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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today! (Archived)

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,558
    Weren't we just discussing these?

    Saw one today... Like new condition!!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Today I saw an odd Chevy Spectrum ca. 1988 - it was whatever the sport model was, body cladding etc, and it was white of course.

    Also, I forgot to mention the day after I saw several Subaru Justys, I saw yet another one, a 4-door 4WD model. Can't be many of those around.
  • hotel1hotel1 Member Posts: 50
    Is NOT traded in the USA.
    What is traded on the NYSE is American Depository Recipts
    which equal 2 actual shares of toyota that are traded in
    japan.

    Don't be fooled !
    They also pay a miserable 15 CENTS (or so) per share
    semi annually !

    In the United States, Toyota Motor Corporation's stock is offered in the form of American Depositary Receipts (ADRs) on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). The ADRs are traded under the symbol TM on the NYSE and are based on Toyota shares traded in Japan. Each ADR represents two shares of Toyota common stock
    http://www.toyota.com/about/shareholder/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_ABOUT_SHAREHOLDER-
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Don't be fooled !
    They also pay a miserable 15 CENTS (or so) per share
    semi annually !


    Who cares about dividends. Historically stocks with dividends don't do as well as stocks without them.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Clean Karmann-Ghia, lime green, 'tough' looking guy driving it - odd choice

    1980 Civic w/20" wheels - they must weigh about as much as the rest of the car!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I have a few shares of that, and it pays more than 15 cents semi-annually. In 2006 it paid out $1.80 per share, and they took out 13 cents per share in foreign taxes.

    So far this year it's paid out $1.13 per share, back in July. Next dividend will show up around December 8. Still, the bulk of the money to be made is in appreciation, not dividends.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    Wow, nice crop this week Fin.

    -'53 Facel: Not!, it's a Ford Comete. I don't think anyone knowledgeable about these would call it a Facel just because Facel built the body. They were sold as Fords. Cool car though, I like French Fords.

    -Bugatti Replica: Very nice, the engine and wheels are very convincing.

    -Russian "Caddy": Very interesting, never heard of it before.

    -'55 Roadmaster: Shifty will drool! Surprisingly low bids IMO.

    -'29 Caddy Armored car: I love Armored Cars but $100K for a wreck like that is nuts.

    -'61 Mercedes Adenauer (Rasberry): What thing to do to a beautiful classic. :mad: :cry:

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I DO like the Roadmonster a lot but alas, it's a 4-door, so my dream is scattered like bits of broken glass at my feet...sigh....

    Bugatti reproduction---I think this is not a good investment. This is a "bitsa car" at best and a fake at worst. I suspect you will not be well-received at any credible Bugatti show or vintage race event....back row for you!

    Also the seller does not mention that yes, there are more claimed cars than real ones; however, whenever the owner of one Bugatti that got its VIN from the engine meets the other owner who got the same VIN from the chassis he bought, there is often a nasty lawsuit.

    And this type of car will probably lose that, giving up its legit Bugatti number for a DMV one, and that'll kill value forever.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Yesterday I saw a very well restored looking red 58 Impala convertible out driving in the rain (!), and a 59 El Camino, both driving on I90 at highway speeds.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    here's a bunch of pics I took at the Fall Carlisle swap meet in PA.

    Be warned...since I tend to go for unloved 80's battlecruisers, there's a disproportionate amount of them in there! :P

    One thing I noticed this time, is that there were more Corvettes for sale than I've ever seen before at a Carlisle event (other than the Corvettes at Carlisle, which I've never been to). I wonder if this is a sign that the economy really is starting to crash, and people are having to start unloading their toys? I dunno if you can use the Corvette as a barometer for the entire collector car industry, but I know they're a very popular car, a car that people tend to buy and keep I guess, until you pry it from their cold, dead fingers.

    Although I have a friend who bought a 1982 Corvette pace car a few years back, and he couldn't wait for them to pry it from his fingers!
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    On I-70 yesterday, east of Grand Junction, CO, heading east, I spotted a pristine 50's MB Ponton (220SE).

    Period Michigan plates, and was a color that was about two shades darker than pea green. Absolutely mint condition. Speed limit was 75 at the time - he was probably doing 65-70.

    On Friday, heading up US 6 in Utah, I saw a whole bunch of classic American iron heading south. I have to believe it was to a show of some sort.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    A period commercial for Shifty-mobiles

    I think this is excellent, so I thought I would share it. The user also has many other interesting old commercials.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's great. I'm going to post it in the subcompacts topic as a Big Brother Nightmare. "You WILL drive a small car, yes?"
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Oh, you know you want one of those coupes :P
  • ljay2ljay2 Member Posts: 9
    Today I saw, rolling, a '50s Mercury Montego, with the slanted, electrically operated rear window. Haven't seen that unique feature in a long time.
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    I posted this earlier on a different thread and it went unnoticed. Perhaps that says something about the car.
    1953 Jupiter
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    There we go...before the link didn't work, so I didn't say anything :P

    That's pretty cool. I don't know what it is worth, but I do actually know of Jowett via the Javelin, the apparently advanced sedan ca. 1948

    I see it is LHD, not many of those could have been exported.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Morgan Aero - would one of our friends across the pond please explain the styling of this thing? It seems like every choice they made was a bad one...

    AMC Concord - besides using the 'classic' word eighty times, they even compare it to a 'little Rolls Royce'...all this for one of the most boring cars of the time. The only claim to fame was the awd Eagle version, cramped but good in snow.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    Looking at the 58 Packard makes me wonder if it's more "50s" than the 58 Buick with all the glitz. Those fins and addon bulges are awful, at least they look that way now? I wonder how they were view in 1958?

    The 55 Roadmaster is great!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    -'39 Hanomag-very interesting car I think, didn't Hanomag and Borgward have a connection of some kind? It looks like a large VW Beetle.

    -'82 AMC Concord- "People say it looks like a little Rolls-Royce". They must've parked in front of the Home For
    The Blind.

    -'55 Buick Roadmaster convertible- Shifty's not gonna be the only one drooling over that one! One of the best looking 50's cars IMO.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I have to believe the tacked on junk on the Packard looked sad even then - people were not blind to desperation. What an inglorious death.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I believe Hanomag ended up buying Borgward facilities after the strange forced insolvency of the latter in the early 60s (and then Borgward resumed production, in Mexico until around 1970).
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    This morning I saw a white Countach parallel parked on main street.

    Looked like a later edition but was not 25th anniversary model.
  • alltorquealltorque Member Posts: 535
    Nope, wouldn't even begin to try and explain the Aero 8 front styling. Starting from the back you can see all the usual Morgan styling cues, (I'm using the word styling generously here. I think they look at Porsche 911's and think - same old same old works for them, why not for us ?). O.K. it's a classic English spoprts car thing. but then you get to those headlights. OMG. I believe these things are dangerous and should be banned. When you see one of these Aero 8's approaching you just have to stare; you cannot humanly do anything else, it's just so cross-eyed. This is fne if you're a pedestrian or a passenger but if you're driving at the time you still have to stare and risk death by piling into the back of the other crashed cars in front. ;)

    Good news is that they have now changed the headlights for something less visually challenging, or should that be visually challenged ? :confuse:

    Mention of the Jowett Jupiter and Javelin brought back some happy memories. As for the corrugated Citroen; theres a van version not far from where I live. Quite sought after, apparently.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    When you see one of these Aero 8's approaching you just have to stare; you cannot humanly do anything else, it's just so cross-eyed.
    Yep, takes 'goggle-eyed' to a new level. At least the rear end is just confused, including the pseudo-Bangle-butt:
    image
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    A few oddities over the weekend... Ferrari 575, Porsche 356, Volvo P1800, a very nice turquoise and white Citroen DS, and something really odd, a big highline looking ca. 1938 Caddy coupe.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Saw one this morning in central London, just driving along in the traffic. Looked good,not over restored, and of course LHD which is one reason they weren't common here.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I have to believe the tacked on junk on the Packard looked sad even then - people were not blind to desperation. What an inglorious death.

    I think the only thing really attractive on that '58 Packard is the roofline, which looks like it was cribbed from an upper-level '57 DeSoto/Chrysler. The rest of it is just a mess, though. If anything, it looks like they tried to take a 1957 Studebaker and try their best, on maybe a 50 dollar budget, to turn it into a '58 DeSoto. The side trim looks like what DeSoto used, and the fins even have sort of a DeSoto/Chrysler look about them. The taillights look kinda Chrysler-ish. And the low, horizontal bumper/grille looks similar to the affair that was on the '57 and '58 DeSotos, or the '58 Chrysler.

    Actually, it wouldn't take much to clean that car up. If they could have made the front fenders wide enough to accept quad headlights, and integrated the fins better, it would have made a world of difference.
  • mazda6iguymazda6iguy Member Posts: 365
    Last weekend in Shreve, OH the Shreve fire department had an open house. They had a Dodge A100 van, looked to be in perfect condition (except for a small rust spot i saw on the drivers side). Not sure of the year if I were to guess it looked to be a 1967.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,341
    guy I work with brought in his 1971 P1800E today. I never saw it in person before. Actually in very nice shape. Not a show car, but a modestly restored (been painted and engine rebuilt) driver that looks nice from 10 feet.

    He has plans to paint it over the winter, since the paint job was a DIY that is getting some issues.

    He also has a P1800ES wagon that I would like to see.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    FWIW-The correct designation for those cars is "1800E" and "1800ES"with no P, the original coupe (1961-1962) was the Volvo P1800 but the P was dropped in 1963 w the introduction of the 1800S.

    The interesting thing is that although variants of this car were made for a decade with no P in their name it's the P that sticks in people's minds even tho "P1800" was only used for thefirst 2 years.

    Wikipedia on the Volvo 1800s./a>

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    For some reason I missed that Diplomat wagon with the 440 earlier, and just saw it today. That must have been quite a squeeze, getting the 440 in an M-body! Even though the Aspen/Volare/Diplomat/LeBaron were bigger cars than a Dart/Valiant, the engine bay was actually smaller. They actually had to put a slight recess in the firewall on these cars to accommodate the distributor on the 318/360 smallblock V-8's. The big-block has the distributor up front, at an angle, so I guess that eliminates that problem.

    Still, I imagine that car must be a bear to work on.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,558
    Interesting... I always thought the P1800 was the coupe, and the 1800ES was the touring model (wagon).

    Michael Olin's character on thirtysomething drove a Volvo coupe.. (I wanted to write P1800, but now I know that's probably wrong..lol).

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    So I'm driving down a country road watching Autumn in New England put on it's coat of many colors and I come around a corner and spot two restored Pony cars parked nose to nose in front of a small, plain farmhouse close to the road. One was a '67 or '68 Camaro ( I forgot to look for the marker lights) and the other was a '69 Boss Mustang fastback. Both wore dazzling new paint jobs of similar champagne metallic hues along with sparkling chrome glinting and perfect bodywork glinting in the autumn sunlight.

    It was quite a sight and made me think I hadn't quite gotten over pony cars after all these years. ;)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,341
    the 1800 is the coupe. The E was added in '71 for the FI system. the ES was the sportwagen (always FI on that model).

    I need to talk to the owner. His plates even have a P on them! He is also president I think of the Volvo owners club, so he should know.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,341
    2 Z cars.

    At work, a woman is driving a brown 280z Turbo. Not sure of the year. Think that is still just a Z, right?

    And on the road, a while 200Zx. The model with the old body style but hidden headlights, and the V6 engine. So I guess early 80s. It was even the weird 2+2 style.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,558
    The turbo has to be a ZX.. No turbo models of the original 240/260/280Z..

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  • jescuejescue Member Posts: 521
    That Olds 98 is really cool- I had no idea they had a Tiffany clock.
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes Member Posts: 1,019
    No radio, though. Must have a radio delete? That's gotta be kind of rare.
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  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    A Fiat Palio outside of McAllen, TX.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Today I saw a very early 380SEC - that model alone makes it early, and it was dark brown! Very 1982. Not the best choice.

    I also saw a Lamborghini Jalpa, and a mid 60s BMW sedan on a flatbed towtruck.

    Oh, and a ca. 1970 Caddy convertible, on what must have been like 24" wheels! It was awful.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,558
    Isuzu Vehicross

    Infiniti M30 convertible

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  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    Not classic, but.. definately uncommon.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Here's another - 1990ish Buick Riviera, the one that, after being shrunk, had about a foot added onto the trunk to make it look bigger...and for some reason the owner parks it on the roof of the parking garage, not a good idea in Dallas...
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    Hail, yes?
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    Hail, yes? That and sun to bake its already fading half-padded vinyl top :sick:
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    I associate that dark non-metallic brown more w 1972 than '82.
    It was quite common on Benzes of that era. I would love to have a 280SL so equipped w tan inside.

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