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Sandy
They may have a near nothing residual on them or something.
A glorified CRV that people don't see the value in maybe?
A lot of the noise comes from the tires Honda insists on installing on their cars. They last forever but they are loud.
I just replaced the original tires on our 2003 with Michelin X's and it made a big difference! I could have probably gone another 15,000 miles but I changed them anyway and I'm glad I did!
If you don't really need the car now, it may not be such a bad idea to wait for the 2009 models, as very likely Honda will rollover the newer more powerful 2.4L engine that debut in the new Accord to the CR-V, as the number one complaint against CR-V is no doubt the lack of power compared to other similar SUVs.
How long have you been waiting from the moment they started looking for the car? Did they ask for the deposit?
The guy I am working with (probably same one you worked if you used Internet to contact them) seems to be OK, but he has never called me to provide with any additional information. I had to call him myself to figure out first they cannot find dark blue one, so I could change it to black. Then I called him again, and he asked me what interior color is OK. I mean I am not sure whether they got it seriously, considering EX-L w/Navi in any color will be probably sold right from the truck.
He can manipulate peoples thoughts just as they do inside the finance managers office. I urge everyone to be vigilant when buying their cars and do the math.
It's amazing, a problem is being brought up, but he quickly discounts it as not an existing problem. This is not a personal attack on Isellhondas. I would prefer these forums. be left open to the consumer. We learn from each other.
Uh or I could be entirely wrong. I have seen people get ripped off so many times at dealership. That stupid no cooling off period truly works for dealships benefit. I agree it has to be in place, but I wish there was a better way.
Thanks, Wanda
The problem with this rule is uninformed consumers. Understandably, we do not purchase new cars, used cars often and are unaware of the proper way of purchasing a car with out being subject to paying a higher price, higher percentage rate.They will take advantage of you. I saw a previous post where a customer has 700 Fico and is paying 8.95 percent. You know why? He'll most likely qualify for a 6% loan and the dealer will get approx 3% of the share or close to it. Most people believe, they only need to shop for the price of the car. It isn't so. You need to shop for Vehicle price, Annual Percentage rate, Extended Warranty, alarm and be educated on non-sense options such as Paint Protection, Rust Proofing, Interior protection and you should even get FREE floormats. Toyota charges $300 for it. Also shop for GAP insurance! I realize it's about $600, but if you end up financing it, you loose. Call your insurance company and find out if they offer this! Esurance.com i pay $21/6 mos. Extended Warrantly, please tell me my last purchases everyone has offered it to me for $1500 5 years 100,000, and when I flatly refuse I get to pay only $800 w/ no deductible. Some customers pay $850 for 3 years, 36,000!!! That's ridiculous. Have you notice car dealerships have super size lots, they have a lot of overhead. Therefore we have to pay for it.
When I buy a car, I have always bring my PdA and plug in the numbers before I sign the x. I know everything that I can possibly learn thru these forums before I step in there.
Sorry for the rambling.
The 3 day right of recission rule on contracts vary from state to state.. It started mostly with in-home sales... a long time ago.. I've never heard of it ever applying to vehicles.
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kyfdx
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I can?
I must have powers I didn't know about!
"I urge everyone to be vigilant"
I agree.
As far as my motives, I have NEVER used these forums to promote business and the long time posters know this.
I tell it like I see it.
I would even go on to say that as far as options are concerned, shop on the web for secondary providers for things like mats and mirrors and get an idea of real world, actual prices. Make a list of all the accessories that you'd like in your vehicle and then google "Honda parts" and comparison shop. Make a price list of the items you want so you will know what actual retail value is when you walk into the dealer.
Some sites like hondaautomotiveparts.com even have PDF files of the installation proceedures so you can see for yourself if the dealership 'has' to install it, or like the all season floor mats you can just hook them in yourself. Contact this merchant and find out what shipping costs/ Tax will be for the item that you want. Then, when you walk into the dealership, offer to allow the dealer sell the accesories to you at the web price, minus the shipping (but you will have to pay the taxes on the item)
Bank financing rates for car loans are available on the bank web sites. When you see an attractive rate call the manager and try to negotiate a rate reduction. If you have great credit and will switch your accounts to them, they may just bite on that to get you as a customer.
Of course, "how he sees it" might be different from "how you see it." Everyone has a certain perspective and style; you just have to be able to filter through them and extract what's useful to you. That's the challenge - and the point - of an open forum like this, no?
Regarding financing, I've found capitalone auto finance w/ very consistent excellent next day service. Check on hand, next day. Rate, market going rate.
I wish everyone has access to a computer or pda inside the finance managers office. Everything I've worked so hard for was almost lost in the drain, so to speak. You have to fight the finance manager, line by line. Don't feel ashamed if you're lost during negotiations, take your time to understand that screen and bottom line.
Good luck!
P.S. I love my honda dealer btw.
I like em, of course the first time they tried to dump a 150 miles on the odometer vehicle on me for 27,500. He was busy so a salesman from the lot came and started asking me stupid questions.
Statements such as..
Your payments w/ zero down is $650.00.
What monthly payment can you afford.
We can't give away cars for no profit.
I heard about how that dealership is.
You need to put $5k down. I know you have excellent credit but...
YOu don't want that color, it fades. Not available vehicle.
I walked out and he tried to block my vehicle from leading the lot. I told my wife, close your eyes, I'm running him down.. HAHAHAHAHHAHHA.
I told him, at the count of 3 I'm stepping on the gas.
With comedy aside, I do respect people.
I'm from there too and I can tell you, that is one horrible marketplace.
There are some good stores there and people in that are should ask their family and friends for a referrral.
Grew up (?) in San Pedro and still love that town.
To these people, however, it isn't "chump change". I have literally seen people drive 200 miles to save 100.00. I'll never understand this but that's me.
It's not the money. It really isn't. It's the nagging fear that someone esle, somewhere, just might have paid a bit less.
Life is short....
isell,
Could you recommend specific "good stores" in the Southern California area? I'm in the San Fernando Valley.
Thanks.
I don't know if I should be posting this stuff here but if youi email me, I'll give you a couple of ideas. It's in my profile.
Dorothy
Do not imply, only in California.
Ugh, now to buy my crv. I was hoping to get prices paid in these forums, but none today...
People can make their own decisions. When it comes to car dealerships, i take it personally. If he does help people here, then I apologize. Truly I do.
But what you may think is helping in your point of view, may be totally the opposite if you are not informed.
I do apologize for ruffling feathers, I'll leave now.
I guess what I'm asking for is any advice or suggestions. I live in Oregon (just moved here), and I found a 2001 (112k miles) for $8900 - the dealer is telling me that he's priced it just over wholesale price but would rather sell to a customer - anyone know why this might be? Also, do you think I could find a better price than this if I use a broker or just take my time? On the one hand, I don't want to miss out on this car if it's a great deal; on the other, I don't wanna overspend.
THANK YOU so much for any help. I really appreciate any insight/advice anyone could provide me.
Base Price: $25, 756 (incl destination)
Less: $9500 trade-in
Taxable Amount: $16,256
Tax: $975 (for comparative purposes, w/o a trade in tax= $1545)
Doc Fee & Tag Transfer: $125
Total OTD: $17, 356 ($27, 426 w/o the trade)
MAtch a sleazy dealer anywhere with a customer like yourself and nothing good is likely to happen.
You might just try being friendly and maybe they will respond in kind.
Good luck!
Seems like a great lease deal. Can anyone comment on that?
Thank you -
I own a CRV-LX 07 and that is good enough for me. Acura is trying to convince people that the RDX is not a CRV, what are they thinking, no wonder people are not buying them. :mad:
By the way, I just came back from the Honda Dealer to buy my CRV E-XL AWD 2008. I had a blast w/ my sales person / internet guy. He told me to floor the darn thing on a dip on the road. I was terrified as I assumed the CRV would get airborne. Suprisingly, it handled it w/ very well!!!
Assuming that this is an EX AWD (they're the most common, you didn't specify), wholesale is actually 7450. However, the 8900 is significantly below retail.
Several thoughts -
You may want to check the myriad of different automotive price guides to get a really good idea of what this vehicle is worth. CR-V's are great cars, but no car is worth paying too much for. Edmunds.com, Kbb.com, and NADA.com are all good websites to check out for vehicle pricing.
The 2002 CR-V's were significantly improved. Though I am sympathetic to the financial woes of a graduate student (just finished my masters myself), I would strongly urge you to look at a 2002 to see if the upgrade is worth the extra cash. In Oregon, with the amount of snow you see, I would also encourage you to look for an EX as those come with ABS. That's the one option I have to have, which is why until recently I've had to look at least at EX versions of all Hondas.
Just my $.02
Just throw a curveball: Only the Japan built Gen 2 CR-V's have A/C compressor explosion issues....
Base Price: $25455
Tax@6% : $1527
Doc Fees: $68
OTD : $27050
Comments: Got it at the invoice price; dealer gave floor-mats for free; I got the color- glacier blue through dealer trade without any additional fees; Looking at supply-demand for this model and immediacy on my part, I am happy I have got it at the invoice price.
I'm just wondering why a dealer would sell a car we can't hardly get any of for that price?
You certainly did well but it makes no sense!
I just couldn't understand whay any dealer would cheap sell a car that is in such high deamand and low supply. Seems nuts but maybe CRV's aren't as popular in other parts of the country.
4WD EXL's here are scarce and in high demand.
Still nuts.
They also would not throw in free splash guards or car mats. I was tired of dealing as I've been to 3 different dealerships and this was by far the best deal. He did end up selling the splash guards at cost. Oh well, i'm happy with the purchase.
Just thought I'd post because I know the other info here has helped me.
Here's the breakdown:
Sale Price : $26600 (well below invoice imho)
Sales Tax : $1599 (6%)
Doc Fee: $57.33
What I don't understand is WHY a store would invest that kind of money in a great, high demand product and then cheap sell it.
Seems like there are better investments for their money.
Profit is profit. If it's $500 or $5000 it's still money.
Let's also not forget the service revenue they will get from the sale later on down the road as well.
If I paid 150,000 for our house 20 years ago and the houses in my neighborhood are now selling quickly for 550-600,000 dollars, than that is what I would expect more or less for it if we were to sell.
I wouldn't take 200,000 and be happy I had made a small profit.
That's all I was saying or trying to say.
Sorry if I offended anyone..