2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

kyfdx

I think NJ tax is 6% on the actual lease payment.. Not positive, but that is what I see on these boards..

selm

Thank you for your help. I will let you know if I can find a dealer willing to deal.

amt7565

kyfdx-
Greetings.

Would you happen to know what interest rate one can expect for purchasing a new car for someone who has credit scores between 770 and 800?

Thanks.
AMT

dd123

Hi Guys,
Just looking into the price of brand new bmw 2005 325i the stripped down version
As I know 2006 is coming out within few months
just curious that if i can get a very good deal for 2005 bmw at the end of this year?
the invoice showing in edmunds.com is 27,862.
Can anyone give me an idea whats the best time to buy bmw and what can be the best price on it?

I can wait till end of year and getting is cheap is more important.

Also, i just want the stripped down version of 2005 BMW 3 Series
325i Rwd 4dr Sedan (2.5L 6cyl 5M)

Plz share your views for sale for 2005 3 series.

Thanks

DD

mabubba

I've been looking at a 2005 325i w/Sport, heated front seats and aluminum trim. I have the price down to Invoice-2500(marketing support)+750(dealer profit). I don't think it'll be available in december though, they seem to be going fast with the current incentives.

mabubba

wco81

BMW of Mountain View and Peter Pan BMW are both listing $289 plus tax invoices.

Here is one from the Peter Pan site:

Lease a 2005 BMW 325iA for $289 per month plus tax and lic.

More available at this price.

MSRP $31,270; Sale Price $ 27,500. On approval of above average credit. 36 month closed end lease plus tax and license. Based on 30,000 total miles. 20 cents per mile thereafter. $2,808 cap reduction. Total drive-off $4000 includes tax, lic.,doc fees and 1st payment. #W77801

ursamajor

I ordered a 330Ci (after receiving word of the March incentives) which was built by the 17th of this month and is now being shipped to L.A. If it arrives and can be leased to me by the end of April, am I not entitled to the February incentive program which used a .60 residual factor rather than the March program which retained the .0008 MF but decreased the residual by .01? The terms lock for 60 days after the expiration of a particular month. I would save about $ 12/month on a 36mo./36k lease. Do you agree, and do you think the dealer would disagree?
Thanks again for your input.

xogrady

Longtime reader, first time poster. But I think I can safely speek for everyone in saying "Thank you" to kyfdx for all the insight.

I have one question though; does the money factor usually vary by bank/finace co, dealer, or brand? Meaning how much variance would there be in MF from BMW to Audi to Infiniti? It is more or less a breakdown of the interest, correct?

coby03

ursamajor,

I also have a 330Ci on order, and it is due to arrive stateside on or about March 28. Should be a week or so from then until it arrives here in Cleveland. I was concerned initially about the lease terms expiring, but there is little chance it won't arrive before the end of April unless there's a shipwreck or other transportation calamity. My situation sounds a little different than yours, however. My order was placed and I got approved through BMW FS in February, therefore the terms of my lease were locked in as of the end of the February program for a sixty day period (i.e.; until end of April). If you placed the order in March and got approved via BMW FS then, you would lock in to the March lease rates for sixty days from the end of March (i.e.; until the end of May). Did you order in February or March? Do you have a production number yet so you can follow it on BMW Owner's Circle?

superysj19

Did I get a good deal? I've leased a 325i with sport package,automatic,xenon,and black metallic.
The MSRP was around $33600. I put $4000 drive off
and $389 per month with tax included.
(3years/30000miles) Do you think i could do $3000 drive off with same monthly payment?

ursamajor

I checked with the salesperson after reviewing my paperwork. The order was placed March 2nd, so the deal is governed by the March incentives. February is behind us. However, should the incentives improve for the month of delivery, like April 1, I would get the benefit of the improved terms. However, the salesperson was not optimistic that incentives would improve, based upon a number of factors. So, I'm OK with the deal I made. I haven't received a VIN # yet. Mine would be shipped by sea through the Panama Canal to Long Beach.

jeff193

is this truly possible ? http://autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=4195

How much would the same deal be in virginia ?

kyfdx

Read the fine print.. $3000 cash down on a 24 month lease.. With no downpayment, you'd add about $135/month, bringing you up to $400/mo.. I can't make out all the fine print, but by the time you finished, I'd guess about $450/mo including tax for a 325i with automatic transmission as the only option...

lr1294

-Why is it that on Edmunds' site, the TMV (or "what other's are paying")is higher than the invoice price for the 325xi, but lower for the 325i, 330i, and 330xi?? According to what I am reading in this forum, one can expect to pay between $700-1200 over invoice for any of these 3 series sedans. This contradicts Edmunds' "TMV" price for the 325i, 330i, and 330xi, which again are less than invoice.

-In addition, the March cash to dealer rebate (which is not incorporated into either the invoice or the TMV price) is lowest on the 325xi ($1500 vs. $2500, $4200, and $4000 respectively).
-According to the above (including rebates and based on inclusion of the premium package, automatic transmission and heated seats only for all models), this would mean I could purchase a 330xi ($34,337)for only $1779 more than a 325xi ($32,558) after rebates, despite an MRSP price of $6300 more for the 330xi than the 325xi (and invoice price of $5730 more). It also means I could buy a 330i ($32,298) for less than a 325xi ($32,558) after rebates!

-Is the above really true (making the 325xi a terrible deal comparatively speaking), or is it true that no matter which model you buy, expect to pay $700-$1200 above invoice (not counting rebates) and that Edmunds "TMV" price is not correct in relation to the invoice?

Thanks in advance, as this issue has been puzzling me.

kzoo1

First, thanks to all who post here, it has been very helpful in making my purchase.

Here is the deal:
new 05 330xi
premium
cold wthr
xenons
steptronic
metallic paint- silver

MSRP 43,795
Invoice 40,140

Paid 38,595 + ttl (MSRP -4000 incentive -1200 discount)

Was hoping for $1500 discount, but got $600 more for my trade than I anticipated, so I'm happy with the overall deal. No hard sell. They did not try to hide the "incentive".
As for the car, I love it so far. I'm 6'2" and fit without any problems. Did not compare to 330i, so I can't comment on that comparison. I have to live with Michigan winters, and my wife will drive the car also, so I needed AWD.

I was very close to buying a 05 Infiniti G35x, but there is no local dealer, and that combined with the $4000 incentive got me into the BMW.

BTW, BMWFS was offering a rate of 4.9% over 60months, which I skipped.

Hope the helps. Thanks again.

Kzoo1

Kirstie_H

TMV represents the average price that people in your area are actually paying for these vehicles. The whole point of listing TMV is to let you know which vehicles people are able to "deal" on.

When you read prices paid in this discussion, remember that you're reading about prices paid all over the country. The price someone pays in California for a certain vehicle may be vastly different than the price another person pays in New Jersey. When you look at TMV, you're looking at prices paid specifically in one area.

Just because the 325xi price may be higher in your area doesn't make it a terrible deal. It may also have better resale value, OR, more importantly, it may be the vehicle that makes you happier than the other three. You'll hear it all over the Forums - First and foremost, buy and drive what you like.

kirstie_h
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kyfdx

You have to wonder over what period of time that data is collected... For instance, if it includes the last 90 days, it could be way off what you could get this month..

The incentives on the 325xi just started 3 weeks ago...

And, TMV should be incorporating the dealer cash, as that isn't a consumer rebate..

regards,
kyfdx

Kirstie_H

Oh, definitely. It's not updated in "real time," so it's meant to be used as a guide rather than gospel. And, since it represents an average, this means that some informed (and/or lucky) consumers are doing better than that.

kirstie_h
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kenyon

I bought a 05 330xi listing at 43,795 and containing premium package, cold package, xenons, BMW assist, steptronic and metallic paint for $36,950. I bought the extended maintenance from 50,000-100,000 miles for $650 which I understand to be about a $335 discount. Floor mats thrown in. Traded a TSX 04 with 29,000 miles for $20,100 (middle of three dealers offers for the TSX). Dealer was Faulkner BMW in Lancaster. The entire negotiation took 40 minutes. I also shopped Sun Motor in Mechanicsburg; their price was several hundred more, trade in offer $100 less and they quoted the extended maintenance as listing at $1395 which is don't think is accurate. I think is is $985. The Sun Motor price was still quite competitive from what I have seen on these boards but I felt far more comfortable with Faulkner.

bmwfrevr

Ok guys come on it is almost noon anybody with E90 prices yet!!

amt7565

The wait has been painful....someone ..please write the price...I am all drooling....

kyfdx

Check the 2006 BMW 3-series thread.. prices are there..

xogrady

Could someone please confirm the acq fee for leases in New York? One dealer is telling me $1000. Tks.

rr1234

Thanks everyone for your posts- they have been helpful in getting me some idea of what I should be paying.

I am about to lease a 2005 BMW330cic for 36 months with the following specs:
Jet Black (non-metallic)
Automatic Transmission
Heated Seats
Xenon Headlights
Sport Package

The MSRP on this vehicle is $48,675
The dealer is charging me $46,875

He is asking for $2,298 down (this is supposed to be $0 down but that includes first payment, bank fee and registration fees as far as I know) and the monthly payment would be $607 (including NY state tax). This sounds like a real good deal to me but I'm not sure- the dealer I bought my current vehicle from quoted me at $693 which seems outrageous by comparison. Does anyone have any thoughts?

thanks!

rr1234

xogrady,
I've been told my multiple sources that $900 is standard for NY-based leases.

kyfdx

Correct.. $900 acq.fee for NY.

kyfdx

You don't say how many miles/year your lease is for...

The $2298 looks correct..
$607 1st payment
$650 security deposit
$900 acquisition fee

Which leaves a little left over for registration fees.

If it is a 12K/yr lease, that would be a payment of about $567 + tax..

Without the breakdown of the upfront money, and knowing exactly what term/mileage you have, it is hard to give you an exact number, but your lease deal looks pretty good... I'd wrap it up before April 1st... I can't tell the future, but last year the convertible lease deals got worse in April..

regards,
kyfdx

cpeterson3

Hello all.

Doing a little research for my neighbor (just ordered 545ia on Sat. for myself through Euro. Delv.) and I've got the MF's and residuals for March 3 Series but I'm seeing reference on other postings of "incentives." Is there actual manufacturer money back on any models?

I've checked the incentive section of New Cars and I'm not seing it but sometimes, its not the most up to date.

Any info?? thanks

virtualbmw

a comparably equipped 2006 325 is $150 more MSRP. Same for a 330 is $100 less.

Certainly, the incentive is in place on the '05's making them a great value but BMW keeps the segment dominator the same price.....let the domination continue.

daffodil

Kyfdx -- thanks for your previous feedback. I am moving along and have been contacting dealers (and will bring a friend if they are able to locate a 330xi in the specific color(s) I want). I'll probably post in the forum to check and see if the price is reasonable, though!

Kenyon -- Is there a person in particular who you dealt with at Faulkner BMW in Lancaster and recommend? I'm about 2 hours away from Lancaster and would certainly be willing to drive there if I could get a good deal.

Thanks!

daffodil

I just noticed that we can't post names of salespeople. Sorry about that request!

pelter

Simple Question:
Given current incentives and market knowledge of 3 series lease deals expiring in March, what do you think is the best "value" out there for a 3 yr/12K mi lease with no cap reduction? In other words, what is the best car for the money and what should I pay for it?

Many thanks for your input.

kyfdx

They aren't consumer rebates, they are BMW to dealer incentives..

$2500 on 325i
$1500 on 325xi
$4200 on 330i
$4000 on 330xi

kyfdx

Do you mean BMWs? Or the whole market?

The lease deals on 3-series sedans aren't that compelling, compared to financing, as the incentives are all on the selling price..

For BMWs in general, the best lease deals are on the 5-series and the X3 3.0... and the 3-series coupes and convertibles...

The outgoing 2005 A4 had some good deals last month, but not sure if they are still running them.. (Not the new 2005.5 model).

Saab, as usual, has a ton of leasing incentives on the 9-3 and the 9-2X...

Haven't seen anything compelling in the entry-luxury market other than that...

regards,
kyfdx

pelter

Thanks for the info ... Yes, I was referring just to BMWs, and primarily 3 series leases. Just trying to figure out if there are any "double dipping" incentive opportunities out there like a 330XI with $4K incentive plus special lease factors.

Thanks again.

kyfdx

'05 330xi

36 mo/15k mi – 53% Residual Value – Money Factor .00210 Base Rate

Add 2% to residual for 12K/yr.

Post the MSRP of the unit you are interested in, and the mileage allowance, and I can give you a ballpark price....

xogrady

Dealer in Norther NJ is offering following

330i - 36month/15K-year
metallic paint
premium pkg
automatic
heated seats

up front: $2233; first, security, bank and DMV fees
taxes(8.75%) rolled into payment
$515 month

Decent deal? would love to hear comments

xogrady

kyfdx

MSRP?

xogrady

MSRP 40850

kyfdx

Great deal.. About $7K off MSRP at that price, if using the base lease rates.. Maybe $1000 over dealer cost..

If it turns out to be exactly this deal... 3yr/45K lease with that amount upfront and all taxes and registration included... then you better grab it before the end of the month...

regards,
kyfdx

xogrady

on my way to the dealer now to see everything in person. will let you know!

thanks for your help!

lovebmw330i

Grady for comparison purposes this is what a dealer in South Florida gave me:
2005 330i MSRP $39,000
automatic
sports package
alarm system
36months/12k per year
1 prepay of $17,250 everything included!
works out to $480/month tax included
Mike

pelter

Here you go ...
MSRP on 05 330xi of $43,695 and 12K per year with 0 cap reduction.

Thanks.

kyfdx

'05 330xi

$43,695 MSRP
$37,070 Selling price (nice round number)
$37,695 CAP cost (selling price + $625 acq.fee)
3yr/36K lease
55% Residual
.0021 Money factor

Payment = $510/mo + tax

Due at signing = 1st pymt, security deposit, Title/license.. Approx $1300-$1400 total.

This represents about $1000-$1200 over dealer cost, considering the $4000 BMW-to-dealer incentive on this model.

regards,
kyfdx

johnliv1

KYfdx. this is my calc(based on amt7565 method) . I am getting a different payment than you not including taxes.

MSRP = 40,545
negotiated 38,200
residual @59% = 40,545 x .59 = 23,291.55
monthly dep = (38,200 - 23,291.55)/36 = 414.12
monthly finance=(38,200 +23,291.55)*.0008 =49.19
414.12+49.19=463.31 before taxes

is my calc correct? if not what am i doing wrong?

THanks

kyfdx

You transposed numbers on your residual..

Residual is $23,921.55

johnliv1

oops. that's better.

Thanks!

xogrady

Slight change of my preference. Didn't really like the steel blue metallic with gray leather. Instead made a deal for orient blue metallic w/sand leather interior. Packages were slightly different. But the did agree to cut me a check for $700 to pay off last 2 months of my current I35.

300i
Orient Blue Metallic
Premium Pkg
Cold Weather Pkg
Automatic
Xenon lights
MSRP - $41350

Due at signing $2203 (first, security, fees)
Taxes (8.75%) rolled into payment
$547.50/month.

I pick it up Monday. Not quite as good as the previous, but i like the color combo much better. Oh well...

Again, special thanks to this board and especially KYFDX for the assistance.

xogrady

My bad...MSRP 42045.

amt7565

Can you please name the dealer in NJ?
Thanks.