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Had to take the last one on the lot though.
Few people told me don't buy from Martin and I never asked why.
Then I heard today they get cars that were damaged in transit. The damage has to be less than 1k and then they fix the car. If this is the case they can then sell the car as brand new. With so many "damaged cars" they get better discounts than other honda dealerships, and are often able to offer prices that other Honda dealerships can not match.
They also don't have to disclose the damage, even when asked.
Has anyone heard this?
Thanks!
Also... Try this... Take your Chevy to at least 2-3 dealerships and ask for the Used Car Manager. Make sure you are taking it to GM dealers as they will have the best chance of selling it and should have lower reconditioning costs since it is their brand. Get buy bids from them of what they would purchase it for. Depending on the state you are in you can still trade it at the dealer and they can wholesale your trade for the value you received. You can also "Shop" your trade-in with smaller "tote-the-note" lots who buy from larger dealerships for their inventory. If you can find the right buyer then you are all set. If all of the numbers come back around what the original dealers are offering then they are giving the appropriate "fair market value" for your vehicle. Some vehicles just won't bring the money depending on market conditions.
YOU WANT A CHEVY GUY TO LOOK AT IT!!!!!
The Anonymous Dealer
The Anonymous Dealer
Or you could buy All Season Floor mats from Honda!
That being said Trailblazers are not the best merchandise for an import store. A chevy store can give you a "buy bid" and they can wholesale the trailblazer to them.
Think about it this way. Guy comes in for a brand new Pilot... gets sticker shock or has less than stellar credit. Which car is he gonna buy? 2002 Trailblazer or 2002 Pilot? Same with Chevy store... at the chevy store he is gonna go for the slightly used brand he was after!
The Anonymous Dealer
All things considered your Trailblazer sells at auction for about 8,900.00 - 9,200.00 Also keep in mind that once we trade in these vehicles we usually spend 500-1500 in our service departments!!!! The older they get and the more miles they have on them... sheesh!
I checked with Sussman Honda and dealer assures me that Honda 3yr- 36,000 mile (bumper to Bumper)and 60,000 power train warranty is honored in US, CANADA and MEXICO and is transferable should I sell it later on.
Anyway I will be picking up my ride on the 26th of July in Philadelphia. So then I'll know if all is as they promised. If not, I'm back on the plane home, sadder but wiser. However i'm optimistic.
As for the temporary tag, that is available from Sussman ($20). However I do have a business in Oregon so may just transfer the plates and insurance to Pilot for trip home to B.C. I'll be checking with State Farm in OR. on monday.
As I will be transporting Pilot out of US I do not have to pay any state/federal taxes until I get the double whammy in Canada. Also Oregon has no state tax so that is an option I am examining for the short term.
Now if you are a Canadian, thinking of buying a US vehicle and importing it to Canada, you must check out the Canadian Import site at www.riv.ca to see all the requirements you must fulfill to import. It is a lot simpler than it appears.
The biggest, most expensive thing is to ensure you get the Daytime headlights installed. (Sussman charged me $248 US for the Pilot vs $500+/- in Canada.) And check to ensure that the vehicle you purchase at least has a restraint latch in the vehicle. You can buy the infant restraint kit for the latch in Canada. Also you need your dealer to supply a "Recall Clearance Letter" on dealer letterhead with the Honda logo. Anyway before you do any real looking or dealing aquaint youself with the site. And you have 45 days after you enter Canada to meet all requirements anyway.
Hope this helps you out.
I'll start maybe Tuesday night with the whole trade apprasil.....this should be fun.
I've heard mixed statements on vehicles being imported into Canada. From the warranty being completely void to the warranty only being valid in the USA and now the vehicle having full warranty in North America.
Keep us informed on your progress!
Have a great trip and keep us informed of your story !
General Warranty Provisions
"The warranties in this book do not cover:"
. "Any vehicle while it is registered or normally driven outside the United States, Puerto Rico, or the U.S. Virgin Islands."
I purchased a 3rd party warranty from the dealer for $1295 (4yr/60,000 miles)
Be careful on that drive from Philly to the West Coast. Vary your revs and don't use cruise control, you will still be breaking in that new engine and a long trip like that isn't the best way to do it.
Average condition is only 10,384 trade in value.
I let 2 dealerships basically bid it out on my car. The one dealership told me they would just have the wholesaler pay a little more for my car and then give him a break on the other trades, so he told me to come in on a busy day when they have a lot of trades, then the wholesaler wouldnt mind.
According to them Martin receives a bigger discount bc they deal with a lot of cars damaged (<1k in damages)in transit, and they just make the repairs themselves. They also don't have to disclose what was damaged. Who knows if that is true.
Few reasons for buying it from Connicelli though, closer, didn't have to wait for the car, and felt more comfortable with them. At most Martin would have been $100-$500 cheaper. Martin told me proabably be $500 cheaper but couldn't guarantee it until I was in there and ready to do the deal.
Feel free to email me for more details.
Anyone else out there able to get the warranty validated in Canada. Perhaps dwilliam "The Anonymous Dealer" can respond? :surprise:
Anyone else out there able to get the warranty validated in Canada. Perhaps dwilliam "The Anonymous Dealer" can respond? :surprise:
VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FOR THE U.S. ARE INTENDED FOR SALE IN THE U.S. AND WARRANTIES FOLLOW.
Most manufacturer's offer vehicles worldwide and therefore have different rules depending upon region/country/continent.
don't fool yourself into thinking you have no issues because you are adjacent to the U.S.
That is all
The Anonymous Dealer
p.s. how are you looking for bargaining power? It's not their fault you want to export a vehicle.
You want another P.S. A dealers "verbal confirmation" does not entitle a customer to recompense because the dealer invalidates their resposibility to the the manufacturers warranty immediately upon purchase. Warranties are between manufacturer and customer and therefore defers directly to the owners manual.
It will save me money to buy locally, and the deposit is said to be refundable, thought I dont know how easy it will be to get refund, but I also wrestle with the ethical side of this. Maybe the Anonymous Dealer can respond.
How about if I say "!!I'll give you anything!!; that's my final offer!!"?
I know in NY, you have 3 business days to cancel the contract and get a full refund.
As far as deposits go. Any honest dealer would refund your deposit and wish you well in your purchase.
The Anonymous Dealer
p.s. what is the ethical side of it? Just curious
Actually my purchase is in Illinois, and the offer sheet I was faxed prior to my making deposit clearly stated the deposit was fully refundable. So from a legal point of view I feel safe.
However, I want that dealers deal with me honestly and ethically, and i would like to do the same. If I cancelled a deal on which I put down a deposit, albeit refundable, feel I had dealth with him unethically if I decide to buy where I got an equally good deal but in the city I live in?
What i meant was this:
would the dealer in this case feel I dealth with him unethically if i cancel the deal, or would he think thats part of the business, and simply feel good he had a car to sell to someone else?
Thanks for all the info. even if a little disappointing. It sure saved me the nasty surprise I would have had on arrival in Philly.
At the risk of repeating myself, WHAT A GREAT SITE!!! So informative, so helpful! Kudos to KarenS, car man and kyfdx and all of you out there helping to demystify the car buying process
msrp on window was $36,000... I always thought they would not budge on sticker much buying a honda... because resale and quality is so good... my final deal ended up being $29,700 with mud guards (almost $200) out the door with no extended warranties or anything was.... $32,400.....
compared to $36,000 plus ttl.... wow!!! love my new pilot.... thanks to all....
Once again... DO NOT FEEL BAD! It's your money, your car, and your time! It is part of business and if they try to MAKE you feel guilty it is their shortcoming and not yours!
The Anonymous Dealer
T.A.D. is correct.
In Texas, the 3-day (72 hour) rule only applies if the sale takes place at a location OTHER THAN the seller's normal business location. This is to protect you from people selling $1500 encyclopedias that show up at your door, or at the State Fair, using high-pressure sales tactics.
If you go to a dealer's lot it is presumed you are a willing partner in the deal. The instant you drive away in a vehicle titled to you, the car is yours like it or not. It is the act of titling (not driving off the lot) that makes a new car a used car. It's not the dealer's fault if you have buyer's remorse.
If you live close to the US border, you can always take the car to the US for major warranty work.
I did not research on whether if you purchase the car and give Honda a US address... and if you need any warranty work, for you to pre-pay in Canada and claim the expenses from Honda America.
There are many manufacturers who are willing to allow warranty transfers... go and find an alternate.
My issue was when I put an initial deposit, said to be 100% refundable, down on a car, I am not legally required to complete the sale.