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Sounds like huge improvement. Only major caveat seems the CVT for those buying the 170 hp version. Looks like I-6 version's only with previous 5-speed auto.
CVT ought to be fine, they used Audi's supplier.
Notice the D-pillar is less boxy, it sort of reminds me of the Audi Q5.
Also, they traded off cargo area length for that huge rear seat.
Subaru's sourcing the CVT Chain used by Audi (same supplier); the CVT's apparently built by Subaru.
Pity CVT doesn't have torque capacity for the H-6.
However, reading carefully the posted info at auto123.com, the center planetary AWD system's used only in the top line '10 Outback (R series with H-6 engine). Lesser Outbacks will have AWD systems similar to '09 Forester.
It is nice Subaru is doing CVTs again! I still remember the Justy.
tom
Bob
I still wonder if Subaru will finally give the '10 Forester a 5-speed AT, given how all the Auto reviewers of the '09 have complained about the 4-speed.
Meanwhile, Audi today said it is bringing its A4 Allroad, as a cheaper version, over to the USA later this year to compete against the Outback.
With Audi's reliability and dealer network substantially trailing Subaru, it will be interesting to see how many Outback owners actually switch brands.
Bob
I just ate breakfast there on Tuesday, on the way to Nashville.. I highly recommend it, if you are going through Louisville.. It's just south of downtown, about five minutes off I-64 or I-65.
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Sorry to hear the news. t still sucks, even if he was not well. My thoughts are with you and your family.
Serge
Bob
For shame...such low quality, too. Look at the gaps and uneven seams. They even copied it inside.
I've said this before - if the Chinese manufacturers want to be taken seriously on the world stage, they have to stop atrocities like this from happening.
This will hurt Chery, for example. They'll never earn respect.
Let me get this straight.
You've owned multiple Subies, some new, some used. Many from the failed-head-gasket era of Subaru. Several of them.
You get a new Camry, the pinnacle of reliability.
A head gasket fails, and it's .... the Camry's?
How ironic is that?
At least you're under warranty. Make sure to let them know you follow several on-line communities and your friends are anxious to hear about the resolution to this under-warranty problem is.
Boy I hope they don't give you the run-around.
My Sienna has the wiring harness chewed up by chipmunks but that is not covered under warranty. Less than a year old and it set me back $700 or so.
offers a discussion of various mods for Subarus to make them track ready.
This includes the XTI forester, that Autoblog wants but I seriously doubt will ever come to the showrooms (Subaru apparently couldn't sell a Forester XT with manual).
And while that XTI should perform nicely in the summer, it'll need winter tires if it's to be of any use in snowbelt.
The problem is, by definition we are not mainstream.
They build what will sell. We complain that the manual XT is gone, while Subaru is hiring more accountants to count all the money from nearly double the sales of the mostly-automatic 2009 Foresters.
Finally checking in here and read of your loss. Our sympathies and thoughts go out to you and your family.
Mark
you just HAD to go and throw that out there, didn't you? Now I'll NEVER be satisfied with the new car market. :P
And meanwhile the Turbo goes away from the Outback, the manual goes away from the Forester XT...
Was Subaru selling a good number of Outback Turbos? If so it seems silly to discontinue it.
For that matter, I've yet to see any true performance parts for the '09 Forester from Subaru's performance parts division.
Funny thing is I think 3 or more of Subaru Crew members actually went out and bought Forester XT manuals (lucien included). You would think it was the best selling Forester model.
Nope. There were months were they sold single digit totals for manual XTs. Not sustainable.
-Brian
First off, Automobile and Motor Trend overlap too much, so they end up competing with each other.
Second, automakers have cut their ad budgets to just a faction of what it was a while ago, and those mags live on ad revenues.
The S40 T5 is just turning 15k miles and will be 2 years old in August.
-Brian
I test drove it once and was giggling like a kid, boy that thing was just absurdly quick.
Probably quicker than a sport/cute ought to be, even.
Test drove a 2nd one just for kicks. I was still surprised by how fast it was, again.
I may be wrong but I think it was geared shorter than the WRX. It hit 50mph quicker than a Porsche Cayenne turbo at the time. All the way up to 60 it beat a Lamborghini Countache 5000S.
Like I said, absurd.
Juice, not to admit to being a scofflaw, but once upon a time I found myself at the base of 83N behind a 911 of some sort. The Forester XT did not lose time on it until well past my personal comfort level for responsible speeds. Then I just let it go.
Loosing it leaves a hole in their '10 Outback lineup.
Bob
Bob
I saw only two Subaru vehicles of any kind on our trip down to PA until we reached the Black Hills - they were plentiful in that area, but I did not see any XT's. I saw many, again, in Wisconsin, then again in Pennsylvania, but again, no XT's.
Bob
I know that they do not sit long on the lot here in Fairbanks. Typically, you can find any number of normally aspirated Subaru vehicles, but turbos fly out the door as quickly as they are trucked in, and the local dealership sells all its vehicles at or within a couple hundred of MSRP.
Now that '10 Outback manufacturing has begun, I wonder how many '09 XT Outbacks are left in the USA?
The Outbacks I drove with the 170 HP were very sluggish in passing. Since Outbacks weigh more than Foresters, I'm surprised Subaru has not been able to get a little more power out of that motor for Outback applications (direct injection, where are you ???) :confuse:
From what I've read, Subaru uses laser/seam welding for the B-pillars in their vehicles.
Do they use seam welding anywhere else in the vehicle's structure?
I liked it - lots of personality at a price level where you usually don't see that.
I like the skate-board shaped center console and the color schemes, including the two-tone seats.
I'm sure it's a bit much for some, but it makes, say, an Aveo seem so incredibly boring.
Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd., maker of Subaru cars, has begun building a plant for environment-friendly engines within the compound of its factory in the town of Oizumi in Gunma Prefecture for completion by the end of this year, company officials said Friday.
The new plant will produce a new generation of horizontally opposed engines to power passenger cars that will be put on the market in 2010, they said.
http://www.worldfirstracing.co.uk/
I think it's made by MAN, the truckmaker, in Germany. I have no idea what the use is for.
Bob