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  • scout77scout77 Member Posts: 5
    thanks for asking and replying. i was told the front differential was the problem by the independent shop and the dealership said only that it would need a new transmission. I was afraid of that as the rpms and noise/vibration were vacillating independent of the gear/speed.
    if you feel there are other questions i should ask/information i should get, please let me know. they said its not driveable right now which ties out with my experience. im just suprised that this would go out. i assume the price of the repair relates to the fact its a 3.0 6 cyclinder awd? it seems expensive.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I don't have a good feel for pricing on transmission repairs (thankfully I have never had to do one) but that cost is in the ballpark for what it cost my friend to replace the transmission on his minivan (he spent $4K). I don't think the H6 or AWD matters in this case.

    Now, if it's really the differential, that's different than a transmission problem. Unfortunately, Subaru puts them in the same case, so you replace both at the same time (or possibly do a rebuild). If the diff is toasted, there's not much else you can do. I assume you changed the diff fluid as called for in the maintenance schedule? I believe it gets changed every 30K miles.
  • scout77scout77 Member Posts: 5
    thanks again - yes, the car has gotten all the regular interval services so it must have been changed. ok, if your friends minivan transmission cost $4k, this repair is in the ball park. appreciate the info -
  • just_philjust_phil Member Posts: 86
    Why not try a salvage yard? You can find a low mileage tranny for a lot less, and in my opinion that's better than a rebuild. There's a web site, car-parts.com, which lets you search multiple junk yard, give it a try. Once you find one that looks ok, it may be a good idea to let your mechanic talk to them.
  • scout77scout77 Member Posts: 5
    thats a great idea, thank you!
  • sixtystackssixtystacks Member Posts: 17
    Thanks for all the replies. I am a bit hard-headed and feel that there is more at stake here than most I guess. Can you tell me in NY - is 10% mandated or just an option?
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Don't know if it is a mandated, but I do know that it isn't an option. The ethanol blend now replaces our gasoline that were once blended with the cancer causing MTBE.

    -Dave
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    133K for transmission failure is probably within the range of most failures, statistically I mean, but perhaps a bit on the low side of the spectrum.

    I don't agree with the idea that how you drain the transmission caused the failure---the real enemy of automatic transmission failure is HEAT above all the others. I'd certainly consider cleaning out your transmission cooler (bottom part of your radiator on your car I believe) if you are going to install a new transmission....or adding an aftermarket transmission cooler, if they make one for your car and IF you plan on keeping this car for another 100K or so.
  • scout77scout77 Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for your reply. I hadn't heard that - about heat. Good to know and I will mention your comments regarding cleaning out the transmission cooler to the shop. Thanks -
  • vasubaruvasubaru Member Posts: 3
    Did you remove the factory cross rails?
  • pathtomaxpathtomax Member Posts: 215
    I am at the point where I should probably replace the timing belt on my 01 Outback 4EAT Ltd. I am at 103,000 miles. Anything else I should consider while they are doing that? The Subaru site lists this:

    Replace Camshaft drive belt
    Replace Drive belt(s)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The front main seal (O-ring) and maybe the water pump.

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Yes, I took off the factory crossbars. They are almost worthless in my experience.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    I wouldn't say maybe on the water pump. It is a cheap investment, and is driven by the timing belt.

    John
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    EVEN *I* was going to say the water pump because if you have the timing belt done they pretty much can do the water pump for little or no extra labor charge ... and at 103,000 miles .... I'd say it was a good call at that point !
    (and *I* don't know all 'that' much about it!)
  • pathtomaxpathtomax Member Posts: 215
    You have all been great, I will schedule it for next week :)
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Just an update, also posted in the F-XT forum...

    Yesterday, the service mgr stopped by with his own vehicle and took my F-XT in. He lives only a few blocks from us, which is fine, saves me a 45 minute round trip. Calls me today: it's not the power steering pump making the noise, it's actually the idler pulley nearby that is the culprit. In fact, when they removed it, it was not able to spin very freely. This is not stocked as well, but may be at the shop by tomorrow afternoon, if not Friday AM.

    -Brian
  • rob_mrob_m Member Posts: 820
    Your guy gets an A++ on customer service and follow-through, Brian. Rob M.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Replying to my own post -- got the left rear wheel bearing replaced on my 05 Outback XT yesterday under warranty, and the car is a million times quieter now. That bearing was definitely toasted!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Wow, wheel bearings issues, still, even after the pattern of failures in the 02 and earlier Forester and 01 and earlier Impreza. :(

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    About the only thing different is that Subaru is using an entire hub/bearing assembly on the 05+ Leg/OB, as opposed to separate press-in bearings on the earlier cars. So, we may be seeing a whole new type of failures. Thus far it seems to be confined to early-production 05 models, so let's hope it was a small batch of bad bearings and not a widespread design issue.

    I think the replacement hub unit was about $250...
  • smittynycsmittynyc Member Posts: 289
    Our Forester's next-door neighbor in our parking garage is a 2005 Saab 9.2X. We know the owners well; they live on our floor and they cat-sit for us and we plant-sit for them.

    One of their sets of parents is visiting from Eastern Europe. They took the 9.2X to the Finger Lakes and Niagara Falls and Toronto. Last Sunday night, after a weekend in Toronto, they go to head home and the car won't start. It had been garaged in some sort of self-serve municipal facility.

    The wife had to be at work, so she and the parents get back to NY somehow, and the husband stays behind to get the car fixed. After a few minutes in the shop, they tell him a belt was broken, they're very surprised, they'll fix it in a jiff.

    You can probably guess where this is headed. When the car is ready to go, the tech takes him aside and tells him they found a dead rat in the engine. (note: this was relayed to my wife by his wife and then to me, so some salient technical details -- which belt, was it just a rat or a rat's nest, where was it found, etc. -- are missing.)

    It seems like the rat was from Canada -- they didn't have any problems along the way, and the car was not used once for three days in Toronto. Still, I'm a little worried about our garage.

    As impossible as it probably will be for most of you to envision this existing in the Bronx, our building and parking garage back up to a pretty thick stand of woods/wilderness. There are skunks and raccoons in the garage and on the property all the time. I don't know if that explains why I've never seen any rats or mice.

    However, depending on what's happening with my wife's schedule, we frequently will not drive our car at all on weekdays, and I know idle cars are inviting homes for rats. Anyone else out there ever have this problem, and any suggestions on how to preemptively stave off rats (we keep an immaculate car, at least to the extent that is possible with a three-year-old)? Juice, what was your solution to the chipmunk problem?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Replacement wires and a prayer. :D

    Never did try to catch him, but he hasn't done any more damage, at least.

    Pics for fun.

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    No doubt, I hope they send a survey this time, as they will surely get all positive marks now. I will be calling the service manager tomorrow and thanking him again.

    Got the XT back tonight. All I can say is W O W. :surprise:

    I must have been living with the whiny idler pulley for a while, I can't remember my XT being this quiet. They also changed the oil, which wasn't necessary since I use Mobil-1, but a nice thing anyway.

    -Brian
  • joeannejoeanne Member Posts: 1
    Hi I need help. About a year ago the drivers door on my subaru impreza became very hard to close it seemed the little piece of black plastic going between the car and door was warped and it eventually snapped. It cost me over $100.00 To get it fixed. Now my other three doors are becoming more difficult to close and I am afraid I am having the same problem. Is this something I could fix on my own or do I have to have this done by a professional? Thanks for you help. JoeAnne :cry:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Hmm, I'm not sure what part you're talking about. Any chance you could snap a photo of it?

    -juice
  • mevansmevans Member Posts: 2
    I have a 1999 Subaru Forester that I bought 3 months ago. It's been running excellent until a week ago when the check engine light started coming on. The light comes on for a day or so then goes off for a day or so. I've checked all fluid levels, gas cap etc but can't find anything wrong and the car seems to be running normally in every other way.

    The only other thing is that I had a friend look at the car a week ago and he found that one of the spark plugs had popped out (the rubber part that snaps in) and there was a bit of moisture around the plug. We dried it off and snapped it back in. I've been checking and it's still snapped in place properly so don't know if that has anything to do with it.

    Is this something potentially serious that I need to get looked at right away or...? Anyone have any insight?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well, given the plug wires were loose they're probably worn and need to be replaced. Keep in mind they are 7 years old now, and it is a wear-and-tear item.

    Access is a bit tough, but go ahead and change the tires and the spark plugs while you're at it, unless they're new. In fact, since the boot was loose, who knows what debris got in there, I'd change the plugs regardless.

    It would help to know the code, do you have a reader? I bet it's registering a misfire.

    I bought a code and that's what mine was. It ended up being - get this - a chipmunk had chewed on my spark plug wires! A new set, plus new plugs, cleared it up. I actually replaced the ignition coil as well, about $80 from an on-line Subaru OE parts wholesaler.

    -juice
    PS Get the grease that helps estalish a good connection and keeps the area water-free. Also use the thread lock stuff on the new plugs.
  • just_philjust_phil Member Posts: 86
    Did you mean to say 'anti-seize' instead of thread lock? That's what I've always used myself and heard from others.
  • leo2633leo2633 Member Posts: 589
    In addition to changing the tires, I'd also change the wires!

    Len
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I hope he meant anti-seize!!! I would not put Loctite on there for sure!! (OK maybe as a joke on someone)
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,399
    juice is not having a good day! First the twenty-something empty nester (on another thread) and now the tires & loc-tite.

    juice, get some rest!

    The grease he was referring to is dielectric grease. Apply it around the ID of the spark plug boot. It will make removing the boot much easier the next time you change plugs.

    Jim
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    zzzzz :surprise:

    Yeah, dielectric grease on the boot plug, anti-seize on the spark plugs. I need more sleep.

    -juice
  • leo2633leo2633 Member Posts: 589
    ...and wires on the tires!

    Len
  • tanagertanager Member Posts: 16
    I have a 2004 Subaru Forester XT. I purchased it pre-owned back in April of this year, and it came with 56,000 miles on it. I've added an additional 10,000 on it so far (finally have a reliable car that can take me on a road trip or two). Recently the sunroof, which I love, started acting up. Two things have occurred: It either does not respond at all to the pushing of the button to open or close it, or: When I do attempt to close it, it gets close to the end of the track and then bounces back open, as if someone's arm is caught up there or some debris is in the track. I believe it's the "pinch protector" that it unnecessarily activating.

    My car has been to the dealer once, where they supposedly cleaned the track and adjusted the wind deflector. The problem occurred again within a half-hour of leaving the dealership. Today it is back at the dealer, and I was told that the motor would need to be replaced, because the pinch protector sensor is part of the motor and there is no other way to resolve the problem.

    Do I have any other options? Subaru is going to charge me $546 for parts and labor. Isn't it odd that the sunroof motor would go bad after only two and a half years? Thank you for any help you can provide.
  • nickelnickel Member Posts: 147
    I had a Forester for 5 years, and the only serious problem it had was the sunroof lowering 1/8" under its trail. My dealership, even out if warranty, found the problem so bizarre that they covered everything, sending the invoice to Subaru for them to repay. Try with the dealership, at least for the labor.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    The way these systems work is by detecting a slight overload on the motor, which it assumes means there is an obstruction. I do think you could consider this a defect at 66,000 miles, but I would like to hear Subaru's take on this -- in other words, why would they assume it's not a defect. The thing is, you're out of the basic warranty so maybe they don't care if it's a defect or not.

    It wouldn't hurt to call the Subaru 1-800 number, open a case, and see if they can help on this (who knows, they might offer to split the cost with you). I don't see this as being a normal repair to expect -- certainly not a wear/tear item (other parts of the moonroof maybe, but not the motor overload aspect). And the bill is pretty steep too!
  • tanagertanager Member Posts: 16
    Thank you for the suggestion. I just called the 1-800 Subaru number and they did open a case for me. It's certainly worth a shot. At the very least, the service manager at my dealership told me that if the new motor does not fix the problem, I would be refunded.
  • rexy01rexy01 Member Posts: 3
    Hi,

    Just having a little trouble with my 2001 WRX.

    I went to take off from a stand still and my engine started to die and run rough like it was struggling for fuel or losing spark. After a couple of minutes the problem went away and the car ran perfectly but the engine light come on. This is the second time it has happened within a week.

    I have taken the car in to have it diagnosed on each separate occasion and they have said that the air flow meter is faulty. Will a faulty MAF make the car run rough?

    I will add that the engine was cold and the car has had a couple of modifications such as after market exhaust, blow off valve and the standard air box has been removed and replaced with a pod filter.

    Cheers
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Bingo, we have a winner. The exhaust is probably OK, but there are potential problems with the BOV and the intake.

    First, is your BOV atmospheric? If so, your car is running rich unless you have modified the ECU mapping. The stock BOV recirculates blow off air back into the intake. An atmospheric BOV would dump it all, but the engine still thinks the air is coming in and meters fuel accordingly. I think the car will run OK for the most part, but you'll waste fuel and have a sooty tailpipe, and the long term effects of running rich can be bad (clogged Cat, uneven heating/cooling of the engine and exhaust components, soot deposits, etc). The only reason people go with an aftermarket atmospheric BOV is for the cool sound (and that's not a legit reason in my opinion). In any other respect, the stock BOV is better.

    The MAF sensor may have been damaged when the aftermarket intake was installed, or it's possible that the aftermarket intake is producing funky airflow that causes erroneous readings. Early WRX's were prone to these issues if I remember right -- espeically if it's an oiled filter that may have sent droplets downstream onto the MAF wire. Either way, the MAF reading will be incorrect if your BOV is atmospheric. None of the data I have seen shows an improvement from aftermarket intakes, and many are worse than the stock air box and resonator (which tunes the standing wave pattern in the intake for positive pressure). Here's another case where stock is probably better.

    By the way, are you in the US? If so, you have an 02 WRX -- there was no 01 model.
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Pretty good post Craig-- you covered 95% of what I was going to say.

    Any mass air meter can develop misreads from turbulence, and if he does have a 2001 WRX (non-North American), I think that they did have the less-than-reliable hot film MAF sensor. Atmospheric blow-off valves are extremely problematic unless you have added the necessary aftermarket electronics meant specifically to use on. The stock computer definitely won't like it.

    ~Colin
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Pretty good post Craig-- you covered 95% of what I was going to say.

    Thanks -- that's my most productive work this week then!
  • gaddgetgaddget Member Posts: 1
    '01 Forester, manual transmission w/optional viscous coupling limited-slip differential, 98k miles. I too experience the thud-thudding sound/feel on tight turns--more prominent in reverse. It sounded so similar to failing CV joints, that I miss directed the service department. When they test drove--no noise/no problem. After paying more careful attention, the issue is definitely in the rear and only after driving for a while. Worst is immediately after highway travel. I live very close to my dealer, that's why they couldn't detect anything. No action taken yet. Hopefully it's simply that the "viscous" material has broken down and can be changed. I'll post again once I know for sure. Comments appreciated.
  • starrmanstarrman Member Posts: 8
    Have a 2001 Forrester with 116K miles on it and would like to put Slick 50 in it the next time I change the oil. Any pro or con's on using this in a Alumin engine? I have used this stuff B4 in my domestic car; but never in a foreign car. Any suggestions for a high mileage car?
  • wrhhwrhh Member Posts: 1
    My daughter's '97 Impreza Outback Sport with 72K miles has just started to squeak from the front end during left turns (but not when turning right). Is it simply a lubrication issue or something more severe? Thanks.
  • helenschohelenscho Member Posts: 1
    My 02 legacy is doing same, bucking in low gears , especially when cold. What solved your problem

    Helen
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Never ever use Slick 50 or any other oil additive in any car.

    ~Colin
    IT guy at a big oil company
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I forget which agency (FCC?) it was but they were forced to withdraw a lot of exaggerated claims they made about what their products can do.

    Plus, at 116k miles, I don't think I'd change anything. It's too late to go synthetic, all the seals are used to dino oil.

    Just keep up with the regular schedule.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I suspect the wheel bearings. Have those inspected.

    I say that because WB failures were far more common than AWD or differential issues. 10 times more.

    -juice
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    It was the FTC - I just happened on this link yesterday and it has a collection of FTC/Class Action/Slick50 documents.
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