2013 and earlier-Honda CR-V Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • bravelybravely Member Posts: 8
    That price is for one w/o NAVI. It is from the internet dept at Heritage Honda in Baltimore, MD area. I just bought one there as well, arrives Tuesday, I hope. I asked about NAVI and the salesman said not till March. The difference in invoice price between an EX-L and an EX-L NAVI model is $1845. Supposedly they only became avail a month ago, and people were ordering them since last summer, so those buyers are getting them now. I don't think you'll get much of a break on a NAVI model for awhile, too much demand.
    I live in NY state, no one budges off MSRP, only by a few hundred, and then wants to sock it to you on your trade and fees. The fee at Heritage is $99. We have a quote at Paramus Honda (NJ), dealer fee $129, obtained for us by a long time employee for $25000 for an EX-L arriving in late January, and we put a deposit on it, have the VIN#, but my husband doesn't want to wait that long. The $25k quote is impossible to touch in this area. We called 25 other dealers around here, no one has any stock, and no one will go as low. Why should they, these cars fly off the lot. At Paramus, we are on a month long wait list, even w/deposit. We started in our area and called south, Philly and Delaware large dealers also had no stock and wanted MSRP to be on an order list. So we are driving 240 miles to Parkville, MD. We figure if Heritage won't give us a decent trade value, we'll wait until the end of January for Paramus Honda.
    In any area, if you are seriously looking for this car, I would recommend getting internet quotes from an expanding radius of your hometown. Since farther north and west of us was snow country, we concentrated south. Most of our inquiries did generate a response but not a quote. I called them once I had the internet dept dealer's name and I used our $25k figure, most said MSRP. If you want NAVI, say $26.6k and see what that gets. The NAVI is so cool, we saw it in a Ridgeline. But our trade in has a new check engine lite every other month or so so it's time to say goodbye. This forum was invaluable to me in researching how to buy a car. I also read online from other sources. Each time you buy you learn a little more.
    We went to Garden State Honda (NJ) after ordering in Paramus to see if they had any stock, showed them our invoice with $25k, they supposedly had three. After 3 hours of searching various lots, none to be had. Then they found one at another dealer and tried to get us to go for $26k, a crappy trade value, and $300 plus in dealer fees. They came down to $25435 and would not move from there, even with a trade value that was over $1000 below the "fair" value for our car. We left and I started calling dealers the next day to see if anyone had any stock. Most did not, the one who did would not bargain. Every one of them was waiting for delivery dates in late January. That's when I started my email search.
    If you are anywhere near to Baltimore, I would definitely try Heritage In Parkville. Guess we will really know for sure next week when we go to pickup, hopefully.

    Merry Christmas to all!!
  • zeenzeen Member Posts: 401
    I recommend waiting. Why line the pockets of these dealers if you don't absolutely need a new vehicle right now. Patience. The prices will come down.
  • bghunterbghunter Member Posts: 10
    thanks much to everyone for your input--espec bravely for your detail. It appears that waiting would be the right thing to do, but what if u want the car now?!
    Anyway, maybe a different forum--but is it wise to trade a subaru outback for honda cr-v, if 1 the many reasons is safety when driving in snowy/icy conditions? (the other main reason is space). thanks again to all!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    Why would a CR-V be safer than the Outback?

    Not saying it is, or it isn't... just curious..

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  • bravelybravely Member Posts: 8
    Our Subaru is a 2000 Legacy GT, 5 speed. It is my 5th Subaru. You can't beat the handling, especially in wet conditions. But it's 7 years old now and starting to show it's age. The head gaskets and catalytic converter were replaced under extended warranty. I think it's time to pull the plug. These sensor lights are troubling. We had it to the dealer, it's $1000 to fix the latest check engine warning. I've also had a Honda Civic DL that went almost 300,000 miles. I've heard similar complaints from other Subaru owners. But the main reasons we're switching to Honda is the reliability and that a good friend is a Honda mechanic, so he can pretty much solve any future issues.
  • bghunterbghunter Member Posts: 10
    not sure, ergo the question :-)

    never had a honda, first subaru (current), have always had toyota, but think i've outgrown toyota (have had celica, corolla, camry, rav4[when it first came out], 4runner, and highlander).
    considering cr-v since it sits higher,appears to have more space,etc.. so just want to make sure it's as good as subaru for driving in bad weather...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,222
    If you often face heavy snow.... dirt and gravel roads, mountain driving, etc, etc.. then the AWD of the Subaru would likely be superior..

    If you live in the Midwest with average snowfall and all paved roads, then you'll likely never encounter a situation that the CR-V can't handle.

    That's just my experience from driving the two previous generation CR-Vs over the last 8 years. The new CR-V has a similar drivetrain, plus stability control, so it is very safe. The only issue would be in near off-road conditions.

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  • bghunterbghunter Member Posts: 10
    thanks for the info. maybe it's optical illusion, but thought cr-v can cut through heavy snow better (ie higher car/bigger?). is it worth it to get EX-L with nav, or EX-L without, or even EX model, then get portable GPS? are dealers willing to go down on price more on LX or EX models vs. EX-L (or vice versa?), or none of the above?!!
    merry xmas.
  • nearmspnearmsp Member Posts: 90
    I have been in the Minneapolis market for some time. I am seeing a greater discounting in the LX area with Ex-L and EX-L w/navigation having lesser discounting. That said I believe that this is a temporary situation. If one waits until another few months, one can get much better pricing. Demand and supply are not in equilibrium right now. I don't plan on a navigation vehicle, because I have a Garmin Nuvi 360. It has blue tooth connectivity as well and more importantly I frequently connect it to my laptop for firmware updates. Garmin is great in supporting its products. I don't know if the CR-V voice directions can pronounce street names, like the nuvi.
  • bghunterbghunter Member Posts: 10
    i'm sure you're right...as is everyone who says to wait. I'd also heard that subaru might come out with a hybrid version of the tribeca, sometime in 2008; with potential much better mileage on tribeca, the market then might also be different.
    hopefully, they'll also come down with price on cars with built in nav system...since portable gps system's doing well for most people. maybe a different forum..but would u say garmin is better than tomtom vs. magellan vs.etc..? thanks.
  • nearmspnearmsp Member Posts: 90
    I researched the various forums before deciding on the Nuvi. Consumer reports also rated Garmin Nuvi above Tom-Tom etc. Garmin has head office in the US and Tom-Tom in Europe. I reckoned dealing with a US designed and focussed product is better. Garmin has an excellent after sales service and support. A good web site to research more is on the gpspassion forum below. I am extremely satisfied with Nuvi 360. If your budget is tight Nuvi 350 is has everything that 360 has but without the blue tooth connectivity. If I bought again, I would buy the Nuvi 350 or the new 660 which can transmit through the FM radio system.

    http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=172
  • twilight1twilight1 Member Posts: 2
    Hi everyone, I don't have much experience buying a car and would love some comments on my quote:

    '07 CR-V LX 2WD for $21,700 out the door in the bay area -- does that sound like a good price or should i look for a better price? (I compared internet prices at about half a dozen places)

    I saw somewhere in this thread someone got same model in the bay area for $20,900 out the door a week ago and now am a little worried!

    Also, does the Edmunds TMV number include taxes and fees? I was trying to compare my quote to what others were paying but wasn't sure ...

    Thanks for any help!
  • twilight1twilight1 Member Posts: 2
    what happened to the price? i'm looking for LX 2WD in the bay area and the lowest out the door price i could find was 21,700 ... would really like not to pay more than i have to.
  • snoopy21snoopy21 Member Posts: 114
    twilight, you really cannot compare out-the-door prices. in the bay area, i think you're paying around 8.25% in sales tax whereas in some places, they may only be paying 6.00% (that's a difference of over $400 right there). from my best guess, the $21,700 price you got is pretty good if it breaks down like this:

    $19,061 invoice
    $595 destination
    $1,622 sales tax (at 8.25%)
    $300 title and registration
    $100 doc fee
    -----------------
    $21,678 total

    that would put you at right around invoice...i think that's pretty good!
  • snoopy21snoopy21 Member Posts: 114
    nearmsrp, we have exactly the same taste. i too prefer garmin and am planning to upgrade to either the 350 or the 660 (i currently have the garmin quest). i'm sure magellan and tom-tom are good but i prefer going with the leader here (in fact, garmin is suing tom-tom over patent infringement)...plus, i just happen to like the design and interface of the garmin units better. YMMV
  • bghunterbghunter Member Posts: 10
    thanks much for the info. very helpful link/forum on gps.
  • rocuriumrocurium Member Posts: 12
    i received my honda CRV EX-L yesterday. the car looks very nice. and the OTD price was $ 26537 including wheel locks. so far i am very happy with the car and did not the difference between a V4 vs. V6 as i previously had a Toyota Avalon. i have never had an AWD before and noted that the car will have noise when it is idle at the R and D mode. any input will be appreciated. :D
  • wagnerpewagnerpe Member Posts: 21
    Is anyone financing their new CR-V through Honda Finance? If so, what kind of rate are you getting? Over the last 12 months I’ve kept up to date on the various specials that Honda runs for financing and, if they are running a finance special, they seem to advertise 4.9% as the “special” rate for 60 month loans (Currently only for the Element). If 4.9% is the special rate (obviously not in effect for the CR-V), what’s the regular rate?
  • chief71chief71 Member Posts: 12
    I had an E-Loan check in hand and went to the dealer to buy an EX-L at Jay Wolfe Honda in Kansas City. My E-Loan rate was 6.09 for a 60 month and 6.69 for a 72 month. My dealer's finance department said they could beat it. They gave me the option of 5.74 for a 60 month or a 6.44 for a 72 month loan. Not much of a difference but I went with it anyways. I have excellent credit with an 827 credit score. That was the best I could do.
  • suvpassionsuvpassion Member Posts: 10
    Hi All,

    I am buying my first car, and I need some help.

    1) I got a quote of 23,650$ OTD for CRV-EX (non-leather) including Taxes (Virginia has only--3%tax)

    How much can I bring the dealer down?

    2) I am looking to install GPS on the new car (EX-L model goes upto 27k).

    I guess this is an open ended question but I am thinking where would be the best place to get the GPS, and installed in the new car? I can spend upto $1000 for GPS.

    Thanks
  • ashleyklamashleyklam Member Posts: 6
    Hey suvpassion,
    That sounds a little high for the CRV-EX OTD price to me. I got the CRV-EXL (with leather) OTD price at not much higher than that, and there is supposed to be about a $2000 difference in price, so the dealers say. Sales tax in Texas is 6.25%, so factor that difference in too. I definitely wouldn't pay over $23k for the EX.

    Good luck!
  • good_buygood_buy Member Posts: 1
    I got it for $23,188 including destination, before tax, title,... It might be little bit more than $23,100 posted from other thread but I am happy I got it. Also, I had to pay $125 for doc fees. The dealer was Honda Barn in North Reading. I strongly recommend this place. It might not be the cheapest but they are very easy to deal with. I was able to make a deal in 1 hour. I am picking my male menopause toy on Friday. This forum helped me a lot on price and dealership selection. I hope this helps others as well.
  • bghunterbghunter Member Posts: 10
    i agree that sounds kinda high for EX model, plus if your tax is only 3% (didn't even know that possibility exists!!). anyway, maybe should shop around a bit more....
    it does make sense to get model without navi if you're budget conscious (like me), plus you get to have your navi system wherever u go. but that EX-L with navi looks so awesome, i must say!

    anyway, check out message #3993 re: gps system--very helpful for me. garmin nuvi system appears to get more votes...
  • suvpassionsuvpassion Member Posts: 10
    All,

    Thanks a lot for replying and helping me out.. I really really apprecaite it

    So it looks like CRV-EX should be less then 23,600$ for sure. Wooooooowww.

    Could some of you tell me what/how should I put this in front of the dealer? I told him that I need the car for invoice price(edmunds says crv-ex invoice is 22,244) + 600 taxes + approx. 200-300$ freight,handling etc. So total for CRV EX comes to 23,650$.

    What should I think/do and tell the dealer for counter deal this price?

    PLEASE HELP
  • alextsaialextsai Member Posts: 2
    Hi Ashley,

    Glad to know you got a good deal. I lived in Texas and would like to get a EX-L AWD but unable to get a decent quota from the dealers nearby. could you please pass me the dealer and salesperson contact information? (I can be reached by email ac at carspace) many thanks.

    Alex
  • snoopy21snoopy21 Member Posts: 114
    for those of you looking to buy, i'd just like to offer some friendly advice.

    instead of asking dealers for quotes, i recommend a different tact. every dealer is scared silly of sending out decent quotes for fear that all you'd do is shop his quoted price around...admit it, you would! (i know i would) :blush:

    i recommend:

    1. figure out what you want to pay and what you're willing to pay (two different things)

    2. then, choose the dealership(s) you most want to buy from and email the fleet/internet manager with your offer. be very specific but firm, e.g.,

    "i'm interested in buying a new 2007 CR-V EX-L AWD in green tea metallic. my offer for that vehicle is $24,700 (including destination but plus TTL). if that price is acceptable to you, please contact me immediately as i am ready to buy.

    craig v.
    crave@myhonda.com
    (345) 786-8xxx"


    3. i'll practically guarantee that you'll start generating some genuine interest this way. if not your offer price, you'll probably receive at least a few competitive counteroffers for you to ponder.
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    I registered to respectfully claim BS on this post...what $ amount is 'not much higher'?...first off I will assume she is talking about a 2WD version...invoice on this car is 23530...tax would be 1470 for an OTD (minus license since I don't know what Texas does here) total of 25000...which is a lot higher to me...if she even got invoice which is doubtful.
  • happcamhappcam Member Posts: 3
    I just purchased a CR-V EX-L for $24,700 plus destination and taxes. Pretty pleased with the deal. Went around to a couple of dealerships -- most would not budge, but I was insistent. Excited to get the car! :)
  • happcamhappcam Member Posts: 3
    I just purchased a CR-V EX-L for $24,700 plus destination and taxes. Pretty pleased with the deal. Went around to a couple of dealerships -- most would not budge, but I was insistent. Excited to get the car! This is a AWD btw.
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    Unit on order for $650 over invoice ($25287 including destination) in AZ...OTD total is a little over $28K.
  • tinnawoodstinnawoods Member Posts: 4
    I have an offer for this model at $22695 in Seattle area. Is it a good price? Does everyone has known how much should I ask for this model OTD? Is there everyone looking for similar model in the same area? I asked for a quote from other dealers too. I couldn't find anyone lower than that price or haven't got any email back from them. I am so stress out. Looking forward for your input. Thanks!
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    Looks like you paid $8 more than me...

    :o)
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    Well, MSRP is 21195 (invoice is 19656) so it looks like they are marking it up 1500 over MSRP...so I'd start looking out of state or wait until the market in Seattle cools down.
  • wagnerpewagnerpe Member Posts: 21
    There are two schools of thought on this and one is certainly yours. The other is to never make a first offer because you are establishing a ground that the dealer knows he will not have to go below to make the sale.

    When buying my 06 Accord last April, I did a bit of a blend. I consulted this board and my fighting chance packet and came up with a number which was as low as anyone had said they had paid. I think (don't remember exactly) $50 or $100 off that price and sent e-mails to dealerships stating that I had a quote of $X and would they be willing to match or beat it. Some said no way, but one dealership "matched" it, and all you need is one. They did want to know where the quote was from and I said I didn't feel comfortable telling them that but that it was in the Chicagoland area (but that their dealership was closer to home), and that was that.

    It worked well for me, and hope it will again for my eventual C-RV shopping. I'm definitely taking a wait and see attitude now though. I want to see what happens to the price when US production is full steam - I'm thinking summer for me.
  • suvpassionsuvpassion Member Posts: 10
    Where can we find correct invoice for this model? Edmunds claim the invoice to be 22,244$.

    Considering VA has 3% taxes, how much should the car OTD be on the road? Can there be negotiation on Freight(what is this?) and Destination, Handling Charges?

    Much appreciate if people shed their inputs :-)
  • suvpassionsuvpassion Member Posts: 10
    this index is simply has great pieces of advice..thx much guys..
  • tinnawoodstinnawoods Member Posts: 4
    bmwguy23!
    Thanks so much for your input. Actually, the $22695 includes destination charge plus TTL. It is the total price the dealer gave me. I haven't negotiated with them back yet. I am not sure how much I should go down from that amount. I have been thinking of $22000 OTD. Thanks!
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    You have to be careful...that Edmunds invoice does not include destination (same as freight)...

    Your price should be invoice plus some negotiated amount plus that amount times 3% for taxes plus any license fees.
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    OK, not knowing all your fees, I think you should be happy with anything around $500-750 over invoice.
  • nearmspnearmsp Member Posts: 90
    I don't think the US production will effect the US market price. My reasoning is like this. US has the lowest car tarrifs in the world. Honda imports CR-Vs from Japan in to the US and sells it locally. What they manufacture in the US, they export at preferential tarrifs to other Nafta countries, which otherwise would have higher tarrifs.

    Honda makes 75% of its global profits in the US and I am intrigued that they are not diverting CR-V production from their other 7 world wide manufacturing locations to the US. Not everyone will fork out top dollars or wait a few months, - some will just go out and buy a RAV4 or a Subaru.

    I personally am inclined not to join the frenzy and fork out near MSRP price for something that will be discounted come September 07. This is especially so when I read members of this forum from other states are reporting great deals. I think the LX/2WD are in demand in the warmer regions and EX-L AWD are hot in the midwest and cooler regions of the US.
  • snoopy21snoopy21 Member Posts: 114
    today's CR-V prices (invoice and MSRP) are not necessarily the prices they'll be a few months from now. for example, while we were on a waiting list for our '01 odyssey, honda raised the price in march of that year. demand, currency markets, cost of raw materials (especially steel) and labor all can have an affect. also, as we head into summer when oil prices tend to shoot up, i wouldn't be surprised to see the destination charge go up either. mid-year price adjustments used to be commonplace and toyota certainly never shies away from them (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16225640/) but i dunno about honda. now, i'm not saying prices will go up but it is something to consider.
  • wagnerpewagnerpe Member Posts: 21
    Good thought. Does anyone know how often this happens?
  • ashleyklamashleyklam Member Posts: 6
    BMWguy,
    Pardon me for trying to help someone else through their buying experience. I did not quantify what "not much higher" was, but if you must know what I paid, you can see my prior post about buying the car two weeks ago. I was simply stating that the difference I ended up paying between the EX and EXL version tells me that this poster would be paying too much. I guess from now on I will just keep my opinions to myself...........jeez :mad:
  • wagnerpewagnerpe Member Posts: 21
    Interesting thoughts. I'm thinking prices will come down, or rather dealers will be more willing to negotiate, when the sheer number of cars is more plentiful, which I would think would happen when the OH plant starts cranking them out.

    Like I said, I'm likely not going to buy until summer, but when I check online for availability at local dealers, they each only have 2 - 5 CR-Vs in stock. That seems very limited to me. Granted I have only purchased an Accord and a Civic (pre-redesign), but they were always plentiful on the lots - all different colors and trim levels to choose from.

    I'm hoping that will be the case here, too.
  • wagnerpewagnerpe Member Posts: 21
    That's right.

    The invoice prices for the EX are:

    2WD: $21,137
    4WD: $22,244

    Destination is $595.

    You can not negotiate destination, tax, title or plates. These are items that the dealer has to pay and passes on to you and should be the same all over the state. I've never heard of handling charges from a Honda dealer, that charge should not exist, in fact aside from destination, tax, title and plates there should no other costs other than the car itself. I've heard rumors that Honda was going to start charging advertising fees which most car companies do - they were not charging them as of April, 2006. If they are charging ad fees, those too should be the same all over and I imagine you have to pay that number, too.

    Just negotiate on the price of the car, keeping in mind that you will have to pay these other items. In fact, I wouldn't let them take money off of any of those fees - take money off the price of the car because the lower the cost of the car - the lower your tax will be.
  • bmwguy23bmwguy23 Member Posts: 44
    Sorry, no offense intended, but I thought your post was vague and not very helpful. Specifics make things easier...a lot of people here are trying to compare apples to oranges by not indicating their exact trim with 2WD or 4WD, etc.

    It makes it easier to talk in terms of amount over invoice...so it looks like you paid about $1K over...not the best and not the worst.

    EDIT, looks like the other guy is about $1300 over invoice...so you are right he can probably do better...I think anything around $750 over invoice right now is pretty good.
  • ashleyklamashleyklam Member Posts: 6
    Hey, maybe I was too touchy. I don't post on these boards too terribly often and I was hoping to be helpful, but you are right, I could have been more specific. No harm done.....Happy New Year's all!
  • rose3339rose3339 Member Posts: 1
    Where did you purchase? I can't get close to that price. I'm looking for a black 2007 CRV EX-L with leather. Thanks! :(
  • nearmspnearmsp Member Posts: 90
    I doubt that Honda would introduce a new model at the end of September and then increase the price in less than a year. This December most auto companies had 5% lower sales compared to same time last year. Auto business is very competitive and people can easily put off buying by up to a year. So price increases are generally below inflation. Yes, destination price could increase, especially with the world wide shortage in shipping capacity - particulary to the US. Most ships go empty back and China imports a lot of US scrap metal in them at bargain transportation costs.
  • hondagal3hondagal3 Member Posts: 8
    to SUVPASSION: I live in Alexandria and the VA & close-by MD dealers were too much. Went to Hagerstown Honda in reply to my e-mailed RFQ and got an OTD price w/some options added for 2007 CR-V EX-L 4WD AWD w/NAV for MSRP* of vehicle alone!. The prices are holding in the DC region so I saved $2,000+ vs most dealers' OTD quotes. They are not as friendly as @Hagerstown either! Worth the trip.
    *only have to pay for tags in VA after docs arrive in 3-4 weeks.
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