't yell at us...we know we're dumb. :cry: :confuse:
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