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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
2015: .00054 MF and 51% residual
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MSRP: 40595
MF: .00075
RV: 50%
Cap Cost: 39095
CC Reduction: 1500
MSDs: None
Acquisition: 695
Disposition: 350
Taxes: 2210.07
Govt Fee: 297
Doc Fee: 299
Monthly: 477.94
1977.95 due at signing
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I spoke to a dealer and got a sale price number. Before I go in with further negotiations, I'd like to understand how the Edmunds lease calculator is giving me such a high payment.
All numbers below are rough estimates:
1. MSRP - $36000
2. Sale Price - $33000
3. Residual (36mo/15k) - 58% (as provided by Edmunds above in this thread)
4. MF: 0.00126 (3%)
5. Acquisition Fee: $595
6. Title/Reg: $488
7. Other Misc Fees: $500
8. Taxes
I'm getting an approx. figure of $420, instead the calculator is giving me around $480.
At $36K and $33K, and not adding in 5, 6, 7 or 8, I get $405/mo.
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Thanks for all your help on the forums. I hope I have enough of the right information.
(2016) Premium Plus 2.0 Quattro
MSRP: 39350
Discount: 2230
Rebate: 750
Trade: 7000
Sales tax: 830.00
Doc Fee: 75.00
Fees: 1241.00 (Acquisition fee (695.00), along with tabs and some other minor fee)
Amount owed on trade: 7000
MF: .001260
Lease term: 36mo/15,000 year
State: MN
I'm being quoted $550.0 on a 36 month lease with $0 down, which seems really high for this car. I'm wondering where in this deal, if any, is there room to negotiate a better price/payment. I feel like I'm overpaying. Any insight is appreciated.
If you are rolling in the 1st payment with $0 due at signing, then the math is correct.
The 2016 A3 doesn't have a great lease program.
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So, you are getting the base MF, which is a good start.
Are you paying the fees and taxes up front or adding them into the selling price?
If I use $36,370 as the cap cost (MSRP - discount - rebate), then I get a pre-tax payment of $471.76/mo. Quite a difference from the $550/mo quote.
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They have changed the deal and are now proposing a premium instead of the premium plus. (36/15k - $470.00 month, with $0 down) Additional details below on car etc.
2016 premium 2.0 Quattro
MSRP 37220
Discount 2991.02
Rebate: 750
Selling Price after above mentioned discounts and rebates: 34,478.98
Same details as above in regards to my trade and fees, though my sales tax will be slightly less.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
I am in a bit of a dilemma here between financing or leasing.
Lease Quote:
MSRP: 42790
Discount: 6790
Selling Price: 36000
Doc Fee: 80
License/Title: 363
Tire/Battery Fee: 8.75
ELF/Weight: 29
Acquisition Fee: 695
Tax on Collected Items: 46.59
Capitalized Initial Fees: 467.59
Total Cap: 37,689
Rebate: 1000
Net Cap: 36,689
MF: 0.00126
Residual: 56%
I have a quote of $467.59/mo for a 36mo./15k lease with 0 down(the rebate is used as a minimal down payment). I think this is a great deal, but would love an expert's opinion.
Upon calculating this - 467.59*36 = 16833 + 1250 (excess wear package) -> my 3 year cost is $18083.
However, if I finance with the same selling price of 36000-1000 = 35000
Sale price: 35000
Tax: 3062
Title/Other Fees: 400
Total Amount = $38462
With 18k down, and 20462 financed at 1.9%/3yr, total cost = I would own the car for 39066
Now, assuming I sell the car in 3 years at Edmunds and Audi's seemingly low residual rate of 56%, assuming I sell the car for 56% off MSRP(42790) = 23962. That means, in 3 years I would have paid 39066 - 23962 = 15103
Therefore, assuming I sell the car well maintained for that kind of residual, my lease cost is turning out to be 2980 more over 3 years. I would really like some advice on whether my assumptions on selling are justified, and if so, should one lease or buy here ? Is there any incentive for me to lease here / maybe get a good buy out deal after 3 years or something ? Otherwise, the lease is not making sense to me vs. financing.
The dealer has started the paperwork for lease, but I haven't signed the contract. They only did a quick DMV Transfer of Ownership, and a Lease Application. I am assuming that I can change my mind and tell them that I want to finance instead ? Will that be OK ?
Thank You so much.
If you haven't signed any paperwork, you shouldn't have any problem telling the dealership you want to buy instead of lease.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
1.8T FWD premium and premium plus
2.0T Quattro premium and premium plus
.00089 MF and 59%/57% residual
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Thank you!
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Politely but firmly tell the dealer you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. And, reach out to other Audi dealers - it only takes one to make a deal on your terms.
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also am wondering with all this VW issues, does it make sense to wait and get a much better deal on these cars? has anyone seen difference in the pricing over the last month or so?
Regarding the value of VW's (and Audi's) due to the recent unpleasantness, I think it's still too early to say what will happen to the gas models. TDI models, of course, have not been approved for sale in the US, at VW's request.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Can you give me residual and MF for a 2.0T quattro premium for 36 and 42 months at 12k please? Thank you.
.00109 MF and 55% residual
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2016 A3 2.0T Premium;
2016 A3 1.8T Premium; and
2015 A3 2.0T Premium
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2016 A3 2.0T Premium - .00089 and 60%; .00109 and 56%
2016 A3 1.8T Premium - .00068 and 58%; .00088 and 54%
2015 A3 2.0T Premium - .00197 and 57%; .00217 and 53%
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
MSRP …………………….……..$32,445
Selling Price…………………….$29,445
Govt. Fees………………………$675
Proc/Doc Fees………………….$798
Accessories……………………..$0
Service Contract………………..$0
Gap……………………………….$0
Capitalized Taxes……………….$0
Acq Fee…………………………..$695
Security Deposit………………...$0
Gross Capitalized Cost………...$30,938
Residual Value…………………..$17,520
Trade Allowance………………...$0
Trade Payoff……………………..$0
Rebate…………………………….$1250
Cash Cap reduction…………….$0
Net Cap Cost…………………….$30,770.93
Amount paid by Customer……..$0
Can the experts tell me if this is a good deal or if I should lower it? Which fees can be negotiated? This is for a 12K 36 mo lease $0 down
Thanks in advanced
.00068 and 57%.
I get $375/mo + tax with your pricing. The doc fee of $798 is pretty outrageous; I would work to get a lower selling price to mitigate that.
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2016 Audi A3 Cabriolet, 2.0T QUATTRO Premium Plus
-Technology, 19" wheels, S line style package, sport package, B&O sound system, steel pedal caps
MSRP: $50,720
Lease Term: 36 month, 12K mi a year
Down Payment: $1800 including 1st month payment, fees, taxes, and drive off
Monthly payment: $508 or $549 including tax
I think it's a great deal, but I just want to make sure since I've never leased an Audi. Also, how much more a month is Audi Care if I roll into these payments??
To evaluate the payment we would need the selling price. and/or CAP cost.
On the surface, it looks like a good deal.
Audicare is $829, but raises the residual by 1%. Should only raise the payment by about $10/mo., if you roll it in.
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MSRP - $42,850
Truecar - $40,702
With the numbers I've seen above for MF/Res I get $553/mo (8.475% sales tax per month, sigh) for 36 months 12k/yr.
Is it unrealistic to get this under $500/mo?
Also, I see a lot of people posting $1,250 rebates... How do you get those?
$50/mo is about $1800 .. that's how much more off the sticker you'd need to get.
.00089 and 57% are the lease numbers.
$2000 off sticker is about 5% ... not bad for a brand new 2016.
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42/12 - .00109 and 55%
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4
Retail: 33,340
Neg. Price: 30,429
Fees: 1,107
Sales Tax: 1,868
Net Sales Price: 33,404
36 months - 7,500 miles and 1,500 rebate
Out of Pocket: 2,789
Monthly: 295.56
I called in and negotiated this over the phone. I know there's more room to go once I go in person. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks.
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Which state/tax rate?
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Would you please provide the November MF and residual for 2016 A3 1.8T FWD Premium in GA 36/12k ?
Thanks
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