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Price paid including running boards and cargo cover was $35400 + 6% tax + 162.50 tags.
Traded-in a '01 CL Type-S w/ 93k miles for $9300.
I just bought a MDX with Touring + NAV + RSE + bright chrome steps + protection Package + cargo cover for 38,600 ( price does not include tax + tags + $45 doc fee)
45,569 = MSRP of vehicle + options from the acura.com website (don't figure your options prices from the dealer sheets, they are all different. You have to go off the msrp of the options from the acura website then /2 to "guesstimate
so.....
39,610 = Invoice (dest is always!! included in dealer invoice, to many of you are adding this to the invoice, this is sheer profit for the dealer if you add it to the 39,610 and then negotiate)
512 = $1024 in option MSRP from acura website (cargo tray ,wheel locks, all-season mats)
so ..
39,610 + 512 = 40,122the dealer invoice with options ( like i said divide by 2 the msrp of options to make an educated guess)
-1500 = dealer incentive
-1367 = holdback (3% of the total MSRP!! of the vehicle which in this case is $45,569)
so....
40,122 invoice
-1500 incentive
- 1367 holdback
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$37,255 is the dealers price (this is he has to wait for his holdback till te end of the quarter)
There is no prep fee or BS like that. For any car the prep is already given to the dealer from corporate. Think about t, the dealer is an individual...so he gets a car wrapped in plastic and stuff so why should he have to pay someone to buff it and blah blah. The cost to install the options is different but the /2 thing seems to be in the ballpark and covers that.
I think if you use these steps you can get a better idea of what the dealer is getting the car for and what is covered in the invoice etc...
The price I paid is real but unless you are a smooth negotiater you will never dve into the holdback. This is very rare. I am sure this will help someone, I know this board gave me a base to start ot with so I fell obligated to write something that may be of use. The options priceing is really the only piece which is a guess bt I think the formula is O.K. to get an idea.
My best guess is the dealer made 1,345 off of me which is fine by me.
Are you sure this is the case? Anybody else agrees with OR has the same infor.?
The 3% holdback is what the dealer should get – reasonable. Think about the dealer in the city I live. How much they make from each car: 1300 + 1500 + plus $$$$. They still say that "you are stealing money from me".
Invoice price -- The manufacturer's initial charge to the dealer. The price may not be the dealer's final cost because dealers receive rebates and other incentives from the manufacturer. The invoice price always includes freight, also known as the destination charge.
First off, I want to thank everyone for posting here. A lot of stuff we can all learn from! But personally, im tired of all the games (even from the "internet" sales managers). You would think that since we are contacting them through the web, they would know that we know about the $1500 Marketing Support rebate.
I am looking for a 05 MDX with Nav for the following price:
Invoice 38,260
Rebate -1,500
TOTAL 36,760
Is that too unreasonable? I am even willing to pay cash up front! I know I am in the Southern California market but you would think that since the 06's are knocking on their doors, they would stop the games. Maybe the 3% holdback isnt enough for them?
Does anyone have a good dealer to recommend that I can contact in the SoCal area and stop the games (then maybe I can followup with exact names)? I would totally appreciate the help!! THANKS!
BTW - had someone who works at Honda Corporate confirm that the 07's are when they will redesign. Good luck to everyone!
Thanks for the help. The price you got from Weir Canyon Acura wasnt bad but if you goto CarsDirect.com, the Touring with Nav & DVD is listed at 38,779 (not much better, but a little bit atleast). I guess I am my personal target it Invoice Price minus the 1500. I think the rebate goes until 9/5 so I will keep looking! Let me know if you find better and I will do the same here! Good Luck!
Good luck...
Any suggestions on threads / info trying to compare a new Honda Pilot or other base SUV to used "premium" SUV such as the MDX? Would like to get thoughts on which is a smarter purchase, when considering value, depreciation expected life of the vehicle.
Since we are at the end of the 2005 buying cycle, are used vehicles a better buy now? Any direction on buying a certified or used MDX would be helpful.
Thank You
M
Also, am considering purchasing either an MDX or a BMW X5. Any input on the X5?
Actually, it was closer to $1650 below, but they also charged us a $45 doc fee.
This was an all cash purchase.
We didn't spend that much time bargaining. I don't know if we could have gotten a better deal. Perhaps we could have. My gut feeling was that if we tried, we could have probably negotiated additional $150-$200, if we spent the time.......But then again, we felt we reached a point of diminishing returns where our time was more valuable spent doing other things than to haggle beyond this. Plus we have a habit of keeping cars until they are driven into the ground, so amortized over 10 years, spending more time to haggle over +/-$200 didn't seem to be worth it...
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$36599.00 Touring+Nav ( I believe invoice is 38260)
$45.00 doc fee
$305 license fee
Out the door was $39791, with a sales tax rate of 7.75% (We don't live in LA County, which has a tax rate of 8.25%)
Santa Monica Acura also had the same deal.
Keys of Van Nuys were willing to go 39,691, but we didn't want to drive that far.
We did most of our negotiation via email and over the phone before we drove there.
You should try to ask a price quote from dealers, via carsdirect.com's link to dealers.. Some dealers were willing to give price quote over the internet. Those that weren't, we skipped over and didn't even try to deal with them. We hung up on the dealerships that said refused to give us their "best price". Essentially, we felt that in negotiation, the first person to name a price loses. So we always ask the dealer to name their best price. And if they aren't willing to, we move on.
The internet is a great thing. Essentially, dealers not willing to negotiate over it will lose a lot of business in the future imho.
Well, good luck to everyone. I hope others can get better deal than me.
He came back to me with a match from Onyx Financing (an arm of CapOne, i believe), and told me he'd prefer to go with that one because it would save him some paperwork with no financial benefit.
That sounded a little fishy -- why would a dealer possibly go through the hassle of a third-party finance company without any financial upside.
I'm indifferent as long as the rates are the same -- should I be?
Thanks!
I stopped at the local dealership (only one in WI – well, there are two, but both owned by the same group), and they offered me $37545 for a 2005 Touring, with no NAV or DVD. Based on what I have seen on this board, that seems a bit high. Especially because they have a bunch of MDXs in stock.
Secondly, because we are not in a rush, he said that by waiting for a 2006, the residual goes up, resulting in a better monthly payment (which is true). With this in mind though, will I have less room to haggle because I would essentially be ordering a car in for lease purposes, and not leasing one off of the lot?
Any help in this matter is greatly appreciated.
So far I have 35500 incl dest charge
or lease for 42 month
$436
+tax
+ $595 acquisition fee
+ about $50 doc fee
Any suggestions
thanks
Just wondering.
Also, I had a trade-in. I suspect the dealer had a good margin on the trade-in.
I got a 05 MDX BASE (no touring) for $32,400 price includes: MDX base, with roof rack installed, all season floor mats, cargo cover and cargo tray. The Doc prep of $193.75 and TTL not included.
When you negoitate make sure you include all the extras before discussing price because you do not need to pay full price for the extras.
Sell Price: $38,898
Residual Value (56%) - $24,105
Money Factor (American Honda Finance for August) - .00245
$0 money down
Monthly payment of about $605 (with 3% VA taxes included).
I know Acura has dealer incentives and holdbacks now that bring the invoice cost down to $36k+. Thoughts?
thx
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The dealer that is south of town would not give me a quote. thanks!
The residual is a % of the MSRP, so the % is lower for the Touring/Nav, because the Nav and other extras on the Touring do not have, in proportion to the car price, as good a resale value -- like a lot of other high priced extras on autos. Your $ residual will be higher than the base MDX b/c it's a % of the MSRP, which is higher for the Touring.
I live in NYC, but I got my new MDX last month from Sussman Acura in Jenkintown PA.
Not only the price is at least $1K lower compared with dealers in NYC, they don't give you bs.
I negotiated the deal over the phone, went down there, spent less than 30 minutes there, drove home the new car which had 7 miles on it.
Doesn't this seem excessive?
People on this boad are talking a lot bout the side molding, and you also got your 2005 Acura MDX with the side molding. Can you please tell what is the exact purpose to have MDX side-molding.
I'm planning to make a purchase before $1500 of incentive expires (09/06/05). Your inputs would be appreciate very much.
Thanks,
SAM99