2013 and earlier-Honda CR-V Prices Paid and Buying Experience

stavi

jinva,

Does your 20,165 base include the destination charge? What kind of documentation fee did you have to pay? I am about to pull the trigger on an '06 LX 2WD (Red) and will consider Herson's.

--Stavi

barbecuesauce9

Looks like first batch are from Japan. Dealer's inventory is not up to date and most of them is like on-the-way vehicles.

You are paying over $150 invoice with non-negotiable dealer fee. Price seems to be fair at this time of year.

Anyone has any update on baltimore mess??

freddorf

Not sure if you've found one yet. I was also looking for an EX with stick. The '06 quotes were ranging from 22650 to 22850. Then I was lucky enough to find an '05 on one of the local dealer's lot, and with a bit of a struggle was able to buy it (including dest. charge) for $21,000, or $437 below invoice. (Cash, no trade-in). This is in the San Jose, CA area.

Good luck!

jimbres

Not yet, although work demands have forced me to suspend the search. I hope to jump back into the fray soon.

You negotiated a terrific price, BTW. Hope you enjoy your new vehicle. Please post your experience with it to the main CR-V board.

zakiman

Is this an 05 or an 06 CR-V that you bought ? We were looking a few weeks ago for the same exact car you bought and 2 dealers in Northern Virginia ( Landmark H and Bill Page H) would not negotiate the price i.e. they were offering it @ msrp price ( 26K+TTL+..I think). I have suspended the search since, but I may pay a visit to this dealer you bought from since I work in Maryland. Would it be better to buy it from MD rather than VA. Dealers in NVA jack up the price to maximize profit or to make that boat payment :- )

jinva

Stavi -

No, the base does not include the $550 destination charge. The doc fee is $100. To be clear about my deal, it was originally for an '05 that was supposed to come in, but didn't. So they offered me the same for an '06. I did find that, of the 3 dealers I visited, they had the best pricing & were the easiest to deal with. I suggest going on their website and asking for a quote for the vehicle you want from internet sales. My deal isn't done yet, but, so far, the experience has been very good. Good luck.

John

faith1

This is an 06 that I brought. There are two dealerships that I would recommend O'Donnell Honda located in Ellicott City, MD and Jim Coleman Honda in Clarksville, MD. If you have a Sams Cub membership, you can very close to invoice price. I visit O'Donnell in August, and informed them that I was a Sams Club member and they quoted me a price at invoice. This was on a 05 CRV SE - Taffeta White. Also, at O'Donnell, you received the vehicle they way it come from Honda. Accessories like mud packs, wheel locks are not added. For me that was less items to try to haggle over.

My preferred color was the Sahara Sand. This color was scarce in the month of August. I decided to purchase an 06. I spoke with the internet person at Jim Coleman Honda in Clarksville, and informed them that I was a Costco member,
He informed me that they were expecting their 06's in couple of weeks, and he gave me a quote of $100 over invoice. I thought this was excellent. I went for it.
I placed a deposit on 9/8 and on 9/28 I received my vehicle. E-mail me and I can tell my experience with the other dealerships and the individuals to talk to at O'Donnell and Jim Coleman.

windywoo

I have been quoted a price of $21883.00 (plus tag, taxes, etc) for an OTD price of $22760.96 for a 2005 CR-V EX AT. How does this sound for a 05 vehicle? Is it a good price or should I hold out for a 06? I have been quoted a price of $23890.00 for a 06 price. I have also been given a quote of $25702 OTD for a 06 SE. Please let me know what you think.

barbecuesauce9

It is better if you list car price including the destination charge + sales tax + tag or doc fee stuffs and your location.
$25702 for SE looks very good to me.

jimbres

When posting quotes, let's agree to exclude taxes & other government fees & charges that can vary widely from 1 state to the next (or even from 1 county to the next here in NY State). Otherwise, cross-state price comparisons aren't meaningful. Price quotes should be net of tax, title & license.

At the same time, let's agree to include the destination charge, which is a uniform $550 no matter where you buy the car.

smalbany

I think the price you have gotten on the 05 EX AT is very good. I prurchased an EX AT exactly one month ago for the same price. The difference between the 05 & 06 is the addtional factory warranty offered (5/60) for the new model year. With the price difference you have found between the two you can purchase a HondaCare warranty (online with Benardi Honda) for a longer period and still have $$$ left over. If you really wanted a SE, the price you have gotten seems quite competitive.
Good luck!

cramerica

Nothing great but paid $24,800 +TTL Several local dealers agreed to the price... but it was all about inventory.... held off on an 05 for the wife and she was growing tired of the wait. Thought I would be stuck closer to sticker this early in the cycle ... so I was happy.

tspring

Faith1 - I am shopping for an 06 CRV EX (auto). I live in S. MD, but am willing to drive to Baltimore area to get the vehicle for near invoice price as you did. I am interested in your experience with other dealerships, as well as the names of salespersons you dealt with at the two dealers you mentioned.

kyfdx

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dan bitman

I see a lot of guys buying brand new 05-06 CR-V's.
Is it worth buying brand new instead of a a 2-3 yrs used? Considering that in 2007, a brand new CR-V model will replace the current one.
Thanks,
Dan

kyfdx

Check around on the prices of used CR-Vs... I have an '02 CR-V EX .. with 54K miles.... 3 1/2 years old... I could probably get $14K-$15K for it.. I paid just under $22K brand new... I think the new one is definitely the better buy..

Resale of the first generation CR-Vs didn't seem to get hurt by the new one.. I totaled my '98 CR-V EX 5-speed in April of '02... 59K miles... The insurance company valued it at $14,700...

If you can find a great deal on a used one, then by all means... grab it... I don't see too many good deals, though... that goes for most Hondas.. Great new cars... expensive to buy used...

regards,
kyfdx

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tcasboy

Well I tried REALLY hard to buy a CR-V today, but wasn't able to reach a deal with the sales manager. I had called a dealer one state and 3 hours awaya couple of weeks ago to ask them about one I saw on their inventory list on the internet. The internet guy said he had no 5 speed manuals on the lot, said it usually took a couple of days to update the list after they sold. Later that week at my local dealer the salesman pulled up a list of manuals tranny models within 7 states and it was on there. I told him that it was sold, according to the dealer.

Today, just out of curiosity, and because the car was STILL listed in their inventory, I called them back and asked them about that stock number. The sales manager said they still had it and it was a manual tranny model. Imagine my surprise. So I decided I would bite the bullet and give it a shot.

Drove 3 hours and sure enough I was able to find it on the lot, a MANUAL tranny 05 EX that was one of my first color choices. I said lets give it a drive. This CR-V didn't exactly pull to the right, but I think it followed road crown and tire grooves a lot more than any car I have driven. This is the 4th CR-V I've test driven, and the first 2 definitely pulled whereas this one and the last one (both manuals) were much more "darty" than any other vehicle I have driven, but didn't go hard to the right when you let go of the wheel like the first 2 did (on level streets and not on the gas).

I drove the CR-V about 20 miles today and I was ready to buy it, but we couldn't come to terms on the price and my possible trade, so I drove back on home. Long trip to end up short, but the long drive back gave me a chance to realize that the CR-V may not be right for me after all, and I will start expanding my search.

I spent enough time in the seat of the CR-V to feel the unusual narrowness of the bolsters, and it felt like it was pushing my shoulders forward. I can see how the seats could be uncomfortable on longer trips. I also didn't think that it really had enough power, even with the manual tranny. You really need to rev it to get it going, and it is kind of loud under that kind of acceleration.

Still a very fine car with a lot of features for the price, just probably not the "truck" for me. The sales manager offered me 3000 less for my 2001 Audi A4 than CARMAX was going to give me to buy it outright, which was still about 1000 less than the average trade in value according to KBB, Edmunds and NADA. So we were WAY to far apart to even get into serious talks, I told him where I was at and if they got serious at the end of the month or year to give me a call.

I'm just about ticked enough at them for not giving me a correct answer over the phone before and their lowball offer for my trade that I probably wouldn't go all the way over there to buy it anyway.

I haven't had much luck with my local dealer salesman to try to go and find me a manual model (I bought an 04 Ody from him 2 years ago) so I am kind of at my wits end with the Honda salesmen. Another reason to start looking around at some other brands.

Good luck to all and thanks for the posts about their deals in the past.

nighteagle

Just purchased one of the last 2005 CR-V EX (Auto) that arrived Sept. 22. Paid 22,052 OTD which included the installation of Honda Trailer Hitch and wiring harness. My first Honda and I’m very pleased so far.

thecat

I've noticed that there aren't any Honda dealer websites with "Internet Pricing" posted. I can find dealer websites for almost any other brand (including Toyota) that have no haggle prices posted. Does Honda feel that that they are exclusive enough to not have to do this?

My local dealer (Baltimore Area) quoted me Edmunds TMV for an 06 SE. When I suggested that the TMV was a median price which means that somepeople are paying less and that I intend to be one of them. The conversation ended. I understand that dealers have to make money but they don't need to get rich on me. If I can't find someone that will offer a reasonable deal then maybe this just isn't the car for me.

nighteagle

The CR-V may not be. Check out the Rav4. I was torn between the CR-V and the Rav4 and finally settled on the Honda because of the standard safety features and my conversation with the manager of the Honda service department. I spent four days going back and forth (dealers where located across the street from each other) with test drives and negotiating a few dollars down with each trip. After my third visit I felt both salesmen had reached their bottom line ... at some point they need to either make the sale or move on...

nighteagle

The CR-V may not be. Check out the Rav4. I was torn between the CR-V and the Rav4 and finally settled on the Honda because of the standard safety features and my conversation with the manager of the Honda service department. I spent four days going back and forth (dealers where located across the street from each other) with test drives and negotiating a few dollars down with each trip. After my third visit I felt both salesmen had reached their bottom line ... at some point they need to either make the sale or move on...

smalbany

I purchased my CRV EX AT at Criswell in Germantown, MD. I got a very good deal and found them very pleasant to deal with. Other posters have told of positive experiences with Jim Coleman in Clarksville/Columbia. Another idea is to leveage a good deal through a fixed price program. AAA, Costco, Sams Club and most credit unions have car buying programs that "negotiate" a fixed price for their members at selected dealerships. There is also a free program called United Buying Service (UBS) that offers a similar service at no charge. The web site is http://www.ubs4cars.com/. You might find that these will help you in your purchase efforts.
Good luck!

isellhondas

It's a matter of the market determining prices.

CRV's are in short supply and high demand. They sell for what they are worth.

What you consider a "reasonable deal" made no sense to that dealer when he knows it'll sell quickly to someone else. Just the reality of the market.

Unlike a lot of the other manufactures, Honda doesn't pad the MSRP so they can show you a big "discount". On a SE CRV, there is only about 1800.00 between the invoice and the MSRP.

Funny, people come here to get the "TMV" on a car and then they still want to pay less?

thecat

As someone who's income is directly connected to getting as much for a vehicle as possible your take on this is in diametric opposition to mine as a buyer. Car dealers are the ones that created this "lets make a deal" system. If that were not the case all cars would have a no haggle price and that would be the end of it. Your seeming offense at my position is disingenuous. I'm just trying to play the game you guys created. So, there is nothing funny about a buyer attempting to get the lowest price they can. Again, the TMV is an average price. That means that 1/2 sell for less and 1/2 sell for more. I want to pay less and apparently many people are paying less. BTW, the difference between invoice and MSRP is closer to $2k but that doesn't include dealer holdback, and who knows what other incentives there are between the factory and the dealer. You tell me, what is a reasonable profit for a dealer to make on this vehicle?

Like I said, if I can't find the deal I want .. maybe a Honda CRV just isn't the car for me.

sockpuppet1969

Try carsdirect.com. They may be able to find you the car you want through their nationwide network of dealers (if you don't mind traveling to pick it up). Fixed price, no negotiating.

Just a thought.

rroyce10

..... **BTW, the difference between invoice and MSRP is closer to $2k but that doesn't include dealer holdback...**

But holdback has never been a profit center ... it goes to offset the cost of the standing inventory ... most stores are lucky to offset 80/90% of their floorplan expense ..... so your point is.?

Terry.

thecat

Terry - I simply identified some of the known profit that a dealer makes. Holdback is one of them. I realize that every business has operating expences. That is why I asked the question "You tell me, what is a reasonable profit for a dealer to make on this vehicle?"

thecat

BTW - I just checked the inventory of the dealer in question. They have 13 - 2006 CRV's on the lot.

isellhondas

Yeah, maybe you should buy an Escape or something that HAS to be deeply discounted in order to sell.

I think you missed my point...what a dealer may have paid for a car has nothing to do with that car's market value.

I do agree with you. I hate the haggling part too. Cars should just sell for sticker and then both of us would be happy!

isellhondas

Terry, I have become so tired of explaining how holdback works that I just won't do it anymore. Some people think it's pure bottom line profit. Some seem to think it's "their" money.

If these people had ANY IDEA of our operating expenses, just to open the doors every month, they would be shocked.

You and I do know and that's why we get a bit testy when people rub holdback in our faces!

isellhondas

So?

We are the largest dealer in the state where I work. If you "checked" my inventory right now I would probably show 13 too. In reality, I probably have 8 or 9.

That is a VERY slim inventory!

thecat

to my question "what is a reasonable profit". I'm aware of the significant operating costs of a car dealer... bright lights, big building, inventory, advertising, etc. I'm also aware that the showroom only represents a portion of the dealers income. Service probably generates as much or more revenue than sales.

The condescending nature of your responses is neither necessary or appropriate. I haven't posted anything but reasonable questions and comments This is an information forum .. I'm in pursuit of information.

isellhondas

I guess I reacted in turn to your tone. It's hard to express oneself in forums like this without giving the wrong impression.

To answer your question...I would venture that on a 20,000 car a dealer should be able to make perhaps a 7 percent GROSS profit or around 1500.00.

Compare that to the percentage of profits other retail establishments make!

Maybe Terry has a different idea of what is reasnoble?

gearjammer62

I paid what Edmunds quoted as invoice, plus $100 in "documentation" fees, for my wife's '05 CR-V EX last July. At that price, Honda and it's dealers are making a profit on the car. And as the buyer, I felt like I got a "deal". It's called a "win-win". Of course, this was before gas hit $3, and the demand for "smaller" SUV went up at the expense of the bigger ones.

maferna

Some people think it's pure bottom line profit.

??? Last time I checked, anything that decreases expenses INCREASES profits.

isellhondas

Holdback **helps** pay for flooring and advertising.

maferna

Exactly, anything that **helps** to decrease flooring and advertising increase profits

rroyce10

...... Yikes.! ... I wouldn't want you as my CPA ...l.o.l.....



Terry.

maferna

OK, enlighten me then

Kirstie_H

We're kinda clogging up the CR-V discussion with conversation that's not related specifically to this vehicle. We've got a couple of discussions that are better suited for this:
Dealer Holdback questions
Any Questions for a Car Dealer?

Please continue in one of the above - thanks!

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rstdriver

I paid $22500 this weekend for an 06 EX AT in Hopkins Honda in Hopkins, MN. There was a dealer in Des Moines, IA who would have sold it for $22400 but the drive would have been twice as long. Determine how much you want to pay and how far you want to drive. Then send out emails and see who bites. Some will blow you off and some will deal.

barbecuesauce9

Got a quote for $24149 from David Michael Motor Group of Freehold in NJ
Cheaper than what I paid.
A good chance for anyone in NY/NJ who is looking for SE.

sky23213

Congratulations on your new EX! Good points, good choice - I bought from them too, the Internet Mgr was nice and easy to deal with; matched a very aggressive quote from their other dealership in Brooklyn Park - invoice on the car, accessories retail. Enjoy your new CRV!

josz

I got this offer from a Florida dealer on a Sahara Sand Metallic 2005 CR-V EX AT. What do you think about this offer? The invoice of this car is $22,268. Dealer fee is included in the offer. I test drive this car. There is NO PTTR problem. Downside is it is built in England.

jinva

We are getting our '06 LX AWD today. It was built in England. $21250 + 100 + TTL (includes security system (331), tweeters (171), & wheel locks (80)).

barbecuesauce9

06 EX is about $22500-22700 plus delaer fee and TTL.
Your price for 05 EX is $21568 + dealer fee $500 plus TTL.
So there is about $1000 difference. You may purchase honda care or purchase 06.
Guess no one in this forum is able to tell you which one you have to buy.
Make your mind and go for it!!
DId you ask the dealer when your 05 was made? you do not want to get one made in summer time and used for the floor model or something.
I thought you are looking for LX? EX is worth it though!

josz

I saw from the side door label that this car was made on 08/05. When I test drive it, It has 16 miles on it. and I added 3 miles more.

Yes, I was looking for LX. But the problem is I do not like the black interior color if I go with Silver exterior color. Then, the best choice for me is Sahara sand exterior+ Ivory interior. I searched all honda dealers around and only found one CRV with Sahara sand color, which is a 05 EX AWD. I noticed that Ivory interior color is easy to give one opinion that it looks dirty. Probably the ivory color is too light to hide any dirty stuffs.

dan bitman

I need advice from you guys, on what's preferable:
to include the options and accessories in the negotiation price of a new CRV-LX-base
OR
negotiate for the best price of the car as it is and acquire the accessories aftermarket .

Options and access. I am interested are:
alum. wheels
cargo cover,
roof rack crossbars and ski rack
trailer towing hitch

Also, could you please share Insurance premiums you pay for new CRV and how reasonable are ( or not) for this specific vehicle
Thanks,
Dan

barbecuesauce9

you choose the color so all you have to do is choose 05 or 06.
If you prefer one made in Japan,first batch appears to be from Japan.
Make your mind on 05 or 06 then locate the vehicle.
05/06 sahara sand looks little lighter than 04 model. Close to beige. I love that color.