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But, you know, none of that really matters. Car sell for what the market dictates and what a dealer happens to have paid for the car doesn't matter.
And, sure, shop around. That way you WILL find out what market values are.
MNF
Maybe that's why we blow their sales away every year.
I'm afraid that is a perception.
MNF
import cars from Japan and export the ones that are made here? sounds like a deal was struck to show that the US is still exporting something. Or, maybe the locations that we export to, have better trade agreements with US.
regards, j
I think they are either taking their time getting up to capacity, or capacity is constrained by demand for other vehicles made at the same facility.. (Civic, Accord, Acura TL).
Honda has broken ground on a plant in Greensburg, Indiana, which is slated to assemble Civics.. I think starting in Fall of '08.. Hopefully, if supply hasn't increased before then, that will take some pressure off of East Liberty.
regards,
kyfdx
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It is possible that the East Liberty plant won't make enough vehicles to satisfy both Canada and the USA..
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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/23/honda-sends-some-cr-v-production-south-of-the- -border/
What I HAVE seen are unhappy people who drove six hours both ways and came back empty handed. Either the price changed, they no longer had the car or they lowballed the trade-in.
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Thanks.. Go Mariners.... MNF
The consumer books are a average of wholesale prices for late model cars. This average gets VERY rough with older cars. Also check my message 14394 in the Accord Prices paid section. You need to check out the resources to learn how to buy a car. When you do, see if you can work a $1000 off or so deal on your crv last week of the month. Lots of folks were thrilled with $2500 off list for the 06 clearout last summer. This is a better CRV. (except I think they dropped the Picnic table)
Happy Huntin
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Well, that explains it.
1. It's a Dodge Dakota
2. It has 122,000 miles on it.
That truck is pretty much saleproof and seriously "back of book".
It's not the demand for the CRV that is the problem. It's your truck.
They will pit me against their local dealers. Usually the local guy caves in and comes close enough to my price to make the deal.
I did have a lady drive from the tri-cities to save a lousy 100.00 one time. Some people are amazing.
Also those "pass throughs" also known as "in and outs" are borderline fraud. We won't do them.
anyway around this?
If you think you received a good deal could you let me know your terms. I'll use these as a starting point with my dealer.
I'm looking for zero down. I've already have quotes on price (24,185).
Thanks!
It seems this dealership was loath to make any type of deal where they couldn't sell you some type of accessory package. Even in the back of the house. They talked me into getting a couple of their warranty and insurance products in exchange for buying down the rate from 8.2% to 6.1%.
I don't think it was the best deal I could've made, but I'm still happy with the car.
And in the finality, that's what it's all about.
Does anyone have any helpful tips for us? Around what price range should we start OUR negotiations from? We don't really care about tons of bells and whistles, although we would like to upgrade to alloy wheels (can they just upgrade the wheels, or does it have to be a whole package?)
We'll be buying in either Columbus, OH or Toledo, OH... has anyone had a buying experience around those areas?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
First of all, the best price was not our main concern. I wanted to get the best price from our local dealer. They have a great reputation and great service. For example, we have lifetime free state inspections, free first maintenance and they will come to my place of work and pick the car up and drop it off 4 times. They will shuttle me or my wife always.
With that said, this a.m. I emailed a bunch of dealers to get a quote. The first quote was 21,265 at 7.2%. I took that quote and gave it to my local dealer but indicated that it was at 5.99%. An hour later he called back and said 21,465 @ 5.99. I responded with 21,365 plus the mats @5.99. Three hours later he called back and said we had a deal.
The lowest quote we got was $20,995, but the dealer was 200 miles a way and I did not bother to ask the finance rate. At this point, it was not worth $500 (assuming they would do 5.99, which I figured they would not at that price) to spend an entire saturday driving 500 miles to get a car.
So my advice, is to get a quote from a bunch of dealers for sale price and finance rate. Then use those quotes to get a deal at a dealer you like the most and hear good things about.
The crazy thing about our deal is that they have to locate the car. I thought the guy would laugh at me when I asked for 21,265, but he did not. I think $1,000 of MSRP for one of these is great. Especially for an LX, which no dealer seems to have many of.
I stopped by one of my local dealers this Sunday (Capitol Honda in San Jose) and noticed that they had 16 CRVs on the lot. I remember visiting that dealer back in December...they had exactly one CRV back then. Also, two weeks ago I visited Autowest in Fremont and noticed about 20 CRVs sitting on their lot.
Isellhonda, can you confirm that the inventory situation is getting much better now?
These usually get sold before they arrive.
LX's are pretty slim compared to the EX cloths but they don't sell nearly as well so this isn't a big problem.
The dealers in Maryland were the greatest to deal with. On the top of the list was Heritage Honda of Westminster
Their internet team was great and they stuck to the price quoted.
I wonder if they would sell some of those to us for that price?
I am new to MD and want to get a CRV soon. I went to College Park Honda in early March, and they wouldn't go any lower than $500 below MSRP for a CRV-FWD-EX with no extra options. Any suggestions for good dealers in MD? Also, are the FWD - EX's in higher demand than normal?
Thanks.
What exactly am i supposed to be asking for, and do i mention the maximum price i am willing to pay for a trim level?
I realize that demand can vary greatly in different parts of our country. I try to remember that.
However, buying a NAVI CRV at invoice makes absoultly no sense whatever to me given the supply/demand situation HERE where I am. They may be distressed merchandise elsewhere.
Try to understand, if you can, that I have to deal with customers who "read on the internet" that people are buying navi Crv's for invoice. I am very nice to these people but I gently let them know we can't do that.
And, this is NOT a "pseudo-supply" situation HERE and prices are far from "inflated".
I just don't understand, that's all.
My suggestion, for Maryland (and this could apply for states where there are many dealers to choose from) is to determine how far out (25-50-100 miles radius) you are willing to drive to save at least 1000 dollars and then go to cars.com. The further away you go there is a potential of gettting and invoice deal or you may get lucky with a local dealer. They allow sending out request for quotes to 3 dealers at a time. Do that for the radius you are willing to go specifying your exact trim and inside and outside color. Also, if you want you can mention your target price which should be anywhere between invoice and invoice plus 500 dollars. The more specific you are the better. Ask for an OTD price including all fees excluding sales tax only. What do you have to lose ? Maybe someone has a FWD EX that nobody wants in snowbelt country NY ? You will probably get replys from about half, a quarter of those replys will be competitive and then you let those dealers compete for your business. It helps when the SUV is in their stock and it is the end of the month, so you will be more succesful around the 20 of the month.
In MD I found Heritage Honda of Westminster the best with Heritage Honda of Parkville a good second.
Norris Auto Group, Sport Honda add accessories to their CR-Vs which overinflate the price. Hint: If you are minimally good at screwing in a light bulb, always buy a CR-V with no accessories on it and buy the accessories from on-line Honda shops such as Bernardiparts.com, handaaccessories.com, collegehillshonda.com and there are others !
Good luck !
We are the largest volume Honda dealer in nine states and we currently have **one** Navi in stock.
I guess I’m in the minority, but I can understand isellhondas’ basic points. Is any retailer expected to make only a few hundred dollars on a $25-30K item? Just doesn’t seem logical to me. Do you know what the retailer’s profit was on the last TV or pair of shoes you bought? And if you did, would it stop you from buying? Because a dealer chooses not to sell you a vehicle at your price (whether they have one or a hundred on the lot) doesn’t mean they are dishonest.
I love the car and just attended a “new-owner seminar” at the dealer. It was informative and they did not attempt to sell a single accessory or service.
No, I don’t sell cars and don’t know anyone that does. I’m just a satisfied customer.