2015 Audi S4 Lease Questions

516teddy

So what are the money factors and residuals I should be asking for? Both 36 month 12 and 15k a year. And Audi care bumps the residual by 1% am I correct ? 

Michaell

516teddy said:

So what are the money factors and residuals I should be asking for? Both 36 month 12 and 15k a year. And Audi care bumps the residual by 1% am I correct ? 

S4 Premium Plus 36/15 numbers are .00061 and 53%. Add 1% for AudiCare.

csmith17

Great forum! I am looking at an 2015 S4 P+ manual 36/15k. What is the MF and residual for this currently? I see the numbers previously posted, but didn't know if the "manual" configuration would have an impact.

electrofreak

csmith17 said:

Great forum! I am looking at an 2015 S4 P+ manual 36/15k. What is the MF and residual for this currently? I see the numbers previously posted, but didn't know if the "manual" configuration would have an impact.

Should follow my quote from above: .00061 and 53%. I don't think the transmission affects the residual.

csmith17

Thanks! My monthly lease payment calc is $713.32 based on MSRP 55,400; Base Selling Price 51,978; Cap Red $1k (conquest incentive); Cap Inc $1,368 (includes AudiCare $895); Residual value $29,916 (53+1 for AudiCare) and sales tax rate 6.25%. I believe these numbers are correct. If you have a moment can you verify?

s4ken

Thoughts on the deal below?

2015 S4 S tronic Premium Plus 36/mo 7.5k mi/yr
Monsoon Gray

Sports Differential
Adaptive damping suspension

Tech Package
Black Optic Package
Fine Nappa Leather package
B&O Sound
Carbon Atlas Inlays
Audi Guard kit
Audi Guard wheel locks
Supercharged badges

Audi Care ($829)

MSRP: 60,720
Agreed Selling: 54,418.17
Drive off: $1250
Incentive: $1000

9% tax rate, rolled in

Cap Cost reduction (?): $926.72
Adj Cap Cost: $55015.45

$659.43/mo

Thank in advance!

Michaell

csmith17 said:

Thanks! My monthly lease payment calc is $713.32 based on MSRP 55,400; Base Selling Price 51,978; Cap Red $1k (conquest incentive); Cap Inc $1,368 (includes AudiCare $895); Residual value $29,916 (53+1 for AudiCare) and sales tax rate 6.25%. I believe these numbers are correct. If you have a moment can you verify?

Using your MSRP and selling price, I get a payment of $611.19/mo with tax.

Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is after all the adjustments - there might be a hidden fee or two in there somewhere.

Michaell

Michaell said:

csmith17 said:

Thanks! My monthly lease payment calc is $713.32 based on MSRP 55,400; Base Selling Price 51,978; Cap Red $1k (conquest incentive); Cap Inc $1,368 (includes AudiCare $895); Residual value $29,916 (53+1 for AudiCare) and sales tax rate 6.25%. I believe these numbers are correct. If you have a moment can you verify?

Using your MSRP and selling price, I get a payment of $611.19/mo with tax.

Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is after all the adjustments - there might be a hidden fee or two in there somewhere.

EDIT - sorry, I was using a 42 month term. If I change to 36 months, the payment goes to $720.78 with tax.

Michaell

s4ken said:

Thoughts on the deal below?

2015 S4 S tronic Premium Plus 36/mo 7.5k mi/yr
Monsoon Gray

Sports Differential
Adaptive damping suspension

Tech Package
Black Optic Package
Fine Nappa Leather package
B&O Sound
Carbon Atlas Inlays
Audi Guard kit
Audi Guard wheel locks
Supercharged badges

Audi Care ($829)

MSRP: 60,720
Agreed Selling: 54,418.17
Drive off: $1250
Incentive: $1000

9% tax rate, rolled in

Cap Cost reduction (?): $926.72
Adj Cap Cost: $55015.45

$659.43/mo

Thank in advance!

I get $677.40/mo with tax and $0 cap cost reduction; the $927 you show reduces your pre-tax payment about $26/mo.

s4ken

The AudiCare was rolled into the payments.  Finance guy said its costing me $8 (or 9, can't recall exactly)/mo.

Does that make the payments line up, or did you already account for that?

I *think* I got a great deal, but I'm not really sure.  The numbers above were taken from my lease agreement.

Michaell

s4ken said:

The AudiCare was rolled into the payments.  Finance guy said its costing me $8 (or 9, can't recall exactly)/mo.

Does that make the payments line up, or did you already account for that?

I *think* I got a great deal, but I'm not really sure.  The numbers above were taken from my lease agreement.

Sorry, I didn't adjust the residual to account for the AudiCare increase, but $8/9 per month sounds about right - 1% of $60K is $600, and 57% of that is $342, so about $9.50/mo for 36 months.

s4ken

Thanks!  All in all, would you say a great deal, decent deal, or ooopsie deal?  ;-)

Michaell

s4ken said:

Thanks!  All in all, would you say a great deal, decent deal, or ooopsie deal?  ;-)

If you're comfortable with the selling price ... that's the biggest element of the deal.

s4ken

I don't think I could have done better, so that works.

regionalkool

If I am looking to lease a 2015 S4 Prestige Norgaro Audi Exclusive edition with an MSRP of $67,370 and I got it for $500 over dealer invoice what should the MF and residual with Audi care be?

kyfdx

regionalkool said:

If I am looking to lease a 2015 S4 Prestige Norgaro Audi Exclusive edition with an MSRP of $67,370 and I got it for $500 over dealer invoice what should the MF and residual with Audi care be?

.00061 MF and 50% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr. Add 1% for AudiCare

regionalkool

Does the Audi exclusive edition make the residual lower? What if it was just a 2015 s4 premium plus

Michaell

regionalkool said:

Does the Audi exclusive edition make the residual lower? What if it was just a 2015 s4 premium plus

Add 3% to the residual for the Prem + trim.

kyfdx

regionalkool said:

Does the Audi exclusive edition make the residual lower? What if it was just a 2015 s4 premium plus

It's the Prestige trim that makes it lower... Not sure if the exclusive edition has different numbers (but, that's doubtful).

vda2006

Any change for the June numbers?

Michaell

vda2006 said:

Any change for the June numbers?

Current Audi numbers are valid until 7/1/15 ... unless Audi changes them before that time.

eman1977

Hi...I was hoping you could check my inputs and math. I'm looking at the following for a 2015 Premium + S4 with Auto Trans for 36Mo / 7.5K mi per year:

MSRP: 59,115
Sales Price: 57,200 (I think I can do a little better, but this is the first offer I've gotten so far from dealer)
Incentives: 2,250 (I was told this included Audi Summer Event and Customer Loyalty incentives)
Net Cap Cost: 54,950
Residual (@ 57%): 33,696 (per this forum and quoted by dealer)
Money Factor: 0.00061 (per this forum I think this is correct. Note the dealer quoted me 0.0015...more on that later)
Tax Rate (Seattle, WA): 9.8%
My Calculation = 708 per month with 0 down (I think this should be around $2,000 out of pocket up front for license, doc fee, acq fee and 1st mo payment)

Dealer gave me a quote of 2,000 out of pocket up front and 806 a month. If I use the .0015 MF, I get 795 per month (i.e within $11 per month of the quote).

It seems like the dealer is really trying to profit off me on the MF. I've bought a couple Audi's from this salesperson before and gotten fair deals. Should I hold this against the salesperson or the finance person? Thoughts?

Michaell

eman1977 said:

Hi...I was hoping you could check my inputs and math. I'm looking at the following for a 2015 Premium + S4 with Auto Trans for 36Mo / 7.5K mi per year:

MSRP: 59,115
Sales Price: 57,200 (I think I can do a little better, but this is the first offer I've gotten so far from dealer)
Incentives: 2,250 (I was told this included Audi Summer Event and Customer Loyalty incentives)
Net Cap Cost: 54,950
Residual (@ 57%): 33,696 (per this forum and quoted by dealer)
Money Factor: 0.00061 (per this forum I think this is correct. Note the dealer quoted me 0.0015...more on that later)
Tax Rate (Seattle, WA): 9.8%
My Calculation = 708 per month with 0 down (I think this should be around $2,000 out of pocket up front for license, doc fee, acq fee and 1st mo payment)

Dealer gave me a quote of 2,000 out of pocket up front and 806 a month. If I use the .0015 MF, I get 795 per month (i.e within $11 per month of the quote).

It seems like the dealer is really trying to profit off me on the MF. I've bought a couple Audi's from this salesperson before and gotten fair deals. Should I hold this against the salesperson or the finance person? Thoughts?

I confirm the .00061 MF and 57% residual for the S4 Prem Plus.

I'm getting the $708/mo number as well.

Yes, dealer is marking up the MF on you. Politely but firmly explain that you won't sign a deal unless the base MF is used.

eman1977

Michael...thanks for the response...very helpful advice. It turns out I can't get the color I want, so I'm likely going to need wait for a 2016 (although the dealer has agreed to lease at the base rates). Any idea on timing of the 2016's (both when the cars will begin arriving at dealers and when the lease rates will be published)?

kyfdx

eman1977 said:

Michael...thanks for the response...very helpful advice. It turns out I can't get the color I want, so I'm likely going to need wait for a 2016 (although the dealer has agreed to lease at the base rates). Any idea on timing of the 2016's (both when the cars will begin arriving at dealers and when the lease rates will be published)?

Sorry, no insight on when the new models are coming.

mikeb690

What are the numbers for the premium plus? MF/RV for a 2015 S4 Premium Plus ? 36/12 and 36/15

Michaell

mikeb690 said:

What are the numbers for the premium plus? MF/RV for a 2015 S4 Premium Plus ? 36/12 and 36/15

.00061 and 53% for 36/15; add 2% for 12K

electrofreak

OK, I'm working on closing my deal today. I'm getting $54,585, which is about $1700 over invoice. I was just discussing I'll be putting down MSD, and was informed that there is a cap that the MF cannot go below .00050, is this true?

I'm currently arguing, and trying to get my "base MF" to .00061, as has been quoted here many times for the Audi Premium Plus S4 currently. With 2 MSD, that'll come down to .00051. Can I really not put any more down to get the MF down lower? I was hoping to put down 5, for MF of .00036 before talking with my dealer. He says audi will not close the deal with the MF below .0005.

Or maybe he was saying .00005. I'm trying to collect my numbers before I call him back, and looking for some confirmation either way.

Michaell

electrofreak said:

OK, I'm working on closing my deal today. I'm getting $54,585, which is about $1700 over invoice. I was just discussing I'll be putting down MSD, and was informed that there is a cap that the MF cannot go below .00050, is this true?

I'm currently arguing, and trying to get my "base MF" to .00061, as has been quoted here many times for the Audi Premium Plus S4 currently. With 2 MSD, that'll come down to .00051. Can I really not put any more down to get the MF down lower? I was hoping to put down 5, for MF of .00036 before talking with my dealer. He says audi will not close the deal with the MF below .0005.

Or maybe he was saying .00005. I'm trying to collect my numbers before I call him back, and looking for some confirmation either way.

The minimum MF for Audi leases is indeed .00005 (4 zeros). If the base MF is .00061, you can put down the maximum of 9 MSDs, each of which lower the MF by .00005, for a net MF of .00016.

Shouldn't be a problem.

electrofreak

Michaell said:

The minimum MF for Audi leases is indeed .00005 (4 zeros). If the base MF is .00061, you can put down the maximum of 9 MSDs, each of which lower the MF by .00005, for a net MF of .00016.

Shouldn't be a problem.

OK, Thank you. I must have heard him wrong. I'll confirm and continue with my plan. Thank you!

abrenbren89

Do you have the numbers for...

AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

Thank you

Michaell

abrenbren89 said:

Do you have the numbers for...

AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

Thank you

What trim level? What lease term? How many miles per year?

abrenbren89

Michaell said:

abrenbren89 said:

Do you have the numbers for...

AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

Thank you

What trim level? What lease term? How many miles per year?

Premium Plus...36 months/12K miles

Michaell

abrenbren89 said:

Michaell said:

abrenbren89 said:

Do you have the numbers for...

AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

Thank you

What trim level? What lease term? How many miles per year?

Premium Plus...36 months/12K miles

.00042 and 54%

gregw5

Anyone have lease numbers for September - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
36mos / 10k miles

Michaell

gregw5 said:

Anyone have lease numbers for September - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
36mos / 10k miles

Current Audi numbers are good until 10/1. Might get replaced with new numbers, but we don't know that yet.

mbc320_sport

Hi
Do you have lease numbers for Nov and Dec - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
36mos / 10k miles and 15k miles.

Some dealership offer 10k discount on a Prestige Model.

Thanks
Kevin

Michaell

mbc320_sport said:

Hi
Do you have lease numbers for Nov and Dec - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
36mos / 10k miles and 15k miles.

Some dealership offer 10k discount on a Prestige Model.

Thanks
Kevin

36/15 numbers
.00173 and 51% (P+) or 48% (Prestige)

lanameras

Can someone post lease figures for either model at 36/10 in NYC?

Michaell

lanameras said:

Can someone post lease figures for either model at 36/10 in NYC?

36/10 numbers
.00173 and 54% (P+) or 51% (Prestige)

akestler

Can you please provide residual and MF for a 2015 lease for 36 or 48 month lease terms with 12,000 miles / year?

Thanks in advance.

kyfdx

akestler said:

Can you please provide residual and MF for a 2015 lease for 36 or 48 month lease terms with 12,000 miles / year?

Thanks in advance.

.00173 MF and 53% residual for 36/12
.00193 MF and 46% residual for 48/12

akestler

Thanks. Add 1% for Audi care?

Michaell

akestler said:

Thanks. Add 1% for Audi care?

Yes.

yenolam

Looking for current MF and RV on leftover 2015 S4 premium plus. Thanks

kyfdx

yenolam said:

Looking for current MF and RV on leftover 2015 S4 premium plus. Thanks

Don't show any lease programs for the 2015 S4

poops

My local Audi dealer has a 2015 Premium Plus S4 in available. Are there any attractive lease programs/incentives available for the '15 model?

Michaell

poops said:

My local Audi dealer has a 2015 Premium Plus S4 in available. Are there any attractive lease programs/incentives available for the '15 model?

We have no lease numbers on the 2015 S4, sorry.

My guess the lease numbers are so poor as to offset any increase in the discount you could negotiate.