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You say you have been offered 500.00 over invoice on an LX CRV? That isn't good enough?
I have no idea of market conditions in your area. Granted, LX CRV's aren't nearly as popular as EX's.
Go ahead, knock yourself out, pay a middleman and see what you can get!
"game telephone"? Sorry but you lost me!
In the meantime, I am selling my 04 Audi A4 1.8T convertible (15,700 miles) on my own instead of trading it in.....the dealers were not interested in it really which is ok too. Had it serviced, detailed and still another year on the warranty so i should sell it easy.....
I'm fine without a car too - we have a work truck we can use....but how long should I wait and I really hate to give that deposit to one dealership and hope he gets what I want. Seems like I am better off looking at them all - suggestions?
OH this is one quote I got but turned it down (in case this helps anyone)
Limited Time Offer:
2007 CR-V EX-L Leather 2WD (auto) = $24,800 (limited supply)
Destination Charge = 595
Processing = 487
Luggage Basket = 532
Running Boards = 590
Body Side Molding = 279
Door Visor = 238
Wheel Locks = 65
Fog Lights = 475
All Season Floor Mats = 153
Rear Armrest Tray = 121
Cargo Tray = 118
Auto Day Night Mirror = 419
Interior Trim Kit, wood look = 339
Tax = 7%
Title = 21
Grand Total = $31,276.77
THX
Your dealer can look at his in transit report and see what is in the pipeline. He should know when to expect delivery based on "build dates".
I wouldn't buy a 2WD unless you are in a southern climate.
No Honda comes with those items you listed. They are all dealer installed after the cars arrive.
spike69, i read through some of their sample materials including "the big picture for pontiac" and i have to say, i'm not impressed. according to that piece, people who used their package paid (i'm averaging here) about $300 to $400 dollars over invoice on cars they admitted were not "hot" and which had 75+ days of inventory. i dunno...i'd imagine people could do LOTS better on those cars. and, by all accounts, the '07 CR-V is indeed hot and, if honda averages a 30-day inventory for all cars, i'd imagine inventories for the CR-V are even less.
i see several problems with the those prices they're citing. for one, they seem to represent the exception rather than the norm. secondly, the prices cited for the CR-V are kind of dated, all going back to before the new year (december is a slowish month and there are year end and month end goals dealerships may have been trying to meet), and finally, you don't know what the "haggled" selling price included or what the other terms were. for example, maybe they haggled a great price on the CR-V but got royally screwed on their trade-in. or, perhaps, they got a great price on the CR-V but paid $800 in "doc" fees that other dealers charge $35 for. maybe they paid full price for the extended warranty and/or options or high-profit dealer items like paint protection, lo-jack, glass etching, etc.
still, i wish you luck.
TIA
edited to add: Is there any wiggle room in destination charges or processing charges?
Destination charges are fixed, we pay them and pass them on to you. Usually doc. fees are fixed. You can't charge one person one price and another person a different price. We charge 35.00. some of the fees I've seen in these forums are nuts!
WOW only $35!!!!! Here I have been quoted $487! It is insane! I guess if ppl are willing to pay it then they charge it.
Looks like I will have to go out of pocket a little bit then. I was hoping to sell my car for the same as I could get this one.
Thank you.
my local honda dealership lists the price of parts and the price installed. although this doesn't apply to you since you're in ATL, this will still give you a pretty good idea of what things should cost installed: http://www.carmichaelhondastore.com/store/crv07.html.
(this is the brick & mortar parts department; they also have an online store at http://www.handaaccessories.com)
Thank you!
In Atlanta it is just under $500.
isellhondas said theirs is $35.
Seems dealerships charge a wide range for this fee.
Looking forward to feedback from others.
Lynnie
this is why i'm leery of reading about some of the prices paid...what if someone reports that they paid $200 under invoice for their CR-V but also paid $800 in doc fees?
Unless I can get a killer deal on something new that's not a base model, I don't really want to go over $18K and would prefer to stay in the $15K-$17K range.
The top CR-V on my list to drive tomorrow are a 2005 SE with 29K miles listed at about $18.8K and pretty much loaded. At first glance this seems like a great deal, but is there something in particular I should watch for? And, it's not at a Honda dealer, so it won't be "certified."
Thanks!
You would hope that if someone was a good enough negotiator to get a vehicle for $200 under invoice (selling price) they wouldn't pay $800 in fees.
Here the law mandates how much dealers can charge for DOC fees. It doesn't mean it's mandatory but you can't pay more than X. The fee went up on Jan.1, to (I think) a little over $70 (for the original poster).
In southeastern Massachusetts we were quoted $310 for title/registration and doc fees(15 for reg, 50 for title, 5 for title prep and 244 for "doc prep"). In RI it's 95 for doc prep and then extra for registration, etc. when I go to the Mass DMV.
Here is my deal for a White 2007 CR-V 2wd with Navigation at Saccucci Honda in RI
Sticker Price: $27,395
Invoice Price: $25,375
Sale Price: $25895 + $493 (Fog Lights) = $26,388
Documentary Preparation Fee: $75
Title Preparation Fee: $20
RI sales Tax 7%: $1,847.16
New Registration Fees: $114.00
Grand Total of $28,444.16
I plan on buying Front Mud Flaps ($36.27), All-seasons mats(97.11), Cargo mat($73.71) and front
Front Hood Deflector($104.13) With shipping cost of $30.53 from www.bernardiparts.com where accessories are alot cheaper than the Dealer. Bernardi also gives you a PDF file with instruction on how to install every accessory.
Good Luck on your buying.
And from a Japanese car company no less, how bizarre
Good Luck
MNF
This is the deal I got on my 2007 CRV LX 2WD:
selling price $20596.39
destination $ 599.95
Fla. Battery Fee $ 6.50
Tax 6% $ 1272.17
MVWEA $ 2.00
Tag & Title $ 123.00
Total OTD $22600.00
Plus a 2 night/3 day cruise to the Bahamas for 4.
I know this is not the greatest deal certainly no where near invoice, but I do not feel I got hosed. I am going to sell my vehicle online any suggestions. Also need info regarding extended warranty.
I did originally put down a deposit because the car was due in 2-3 weeks, it came in the next morning. After my post and replys, I got my original deposit back and talked with other dealers. I tried negociations with 6 other dealers in 3 other counties no one was giving below msrp and all had ther doc fees. Noone had the CRV I wanted on the lot, although I was flexible on color.
I think maybe in a couple of months the prices could be more neg. but my current vehicle is old and unreliable and sure to be another $1000.00 repair the next time.
I regretted that I put a deposit down, and I would not do that again in the future even though I clearly specified is was a refundable deposit.
Throught out the entire negociation, my internet salesman was polite & professional. This forum was invaluable to me, although I was alone in the dealership I knew all of you here were there with me in encouragement. Thanks so much.
Bought a car over the phone from Boch Honda, Norwood, MA last weekend. Spoke with 3 dealerships - and Boch was definitely the one that started out with a good price and negotiated without any bullsh*t. I worked with the Manager of the Internet Sales dept.
This is my second time buying a car over the phone and it has worked well for us. You need to know exactly what you want including all accessories. I inform them that I have done research and know what people are paying for the cars. I never tell them the price I want... I tell them that the first quote they give me will show me how serious they are about selling the car to me. Once I get a few quotes - I usually have a feel for who I want to nail down a final price with. Some of the Internet Sales dept try to convince you to come to the dealership or have no power to really negotiate.
CRV EX-L AWD no navigation
Accessories (including installation)
roof rack, All season floor mats, cargo tray, cargo cover, auto d/n mirror.
Boch Honda first quote (over phone)
first quote: $26,965 breakdown as follows
Base: $25,268.00
access: $1395
Doc fee: $298
Bernardi Honda, Natick (over phone)
first quote: $27,655
base: $25,895
accessories $1465.
doc fee: $294.75
Herb Chambers, Burlington MA (over phone):
Quote: $27,876
base: $26,595.00 (would not negotiate)
accessories: $1083.
doc fee: 198
Bernardi second final quote once they knew I had a better offer: $26,800
Boch final quote and what we paid for the car:
$26,176 (includes, base, accessories and doc fee)
The car was on the lot (glacier blue), got a VIN # and an email confirming price and accessories installed. No issues when we went to the dealership. Test drove the actual car. The rest of the process went smoothly. I hope this info helps.
1. The base price included the destination charge.
2. The only charges on top of the prices I provided were 5% sales tax and License/Registration fees.
yep - the remaining factory warranty is on it and it's the SE model with a few extras, even. i checked the KBB value and it's $24K. boyfriend is coming with me for a second drive, but i think i'll probably take the plunge. only question now is whether to get an additional warranty.
Philly area - 07 EX CRV with msrp $24,645 (with dest charge)
got $24,145 (including dest charge) and no lower. I will buying when they are will to knock another grand off or at least another $500.
Debating the costco route. Anybody know what they are getting them for?
I purchased my CR-V EX-L 4WD (without Navigation) for $24,900 + $119 (doc. Fee) from David Hobbs Honda in Milwaukee, WI. I would highly recommend this dealership. I had to wait for about six weeks for my vehicle to arrive after paying a $500 deposit. They kept me informed of the vehicle’s status during this time and delivered as promised.
In contrast, I had a very poor experience at Russ Darrow Honda, also in Milwaukee. They quoted a price of $25,042 + $129 (service fee) in December. I called them up to confirm the price and the date I would go from Madison, WI, to get the vehicle. When I reached the dealership on the appointed day, they showed me the vehicle but said the original quote is no longer valid and they can only sell it at a price $500 higher than the original quote. I simply walked out and nobody made any effort to negotiate any further. I am glad that I did not have to buy it from that dishonest dealer and also saved a little money in the process.
MNF
https://www.myhondawarranty.com/plans.php?action=step2&makeID=1&modelID=10&year=- 2005&mileage=30000&stateID=5&plan_typeID=2&service=yes&commercial=no&Submit=Subm- it
Just curious; what accessories did you get? Pretty big difference among dealers in those prices, too.
How much luck do people have with using honda.com's "build and price" and then requesting a quote via the website?
I've read a lot about internet/fleet/house sales and the fax/email/phone approaches and am wondering if these have any advantage over simply picking what I want from the honda website and hitting the button to get quotes.
Thanks for sharing your experience and advice.
(btw, don't you love the way the original warranty time/mileage is inside that 60 months and 80k miles?)
also:
what exactly is involved in the paperwork that the dealer calls "documentary fees?" I'm looking at $285 on that if I do the deal. Haven't started negotiating it.
CRV EX-L AWD no navigation
Accessories (including installation)
roof rack, All season floor mats, cargo tray, cargo cover, auto d/n mirror.
A self can cost this kind of money??
Just the EX's.
Thanks!
My sister in law and wife are both getting 07 CR-V's AWD EX-L with Navi. Because we are buying 2 I was able to get $1,000 off msrp for both, and that was by going through the internet departments of 2 dealers (Ken Garff and Willey Honda) that beat each other's offers until we bottomed out at the $1000 off. TMV in my area is just $200 off msrp.
I knew that $1000 off msrp is good for the way these cars are selling but I still went into Ken Garff and tried to get an even better deal from the salesperson. The only thing he would do is match Willey's doc fee that is $100 cheaper. He seemed annoyed that he was mathcing the other dealer's offer and let us walk without really trying to get the sale, which told me we really did have a good deal. Although for the work of 1 sale he was moving 2 cars, so I was surprised he didn't try harder to make the sale. He probably knows he can sell them for more, but still.
So I confidently went to Willey Honda and had a much more pleasant experience. But as we were signing the hold orders (both cars are just coming off the production line in Japan, e.g. 3 week wait)the salesperson confided that their average discount for shoppers is $500 - $550 off msrp, and that through Costco you only get $300 off. He said that for the CR-V it was not a good idea to go through Costco - this may be different for other cars, I don't know. My advice is before you go through Costco see what sort of a deal you can get through the internet dept. of your dealer. A lot of the time the internet sales people are allowed to make deals that show room salespeople can't.
I haven't decided on accessories yet if any, but here are the numbers for each car as they stand until the cars come in:
MSRP + Dest. fee: $28,595
Discount: -$ 1,000
Taxes @ 6.5%: $ 1,793
Doc fee: $ 199
Title, Reg: $ 197
My Price: $29,784
Now my questions is: Do I have any chance at getting any deal on accessories or working any better deal now that I've ordered the cars? And did I get as good a deal as I think I did?
I am actually in the Northwest suburbs of Chicago, not the city. Anyway, I have narrowed down my vehicle search to a glacier blue metallic CR-V EX-L (with navi). I was told the best way to buy a car is to find out the invoice, add on a fair profit for the dealer and then try and find a dealer who will match that price.
I am trying to find the invoice on this vehicle but so far have only found the price of $25,800. I know the MSRP 9with destination) is around $28,000. Does anyone have another invoice price? What is a “fair” profit to offer the dealer? Also, is there a “good” time to buy a car? I was told the end of March is a good time. Thanks in advance for any help!!
Chris
at this point, i may be going with an '06 LX with 19K miles that the dealer will install a moonroof into for me. under 20K, all said and done.
i hate car shopping. it's been dragging on and i'm almost in tears.
Thanks!
Do you think it is likely that Honda will make changes to the CRV, for example offering more interior/exterior color combinations (e.g. currently the choice of exterior colors is very limited if you want ivory interior).
Thanks
Since the CRV is a new model this year, I would expect few if any changes. They might dump a slow selling color and add another. As far as I'm concerned they could dump that ivory interior all together although I'm sure it sells better in hot climates.