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2015 Audi S4 Lease Questions

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  • 516teddy516teddy Long IslandPosts: 8
    So what are the money factors and residuals I should be asking for? Both 36 month 12 and 15k a year. And Audi care bumps the residual by 1% am I correct ? 
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    516teddy said:

    So what are the money factors and residuals I should be asking for? Both 36 month 12 and 15k a year. And Audi care bumps the residual by 1% am I correct ? 

    S4 Premium Plus 36/15 numbers are .00061 and 53%. Add 1% for AudiCare.

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  • csmith17csmith17 Posts: 11
    Great forum! I am looking at an 2015 S4 P+ manual 36/15k. What is the MF and residual for this currently? I see the numbers previously posted, but didn't know if the "manual" configuration would have an impact.
  • csmith17 said:

    Great forum! I am looking at an 2015 S4 P+ manual 36/15k. What is the MF and residual for this currently? I see the numbers previously posted, but didn't know if the "manual" configuration would have an impact.

    Should follow my quote from above: .00061 and 53%. I don't think the transmission affects the residual.
  • csmith17csmith17 Posts: 11
    Thanks! My monthly lease payment calc is $713.32 based on MSRP 55,400; Base Selling Price 51,978; Cap Red $1k (conquest incentive); Cap Inc $1,368 (includes AudiCare $895); Residual value $29,916 (53+1 for AudiCare) and sales tax rate 6.25%. I believe these numbers are correct. If you have a moment can you verify?
  • s4kens4ken Posts: 9
    Thoughts on the deal below?

    2015 S4 S tronic Premium Plus 36/mo 7.5k mi/yr
    Monsoon Gray

    Sports Differential
    Adaptive damping suspension

    Tech Package
    Black Optic Package
    Fine Nappa Leather package
    B&O Sound
    Carbon Atlas Inlays
    Audi Guard kit
    Audi Guard wheel locks
    Supercharged badges

    Audi Care ($829)

    MSRP: 60,720
    Agreed Selling: 54,418.17
    Drive off: $1250
    Incentive: $1000

    9% tax rate, rolled in

    Cap Cost reduction (?): $926.72
    Adj Cap Cost: $55015.45

    $659.43/mo

    Thank in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    csmith17 said:

    Thanks! My monthly lease payment calc is $713.32 based on MSRP 55,400; Base Selling Price 51,978; Cap Red $1k (conquest incentive); Cap Inc $1,368 (includes AudiCare $895); Residual value $29,916 (53+1 for AudiCare) and sales tax rate 6.25%. I believe these numbers are correct. If you have a moment can you verify?

    Using your MSRP and selling price, I get a payment of $611.19/mo with tax.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is after all the adjustments - there might be a hidden fee or two in there somewhere.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    Michaell said:

    csmith17 said:

    Thanks! My monthly lease payment calc is $713.32 based on MSRP 55,400; Base Selling Price 51,978; Cap Red $1k (conquest incentive); Cap Inc $1,368 (includes AudiCare $895); Residual value $29,916 (53+1 for AudiCare) and sales tax rate 6.25%. I believe these numbers are correct. If you have a moment can you verify?

    Using your MSRP and selling price, I get a payment of $611.19/mo with tax.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is after all the adjustments - there might be a hidden fee or two in there somewhere.
    EDIT - sorry, I was using a 42 month term. If I change to 36 months, the payment goes to $720.78 with tax.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    s4ken said:

    Thoughts on the deal below?

    2015 S4 S tronic Premium Plus 36/mo 7.5k mi/yr
    Monsoon Gray

    Sports Differential
    Adaptive damping suspension

    Tech Package
    Black Optic Package
    Fine Nappa Leather package
    B&O Sound
    Carbon Atlas Inlays
    Audi Guard kit
    Audi Guard wheel locks
    Supercharged badges

    Audi Care ($829)

    MSRP: 60,720
    Agreed Selling: 54,418.17
    Drive off: $1250
    Incentive: $1000

    9% tax rate, rolled in

    Cap Cost reduction (?): $926.72
    Adj Cap Cost: $55015.45

    $659.43/mo

    Thank in advance!

    I get $677.40/mo with tax and $0 cap cost reduction; the $927 you show reduces your pre-tax payment about $26/mo.

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  • s4kens4ken Posts: 9
    The AudiCare was rolled into the payments.  Finance guy said its costing me $8 (or 9, can't recall exactly)/mo.

    Does that make the payments line up, or did you already account for that?

    I *think* I got a great deal, but I'm not really sure.  The numbers above were taken from my lease agreement.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    s4ken said:

    The AudiCare was rolled into the payments.  Finance guy said its costing me $8 (or 9, can't recall exactly)/mo.

    Does that make the payments line up, or did you already account for that?

    I *think* I got a great deal, but I'm not really sure.  The numbers above were taken from my lease agreement.

    Sorry, I didn't adjust the residual to account for the AudiCare increase, but $8/9 per month sounds about right - 1% of $60K is $600, and 57% of that is $342, so about $9.50/mo for 36 months.

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  • s4kens4ken Posts: 9
    Thanks!  All in all, would you say a great deal, decent deal, or ooopsie deal?  ;-)
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    s4ken said:

    Thanks!  All in all, would you say a great deal, decent deal, or ooopsie deal?  ;-)

    If you're comfortable with the selling price ... that's the biggest element of the deal.

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  • s4kens4ken Posts: 9
    I don't think I could have done better, so that works.
  • regionalkoolregionalkool Posts: 18
    edited May 2015
    If I am looking to lease a 2015 S4 Prestige Norgaro Audi Exclusive edition with an MSRP of $67,370 and I got it for $500 over dealer invoice what should the MF and residual with Audi care be?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 130,601

    If I am looking to lease a 2015 S4 Prestige Norgaro Audi Exclusive edition with an MSRP of $67,370 and I got it for $500 over dealer invoice what should the MF and residual with Audi care be?

    .00061 MF and 50% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr. Add 1% for AudiCare

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  • Does the Audi exclusive edition make the residual lower? What if it was just a 2015 s4 premium plus
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337

    Does the Audi exclusive edition make the residual lower? What if it was just a 2015 s4 premium plus

    Add 3% to the residual for the Prem + trim.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 130,601

    Does the Audi exclusive edition make the residual lower? What if it was just a 2015 s4 premium plus

    It's the Prestige trim that makes it lower... Not sure if the exclusive edition has different numbers (but, that's doubtful).

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  • vda2006vda2006 Posts: 2
    Any change for the June numbers?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    vda2006 said:

    Any change for the June numbers?

    Current Audi numbers are valid until 7/1/15 ... unless Audi changes them before that time.

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  • eman1977eman1977 Posts: 4
    Hi...I was hoping you could check my inputs and math. I'm looking at the following for a 2015 Premium + S4 with Auto Trans for 36Mo / 7.5K mi per year:

    MSRP: 59,115
    Sales Price: 57,200 (I think I can do a little better, but this is the first offer I've gotten so far from dealer)
    Incentives: 2,250 (I was told this included Audi Summer Event and Customer Loyalty incentives)
    Net Cap Cost: 54,950
    Residual (@ 57%): 33,696 (per this forum and quoted by dealer)
    Money Factor: 0.00061 (per this forum I think this is correct. Note the dealer quoted me 0.0015...more on that later)
    Tax Rate (Seattle, WA): 9.8%
    My Calculation = 708 per month with 0 down (I think this should be around $2,000 out of pocket up front for license, doc fee, acq fee and 1st mo payment)

    Dealer gave me a quote of 2,000 out of pocket up front and 806 a month. If I use the .0015 MF, I get 795 per month (i.e within $11 per month of the quote).

    It seems like the dealer is really trying to profit off me on the MF. I've bought a couple Audi's from this salesperson before and gotten fair deals. Should I hold this against the salesperson or the finance person? Thoughts?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    eman1977 said:

    Hi...I was hoping you could check my inputs and math. I'm looking at the following for a 2015 Premium + S4 with Auto Trans for 36Mo / 7.5K mi per year:

    MSRP: 59,115
    Sales Price: 57,200 (I think I can do a little better, but this is the first offer I've gotten so far from dealer)
    Incentives: 2,250 (I was told this included Audi Summer Event and Customer Loyalty incentives)
    Net Cap Cost: 54,950
    Residual (@ 57%): 33,696 (per this forum and quoted by dealer)
    Money Factor: 0.00061 (per this forum I think this is correct. Note the dealer quoted me 0.0015...more on that later)
    Tax Rate (Seattle, WA): 9.8%
    My Calculation = 708 per month with 0 down (I think this should be around $2,000 out of pocket up front for license, doc fee, acq fee and 1st mo payment)

    Dealer gave me a quote of 2,000 out of pocket up front and 806 a month. If I use the .0015 MF, I get 795 per month (i.e within $11 per month of the quote).

    It seems like the dealer is really trying to profit off me on the MF. I've bought a couple Audi's from this salesperson before and gotten fair deals. Should I hold this against the salesperson or the finance person? Thoughts?

    I confirm the .00061 MF and 57% residual for the S4 Prem Plus.

    I'm getting the $708/mo number as well.

    Yes, dealer is marking up the MF on you. Politely but firmly explain that you won't sign a deal unless the base MF is used.

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  • eman1977eman1977 Posts: 4
    Michael...thanks for the response...very helpful advice. It turns out I can't get the color I want, so I'm likely going to need wait for a 2016 (although the dealer has agreed to lease at the base rates). Any idea on timing of the 2016's (both when the cars will begin arriving at dealers and when the lease rates will be published)?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 130,601
    eman1977 said:

    Michael...thanks for the response...very helpful advice. It turns out I can't get the color I want, so I'm likely going to need wait for a 2016 (although the dealer has agreed to lease at the base rates). Any idea on timing of the 2016's (both when the cars will begin arriving at dealers and when the lease rates will be published)?

    Sorry, no insight on when the new models are coming.

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  • mikeb690mikeb690 Posts: 13
    What are the numbers for the premium plus? MF/RV for a 2015 S4 Premium Plus ? 36/12 and 36/15
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    mikeb690 said:

    What are the numbers for the premium plus? MF/RV for a 2015 S4 Premium Plus ? 36/12 and 36/15

    .00061 and 53% for 36/15; add 2% for 12K

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  • OK, I'm working on closing my deal today. I'm getting $54,585, which is about $1700 over invoice. I was just discussing I'll be putting down MSD, and was informed that there is a cap that the MF cannot go below .00050, is this true?

    I'm currently arguing, and trying to get my "base MF" to .00061, as has been quoted here many times for the Audi Premium Plus S4 currently. With 2 MSD, that'll come down to .00051. Can I really not put any more down to get the MF down lower? I was hoping to put down 5, for MF of .00036 before talking with my dealer. He says audi will not close the deal with the MF below .0005.

    Or maybe he was saying .00005. I'm trying to collect my numbers before I call him back, and looking for some confirmation either way.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337

    OK, I'm working on closing my deal today. I'm getting $54,585, which is about $1700 over invoice. I was just discussing I'll be putting down MSD, and was informed that there is a cap that the MF cannot go below .00050, is this true?

    I'm currently arguing, and trying to get my "base MF" to .00061, as has been quoted here many times for the Audi Premium Plus S4 currently. With 2 MSD, that'll come down to .00051. Can I really not put any more down to get the MF down lower? I was hoping to put down 5, for MF of .00036 before talking with my dealer. He says audi will not close the deal with the MF below .0005.

    Or maybe he was saying .00005. I'm trying to collect my numbers before I call him back, and looking for some confirmation either way.

    The minimum MF for Audi leases is indeed .00005 (4 zeros). If the base MF is .00061, you can put down the maximum of 9 MSDs, each of which lower the MF by .00005, for a net MF of .00016.

    Shouldn't be a problem.

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  • Michaell said:



    The minimum MF for Audi leases is indeed .00005 (4 zeros). If the base MF is .00061, you can put down the maximum of 9 MSDs, each of which lower the MF by .00005, for a net MF of .00016.

    Shouldn't be a problem.

    OK, Thank you. I must have heard him wrong. I'll confirm and continue with my plan. Thank you!
  • Do you have the numbers for...

    AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

    Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337

    Do you have the numbers for...

    AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

    Thank you

    What trim level? What lease term? How many miles per year?

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  • Michaell said:

    Do you have the numbers for...

    AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

    Thank you

    What trim level? What lease term? How many miles per year?
    Premium Plus...36 months/12K miles
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337

    Michaell said:

    Do you have the numbers for...

    AUGUST - 2015 S4 - Money Factor and Residual

    Thank you

    What trim level? What lease term? How many miles per year?
    Premium Plus...36 months/12K miles
    .00042 and 54%

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  • Anyone have lease numbers for September - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
    36mos / 10k miles
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    gregw5 said:

    Anyone have lease numbers for September - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
    36mos / 10k miles

    Current Audi numbers are good until 10/1. Might get replaced with new numbers, but we don't know that yet.

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  • Hi
    Do you have lease numbers for Nov and Dec - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
    36mos / 10k miles and 15k miles.

    Some dealership offer 10k discount on a Prestige Model.

    Thanks
    Kevin
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337

    Hi
    Do you have lease numbers for Nov and Dec - 2015 Audi S4, P+ and Prestige?
    36mos / 10k miles and 15k miles.

    Some dealership offer 10k discount on a Prestige Model.

    Thanks
    Kevin

    36/15 numbers
    .00173 and 51% (P+) or 48% (Prestige)

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  • lanameraslanameras NYPosts: 22
    Can someone post lease figures for either model at 36/10 in NYC?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    lanameras said:

    Can someone post lease figures for either model at 36/10 in NYC?

    36/10 numbers
    .00173 and 54% (P+) or 51% (Prestige)

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  • Can you please provide residual and MF for a 2015 lease for 36 or 48 month lease terms with 12,000 miles / year?

    Thanks in advance.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 130,601
    akestler said:

    Can you please provide residual and MF for a 2015 lease for 36 or 48 month lease terms with 12,000 miles / year?

    Thanks in advance.

    .00173 MF and 53% residual for 36/12
    .00193 MF and 46% residual for 48/12

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  • Thanks. Add 1% for Audi care?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    akestler said:

    Thanks. Add 1% for Audi care?

    Yes.

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  • Looking for current MF and RV on leftover 2015 S4 premium plus. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 130,601
    yenolam said:

    Looking for current MF and RV on leftover 2015 S4 premium plus. Thanks

    Don't show any lease programs for the 2015 S4

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  • poopspoops Posts: 126
    My local Audi dealer has a 2015 Premium Plus S4 in available. Are there any attractive lease programs/incentives available for the '15 model?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 124,337
    poops said:

    My local Audi dealer has a 2015 Premium Plus S4 in available. Are there any attractive lease programs/incentives available for the '15 model?

    We have no lease numbers on the 2015 S4, sorry.

    My guess the lease numbers are so poor as to offset any increase in the discount you could negotiate.

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