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I'm looking to buy in Socal as well, maybe if we buy two we can get a better deal? what do you think? if interested email me back on oz6500@yahoo.com....I reside in LA
You know what I'll be doing this weekend.
Also, my local dealer is very limited incolor choices. Just curious, my top 2 choices are Liquid Platinum and Black. (Although I haven't actually SEEN the LP yet) I've heard positive comments about Blue Slate, but I can't picture blue looking good on this vehicle?
Last year, right before the 07 G35 sedans launched they had a 24 month promo lease with 0.00001 and 66% for 12k per year and .00087 and 56% for 36 month 12k per year on the left over 2006 sedans to move them out. We may see something similar right as/after the G37 hits. That is some cheap money.
Dennis
All in all an enjoyable transaction. I would HIGHLY recommend giving them a chance to bid on your business (even though it is a bit of a drive to get out there).
Thanks
I was just quoted the following deal on a G35 Sport w/ Premium Package:
36 months, 12K/year
MSRP: 37255
Invoice: 34123
Sale Price: 34454
Money Factor: .00158 (buy rate)
Residual: 55%
Drive-Off: 898.06
All those numbers sound great, except he's quoting me a monthly payment of $548.31 -- when I plug those numbers into a lease calculator, I get $511.48. Am I doing something wrong?
Dennis
Z
This forum is a great place to start doing the research. Take some time and go back a month or two and read about the pricing in socal. You can do a search and it will narrow it down for you. I got mine a little over a month ago and got it for 750 over invoice from Montclair. you can find my post with the specifics and my experience posted sometime in early may. someone also posted their experience from Montclair in late may and there pricing. In fact it was his hint that made me get a price quote from them and it worked out for me. Others have posted their deals from thousand oaks and the other services they include. one posted a deal in san diego and I was close to taking a drive out there myself. We are lucky enough to live in an area with multiple infiniti dealers in our area within 50 miles of each other and it works to our advantage. Those in Texas from what i've read are not so lucky and are forced to pay higher prices. What troubles me is when i read a post of someone saying that they want a good price or where they can get a good price from when there has been multiple links about pricing and experiences just a few posts back. We are here to help and I have expressed my thanks to all you helped me with my first new car purchase. I guess what I'm trying to say is take the time to read some previous posts. You will find that they will be very helpful and again, this is a great site and we are here to help each other out
maybe i am being subsophmoric (smile)
Also, since it appears that some people contribute to/read one forum over another, it seemed like I could get the collective wisdom of a larger group of folks if I posted to both forums.
dwynne, thanks for your informative answer in the leasing forum.
As to your deal, as I just posted over there - if you get the $450 charge explained I would say you have a good deal, but consider the 39 month as well
FWW, one dealer is wanting to charge me $300 for locating a 6mt w/tech pack. If I factor in gas and/or a plane ticket $300 does not sound so bad, does it?
Dennis
I have been shopping for a G35 Coupe for some time now. The best price I have been able to find is $300 under invoice. Now, should dealerships also take the $1500 incentive off of this for a total of $1800 under invoice?
Thanks,
Dan
Assuming it is, the dealer has factored this in when they gave you the quote. At times it can be hard to get a rock-bottom deal on an Infiniti - most of the dealers just do not mark them down a lot. The dealer may be making about what they normally do on a coupe sale and they are passing the incentive along - since they may have quotes $1,200 over invoice to you without it.
The VPP price is $250-300 over invoice LESS any dealer incentives. So if you worked for a company that was a Nissan partner or had a friend/relative that worked for Nissan you could get the coupe for $1,500 less on a cash or loan deal.
The 08 coupe is coming in August and it is much, much nicer. Smart dealers would take anything they can get TODAY on an 07 to get it off the lot before the 08 arrives.
Keep in mind if you do the sort-of-cheap lease the incentive does not apply. If they will lease you the car for $300 under using the discounted IFS lease numbers - that would be a nice deal.
Dennis
D PLAN
Dealer invoice
Minus VPP discount (Nissan 2.87% : Infiniti 1.65%)
Plus dealer added options, Security Plus, Infiniti Extended Protection Plan, etc.
Plus 2.5% delivery fee of dealer invoice after VPP discount has been subtracted
Plus destination and handling charge
Minus applicable incentives
Equals participant's purchase price
The way I read that, if where you live the dealer has the $1,500 incentive then you find the invoice less destination, take off 1.65%, add dealer options, if any, add back 2.5%, add in destination, then take off the $1,500 = your price.
The incentive applies to purchased or financed cars (or 3rd party bank leases) and not to IFS leases.
Dennis
That *IS* what I am saying - and I called the VPP folks to confirm it.
You take the invoice less destination, take off 1.65%, add on any dealer installed options, add on 2.5% of this new amount, then take off any dealer and/or customer incentives.
So on a MY07 G35 coupe there is $1,500 dealer money, so your VPP price for a purchase, finance, or non-IFS lease will be about $280 over invoice less $1,500 or $1,220 UNDER invoice price. If you opt for an IFS lease, then it would be the about $280 number. I found several deals that would IFS lease me the coupe at invoice, so the VPP price would actually be higher than I could get on my own. "In theory" the dealer that would lease me the coupe for invoice would sell it to me for invoice - $1,500. When I ran the number for a 3rd party bank lease at $1,500 off VS IFS at invoice, the IFS lease was a better deal.
This should all be non-negotiable from any dealer that honors VPP. Just find one that has the car you want, charges little or no doc fee, and honors VPP pricing.
Dennis
There is a employee price (plan A), employee's immediate family (plan
If you don't know anyone, then plan D would be your only choice. You can look for your employer at this link to see if you qualify.
There appears to be no limit on the number of plan C codes generated by a single employee. At one time Grubbs Infiniti in TX would sell cars to anyone for VPP if they were a member of a certain online forum. I assume they either had permission from Nissan or just had permission from a single employee and a copy of their ID badge. The GM that was doing this at Grubbs is no longer there and I don't think they are doing this any longer. It is possible some other dealer(s) would do this as well, but I have no idea who this could be.
As was mentioned, you probably can do as well/better on a coupe without the VPP code. On a sedan, others have reported prices pretty close to VPP prices - but it depends on the dealer and how much they are motivated to move a car. The nice part about VPP is you just tell them you have a VPP claim code and if they accept them there on that car (dealer's option, not obligated) then there is no negotiation. They do get to charge you a "doc" fee and you to pay (or negotiate) for any dealer installed accessories on the car you choose. So picking a dealer with no or low doc fee and one that does not put a lot of mop and glow on the cars means a good price with 0 hassle.
Dennis
it makes be think that something fishy is going on....
I was quoted:
MSRP: ~36500
Invoice: ~33500
Sale Price: ~34200
Tax not included.
Is that a good deal? reasonable? horrible?
I thought it was reasonable.
Any input would be great.
Dennis
I test drove the very same car last week - I am looking for a 6mt w/tech and they had a base 6mt and the tech journey so I drove both.
Even without the tire package drove pretty nice, the auto is DS mode amazed me with its auto-downshifting when I slower for corners. The tech package is my must have, love the cruise and the camera. Have not driven one at night to try the headlights, but that is icing on the cake.
I love the looks of the TL but less power and FWD takes it off my list.
What colors did you get? Any dealer doc or prep fees on top of the $500? You might name the dealer (but not the salesperson) so that others in your area will know where to look for a good deal.
Dennis
The sedan always seems to way out sell the coupe, yet the coupe is priced a lot higher for the same content. The coupe also enjoys much higher lease residuals and much better real-world resale value.
With the new and "different" G37 coupe coming for 08 direct comparison is not 100% possible, but what is interesting is comparing the newer design sedan against the older designed coupe.
Base sedan invoices for $30,378 with MSRP of $32,965
Base coupe is $32,028 and $34,765 - $1,650 more at invoice.
The more common premium pack sedan is $32,403 the premium pack coupe invoices at $34,484 or $2,081 more.
Even given the current coupe's $1,500 in dealer money, the sedan at invoice is less money. In past years this got you essentially the same car (same power, same tranny, same options, same wheelbase, same weight). For 2007 you get more power and the same economy and the upgraded interior, nicer sound system, available tech package, etc.
Sure the G37 coupe will trump the G35 sedan by offering more power and the same options, but at how much higher a cost?
It would seem Infiniti wants to undercut the BMW and other luxo-sport brand's prices on the sedan but does not feel the need (Lexus and Acura have no v-6 coupes to compete?) on the G35 coupe - so they just sell the same car with 2 less doors for more money :confuse: .
Anyway, just my thought for the day.
Dennis
After having the car for a week my thoughts are as follows. Not sure which features fall into which categories off the top of my head but here goes.
Tech package-the rear camera is the best, the headlights that move before the car do are also pretty handy. The laser guided cruise sounds interesting but havent had the chance to test it in the real world. Blue tooth is the best and great quality(downside is my verizon phonebook cant be downloaded or accessed via voice. The compass in the rearview mirror is overkill and the garage buttons on the rearview I find to be bushleague (should have been integrated next to the sunroof button) Two words: memory seats!
Premium sound pumps pretty loud. not sure entirely necessary as im not one of those guys who is super into stereos. Just for kicks the dial should go to eleven instead of ten.
Nav is overrated and I find distracting. Maybe Ill get more out of it in the future. The voice activation though can be key if I can take the time to learn the exact commands as opposed to winging it. I like the music box feature a lot but the rear disc changer is inconveniently located and is just one large piece of luggage away from getting busted.
Would love to have not gotten the NAV, kept the voice activation and music box and gotten Sirius over XM(I believe the NAV requires XM for the traffic feature)
Love this car. Cant wait to drive to work tomorrow.
Any thoughts on this tire insurance Infiniti is offering for around 400 bucks?
I played with the "laser" cruise on test drives and it works quite well, though you only get a few (3?) ranges to set. You are motoring at 75mph, let us say, and some left lane bandit comes over in front of you doing say 60mph it drops the speed and matches/maintains the set distance. When the FINALLY get over out of your way it resumes your 75mph cruise. You still have to hit the brakes if they come over to close, but otherwise it is very nice.
Ditto on the backup camera - it is awesome! I back one car in under the carport and it will come in very handy at night (now that I am getting old).
I have had 2 OEM NAV systems - in a BMW M5 and in my RX-8 and both do not work/cover nearly as well as a $200 Garmin (I have several Garmin GPS units). I swore I would never buy another OEM NAV system again - but I love the tech package on the G, so it is required. The older G NAV could not be controlled by buttons when the car is moving, I assume the new one is the same way - voice commands only when in motion. It would be a lot easier if they would just put up a "don't mess with this while driving, if you do it is not out fault" message when you start up each time. A pain to have to "OK" that, but then you could use the buttons. Most other systems work like this.
The stereo system is awesome for an OEM system - and having the display tied into it makes it simple to find songs. The changer is pretty "dumb" since you have the in-dash MP3/CD changer. the CF card slot reader (max 256 songs on that, though), the music box, and even the aux in jacks in the center console (for ipod, etc). What more do they think you need?
The voice commands are nice and do work the XM, radio, etc and seem to work well in my quick test of them.
I have XM now, so getting it included is nice - but I may end up installing my SkyFi2 in the car anyway and feeding it in the aux in. It has tune select (beeps and shows you when a favorite artist is on a another channel) and a 30 minute pause/rewind feature that I use all the time.
Blue slate is very nice, and I think was new for 07 so you will not see as many on the road.
Enjoy!
Dennis
Sounds like another high-profit dealer offered "insurance" deal to me. The local BMW dealer and others around here try to sell you a "wheel and tire" insurance package when they sell you a new car. They seem shocked, shocked I say, when you don't take it!
If you are the kind who curbs the wheels from time to time or rips out the sidewalls, etc then it may be for you.
On the other hand, a set of 4 new OEM tires (RE050A on the sport pack cars) will set you back about $800 + shipping from the TireRack (less $100 rebate on a current promotion). Even the journey w/o the tire option is over $600 plus shipping.
In the sports pack sizes there are no other options currently. So you might read the fine print in the warranty and see what it covers and does not
Dennis
G35x /Premium/Nav/Wood Trim
24 months
12k a year
1500 total out of pocket including all reg/1st month/fees
518 incl tax (NJ) - 23 payments
is this a good deal? Thanks!
Z
Dennis
I was told this morning that the $1,500 G35 coupe dealer incentive had expired. They replaced it with cheap financing - 0.9% for 36 up to 1.9% for 60 months.
The current Capital One new car rate is 6.15% for 60 months. So if you had done a new coupe for $34,500 ($36,000 less $1,500 incentive) it would be 60 payments of $669.39.
If you did it now at $36,000 and 1.9% it would be $629.43 per month.
So a better deal if you are financing, worse if you were paying cash. May be the same if you are leasing, since the incentive did not apply.
Dennis
Nav, Premium, Performance Tire/Wheel Pkg.
MSRP..............$37,515
Price paid........$34,514
I thought $3K under sticker was a good deal.
Purchased through Miller Infiniti, Van Nuys. I had a good experience with the Internet manager Dave Marsh.