Our neighbor had a white 69 BelAir 4dr sedan as a company car. It had a blue interior, ac, 307, blackwalls, dog dish wheel caps. It looked like a company car.
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andre, here's the rear seat (original) of that '67 Catalina two-door sedan:
A friend of a friend once showed me a window sticker he had (don't know why or where he got it) for a '67 Catalina two-door sedan sold at Gault Pontiac, the dealer in my hometown. It was that light turquoise and a 3-speed manual, those things I remember. Very unusual.
Although the Catalina has this trim standard, I always would have bought it optionally on the Biscayne and Bel Air two-door sedans of that same era--the bright-metal door window and quarter window frames. Really dresses a Biscayne (especially) up.
Back then, I actually prefer a Biscayne to a Bel Air. The Bel Air interior may be slightly nicer, but Chevy always just slapped that horizontal molding smack down the middle of the body side on a Bel Air, but the Biscayne had a subtle piece of rocker trim in at least some of those last years.
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'73 Nova spied today. Original color, anyway. The "Hooker Headers" decal and two very big exhaust tips out the back tell me the car isn't the 250 six, or 307 V8, it originally was based on no engine displacement numerals above the front side marker light.
Gotta say, the simplicity is appealing to me. Back then I hated that the base hubcaps were moons, but I grew to think they were better-looking than other cars' dog-dish caps.
This car had a column shift visible to me, but I don't know what transmission.
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'73 was the year I finally started liking those Novas. Now I always liked the '62-67 Chevy IIs, but the '68-72 just never did it for me. If it was based just on style, I think '73 would be the year I'd start preferring a Nova over a Dart or Valiant. I still like the Mopars overall though, because they're roomier and more comfortable to me.
I think one reason I liked the '73 Nova is that it had a more expensive look, in my eye at least, than the '72 and earlier models. But, in base form like that with no chrome and the dog dish hubcaps, it has a muscular look about it.
drove home from Boston to NJ today and hit the jackpot. early on in CT (on I84) a couple of beetles. A 70s something gold super beetle (I think there was a model specific to that color) with the fancy wheels. And driving along, a light blue with white top convertible (looked like a late one).
then further down, I passed a bunch of entries from the "great race". Some cool stuff. an MG T series. 65 Mustang. Volvo PV544. a couple of 1940ish domestic 2 doors. something from the 20s (badge on the hood as "Royale") race car style (like a Stutz Bearcat design). And quite a few more that I can't remember.
RE.: The '62 409--just last evening I spoke to an 88-year-old guy at a cruise-in, who was a friend of a friend. He said he had bought a new '62 409 and that he had to adjust the solid lifters every other week. He traded on a new '64 Corvette, which he said dealers had just started dealing off of MSRP on.
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The '62 is handsome to my eyes....better than the '63 and '64. I like the instrument panel too, and they dropped the radio pushbuttons that spelled out "CHEVY" which I thought was cheesy on the '61. It's a Chevrolet, not a Chevy II or Chevy van, LOL.
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Spotted at a cruise-in in Norton, OH yesterday. For andre. It's a mutt, but a Catalina two-door sedan is a rare sight, especially in '67 and '68 vintage (this is a '67). The rear seat was in good shape, anyway, original/authentic.
I'd walk past 100 Corvettes and Tri-Five Chevies to check this one out. Having said that I wouldn't want to daily it and 2 minutes behind the wheel would probably be plenty.
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The '62 is handsome to my eyes....better than the '63 and '64. I like the instrument panel too, and they dropped the radio pushbuttons that spelled out "CHEVY" which I thought was cheesy on the '61. It's a Chevrolet, not a Chevy II or Chevy van, LOL.
The '62 seems just about perfect to me, with the proportions, the overall styling/details, etc. I also like the '61 a lot, so I'd have a hard time choosing between the two, based on just styling. The '61 still seems like it's trying to shake off a bit of that 50's excess, although I find that appealing. But, the '63/64 just doesn't do it for me, quite as much.
Me too, andre. I like the '61 best, but I'd have to have it with a non-pushbutton radio, LOL.
I just don't like the '64 at all. I know I'm weird; it's a lot of people's favorite. I know ab348 agrees with me though!
You were talking Chevy II's a little earlier. I don't hate the first Chevy II styling, but it's a bit dumpy to me. I don't like the instrument panel. I like the '65's best of that era, and could like owning one, just because I hardly ever see or saw them. I never liked the '66 and '67 at all.
I got tired of the '68-72 as I saw them everywhere and all the time. But I can see why they sold well. Styling and size. I do like the '68 with the Custom Exterior option which got rocker and sill moldings with a blacked out section. I like that. For some weird reason I also like that it's the last one called a "Chevy II".
The SS option that year, unlike previous years, was only mechanical upgrades with some very slight exterior ID. You could get a Nova SS in '68 with dog-dish caps and otherwise-Grandma's-Nova lack of trim. I think that's sorta cool.
We had a new '73. Great value--in fact, at the lower end (six cylinder, stick), they weren't really more expensive than a similarly-equipped Vega. Ours was assembled poorly and had a lot of visible fit-and-finish things. But low price can forgive some of that. It looked nice. I didn't like how there was a visible seam in the front fenders for how they squared-off the front end that year.
Back to the '68--I liked the Rally Wheels were still the five-slot type, same styling as Corvette. There's a magazine ad out there with a really nice '68 Nova that shows those Rally Wheels with no trim rings. Obviously an early example or a goof, as I never saw a single, solitary Chevy of any model, including Nova, with those five-slot Rally Wheels without trim rings.
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Tri-five Chevys--I agree, pretty commonplace, but at the same cruise-in I saw that Catalina two-door sedan, there was a bone-stock '56 Bel Air two-door sedan, that popular white-over-turquoise, wide whites, full wheel covers, six-cylinder! It was lovely. If it had been a '57 I wouldn't have even walked over to it.
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Here's that '68 Chevy II ad where the Rally Wheels don't have the trim rings. Ack! But I really like the car other than that. I'll look at the brochure but I feel quite certain those wheels included trim rings, so not sure what happened here. No engine displacement ID in front of the front fender side marker light, so this car is either a 230 six or a four-cylinder.
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(video quality improves a little a few minutes in)
Monday June 20, 1983.
Maybe mostly relevant to people in or who have lived in the Puget Sound metro:
In the 70s-90s I think, WSDOT documented many local highways, and some of these films have been uploaded to YT. These are pretty interesting to watch, if you're into that kind of thing - fun seeing what changed, what didn't, and the car spotting is pretty active too.
I watched this one recently, it caught my eye as I have driven that stretch of road countless times. A few pretty rare cars to be spotted, some road sections seem almost identical today, some are almost unrecognizable, a couple sketchy drivers (the more things change), and the traffic volume on a weekday is amusing (please don't show me west Bellevue house prices).
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A friend asked me to drive his 1974 CS to Columbus for Oktoberfest 1990. Such a sweet car. I'm just lucky to have spent a week driving it.
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Very nice '62, but I'd have to paint the wheels black as were factory. Someone along the way thought red wheels looked nice with the red interior.
And replace the wheel covers with OEM? Those aren't OEM are they? Maybe they are. I didn't see them in the original brochure, but they seem to be on several of the 1962's I find on google.
There is a conversation about this Laser on CCBA. I thought I'd share a picture, the only one I have of my friend's 85 Laser Turbo. It had the cloth interior, 5sp, ac, base wheel covers. His brother had a black on black Laser Turbo, leather, low profile (for the time) tires on alloys. They used to race each other and they were pretty evenly matched, both fun cars. The front VW van was his brother's, the camper in the rear was a 74 camper van bought new by his mom and they traveled and camped all through out europe with it. To the far right you can see my 85 Alliance convertible and behind that his 82 Rabbit diesel truck. The picture was taken in 87 just north of Pittsburgh. Yes it was raining, as usual.
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Just promoting my hometown's Heritage Days Super Cruise on July 2. Never know what lurkers from a nearby area might see this!
This is a very large, very nice show in my small hometown of Greenville, PA, in the NW part of the state, only ten miles from the eastern border of Ohio. There's usually about 700 cars in nice weather; there have been more.
Motor Trend TV has been here on a few occasions before, presenting a half-hour show on the 'Speed' channel about the show just last year.
The show is along the town's Main Street and side streets. Studebakers are welcome of course and we have in past years attempted to get Studebakers to congregate at the east end of the show (Main St. and College Ave. intersection).
Here is the Facebook page info on the show: The Heritage Days Super Cruise is now in it’s 15th year, taking place each year in July. Since it’s inception, organizer Bill Sumners has rallied as many as 1000 cars along the main street, as thousands of spectators fill the streets to view these historic treasures! Classic cars of every description will line up to show off their wheels while 5 DJ’s entertain spectators along with epic prizes, 50/50 raffle. No pre-registration is required for exhibitors, just show up the day of the event. The first 200 cars to register on July 2nd get a FREE CRUISE T-SHIRT! Questions? Contact: Bill Sumners: 724-699-3510 or bsum59@hotmail.com
The "official" hours are 2-6 but I can tell you unequivocally that if you wait 'til 2 there won't be a place for your car. People start showing up with cars at 8 in the morning!
Admission is free. There is a nice, smallish museum about Greenville's railroad history (the town was the headquarters of the Bessemer and Lake Erie Railroad until the mid-'80's and was also serviced by the Erie Lackawanna and Pennsylvania railroads; the Bessemer and Erie passenger stations remain). Nice historical museum too, featuring a 1913 Empire automobile built in Greenville. Both museums are within walking distance of the show; the train museum especially so.
I plan on having my '66 Cruiser there.
The town had a one-family-owned Studebaker dealership from 1926 through 1968. The building still stands. The grandson of the dealership founder is invited back this year to give a trophy in one of the categories, and will be joined by one of the dealership's mechanics who worked there from 1948-66.
For information before or on the day of, you can also contact me, Bill Pressler, here, in an IM, or by phone at three-three-zero, two-two-one, five-nine-o-four.
Thanks!
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In a similar vein, I thought I'd throw it out there, that the GM show in Carlisle is this weekend. Starts today actually, I think. I'll be up there tomorrow, with the Catalina.
Edit: Time for a couple of gratuitous "my car is all cleaned up for the car show" pics Or, rather "about as cleaned up as it's gonna get..." Thankfully, that color is very forgiving when it comes to showing dirt and such.
Thanks Xwesx! Last I checked, weather's supposed to be nice tomorrow. I just checked the weather...supposed to be sunny and 89 degrees in Carlisle, so hopefully I don't get too crispy!
Thanks Xwesx! Last I checked, weather's supposed to be nice tomorrow. I just checked the weather...supposed to be sunny and 89 degrees in Carlisle, so hopefully I don't get too crispy!
Take the sunscreen, sunglasses, and a nice wide-brimmed "old man" hat. Be prepared to win Best of Show.
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a nice blue RX7 (the last version). Don't see many of those out and about.
and parked in front of the local American Legion, a 40s (maybe very early 50s?) I think Ford PU. rounded cab and a coffin nose hood. Looked to be in nice shape. That was parked next to a 65 Mustang convertible that had the top down.
Didn't the RX-7 sort of meet the same fate as the Toyota Supra, towards the end? Basically, evolving into a bit of a high-powered supercar that came with a huge price tag and high insurance premiums, that killed off demand? Of course, the market for small, sporty coupes, regardless of price, was tapering off anyway.
Didn't the RX-7 sort of meet the same fate as the Toyota Supra, towards the end? Basically, evolving into a bit of a high-powered supercar that came with a huge price tag and high insurance premiums, that killed off demand? Of course, the market for small, sporty coupes, regardless of price, was tapering off anyway.
It was that and getting a bad reputation for reliability issues, expensive repairs and mechanics who didn’t know how to work on them. A work colleague had one, loved and hated it for those reasons. IIRC he did a lemon law buyback from Mazda as he bought it new. The car was continuously in the shop for engine related issues.
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Went to a small town car show yesterday. Held by the local old time hot rod club, so it was a lot of boomery wingadinga 70s-90s era custom festival, which can be well done, but I like original looking cars. A few still caught my eye:
55 Olds with a striking color and option list (wires, and I recall it had power windows):
A stock 40 Willys, rare as most of these were rodded/dragged before I was born:
Neat buggy:
This was unexpected (early non-turbo car, dunno about those wheels):
Unrestored 64 Beetle with a similar color Vette for contrast:
Patina - this is what happens when a car sits outside in western WA for probably 50 years (IIRC it had 1969 registration stickers):
The plood (I assume) trim kit in this 88 Vette amused me, can't be stock, I hope:
Here's something kinda weird. I need to get some new sway bar components for my Catalina. I've been having issues finding anything online, so I figured I'd try eBay. I went to enter the car's information, and this popped up... I don't remember ever entering in any vehicle info into eBay, yet here it is. But, even stranger, that Monte Carlo got totaled in June of 1998, and I sold it for parts by the end of the year. I don't think I even knew what eBay was in 1998! Similarly, the Dart wasn't getting used much, and stopped running around November of 2001. I might have bought something on eBay by then, but definitely don't remember ever ordering anything automotive.
BTW, does anyone know a good source for sway bar parts? The mechanic had told me that it was going to need new swaybar links, bushings, and the brackets soon. I don't think the links and their associated parts are too hard to find, nor the bushings. But the brackets up front that mount the sway bar to the frame, those seem hard to come by.
Online I tried eBay, Amazon, Fischer/Federated auto parts, Rock Auto, Advance Auto, and no luck. I tried Ames auto parts, which specializes in Pontiacs, and think I might have some luck with them. Now I just gotta crawl under it and measure how thick the sway bar is.
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Is that badge indicative of a replica? Because it looked legit. Interior too. But I didn’t analyze it too close.
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Is that badge indicative of a replica? Because it looked legit. Interior too. But I didn’t analyze it too close.
I'm not certain. But, I took a look at the 356 Registry, one time, and there were all sorts of original looking 356s that were replicas.
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A friend of a friend once showed me a window sticker he had (don't know why or where he got it) for a '67 Catalina two-door sedan sold at Gault Pontiac, the dealer in my hometown. It was that light turquoise and a 3-speed manual, those things I remember. Very unusual.
Although the Catalina has this trim standard, I always would have bought it optionally on the Biscayne and Bel Air two-door sedans of that same era--the bright-metal door window and quarter window frames. Really dresses a Biscayne (especially) up.
Back then, I actually prefer a Biscayne to a Bel Air. The Bel Air interior may be slightly nicer, but Chevy always just slapped that horizontal molding smack down the middle of the body side on a Bel Air, but the Biscayne had a subtle piece of rocker trim in at least some of those last years.
'73 Nova spied today. Original color, anyway. The "Hooker Headers" decal and two very big exhaust tips out the back tell me the car isn't the 250 six, or 307 V8, it originally was based on no engine displacement numerals above the front side marker light.
Gotta say, the simplicity is appealing to me. Back then I hated that the base hubcaps were moons, but I grew to think they were better-looking than other cars' dog-dish caps.
This car had a column shift visible to me, but I don't know what transmission.
I think one reason I liked the '73 Nova is that it had a more expensive look, in my eye at least, than the '72 and earlier models. But, in base form like that with no chrome and the dog dish hubcaps, it has a muscular look about it.
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then further down, I passed a bunch of entries from the "great race". Some cool stuff. an MG T series. 65 Mustang. Volvo PV544. a couple of 1940ish domestic 2 doors. something from the 20s (badge on the hood as "Royale") race car style (like a Stutz Bearcat design). And quite a few more that I can't remember.
https://www.greatrace.com/route
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I just don't like the '64 at all. I know I'm weird; it's a lot of people's favorite. I know ab348 agrees with me though!
You were talking Chevy II's a little earlier. I don't hate the first Chevy II styling, but it's a bit dumpy to me. I don't like the instrument panel. I like the '65's best of that era, and could like owning one, just because I hardly ever see or saw them. I never liked the '66 and '67 at all.
I got tired of the '68-72 as I saw them everywhere and all the time. But I can see why they sold well. Styling and size. I do like the '68 with the Custom Exterior option which got rocker and sill moldings with a blacked out section. I like that. For some weird reason I also like that it's the last one called a "Chevy II".
The SS option that year, unlike previous years, was only mechanical upgrades with some very slight exterior ID. You could get a Nova SS in '68 with dog-dish caps and otherwise-Grandma's-Nova lack of trim. I think that's sorta cool.
We had a new '73. Great value--in fact, at the lower end (six cylinder, stick), they weren't really more expensive than a similarly-equipped Vega. Ours was assembled poorly and had a lot of visible fit-and-finish things. But low price can forgive some of that. It looked nice. I didn't like how there was a visible seam in the front fenders for how they squared-off the front end that year.
Back to the '68--I liked the Rally Wheels were still the five-slot type, same styling as Corvette. There's a magazine ad out there with a really nice '68 Nova that shows those Rally Wheels with no trim rings. Obviously an early example or a goof, as I never saw a single, solitary Chevy of any model, including Nova, with those five-slot Rally Wheels without trim rings.
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Monday June 20, 1983.
Maybe mostly relevant to people in or who have lived in the Puget Sound metro:
In the 70s-90s I think, WSDOT documented many local highways, and some of these films have been uploaded to YT. These are pretty interesting to watch, if you're into that kind of thing - fun seeing what changed, what didn't, and the car spotting is pretty active too.
I watched this one recently, it caught my eye as I have driven that stretch of road countless times. A few pretty rare cars to be spotted, some road sections seem almost identical today, some are almost unrecognizable, a couple sketchy drivers (the more things change), and the traffic volume on a weekday is amusing (please don't show me west Bellevue house prices).
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Maybe they are. I didn't see them in the original brochure, but they
seem to be on several of the 1962's I find on google.
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There is a conversation about this Laser on CCBA. I thought I'd share a picture, the only one I have of my friend's 85 Laser Turbo. It had the cloth interior, 5sp, ac, base wheel covers. His brother had a black on black Laser Turbo, leather, low profile (for the time) tires on alloys. They used to race each other and they were pretty evenly matched, both fun cars. The front VW van was his brother's, the camper in the rear was a 74 camper van bought new by his mom and they traveled and camped all through out europe with it. To the far right you can see my 85 Alliance convertible and behind that his 82 Rabbit diesel truck. The picture was taken in 87 just north of Pittsburgh. Yes it was raining, as usual.
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Two better pics of my 85 Renault Alliance DL convertible.
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This is a very large, very nice show in my small hometown of Greenville, PA, in the NW part of the state, only ten miles from the eastern border of Ohio. There's usually about 700 cars in nice weather; there have been more.
Motor Trend TV has been here on a few occasions before, presenting a half-hour show on the 'Speed' channel about the show just last year.
The show is along the town's Main Street and side streets. Studebakers are welcome of course and we have in past years attempted to get Studebakers to congregate at the east end of the show (Main St. and College Ave. intersection).
Here is the Facebook page info on the show:
The Heritage Days Super Cruise is now in it’s 15th year, taking place each year in July. Since it’s inception, organizer Bill Sumners has rallied as many as 1000 cars along the main street, as thousands of spectators fill the streets to view these historic treasures! Classic cars of every description will line up to show off their wheels while 5 DJ’s entertain spectators along with epic prizes, 50/50 raffle.
No pre-registration is required for exhibitors, just show up the day of the event. The first 200 cars to register on July 2nd get a FREE CRUISE T-SHIRT!
Questions? Contact:
Bill Sumners: 724-699-3510 or bsum59@hotmail.com
The "official" hours are 2-6 but I can tell you unequivocally that if you wait 'til 2 there won't be a place for your car. People start showing up with cars at 8 in the morning!
Admission is free. There is a nice, smallish museum about Greenville's railroad history (the town was the headquarters of the Bessemer and Lake Erie Railroad until the mid-'80's and was also serviced by the Erie Lackawanna and Pennsylvania railroads; the Bessemer and Erie passenger stations remain). Nice historical museum too, featuring a 1913 Empire automobile built in Greenville. Both museums are within walking distance of the show; the train museum especially so.
I plan on having my '66 Cruiser there.
The town had a one-family-owned Studebaker dealership from 1926 through 1968. The building still stands. The grandson of the dealership founder is invited back this year to give a trophy in one of the categories, and will be joined by one of the dealership's mechanics who worked there from 1948-66.
For information before or on the day of, you can also contact me, Bill Pressler, here, in an IM, or by phone at three-three-zero, two-two-one, five-nine-o-four.
Thanks!
Edit: Time for a couple of gratuitous "my car is all cleaned up for the car show" pics
Or, rather "about as cleaned up as it's gonna get..." Thankfully, that color is very forgiving when it comes to showing dirt and such.
a nice blue RX7 (the last version). Don't see many of those out and about.
and parked in front of the local American Legion, a 40s (maybe very early 50s?) I think Ford PU. rounded cab and a coffin nose hood. Looked to be in nice shape. That was parked next to a 65 Mustang convertible that had the top down.
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The early ones were light and relatively simple. Not much power but fun to drive
When they became Uber complicated high powered Grenades that were a nightmare to work on (turbos not such a good idea) it was downhill. And expensive.
They also got really expensive to buy. That never helps.
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55 Olds with a striking color and option list (wires, and I recall it had power windows):
A stock 40 Willys, rare as most of these were rodded/dragged before I was born:
Neat buggy:
This was unexpected (early non-turbo car, dunno about those wheels):
Unrestored 64 Beetle with a similar color Vette for contrast:
Patina - this is what happens when a car sits outside in western WA for probably 50 years (IIRC it had 1969 registration stickers):
The plood (I assume) trim kit in this 88 Vette amused me, can't be stock, I hope:
Topolino and Anglia/Thames vintage drag cars:
Some general views:
I don't remember ever entering in any vehicle info into eBay, yet here it is. But, even stranger, that Monte Carlo got totaled in June of 1998, and I sold it for parts by the end of the year. I don't think I even knew what eBay was in 1998! Similarly, the Dart wasn't getting used much, and stopped running around November of 2001. I might have bought something on eBay by then, but definitely don't remember ever ordering anything automotive.
BTW, does anyone know a good source for sway bar parts? The mechanic had told me that it was going to need new swaybar links, bushings, and the brackets soon. I don't think the links and their associated parts are too hard to find, nor the bushings. But the brackets up front that mount the sway bar to the frame, those seem hard to come by.
Online I tried eBay, Amazon, Fischer/Federated auto parts, Rock Auto, Advance Auto, and no luck. I tried Ames auto parts, which specializes in Pontiacs, and think I might have some luck with them. Now I just gotta crawl under it and measure how thick the sway bar is.