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I spotted an (insert obscure car name here) classic car today! (Archived)
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The 57-60 models make me think of the bleak late 70s teen angst-themed drama "Foxes", where a young Jodie Foster drives one.
I guess it could be worse. I can remember, about 15 years ago, when my uncle hit a deer with his Corolla and it had to go back to the dealer for their body shop to handle it, they lost the whole car! Turned out, it got sent out to another dealer to do the work, but there was some lack of communication, and they couldn't find the car for a day or so.
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Even the current Charger/300 use something close...5-on-115, which comes out to about 4.52". Might not be close enough to try it though. I remember back in my pizza delivery days, one of the drivers had a mid-90's Civic that he put Fox-body Mustang rims on. Apparently, they were just close enough that he got the rims on, but it wasn't long before he lost a wheel while driving...
I wonder how many makers have long-lived bolt patterns. I know wheels from 1980s MBs will fit on the fintail.
On the subject of bolt patterns, I wonder if there's really any advantage to having several different ones? For instance, for the longest time GM would use a 5-on-4.75 for their RWD compacts, midsized cars, and most full-sized Chevies. And a 5-on-5 for full-sized BOP/Cadillacs, as well as pickup trucks. When they downsized the big cars in 1977, I believe all B-body coupes and sedans used the 4.75, but wagons, and the C-body, used the 5".
I think Chrysler used the 4.5" for just about everything for ages, although in some years Imperial limos used a 5.5", and I think the '57-66 Imperials might have used a 5.5" as well. The two Dodge Darts I had used a 4" bolt pattern, but I think the disc-brake models in the 70's started using the 4.5" as well.
I could understand having a wider bolt pattern for a bigger, heavier car. But, in GM's case, does 1/4" really make that much difference?
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Pontiac G3.
Maybe a Chevy Aveo clone?
Looked brand new.
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This one does the standing mile @ 162 mph.
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It is an excellent way to while away the hours. Here is one I like of an area that shortly after this photo was taken in 1967 was razed for urban renewal. The area is now covered by a large megaproject built around 1970 that is mostly offices and apartments - it had a much larger retail component originally but a lot of that has gone away in the last 10-15 years.
These 3 are almost a panorama of the local Ford dealer in their original location in a downtown gas station. A year or two after these were taken they relocated to a suburban location with a new steel building showroom and service dept on a large lot. About 4 years ago they relocated again to an even larger facility. But in 1967 this was where you bought your Ford:
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Is that a Packard just in the left edge of the frame in pic #2?
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I love old pictures like this.
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I notice several British cars, not surprising for far eastern Canada, I suppose.
Looking at the array of 1960s photos of the downtown makes me regret the strategy the gov here took. Downtown buildings were pretty much worn out at the end of WWII because the population here doubled in those years and the structures paid a price. But I look at some of the old stone and other buildings with lots of architectural detail and wish the city hadn't taken a scorched-earth strategy with the downtown. Some selective redevelopment combined with restoration/reuse would have made our downtown far more interesting today.
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I think that redevelopment happened in many places then, it was a fad here too. To be fair, the old buildings were often neglected, and would have need an entire gutting, with who knows what kind of structural work - maybe cheaper to replace than renovate. At the same time, there was a modern movement, and old styles didn't have appeal. MAny residential houses were also either razed or stripped of their character. Unfortunately, a lot of the modern replacement buildings of the era, especially into the 70s, haven't exactly aged well themselves.
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I can't find exact production figures, but by this time I'd imagine less than 1000 of them were produced?
Oh, and here's a teaser of something else...
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I thought the Polara/Monaco was pretty good looking, and especially like the '69. Dodge did a good job, I think, of making them look less chunky than the Plymouth and Chrysler counterparts. I think the wide-open rear wheel wells helped a lot.
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I had asked the mechanic if they'd had it running recently and that's why it started so easily and he said no, it hadn't been started in about two days.
and 2 different times, once with the top up then down, a guy bopping around in an old school VW powered dune buggy. man that thing was short and low!
and for sale on the side of the road, an original (as in ratty) early 70s F100 PU. I kinda liked it!
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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