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What's the dealer's name who gives u 1K above invoice?
mine is Infiniti of Mission Viejo.
Thanks.
(btw, the interior of TL is really nice. However, my family don't want to have another Front Engine/ Front wheel drive car. We have a A4 and matrix right now, and I really think the G35 RWD is much more fun to drive than those 2.)
If it helps I got an internet quote on the TL at 31,000 even. I am not sure what options you are looking at but the TL for intents and purposes does not have much in the way of add ons.
I am on the opposite coast from you so I am not sure how much this will help.
Good luck and let me know how you do.
(MSRP and TMV are $35,390, and invoice is $32,366, so, I got it for 2550.01 under MSRP, and 473.99 above invoice)
I will pick it up on Tuesday. I don't think many dealers will offer such deal at this time for 05. However, since it is raining heavily today, and it's nearly the end of the month, + some bargain efforts, they decided to give me this deal, probably only for today...
btw, they are now offering 5K off 04 too...
Good Luck! and thanks for all the information provided!
anyway, the weather really played a major role on determing the price.
However, also because of the rain, I could not check if there were any scratches on the car... it was all covered by rain drops, and the lights weren't birght enough. It is also meaningless to test drive it in the rain.
btw, the invoice price for my G35 is 32366, and i live in SoCal.
Thanks for the information. It looks like you got a really sweat deal. Nice Idea on shopping in the rain. I will keep that in mind as I shop here on the East coast in December.
who was your salesperson at montclair? i was there yesterday too around 3pm. i was looking at the 6mt coupes they had and compared the interior of the '04 and '05s.
according to my readings in the forums, it is really hard to get great discounts on the coupe, and I think the weather really helped me yesterday... (it's shinny today tho
I got the price for $1000 over invoice from Infiniti of Elk Grove(Sacramento, CA). From what I read, I can probably go in there tomorrow and get it for a little be less...maybe. It's the end of the month tomorrow.
007
Just keep bargaining! You might even receieve a better deal than I do! I think the size and history of that dealer will affect their "invoice" price. Theoretically speaking, the more cars the dealer purchases, the more discounts that dealer can reveieve from the manufacture. Try to get it 300 above invoice, and I think that's possible if they are offering 1K above already. I went to Montclair because it is close to my home...
On top of the car, because I want the spoiler with air diffuser(underneath), they want to charge $720 for the parts and labor. Is that fair?
007
Just got the deal over the phone for $600 over invoice. Will pick it up tonite when I get off work. I could have done a little bit better but happy with the price and the saleman have been consistant and nice trying to earn our sale.
The car I am getting is a Seregeti Sand(gold-silver) with Premium C, RWD AT Sedan. I will also be getting a rear spoiler and splashguards as additional options.
Thanks vsix, I have set a price and stood firm on it. It just works with a little patience and is the end of the month.
I will be glad to refer this salesman or dealership to anyone from the area.
007
Anyway, even it was Tuesday, there were so many people in the dealers for some reasons. It seems more and more people can have a better deal for 05 now!
I will be more than happy to give those info out through emails in a safe way of course.
007
The car I want:
2005 G35x AWD
Premium C package
Splash Guards
Trunk Mat
Thank you in advance.
You just want to let them know you have other options. When you leave the dealership, atleast you have tested the water for the car you are interest in. Go to another dealership and do the same thing until you are happy with the deal. Don't tell them you have already been to 1 Infiniti dealer earlier and have failed.
You will never know what kind of deal you can get unless you try and of course do your hw. The end of the year will be an excellent time to buy and hopefully there will be incentives maybe even on the AWD models.
Good luck!
007
Diamond Graphite with Premium, AT, Aero, Sport and Splash Guards.
Got it for $1500 off MSRP. I started at $500 over invoice. They countered that the cars were just coming in and were scarce, and they could sell all of them for MSRP.
The purchasing experience was not as good as I expected when a Corporate "executive trainee" tried to push me into a finance deal that I refused. I prefer buying rather than leasing my cars. He told me that I could not put my full trade-in into the car, that no bank would accept the amount of equity I wanted to put in the car on a finance deal take back $10,000 from the $22,000 for my trade-in and that I should lease the car after taking back this amount and putting $12,000 in to the lease. I told him this was BS, and started to walk.
Another salesperson (local for the dealer) came up and worked out my terms- with much less interest involved than the first person. A bank took the deal.
I do not know if they played bad guy/good guy on me or what, but, this was an unpleasant experience to what should have been a good one when buying a neat car like the G35 Coupe. Apparently, they gave me $500 more for my car then they wholesaled it for, and the first guy was trying to make it back in the financing area?
BTW, the coupe was flawless at delivery and except for some minor rattles that seem gone now remains so.
I'm guessing you were at Infiniti of Tampa, rather than Lokey in CLW. Did they try any other tricks on you beside the financing?
If you are interested in buying a new 05 Coupe or G35 AWD, you are going to have a much tougher time. The demands are really high here.
Elk Grove Infiniti, I have to give those guys two thumbs up for the salesguy and the finance manager. I have no trade-in so was much less a hassle here. What's surprising is they didn't ask me at all if I want any accessories or extended warranty. I just told them I want to finance the car through my credit union for 60 mo. They came back with the the rate and the numbers and I signed the paperworks. Best buying experience for me so far and really looking forward to deal with them again.
I believe the people at the dealer really try to see how much hw you have done and how much you understand the buying, selling, financing process for cars. So if they think you know it, they will most likely insult you less and go directly to the point.
007
Last week I bought a 04 G35 Sedan Auto w/ Prem. Package, Sports Suspension, Trunk Mat and Splash Guards with Diamond Graphite Exterior and Graphite Interior and 30% tint on all windows for $30,700 (about $1,000 under invoice). Also got a great rate of 2.9% for 60 months.
Tried for a lower price but this was the last color/options combo in So CA. Love the car!
My local dealer is offering what seems like a reasonable deal (there is this new Winter Engagement Event that is geared towards liquidating the 04's) , and i wanted to be assured that it really is.
Here are the details.
42 month lease with no money down except the motor vehicle fees.
the MSRP on the vehicle is 35890 which includes the premium package.
15k miles per year.
the payment offered is 389.99 per month
with a trade that is being appraised at $3,000(Plus the 6% tax i'm saving on the trade in value) i can go down to $299.99 per month.
please advise if this makes sense and whether i'm doing ok. i have no idea how to calculate lease deals.
2004 G35X 4 Door Auto
Leather
Spoiler
XM Radio
MSRP 34270
Out the Door $30,000 even
Unfortunately, the car had the full size spare which ate up too much trunck space. Nice car! Seemed like a great deal! I will probably regret not buying it.
Just hope this helps anyone looking at an '04.
Garnet Fire-beautiful in the sunlight,I can't wait to wax (Zymol) in the spring. Took them two weeks to find one!
Willow-gonna be tough to keep clean, but looks great.
Premium/full size spare
wood trim(pull handles & shift knob)
splash guards.
$33,000.00 @4.19 APR.
Pepe in White Plains NY.
Probably could have done a little better elsewhere, but location of dealership is most convenient and salesman was a gentleman. I was also worried about sell 'em and forget about 'em dealerships far away from home.
Well, out for a ride we go!
i got a better offer than that today in Northern NJ...close tor 5.5 k off MSRP...
sticker 36,320...slightly under 31,000
i basically have the deal done...trying to locate the color....email me privately and i will share the source.
just to share, Infiniti is offering 1.9% on a 36 month finance and 2.9% on longer deals for the 2004's...not sure why you are paying over 4%
AAA offered me 4.35 and US alliance offered 4.9.
Infiniti originally offered 4.9, but in order to keep it in-house, business mgr. lowered to 4.1 when I mentioned AAA's rate. Saves me some over the years, anyway.
Just got back from a 4.5 hr negotiation/wait but finally ended up in my G35 Coupe.
Here is what I got:
2004 G35 coupe -
Exterior - Diamond Graphite
Interior - Graphite
Premium Package
Performance Tire & Wheel Package
Aero Package with Spoiler
Aerodynamic Body Kit
For a total of $33500 (not including TTL) - which is the invoice on this car. But was $1500 more than what I had in mind - just wanted the premium package but had to get the Aero and Tire package as it was the only car that was close to the color I wanted.
I also added Dent coverage and GAP coverage just to be safe. Walk out price was $37,021.00. BTW this was at North Houston Infiniti.
Just got back from a 4.5 hr negotiation/wait but finally ended up in my G35 Coupe.
Here is what I got:
2004 G35 coupe -
Exterior - Diamond Graphite
Interior - Graphite
Premium Package
Performance Tire & Wheel Package
Aero Package with Spoiler
Aerodynamic Body Kit
For a total of $33500 (not including TTL) - which is the invoice on this car. But was $1500 more than what I had in mind - just wanted the premium package but had to get the Aero and Tire package as it was the only car that was close to the color I wanted.
I also added Dent coverage and GAP coverage just to be safe. Walk out price was $37,021.00. BTW this was at North Houston Infiniti.
George..
As for the 400 miles, i don't think its that much of an issue, unless it bothers you....Probably being a demo car, i would expect them to give you at least an extra $1,000 off a car that wouldnt have those miles on it....But if the car is otherwise in good shape, the 400 are no big deal.
The offers I've received aren't directly comparable. The car with the miles has nav, which I am kind of interested in, and is out of town, while another offer has no nav, but is local.
Both offers are about $1000 under invoice. Where are you and what did you do to get an offer that is $2500 under invoice? That sounds like a really good deal. Can you give the details, or have they already been posted?
[My original note appeared twice, many hours apart. I have no idea why. It certainly wasn't anything I did intentionally.]
Sewell was quoting only $400 below invoice and Crest was above invoice. You should still get a quote from each dealership. Keep me posted.
Description/MSRP/Invoice
G35x/32500/29893
Premium package/3500/3016
Navigation package/2000/1805
Wood package/250/216
Sirus radio/400/345
Trunk mat/70/58
Destination/590/590
Total/39310/35923
VPP calculation (Description/price/ Comments)
Dealer Invoice/35331.39
VPP discount/-582.97
Dealer options/171.61/Locking lug nuts and wax job
Delivery fee/868.71
Destination/590.00
Marketing Assessment/0.00
Incentives/0.00
VPP Price/36378.75
Clear bra/395.00
Dealer handling/359.00/Pure profit, even according to the sales person
Total +TT/37132.75
Not counting the bra, it worked out to about $815 over invoice, which I figure you could negotiate yourself without much difficulty. We traded a 2002 Honda Accord coupe and they gave us $14350 for it, essentially matching the best offer we had from a private party, though that thing was really hard to sell. We paid cash for the rest. They didn't hesitate, at all, to sell the car for VPP, though they really didn't honor that, once you count all the crap they charge.
The experience was fine, and the deal pretty average, though I was out of my seat headed for the door over the silly $359 "handling" nonsense, but my wife talked me out of it. (Her car, remember. :-)) I don't understand why car people behave the way they do. You ask a question that virtually every customer must ask, and the obviously experienced sales person calls someone to "find the answer". What's the point of that little charade?
A few questions for you who've done this before:
1) Does NNA allow dealers to add their raw naked profit charges on top of VPP? If so, what's the point of VPP? You could do as well just subtracting whatever figure they post on their little signs from whatever you offer and negotiate the price yourself.
2) Are dealers really required to run a credit check even when you're paying cash? This one claimed it was because of the Patriot Act, which I found laughable, but I suppose it could be true. Can anyone comment, and state the section of the act that requires it?
While the experience was nothing you couldn't get from any dealer, the car is really cool! I don't drive luxury cars - the nicest car I ever bought myself was an '86 Mazda 626GT - so I'm really impressed with this thing.
Mark
im in NJ and the dealer i was referring to was Park Avenue Infiniti in Englewood.