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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I just zoomed in and yup, looks like it says "TRANSAUD"
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited August 2024
    Finally, this morning I spotted something worthwhile. Out on Maryland's Route 3, I was able to get this '55 Dodge Coronet, in the side view mirror. Here's a shot of it going past...apologies for the windshield reflection/distortion: Here's a slightly better pic, as it got further ahead: And, to round it out, the parking lot at the old folks' home is always a good place to spot one of these:

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited August 2024
    Speaking of '55 Dodges--I don't think I posted this before, but too lazy to check--at my hometown's big "Super Cruise" this year, which I couldn't attend, there was this '55 Dodge Coronet with 6,020 miles and original paint, sold new by N.W. Moyer Motors in town, the Dodge dealer from the thirties to 1961. My classmate (female) asked me several years back if I knew a way she could locate a car her grandfather, N.W. Moyer, sold, and I told her I had no idea, basically. She is coming up for our class reunion in September and has contacted the owner to see the car. He has all the new-car paperwork. She's excited to see it. Her daily driver, whatever it is now, has N.C. plates "MOYERMTRS".
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    Looks like the car you saw, andre, is a higher trim level than the Moyer car, as it has the chromed fin additions on the rear quarters.
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284

    Does that say "TRANSAUD" on the dial? I can't quite tell. I do remember when radios back about then used to say "ALL TRANSISTOR", when apparently that was still a big deal.

    Found a pic of one online and the word is "Transaudio".


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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I know somewhere in that garage, is the old AM radio from my '69 Dart GT. One of the first things I did with the car was pull it out and put in an aftermarket stereo with AM/FM and a tape player. But I know I was smart enough to hold onto the old radio, for posterity. I also found the radio from my old '88 LeBaron turbo coupe. I had pulled it out once that car was shot, and hoped to figure out how to put it in my '79 Newport, as they were identically sized. But, when I pulled the one out of the Newport, the wiring in back was different enough that I never bothered to mess with it.

    It'll be interesting to find what other ancient crap is in that garage, as I dig deeper into it.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    On that note, the radio in the fintail, a Becker unit from 1964, is a "Europa TR" - I am pretty sure the TR also stands for transistor, as that was still relatively new tech at the time. I am pretty sure my dad's 60 Ford had a tube radio.


  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited August 2024

    Looks like the car you saw, andre, is a higher trim level than the Moyer car, as it has the chromed fin additions on the rear quarters.

    Yeah, when I took those pics of the car, I thought it was a higher trim level, like a Royal or Custom Royal. But, a couple minutes after I took those pics, we overtook the car in traffic, and I was able to read "Coronet" on the front fender. I never realized that triple-tone Dodges were that common in '55. I know a few brands tried them, but I figured that they realized two toning was enough, and triple-toning was overkill. But, when they mix greens, blues, and/or aqua colors, with a white roof, it does look kind of nice.

    As far as I know, the only triple-tone DeSoto was the limited edition Fireflite Coronado for 1955. It was only offered as a 4-door sedan, and was aqua/white/black. The only ones I've ever seen in person had an aqua body, and either a black roof and white spear, or a white roof/black spear. But, you could put each of the three colors anywhere you wanted. I think it looked best with an aqua body, white spear, and black roof, like this:
    If you reverse the spear and roof, the black just seemed like it clashed with the aqua, to me: Not to mention, the black tends to highlight every flaw in the sheetmetal.

    And with a black body, having two contrast colors just doesn't look right to me: The white body, with two contrast colors, just doesn't feel "right", either: I think they only built around 500 Fireflite Coronados, total, so I'm surprised they gave you that much choice in the color!

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited August 2024
    I always thought those '55 and '56 Chrysler and DeSoto cars look obese. I'm thinking we discussed this before, but at the beginning of the show "One Day At A Time", they had a wagon version. I always remember a wagon sitting outside a local, dumpy transmission shop in my small hometown in the '70's, for years. It was a faded red and white.

    I kind of like the color palette of black, white, and turquoise in the one car you pictured, above.

    Duh, guess all four are those colors! LOL The third pic I mean.
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    I wonder if those fins have been removed from that low-mileage Coronet from my hometown?
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited August 2024
    The sales brochure is showing the '55 Coronet without those chrome extensions, so I'm thinking they were an extra cost option you could specify, to dress the car up a bit.
    https://oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Dodge/1955_Dodge/1955_Dodge_Brochure/1955 Dodge-04.html

    With the '55-56 Chrysler/DeSoto, I'll admit I'm not really a fan of the '55 Chrysler Windsor/New Yorker. I just don't like that front-end; it just seems a bit clunky. Although, the C-300 and Imperial are nice. On the DeSoto, I kinda like how the two-toning on the side droops down towards the rear. I think it actually makes the car look a bit slimmer.

    One detail I'm not really a fan of is on the cheaper '56 models...the Windsor and Firedome, they had chrome headlight bezels that jutted out a bit. The more upscale Fireflite and New Yorker (and 300B/Imperial) had body-color bezels, that were peaked, and gave the front of the car a bit of a forward thrusting look.

    But, for whatever reason, I think the jutting chrome bezels manage to work on the '55 DeSoto, and the C-300/Imperial. Just not on the Windsor/New Yorker.

    I also like how they opened up the rear wheel openings on the '55-56 Chrysler/DeSoto. If they had a more skirted look, like how just about everyone else was doing (except for Buick, perhaps) the Chrysler/DeSoto would have looked REALLY chunky!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    The owner coud have done those extensions chromed as a personal preference.
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited August 2024
    Looking at the Dodge brochure a bit more, the only models I'm seeing that show those chrome blades on top of the rear fenders are the Custom Royal Lancer hardtop coupe and the Custom Royal convertible. None of the Royal models are sporting it. And even the Custom Royal 4-door sedan doesn't have it: https://oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Dodge/1955_Dodge/1955_Dodge_Brochure/1955 Dodge-02.html

    And oddly, even though the cars are labeled as "Custom Royal", on the illustrations themselves, they just say "Royal" (or "Royal Lancer")
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    A couple things out on the road on a not as hot as recently but still warm and maybe just a tad muggy day - VW Thing (top down), MB SLC with all windows down, MB W123, mid 60s Dart, very clean 68 Country Sedan.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580

    @fintail said:
    On that note, the radio in the fintail, a Becker unit from 1964, is a "Europa TR" - I am pretty sure the TR also stands for transistor, as that was still relatively new tech at the time. I am pretty sure my dad's 60 Ford had a tube radio.

    My 62 Galaxie had a tube radio. It didn’t take much time to warm up and play. It worked well and got good reception in rural Virginia.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    sda said:

    @fintail said:

    On that note, the radio in the fintail, a Becker unit from 1964, is a "Europa TR" - I am pretty sure the TR also stands for transistor, as that was still relatively new tech at the time. I am pretty sure my dad's 60 Ford had a tube radio.

    My 62 Galaxie had a tube radio. It didn’t take much time to warm up and play. It worked well and got good reception in rural Virginia.


    I want to say the radio in the 60 didn't work - or we couldn't get it to work. I have a vague memory of bringing a small boombox with us in that car. I recall the 68 Fairlane had a Philco AM radio (one of its very few options), and it worked perfectly. 66 Galaxie had an aftermarket unit installed by the prior owner that worked fine.

    Fintail's radio worked when I bought the car, but the radio conked out just before y2K. I eventually sent it in to Becker, who is still in business, now specializing in rebuilding old radios. For maybe $300, they overhauled it, and it still works perfectly.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    Our '62 Fairlane had a factory radio that quit working. We had the car through early '67. Not sure if it would've been a tube radio or all-transistor. I do remember my Dad's friend whom I called "Uncle Charlie" took it out to repair and I remember the holes in the dash for what felt like forever. Dad commented it was taking "Uncle Charlie" a long time, too.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Haven't seen one of these in a while. Classic period GM color.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    Aurora 3.5 V6 Shortstar. I had a 2001 Aurora 4.0 that I really liked.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    I gotta say, I'm really liking this '79 Grand Am coupe with factory 4-speed. I love factory appearance and this car is it. Yes, it has faded door panels like they all did about then.

    I like the 'regular bodied' midsize coupes better than the 'specialty' coupes then.

    I always liked the exterior size and interior use-of-space in the '78 GM midsize cars.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61900779/979-pontiac-grand-am-bring-a-trailer-auction/
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,197
    edited August 2024

    @uplanderguy said:
    I gotta say, I'm really liking this '79 Grand Am coupe with factory 4-speed. I love factory appearance and this car is it. Yes, it has faded door panels like they all did about then.

    I like the 'regular bodied' midsize coupes better than the 'specialty' coupes then.

    I always liked the exterior size and interior use-of-space in the '78 GM midsize cars.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a61900779/979-pontiac-grand-am-bring-a-trailer-auction/

    Holy cow, I really like that, too! I had a ‘79 Pontiac with a 4-speed, but mine was a Sunbird.

    Would be fun to bring to cars and coffee meets.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    I love that Grand Am. curious what it ends up going for.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    a couple out and about today. a 63 or so big Pontiac 2 door on the highway (got caught in some rains!) then later, a chrome bumper MGB GT getting gas. and on the road, an early 30s style coupe hot rod (I'm sure it was a glass body).

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    Looks to be from around 1955, maybe the grand opening.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited August 2024

    I saw this on the turntable at Summit Racing’s retail store near me this morning. 1970 Coronet R/T.

    While I prefer the ‘69 styling, this car in Plum Crazy just stopped me in my tracks.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,683
    I drove by that location (assuming same location, unless they have others outside their base) last year and had a burning desire to stop, but I know that would have gone over like a lead balloon, so I didn't even mention it. :D
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    It's just off I-76 in Tallmadge, OH, slightly east of Akron.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    watched a bit of the Mecum auction on MT TV last night. They sold a Superbird (green over green, interesting combo). 4 speed, I assume a hemi since I think it went for $2,000,000. Some other Mopars went for steep money too.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,683
    That sounds about right, @uplanderguy !
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675

    I saw this on the turntable at Summit Racing’s retail store near me this morning. 1970 Coronet R/T.

    While I prefer the ‘69 styling, this car in Plum Crazy just stopped me in my tracks.

    I remember those when new. I also remember that the color painted on the original cars by Chrysler had a bad reputation. Supposely adhesion wasn't so good and the paint could be stripped on some samples by do-it-yourself carwash wands held too close to the paint. I never saw one happen--I'm going on long term memories here...

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675

    Several classics out Sunday.
    1956 Plymouth Fury in white with the gold side spear. Classic carfeatured in ads...

    Elderly VW van in white roof with faded orange body. I could hear the 4 banger putting away. From the 60s?

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    Just saw this tonight. Typical manufacturer biased stuff, of course, LOL. I love that the narrators work for "Car News Inc.", LOL. '68 Chrysler Newport vs. Pontiac Executive.

    It's all what you're used to, of course, but I like the smoother lines of the Pontiac over the Newport.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ECwzFgkglI
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I think it's amusing they're bragging about the supposed increase in interior width on the Newport over the Executive. On my '67 Catalina, which is basically the same thing, I'd say increased interior width is the LAST thing it needs! Even in back, where the top mechanism cuts into the back seat at the corners a bit, it's still pretty roomy.

    I always thought of hiproom as being the measurement between the armrests. But since the armrests in that Newport are so thin, and don't extend back as far as the Executive's, I wonder if they're measuring hiproom either behind, or underneath, the armrests, so for the Newport that would essentially be the same number as shoulder room?

    But, most people are wider at the shoulders than they are at the waist, so I don't know if the Newport really as an advantage there or not. And if, for whatever reason you have to sit smack up against the door, I think you're going to be uncomfortable whether the car has those larger, boxed armrests of the Executive, or the more knife-edged armrests of the Newport. I'd be curious to see what the shoulder room numbers are for both cars. I'd imagine the difference is negligible.

    If I had to choose between the two, it would be a hard decision to make, as neither one is a car I really drool over. With these big Mopar C-bodies, I prefer the '65-66 models to the '67-68. But, if you want a big, conservatively styled car, I think the Newport does the trick. With Pontiac, I'm just not a fan of the '68's at all. It was basically taking the '67, and trying to make it look like a '68 Tempest/Lemans. It's sleeker and sportier looking than the Newport, but I still just don't find it attractive. Although most of my issue is with the front-end; from the side it looks nice. One other detail I don't like is the '68's taillights. The '67's seemed just about perfect, the way they kicked down a bit at the outer edges. But for '68, that kick-down part just seems too extreme, and I don't like how it cuts into the bumper.

    It would be interesting to see another comparison of these two cars, but with a GM-bias, rather than a Mopar bias. And then, I supposed, the truth about which one is "better" would be somewhere in the middle. Of course, "better" is more of a subjective thing, and depends on the individual.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    I like the styling of the 67 better than the 68 Pontiac. I especially like the 67 Grand Prix with the hidden headlights, wipers and stealth like tail lights. Walking to elementary school (who does that anymore?) there was a new 67 Grand Prix parked on the street. It was triple black and it looked sinister.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited August 2024
    Personally, I like the interior of that '68 Executive better than the Newport. They're trying to say the Newport's is more upscale, but I think the Executive looks nicer. Everything just looks like it's thicker and better-padded, to me.

    I actually walked to school in first grade, but the school was right around the corner. Nowadays, often the kids don't even walk to the end of their driveway to catch the bus! My neighbors drive the kids down the driveway to the street, and let them wait in the minivan until the bus comes! Okay, so it's maybe a 600 foot driveway, but still...

  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    edited August 2024
    A small thing, but on the '68 big Pontiacs, I like how the Executive lettering on the front fender is behind the wheel opening, and lower, instead of higher and in front of the wheel opening, like Catalina and Ventura.

    That Executive has the cloth and vinyl interior. From '66 to '70, I liked that interior--luxurious, but subtle. You couldn't get it in the coupe, only all-vinyl, grrrr, which was a completely different seat pattern and even the door panels were different. That cloth seating is identical to 1968 Ventura Custom option on the Catalina four-doors.

    I walked to all three of my schools. Sometimes I rode my bike to middle school. I never once rode a school bus.
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    Me neither. I pretty much grew up equidistant from all 3 schools just different directions.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    andre1969 said:


    If I had to choose between the two, it would be a hard decision to make, as neither one is a car I really drool over. With these big Mopar C-bodies, I prefer the '65-66 models to the '67-68. But, if you want a big, conservatively styled car, I think the Newport does the trick. With Pontiac, I'm just not a fan of the '68's at all. It was basically taking the '67, and trying to make it look like a '68 Tempest/Lemans. It's sleeker and sportier looking than the Newport, but I still just don't find it attractive. Although most of my issue is with the front-end; from the side it looks nice. One other detail I don't like is the '68's taillights. The '67's seemed just about perfect, the way they kicked down a bit at the outer edges. But for '68, that kick-down part just seems too extreme, and I don't like how it cuts into the bumper.

    I agree with all of your points, and that is coming from a GM guy. The '68 big Pontiacs were famously described by a GM exec in a review of the then-new '69 GP in an article in (I think) Car & Driver as a "big turkey" in terms of styling, especially the front end as compared to the '67, so it wasn't even well-regarded internally. The other thing I would add is that this was the era when federal safety standards were coming onto effect and some manufacturers didn't seem to know exactly what was needed to comply. In the '68 Pontiacs this led to taking the '67 instrument panel and overlaying a layer of padding on sections of it, which looked awful as you might imagine. This wasn't unique to GM either, as Chrysler did something much the same on the '68 intermediates.

    I also agree with your view on the big Chryslers. For me the '65/'66 versions were beautiful cars, especially the '65 New Yorker and the '66 300 with its unique front end. For '67 I think they took a step backwards with the fully concave body sides and some other less elegant exterior details, though I like the '68 300 front end with its hidden headlights. The slab-like dash in those years was also a step backwards from the handsome astra-dome throwback version that was in the '65/'66 models. While they didn't sell anywhere as well as the Pontiacs, the Chryslers did well in those years, selling nearly a million copies over the 4 model years. They even had to add a second assembly plant to manufacture them in order to meet demand.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,612
    I walked to school through 6th grade (3 doors away). Buses after that. Didn't have a car in high school, and neither did my two best friends... so, we were on the bus until the end.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,683
    edited August 2024
    Yeah, but I bet the bus helped a lot with the hills you had to climb in both directions!

    I lived within walking distance of my school through graduation, so I always just rode a bicycle to school... or walked on rare occasions. With my son, COVID put an end to his high school days before he was driving, so we never had to worry about it, and my daughter doesn't go to high school either, so it is a non-issue. BUT, they likely would have driven because the school bus that would pick them up has its nearest stop about a mile and a half from our house. As such, once the weather cools (which is about six weeks into the school year), my wife would drive him up to the bus stop. And, given the inconvenience of that, plus the additional people-time involved, he probably would have just driven all the way to school once the option was available to him.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,612
    I take that back. For 1.5 years of high school, we lived in Ohio, and I walked. About a mile. I must really be getting old to forget that.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    edited August 2024
    In grades 6-8, I went to private schools, because the public schools had gone downhill REAL fast in the early 80s. In 6th grade I went to a school that was maybe 1 1/2 miles away, but off of a busy road. We were living across the street from my grandparents by then, so Grandmom or Granddad would usually drive me to school and pick me up. It was a small school, and you had to pay extra if you wanted to ride the bus.

    One interesting memory I have of 6th grade is one Friday, my paternal Grandparents came to pick me up, because I was spending the weekend with them. They had their '81 Granada 2-door, that was a nice 2-tone mocha/creme type scheme. One of my friends and I were looking out the window, at the line of cars waiting to pick the kids up, and he asked which one was my grandparents, and I pointed to the Granada. And he was like "WOW, are your Grandparents RICH or something?! That's the nicest looking car out there!"

    I guess us 6th graders were easily fooled! Although I do remember that Granada getting a lot of compliments at the time. Nowadays the proportions bug me a bit. Things like the roof seeming too big for the rest of the car, and making it look top-heavy, and the wheelbase seeming a bit too short in relation to the overall length of the car: But, 6th-grade me wasn't quite that picky :p

    In 7th-8th grade, I went to a different school, for middle school. It was probably about 4-5 miles away. There was a bus, that you could pay extra for, but it didn't come out our way. So, some of the families formed a car pool. There were 5 families, total, and 8 kids, so it started off with one family driving one day of the week. But eventually, the others ended up paying Granddad to pick up their days. Sometimes, on days that Grandmom wasn't working, he would use her '82 Malibu Classic wagon, but usually he used his '76 GMC crew cab pickup. On nice days, he'd let us kids ride back in the bed, something I imagine would get Child Protective Services called on you nowadays!

    That middle school was kind of snooty. One thing I can remember is how, when we'd pull up, the other parents kind of looked down through their noses at us, because we were pulling up in a pickup truck. But the other kids were all jealous of us, because we got to ride in the bed!

    Thinking back, none of the cars any of the families had were really suited for hauling around one adult driver and 8 kids, except for one, who had an '83 LeSabre estate wagon with a Diesel 350 that she just loved. I can still remember her loving that she could get 30 mpg on the highway with it. But, one other family had a '76 Aspen wagon. Another had a '78 or so Volare wagon. One family had two Buicks: an early 80's Electra coupe and an early 80's Electra. And we alternated between the Malibu and the pickup. Thinking back, how we squeezed 8 kids into some of those vehicles, is beyond me!
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    I've told this story before, but when my '81 Monte Carlo was stolen, as a rental I got a six-cylinder Cougar coupe that was the identical style as your grandparents' car. My Monte was the small V8, but I detested that Cougar! Seam on the C-pillar right at eye-level, and one wheelcover was missing and I saw the wheels only had four lug nuts each--and on the LF, one of those four was missing! :)

    It was a creamy or pale-yellow color car.
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    edited August 2024
    I've always liked the Fairmont sedan's clean look:


    In the following years Ford managed to mess with the Fox platform looks, with the 'basket handle' two doors, upmarket looks, etc. Some were OK, many less than successful, IMO.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    I like those wheelcovers. A friend had a new '79 Zephyr Z-7 with those wheelcovers and whitewalls; the car was what I'd call a 'firethorn' metallic. It was a 302 4-speed and he said it took forever for it to come in.
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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I always thought that "basket handle" Futura would have made for a better Thunderbird, than what they ended up doing for 1980. I wonder if the Futura was the reason that when the '80 T-bird did come out, the roofline was more upright, formal, and blocky. If they had just stuck the '80 T-bird front clip on the body of the basket-handle coupes, it would've looked more like a downsized T-bird than what they ended up doing for '80. But since that roofline was already in use, they had to come up with something different.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    To texases' remarks, I think the first model year of a new style is generally the best-looking. Not always, but usually. After that, they'd change stuff just to make a minor change for the new model year. For instance, I like the '78 Malibu coupes and '77 Caprices the best of their generations. Later ones, meh.

    An exception to that is I think the GM midsize specialty coupes got a lot better looking for '81.
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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,861
    Thinking of all the full-size GM's from '67 to '68, to my eyes, only the Buicks and Cadillacs got better-looking with the '68 model year.
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