Infiniti G35 Coupe

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  • mjvchicagomjvchicago Member Posts: 149
    I live in the midwest (Chicago) and fear how the G35 coupe will act in the snow since it's rear drive. Will it have some sort of traction control on it? Will it be enough to get me around in mild snow? Help talk me down here folks! Thanks!
  • bpraxisbpraxis Member Posts: 292
    Hello everyone and I hope that you are having a great weekend.

    After 10 years of the US dollar being the strongest currency in the world the trend has changed. The dollar is now down this year almost 10% verses other major currencies of the world. The strong dollar has been somewhat responsible for the declining prices of Japanese cars for the past number of years. Now that the dollar strength has reversed our Infiniti G35 coupe may be more expensive than we think. My guess would be that they move the price up quickly after the introduction. This problem really only exists for cars that are produced in Japan such as the G35 coupe.

    I am hoping that I am wrong.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Getting around in snow is more of a driver issue and a tire issue. American cars plowed through snow for 80 years before FWD in the worst climates imaginable. The idea that all FWD cars "get through" and all RWD cars are "lying in ditches" is pure advertising nonsense. If it were true, you'd all starve during snowstorms, since American trucks that bring the groceries are hardly the ideal snow machines.

    If you are in the typical temperate zone urban or suburban American environment (good roads that are often plowed), RWD is good enough if you otherwise really like the RWD car.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    I think the G35 will have all kinds of traction and stability control anyway. That and a good set of snow tire should get you through most urban situations.
  • blacktalonblacktalon Member Posts: 203
    The G35 coupe, like the 350Z, will have both traction control and VDC (active handling). I'm guessing that, with a good set of snow tires, both will handle fine in snow.

    On the other hand, I'm not planning to buy a new car for a couple years, so I'll let someone else be the first to find out...
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I'm a little more concerned about the pricing if this coupe. After reading R&T I actually got a little excited about the G35 sedan and decided to price it out. The base TMV according to Edmunds is a stunning $27k or so! But then I started adding some of the features that would up the content to what you'd see in a base Acura TL, and what I noticed was stunning. The base model comes with a lot of hardware (engine, brakes, etc.) but seems lacking in the interior. Add leather, nav, climate control, power windows, sunroof, sport suspension,heated side mirrors and all, and suddenly the $27k sedan-steal was a $36k sedan... still good for what you're getting, but not the no-brainer I thought it would be...

    Now I'm worried about the coupe that's supposed to start well below $30k... perhaps it'll start well below $30k with cloth, regular halogens, and a 4 speaker sound system? Any speculation on whether the loaded G35 coupe might push into the upper $30ks?
  • ligartligart Member Posts: 109
    The base model comes with power windows and climate control.

    Yeah, if you want the goodies it'll raise the price, but it's the same with BMW. Maybe that's what Infiniti meant by the 3-series being their target? At least Infiniti doesn't charge extra for metallic paint! :-D
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    "At least Infiniti doesn't charge extra for metallic paint"

    Bimmer is so full of crap that they charge "extra" for metallic paint. Metallic paint was standard on my Integra.

    As far as I know, Acura beats out Lexus and Infiniti on price-standard features combo. Nwo, they just need a Lexus IS300/Infiniti G35 competitor (not the RSX-S, something else). Rumors is that they are working on it.
  • rghesselrghessel Member Posts: 122
    <<As far as I know, Acura beats out Lexus and Infiniti on price-standard features combo. Now, they just need a Lexus IS300/Infiniti G35 competitor>>

    ...not only that...they need cars that don't look almost identical to the Honda Accord they were based on...
  • keyrowkeyrow Member Posts: 214
    They need to actually be competitive! No one looking for a G35 type serious performance coupe or sedan will be looking over Acura's offerings. The true competition will come from the BMW 3 series, Lincoln LS, and Cadillac CTS. FWD is NOT ACCEPTABLE, such cars will fall far behind at the first curve/turn!
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    http://www.ncchelp.org/


    I am even more infuriated now than I was the first time I saw this. I will not be considering a Nissan or an Infiniti, sorry.

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    Nissans stance is really low and as the web site intimates, does amount to corporate terrorism. To bad he doesn't have the resource to sue Nissan for cybersquatting. Nissan the Jewish month was around long before Nissan the automobile manufacturer.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    I side with Nissan as it's trademark dilution, plain and simple. "All that is required is that use of a "famous" mark by a third party causes the dilution of the "distinctive quality" of the mark. "

    "There is no need to prove a likelihood of confusion, nor is there any need to show competition between the goods of the plaintiff and the defendant. Therefore, it is possible to use a dilution cause of action against users of the same mark even when the defendant's goods and services bears no relation to the goods or services of the famous mark."

    He can step down now, he's already lost.
  • keyrowkeyrow Member Posts: 214
    if you're a computer geek and not a car fanatic perhaps the "famous" one is the computer company rather than the car manufacturer. Who determines which is the "famous" one?

    BTW, please provide the reference for the quote you gave above. I checked your profile but you chose not to list your occupation. Unless you are a practicing attorney, what is your expertise on this issue?
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Anyone who's typed in "nissan.com" in the last, oh, five years has seen this before. BMW people are just bringing this out now to discredit the G35 coupe.

    Who is the famous company, keyrow? I've never heard of Nissan Computer until I ended up at the website. That said, it's his family name, and he was there first.

    I didn't ask any of you to compare Acura's current model lineup against the BMW, Cadillac, Lincoln, Lexus, or Infiniti entry-level sport sedans. I mean, Road & Track used the TL-S whereas I would have thrown in the RSX-S, but it was a "sport sedan" comparo. Like I said earlier, there has been news of Acura jumping into this segment sometime... and as usual, Honda will be last (even after Infiniti) because they want to see the others beat each other up first.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    Nothing says those folks can't keep Nissan as their family name. But to use it commercially on a product....sorry, no go. Nissan (the car company) registered first
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Do a general search for trademark dilution. It's a pretty simple concept. There are several criteria looked at to determine if the same name will dilute the trademark. In this instance, Nissan wins easily.

    My expertise on the issue? Good grief, we have to give resumes now to post?
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Member Posts: 5,751
    There have been court cases to the contrary however. In some cases a family name around before a trademark has won. And I love the post about the BMW crowd out to discredit Infiniti. That's really well thought out. I'm always for the little guy, especially when I believe they have a legitimate fight on their hands. I'm rooting for this guy.
  • tsixrtsixr Member Posts: 5
    i was reading somewhere in this thread that the g35 coupe is the prelude to the upcoming skyline in the united states. does anyone know for a fact that the skylin is coming to the US..and if it does..how much would they be selling for and will it be a twin turbo v6?
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Some version of the GT-R will come to the US eventually. Its powerplant is a big question mark and how it will be that different from the G35c remains to be seen.

    Considering the Z's putting out 287 HP and slapping to 60 in the mid 5s (according to a car and driver review), then it seems logical to put the G35c with six speed at the high 5s for 0-60 sprints. Now, will nissan supercharge the G35c or shoehorn in a V8 or maybe go turbo 8 on the GT-R? Only Nissan knows. I'm hoping they tweak the current 6 more (with 3.5 liters over 330 HP should be attainable given what BMW does with the 3.2 liter engine) and then slap on some forced induction system so the car's over 400 HP.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    what kind of damage can we do with over 400hp that we couldn't already do with 280?
  • clove0220clove0220 Member Posts: 2
    don't buy nissan or infiniti cars if u've all heard about that a guy with last name, Nissan. Don't buy nissan or infiniti cars Then!
    I want to be only One Nice guy driving G35 Coupe in my TOWN! WOOHOO
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Well then we should all be driving 100 HP TDI cars. Gosh, we can get up to 60-70-80 with a 100 hp car, so there's no real need for 280 HP.

    Oh wait, there's a desire. Hmm, a luxury brand catering to the whims of its buyers. How odd.
  • gotenks243gotenks243 Member Posts: 116
    "Some version of the GT-R will come to the US eventually. Its powerplant is a big question mark and how it will be that different from the G35c remains to be seen."

    According to reports in Japanese car magazines like "Holiday Auto," the 2004 GT-R will have a twin turbo version of the 3.5 liter V6 approaching 400 horsepower. It will also again be 4wd, unlike the Skyline (G35)'s rwd. This isn't official or anything yet, but I'd consider it highly likely.

    Mike
  • cdingcding Member Posts: 27
    I do think this Nissan computer is playing a trick of manipulating public opinions. He only published the opinions that are in favor of him. Don't fall for it. Maybe Nissan motors didn't handle the case very well. But there are indeed people just trade domain names like baseball cards (of course for a lot more money). Just ask yourself, what is the first reason you "accidentally" go to his web page? For Nissan computers?
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Mr. Nissan's problem is that he wouldn't sell the domain name and/or Nissan automotive didn't approach him with a good offer. Both parties are to blame.
  • keyrowkeyrow Member Posts: 214
    I personally think that whoever registered first ought to win. However, I am not a lawyer and laws are frequently counter intuitive.

    Blueguydotcom: No, I have no interest in your resume, but there are several posters who like to stir things up. Mine was in innocent inquiry into how much you actually know about the subject (no flame intended)

    Cding: Of course he is acting that way. Unfortunately in an adversarial position, which most courts are founded upon, one side tries to make the other look like Satan while they are as pure as snow.

    I also doubt it have any affect on anyone here.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    My expertise(or lack thereof) in law is limited to the perfunctory business-based law classes we were required to take in graduate business school. I was quite interested in all of the trademark laws and such as it's quite eye-opening to see what is and isn't allowed. From my limited exposure to trademark dilution, Nissan has a strong case. They have a globally recognized brand/name and the Internet reaches across all borders. If he were simply using the name for a personal site and had no desire to use it for gathering business, I might see his side. But as he's using the Nissan name to grab business through web hits, it seems he can be viewed as diminishing the Nissan brand.
  • wishnhigh1wishnhigh1 Member Posts: 363
    Hey, do you think he is really gathering buisiness for his COMPUTER company by gathering unintended webpage hits for people looking for CARS?
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Stranger things have happened. Look at the success of N'sync.
  • rghesselrghessel Member Posts: 122
    I wanna talk about the coupe...not about Trademark Infringement....
  • wishnhigh1wishnhigh1 Member Posts: 363
    You wanna talk to the CEO, you gotta go through the secretaries first.

    For some people this is an actual issue that contributes to their purchase. For one person, he feels that he should not support a company that has unethical buisiness practices.

    If you wanna talk about something else regarding the G35 coupe, bring it up...if somebody is interested, they will talk.
  • rghesselrghessel Member Posts: 122
    Don't know if anyone has actually seen this car yet, but does anyone know if the back seat will be usable? I'm not looking for a Lincoln Navigator-size back seat...just one large enough to carry non-obese, non-amputee adults on short trips. I've previously had a MB CLK which had a decent sized back seat for a coupe.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    The coupe's wheelbase will supposedly be 112 inches. That should easily swallow some folks. Not a huge backseat but it'll offer some room.


    http://nissannews.com/events/autoshows/infiniti/index.shtml#detroit

  • shiposhipo Member Posts: 9,148
    When I eyeballed them in our parking lot a couple of weeks back, I was struck by the severe rake of the roofline as it passed over the rear seats. Granted, I did not actually get in one, however as you can see below, I would be impressed if anyone over about 5'2" would be able to sit back there without developing a flat spot on the back of their heads.

    image

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • rghesselrghessel Member Posts: 122
    Wow Shipo...you've just made a REALLY good point with that pic. I do fear that the G35 coupe isn't going to offer much of a usable back seat...

    You've given me more to think about... Thanks!
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    I'm pretty tired of coupes that look like quasisedans. Go Infiniti!
  • gregfockergregfocker Member Posts: 39
    All I need is room for two small children in the back and I am good to go with the G35 coupe! I figure 95% of the time I will be by myself or with one passenger while drive the G35c. But for those times when I have the kids and mom already has the SUV, I am still mobile.

    I hope the G35 coupe is as good as it looks on paper! If not, I will wait a few years for BMW to implement their valvetronic technology into their I6 engines (330ci). No doubt BMW will counter attack Nissan/Infiniti (actually leapfrog) but it will take some time (2-3 years) since they are focused on many new vehicle releases over the next 1-2 years.
  • tsixrtsixr Member Posts: 5
    I say, if you are worried about how many people you can fit in a back seat, you are better off getting a sedan. Me, on the other hand, only needs room for two, with that said, my deposit is in and I'll be guarenteed one of the first G35 coupes that come out in october! Yes..i am very excited, my first new car ever!
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I stopped by the local Infiniti dealer last night just to sit in the G35 sedan. I have to concur with the reviews at a kind of shock over the interior quality. The headliner was practically lose and had the solidity of a thinner-than-average piece of cardboard with some cloth wrapped over it. It felt like Lexus-meets-1990s-Hyundai. While it had the feature content of a luxury sedan, its trim quality didn't match up to a Civic DX and that rules it out in my book. I hope that the G35 coupe, like many coupes when compared to their sedan counterparts, puts a little $$ into the interior trim quality.

    Oh, one of the door grab handles (passenger side front) popped out of its little socket when I pulled on it. I am much less impressed with this car than Road & Track was.
  • bodydoublebodydouble Member Posts: 801
    Were you inspired by the movie "Meet the Parents" with Ben Stiller? :)
  • rghesselrghessel Member Posts: 122
    I must agree with sphinx99. In two of the G35s I saw, you could see a faint "punch out" outline in the plastic down the center of the dash (I guess for some unused optional switch).

    I REALLY wanted to like this car. Generally love the exterior. If the inside was up to snuff, would have gotten it.

    C'mon Infiniti -- look at the competition. ANd face it -- you spend 99% of your time with the car sitting on the INSIDE.

    (And based on the mini-brochure, the interior of the sedan has been exactly duplicated in the coupe...)
  • tsixrtsixr Member Posts: 5
    i've sat in a civic DX and the G35 coupe. i hope you were just being sarcastic when you compared the two interiors...=)..i actually like the g35's interior..but to each its own
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    Ok, maybe not the DX. But it's definitely below the Civic LX.

    It's not truly awful but it's pretty cheap compared to the ok ones (Acura, Mercedes) and nowhere near the top ones (BMW, Lexus, Audi). Infiniti could have done much better, I'd be happier with a 240hp G35 with a decent interior than what I saw on the floor.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    The IS300's interior is far below every entry-level lux's.
  • verozahlverozahl Member Posts: 574
    Compared to the other competition (Benz, BMW, Audi, Acura, Lexus), I would expect the Infiniti to at least hang with Lexus and Acura. Gonna hear a lot more "haha, it's just a fancy Nissan" for sometime to come.

    I assume you were at Fred Lavery Infiniti? What else was in stock? Metro Detroit having two Infiniti dealers, Infiniti is one of the rarer makes in the area. I have yet to see a G35 sedan on the road here, and I see everything else. G20, I30, and old-model Q45s, but no G35s yet, and I'm on the expressway every dang weekend between Ann Arbor and Rochester Hills recently.

    Just because Road & Track gave it #1, doesn't mean you can convince Bimmer people to give up their Ultimate Driving Machines...
  • jonalan323jonalan323 Member Posts: 4
    I don't remember where I read this but, the article stated that an adult up to 5' 8" would be able to comfortably fit in the back seat of the coupe.
  • wishnhigh1wishnhigh1 Member Posts: 363
    the fetal position can be quite comfortable, however I have never tried the fetal position upright in the back seat of a car.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I believe it was Suburban Infiniti up in Novi/Northville, which is where I live. They had a bunch of G35s on the lot, along with some I35s and G20s that nobody looked at. There were a few people sitting around making arrangements to buy (in contrast to the deserted Mercedes dealership just a block south) but I haven't seen any G35s on the road either. The exterior was very nice looking although the rear is kind of weird - too high. Hopefully the coupe will slim that down a bit although I don't have high hopes after that picture shipo posted.

    The G35's interior definitely isn't in the same league as the other brands, even the IS300. The IS300's interior is cluttered, schizophrentic and lacking a lot of the plushness, but what's in it is of high quality (even the plastic) and everything is bolted together well. The G35 has a lot of cheap bits that I can't say I've recently seen in any vehicle over $20k... my brother in law's oldsmobile alero excepted of course. They really need to improve the interior. I have a feeling the G35 will be like the IS300, meaning that now is the wrong time to consider buying it. Wait a year on the sedan and coupe, give Infiniti a year to respond to criticism and put on the finishing touches, and buy a 2004 model year Infiniti is my advice. The current G35 is kind of like the first year IS300 - really nice but not quite there. Just as the IS300 got its crowning touches (leather, better interior, 5-speed, numerous upgrades) after a year on the market, so too will the G35, and that will be a sweet car.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    One other thing. The I35 I sat in was proof positive that Infiniti knows how to build a luxury vehicle. The G35 needs the I35's interior.
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