2013 and earlier-Honda CR-V Prices Paid and Buying Experience

kiawah

TTL is Title, Taxes, and License Fees

OTD is Out the Door.....which includes everything (car, administrative/doc fees, TTL)

cravehonda

I highly recommend Weymouth Honda MA, a smaller dealership. The salesman Dave is very professional and helpful. They do not have one (EX-L) on lot though; we were lucky enough to wait for only two weeks to get an EX-L AWD (glacier blue). We picked up our car Jan 31. The price is unbeatable and the transaction is very smooth.

isellhondas

" And don't try to trade in a vehicle with a check engine light lit"

Excellent advise. the person trading in the car will always try to convince us that it's something minor.

" Oh, that's just a loose wire" or.. " Oh, that light has been on for years"

Well, we sure can't sell a car with a check engine light on and the person appraising the car has to assume it's the worst thing it can possibly be. I remember we once had to send a Volvo to the dealer for a check engine light and the bill came to 1400.00!

pandaman1784

I have a friend who is a salesman at a Honda dealer in NYC and he told me that as far as he's been told, 2WD CR-Vs are built-to-order.

As for the numbers of CR-Vs that are in dealerships in the NYC area, most of them don't have or just a few (mostly in the EX-L trim). But it really depends on the dealership you go. His dealership only has the demo model on the lot. The CR-Vs which he has sold lately have been ones in a shipment that should arrive sometime this week. He said that the ones that are unsold at the time of delivery are sold pretty quickly afterwards. The 07 CR-Vs are really in demand in the area. I tried getting quotes for a Silver 07 CR-V EX for my uncle last week and most of them were asking for MSRP (or at most a few hundred off) and they said they didn't have any for immediate delivery. They were all trying to get me to put a deposit down on one that was on its way in.

Does anyone know how the delivery system works? I asked my friend and I didn't really under his answer. Is there one big delivery meant for a given area (such as NYC) and each dealership sells from it, or does each dealership get their own shipment of vehicles?

mikes2

Just wanted to mention that I don't think this price is true. Cdn$2,400 off of MSRP would almost be invoice. I also got the pricing from the APA and their pre-arranged price is Cdn$900 over invoice for all models except for EX-L which is Cdn$1,0000.

asmd

its been almost two weeks since my last post regarding unavailability of the cr-v affecting prices... and the good folks at honda still havent fix supply yet. sigh.
most places in houston still are asking for msrp.

anybody know of any dealer in houston that have gotten a decent deal? would appreciate it heaps.

regards,
asmd.

myblackz

Goodson Honda on 1960 and 45 had one on their lot a couple of nights ago. A beige one. By the time I got there the next day it was gone.

Three months ago, I put out some feelers for one and they only offered me $100 below MSRP.

It's a nice car, but I just can't see paying $23K for one. I think the prices are artificially high right now due to the high demand for the vehicle and it's low supply, so, I'll just wait till supply eventually surpasses demand and make my move then.

I keep bringing to mind when that Chrysler PT cruiser came out and how much people were paying to be the first on their block with one. Quite a few people got hosed on that one.

drive62

For future reference. Most CELs can be disabled by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes or so. Assuming there is a problem most probably come back but in the short time you are having the dealer check out your vehicle they won't know. Unless of course they do a diagnostic.

ccacp

In Canada, you can go to the fleet guy and try 2400 off. Soemone on hondasuv.com got 2400 off.

wavegrl

Thanks drive62, my car buff brother-in-law concurs with you, so we'll see if that works. He gave us some other things to check out as well for the problem.

BTW for New England shoppers, the folks at Boch Honda are very good to deal with, they have a lot of CRVs on their lot. They did say that they had one EX-L in green tea/ivory 2WD for 24k. I am a terrible coffee-spiller so it's a no-go for me but someone neater out there in greater Boston might like it. Saccucci Honda in Newport is my next stop. The owner is a friend of a friend who got a CRV that she's really happy with...so we shall see.

jdwksu

Call your state's Attorney Generals Office and explain the situation. Give them the dealership, sale persons name etc...

They will honor their previous sales agreement after the States Attorney Generals Office gives them a call.

They will very quickly reverse their poor decision process.

wavegrl

Just wanted to report that I got my full deposit back promptly from skanky Silko Honda in Raynham, MA. Spoke with another dealer this morning via personal referral to his dealership owner. He was very honest and very helpful. He could not believe the numbers on my sales agreement. He said I was never going to get my car for the price on the sales agreement and that the sales manager knew it before I walked out the door the first visit. They just wanted to get me on paper, get a deposit and get us out of the market. They were counting on my excitement, impatience, confusion at the last minute to make us turn on each other and cave rather than be disappointed. He said they would have put any number down to get me on the hook. It's a bad tactic but must work often enough to be a profitable scheme for them. He said there was no way he would sell under MSRP because frankly, there are so many of us that no dealer has to at this point. He said MSRP is a great price on a great car and Honda doesn't have to wheel and deal on this model (ahem, this is now isellhondas opportunity to say "I told you so..." He did however suggest that I consider getting LX AWD with the aftermarket leather and heated seats as part of my package for 25k OTD. I thought about it but my husband is still so incredibly steamed that he doesn't want to jump through hoops and he doesn't like Honda salesman enough to listen to anything they have to say right now. Sooo, I'll be cooling my jets and sitting on the sideline to see what happens through the spring and summer. Good luck to all and I hope you find the CRV of your dreams and have a great ride. Thanks for all you support and advice.

yakultspits

Hey wavegrl, sorry to hear of your experience but thanks for sharing it. I will also be buying in the metro-Boston market later this year so your info was very useful.

stevedebi

"For future reference. Most CELs can be disabled by disconnecting the battery for 10 minutes or so. Assuming there is a problem most probably come back but in the short time you are having the dealer check out your vehicle they won't know. Unless of course they do a diagnostic."

If it's a CR-V, be sure and write down the anti-theft code first. Also, many Honda's will require the Idle Learn Procedure after such a power outage.

wavegrl

When you are shopping try Saccucci Honda in the Newport, RI area and check out Boch Honda on 128 in Norwood. Both were very straight forward about what they could do and they did not treat me like an idiot. Good luck. I'll be lurking in case somebody in our area gets a great deal.

taxlawyer

Out of curiousity, does anyone know if the 4wd is necessary if the driver has no intention of using the vehicle in off road conditions. Honda boasts that the VSA (skid control) maintains its stability. So then why would anyone need 4wd for normal driving conditions? Sounds silly but the added cost for 4wd is $1,200. All wasted if the feature isn't needed. I noticed that subaru offers both on most of its models but its seems like a redundant feature.

And by the way, if the 4wd doesn't do anything (or activate) in most driving conditions, why then does it impact the mpg?

Advice would be appreciated from anyone who knows.

Thanks

cravehonda

I don't believe that CRV has to be sold at MSRP. My EX-L (3 weeks ago) is close to invoice price, and I am sure dealers will not lose money. I highly recommended Weymouth Honda MA, a smaller dealership. The name of my salesman is Dave. The sale at smaller dealership tends to be slower (seems all buyers will at least try Boch, Herb Chambers, ...), which makes it possible to get sweeter deals.

brianjandreau

I agree. People need to read through the previous posts!!!

People like you and I have posted several times that we were able to negotiate deals just over invoice.

wavegrl

I think you are both right. I knew about the place in Weymouth but it's just a bit outside my range but now that I've exhausted all the possibilities down here, it's time to contact them. Or take a break and try again. I'm sure it's just a matter of being patient, tenacious and sticking to my budget. Now if I could just get my husband to stop spitting nails every time I mention a CRV...

mikes2

Actually, just so people don't rush off and try and get CDN$2400 off, I don't believe the post in question says that if you look at it closely - I think it instead suggest that the APA price is CDN$2400 off of MSRP. That's not the case, as mentioned in my prior post. In addition, that would mean selling the car almost at invoice, which isn't realistic given the high demand for them.

ccacp

Actually, demand for the higher end cars is not that high. I just looked at inventory on one of the dealer web sites in BC (Canada) and they have 30 on hand !

With an MSRP of 38950 plus taxes it comes out to 45 000 dollars for a EX-L navi 4WD there are other options at that price.

With respect to the price, if you use APAs buying service there is a possibility of getting it at invoice. That is how I have proceeded using APA and a fleet salesperson.

cul8rgator

Yesterday I test drove the Honda CRV LX, I loved I put a deposit with the dealer, this was thru internet services, after much research on Edmonds. This was my deal.

CRV LX 2WD
$22,800 OTD, TTL (inclusive)
Glasier Blue, Gray Inter.

They said about 2-3 weeks to deliver, rec'd call today, car on lot. Does this sound like a good deal, I am single mom of 2 young girls, and did the whole research, test-driving and all by myself. Need imput. What about an extended warranty, any advise, thru dealer or private. Thanks.

brianjandreau

Seems high to me. I got an EXL for 24600 (MSRP is 26500). Without looking to see what MSRP and invoice is on an LX, I'd guess a good offer would be around 20500 for an AWD and 19500 for FWD.

Problem is you've already made a deposit. If they hit your credit card with the charge, then you'll have a really tough time backing out and may lose the deposit. If they didn't hit your card with it, then you will be probably be okay (I would contact your card holder).

If you can back out, send an e-mail to as many dealers as you can in as large a range as you can.

I would strongly encourage you go to consumerreports.com and buy the car buying report on the CRV. It's well worth $14 because it gives you invoice as well as dealer holdback info, which is crucial to the negotiation process.

I started by offering $780 under invoice and ended up a couple of hundred over invoice. Some people on these posts did slightly better than me too. You said you did a lot of research, but it doesn't seem as though you've read through this forum. I would strongly encourage you to do that as well.

Good luck!

What part of the country are you in, because that matters apparently?

kiawah

Please break out how much the car was, and how much the Taxes, title, and licensing, and any other fees.

You are referencing an Out the door price including taxes, and we have no idea what those are in your area of the country. As a result, it's hard to compare to some other deals.

spike69

I am going to be buying a CRV LX AWD the end of this month. I called the internet sales person from a local dealership and was quoted 21,270. With TTL for my area that would come out to 22,461 OTD. Given that I was quoted less for an AWD then you are paying for a 2WD it doesn't look like a good deal. In reading this forum, supply and pricing look to be very different in different regions. Maybe that is a good deal for your area right now, but not for my area.

cul8rgator

Thanks for all you input.

CRV LX fwd
Taxes $1272.09
Tag $ 225.00
Dest & Handling $ 595.00
Dealer Fee $ 599.00

Less $ 495.54

Total $22,800.00

The Dealer is in Hollywood, Fla. (So. Fla.) Let me know what is a better price to pay. Thanks so much.

denascar

Long time reader, first time poster...
I keep reading how the CR-V's are less expensive in the south. Where? I live in north central Florida and have searched from Jacksonville, Lake City, Gainesville, Ocala and Crystal River. These dealers are sticking to their guns on the MSRP prices. Anyone have any suggestions on dealers in the 'south' that I may have missed that are willing to work with a single woman to get into a new CR-V?

stevedebi

"Out of curiousity, does anyone know if the 4wd is necessary if the driver has no intention of using the vehicle in off road conditions. Honda boasts that the VSA (skid control) maintains its stability. So then why would anyone need 4wd for normal driving conditions? Sounds silly but the added cost for 4wd is $1,200. All wasted if the feature isn't needed. I noticed that subaru offers both on most of its models but its seems like a redundant feature.

And by the way, if the 4wd doesn't do anything (or activate) in most driving conditions, why then does it impact the mpg? "

Last question first: It costs MPG because of the weight of the components and because the RT4WD will kick in at times (usually unnoticed by the driver). Plus, the vehicle has to spin the drivetrain components even when the rear wheels aren't engaged.

For the first question: The purpose of the 4WD is to get you moving, which stability control will not do. The casual user may have it kick in during very wet conditions, when the front wheels may slip on rapid acceleration. It is mostly a personal choice. I had RT4WD on my 2003 CR-V, but chose FWD on my current vehicle. I think it may also enhance resale value, and it doesn't have that big a penalty on MPG. I should also state here that I ended up using that RT4WD on poor country roads (clay), and I was very glad I had it. I also ran into some rainstorms in New Mexico, and I felt more secure with the RT4WD available.

FWIW, I think that all Subaru vehicles are full time four wheel drive (not part time, like the CR-V). This is the first I've heard of any FWD Subaru.

kiawah

So you are paying MSRP full list price then, correct?

$22,800, back out all the fees above, yields $20,604 for the vehicle.

National CRV-LX MSRP price is 20,600, with a dealer invoice price of 19,061 as reported by Edmunds.

Doesn't look like you are getting anything off at all. Reading the forums here, some people are having to pay full MSRP citing constrained supplies, others are getting discounts.

wavegrl

Hooray, evil "check engine light" is off, finally. Mechanic says overly sensitive sensor, engine is fine. He says we should sell it rather than trade it. Give dealer less to haggle about.
Thanks to all for your suggestions.

cul8rgator

That's what I thought two days ago, that msrp wasn't so bad with limited supplies. Well I am going to try and back out of the deposit (it is refundable) and re-negociate at invoice. Your input has been invaluable. I will let you know, probably Friday how it all goes. Thanks again.

kiawah

Well at least you got them to back off the outrageous doc fees! I think you recognize you're going after a newly announced vehicle, and the dealers will be trying to make top dollar from them (which you and I would do as well if we owned the dealership).

If you are in a hurt for a vehicle, and have your heart set on this, then do the best you can. If you can wait for 6-12 months or longer, do so.

I've driven the CRV, it's on my shortlist for my next purchase, don't need one right away....so I'm waiting.

isellhondas

Some people will wait a year, maybe save 500.00? During that time, they drive their old car, which depreciates and maybe incurs repair expense during that time.

What did these people really "save"?

spike69

isellhondas - You obviously can't do math. It would be $1500 minimum that someone paying msrp could save.

I am going to be using the www.fightingchance.com package to buy a car at the end of this month. I've already been quoted 21,270 for a LX AWD and expect I'll probably get one at less than 21,000 or right around invoice. I'll post my results when I have the car. Of course this method completely bypasses the isellhondas of the world.

guru_g

Hi All,

I got a quote for CRV EX 4wd for $23270 including destination. The taxes, title and documentation fee take the total to an OTD of $25000. Is this a good deal? If I order it now how long does it take to get to the dealer lot? I plan to keep this car for another 8-10 yrs. Is the extended warranty (8yr/120K) needed for this car? I have seen a price of around $900 for this warranty in this forum. Anyone know of a cheaper price for this?

Thanks for your input.

isellhondas

It's you who seems to be having trouble with the math.

There is only about a 1500.00 spread between invoice and MSRP on a CRV and you think you are going to get a dealer to do this on a hot selling car that isin short supply??

That dot com comapny you mentioned is one I've never heard of but they are a dime a dozen, here today, gone tomorrow. These guys bug me constantly to sign on with them.

And, guess what? you won't "bypass" anyone. You will still (gasp) have to visit a dealer and work through a (shudder) salesperson!

sky23213

Isell is a longtime and very respected member of the forums. Once in a while a newcomer will jump him because of a slight disagreement or just for the fact that he is a Honda salesman. Even though I also disagree sometimes (though we are on the same page on many issues), I carefully read and listen to what he has to say. If you go back and read some of the popular threads, you'll see that he's pretty straight forward. At the same time you see other salesmen starting out with a sales pitch and a bucket of ...
As far as the different tools sold on the Internet and Consumer Reports, I've come to the opinion that they are pretty much useless. Reading some of the popular sites to get an idea is more than enough. If after that one follows the threads here for about a month, as well as does their research, he'd have a much better idea what to do and how things are in reality for their particular situation.

spike69

If you go to
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/cardeals/honda.htm
You can see what a few people have been paying. They have paid $1200,
$1395, $1564, $1450, $1240, etc less than msrp. I will be buying the fighting chance package this weekend and tell everyone how it goes. I will be dealing with the fleet manager or sales manager by fax directly, so I won't (gasp) be dealing with a salesperson. The deal will be struck before I enter the showroom. It does say that you should only expect responses from half the dealers. That being said, I believe every dealer has the right to sell their cars for what they want.

hansmuff

Good luck on your journey. It's perfectly fine to try and get the car as cheap as possible, but the CR-V is in demand, so you'll have a hard time.
I agree with isellhondas, and he does math just fine because $500 over invoice is semi-realistic and a good model to work off of for a car in demand. Right now, $500 over invoice for this car is a good deal in my opinion. There's no need to be rude either, isellhondas has posted some really good insights that were helpful to me.

alamocity

I agree, much like the Civic was last year, the CRV is an in demand vehicle and prices are elevated. The Civic prices have come down quite a bit this year so I suspect prices next year on the CRV will follow suit.

isellhondas

Thank you for your kind words!

isellhondas

Well, you can see what other people say they have been paying. People like to brag sometimes.

You are "buying" this "package"? So, in essence, you are paying a broker to do what you could do yourself.

I hate to break this to you but the "fleet" or "sales" manager is simply a salesperson with a title.

You are correct in your final sentence. A dealer can sell their cars for whatever they want. Most just don't like selling 20 dollar bills for ten dollars.

I guess you could be in a cutthroat market where CRV's have to be given away.

Good Luck!

rpathak

Looking for prices /buying experiences in the Dallas/Ft Worth region for a Honda CR-V.

Appreciate feedback.

brianjandreau

I found Consumer Reports to be very helpful.

crvme3

Everyone, Let's touch on another aspect of all this... Car markets can change daily: supply & demand,geography,demographics, will have an affect... not everyone will get the same deals. All of us should do our homework, listen to those on this forum who do this for a living & take all info in stride to arrive at an informed decision. Know what we want & the prices we are willing to pay , once vehicle is selected make the best deal we can & be happy with our decisions/purchases. Life is to short to bicker... Thanks to all on this forum

beerlover

Does anyone know why there are approx 200 AWD EX in a 50 miles radius of philly but one about 12 2WD EX? I'm not really looking for AWD.

I can't see paying an extra $1200 and slightly worst mileage for 2-3 snow falls a year. Unless someone can convince me I need AWD for another reason.

isellhondas

When it does snow, you will be very glad you spent the extra money.

Also, when you go to sell it or trade it in later, you will quickly learn the 2WD CRV's are not very popular in your neck of the woods.

I would definatly go with the 4WD!

spike69

This reminds me of the game telephone because no where did isellhondas say that $500 over invoice is semi-realistic and a good model to work off of for a car in demand. If he would have said that I would have agreed. He said "Some people will wait a year, maybe save 500.00?" in response to the person asking if msrp was a good deal and a couple of responses saying it wasn't. I just think getting advice on buying a new car from a car salesman is like getting betting advice from a bookie.

cliffb

4WD in Northeast

Yesterday we had a major snowstorm in New England; I was able to navigate w/o problems with my '07 CRV 4WD.

beerlover

good points. thanks