2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

kennyg8

I bought my TL in 06 and did not get an extended warranty. I think the TL is quite reliable and the few miles I put on it in a year (about 5 to 6k) do not justify the extra expense. If you frequently drive or park in a high crime area and don't have a garage, you should think about having Low Jack. It will also reduce your theft insurance premium.

vicnation

With the Nav system screen running the air conditioning and the audio system, one failure to any of those could cost over $2,000 to repair. I'm unwilling to take a chance on that especially when you think about what the Nav system will cost to replace in 5 years. I know they are dependable cars but the electronics are very expensive and prone to eventually fail. Even a screen that becomes de-sensitized to the touch would be covered. It just gives me some peace of mind.

kennyg8

Your nav screen can control the AC? Are we talking about the same car? The nav screen does control some of the audio system's functions, but so do the remote button controls on the steering wheel, the audio buttons on the center stack, the voice recognition system, as well as the audio info display above the nav screen. So, even if the nav screen fails, you can still operate and control your AC and audio system independently.

I agree with you that electronics can get finicky, but so do many mechanical components, and as I said, the TL has a good history and reputation for being reliable. The standard warranty is 4 yrs/50k miles, and the extended warranty typically costs in excess of $1.5k. Depending on your tolerance for risk, the extended warranty does give you more peace of mind, but it has to be bought upfront, at a not-so-nominal cost. For those of us who intend to keep the car for a long time, an extended warranty may well be worth it. For me, I usually get a new car in 4 years, and let my wife drive my old car (usually with less than 25k miles) for a few more years. Since my wife is not tech savvy and does not care much about luxury items - she does not even listen to CD or use the heated seats or sun roof - the myriad of electronics in the TL will likely be uselss to her or appeal to her senses, other than the BT handsfree phone, which she finds practical and user friendly.

jvette

I am wondering about some of these prices. I have been working on a TL deal with Navi for a couple of weeks now and I don't see anything close to these numbers listed on here. I have worked a 100 mile radius of my town. I am getting ready to fax some offers today. Most everyone I have talked to has wanted from $1500 to $2000 over invoice and then add dealer fees tax and lic. I offered one dealer $34,700 + tax for a 07 with Navi and he won't even return my calls.

new2cars

Hi,

Forgive me but like my screen name indicates, I'm new to cars. What is the factory warranty on the nav? So the extended warranty covers the nav? Do extended warranty prices vary from state to state?

Vicnation-
Your OTD price is unreal. What state do you live in? I wonder if the dealerships here in So. Cal. will laugh at me if I even ask for that amount.

What is a good price for Low Jack?

Thanks for everyone's advice!

vicnation

The factory warranty ends at 4 years/50k miles. The extended warranty does cover the nav. It doesn't cover wear items on the car. Extended warranties are not state specific. Any Acura dealership can sell the AcuraCare warranty for any amount they wish. I paid $100 over cost by bringing in an internet quote and having them match it.

I live in NC and my local dealership didn't want to work with me at all. I called several other dealerships and asked if they would sell the car for $35,120 OTD and one took me up on it. Funny thing, they had to travel 6 hours with a flatbed to get it because they didn't have the colors I wanted in stock. Dealerships outside of the town you live will be more willing to deal with you because they don't have to pay the advertising costs to get you in the door...especially dealerships in small towns. It's a freebie for them.

I didn't haggle at all with them because I didn't want to play the game. The more you talk price with a salesperson, the more likely your set price will go up. It's a game each salesperson learns. I worked at a dealership for many years and know the game.

Salespeople are more willing to bend at the end of the month when they are trying to meet their monthly goals. You have to let the dealership make something on the car. I gave them the holdback fee and the doc fees. I figured that was enough profit for them. Others have even done better. Tax here is 3% so take that in consideration. Your tax is probably higher.

chkntony

It depends where you buy the car.
I'm here at Maryland, the lowest quote I got was 34,000 +tax. Some dealers I called said they will beat that price.
I'm going into dealer tomorrow, so probably get some more info.

sbonnewcar

Hello- I'm new to this great resource. I've done my research and I'm wondering if this is achievable:

Willing to pay: $34,000 (what I'm prepared to offer dealers for haggle-free business)

• Excludes MA state tax
• Includes ALL charges & fees:
o Destination/delivery
o Documentation (including MA registration & title)
o Dealer augments
o Dealer preparation
o Advertising
o etc.

Also includes these accessories:

• Wheel locks
• Splash guards
• All season floor mats
• Trunk tray

I believe this to be a fair offer - the dealer will earn full holdback. Accessories + MA reg & title will be a wash.

Thanks for your input!

vicnation

You can probably do it with the wheel locks and trunk tray. They will probably add the all season floor mats and the splash guards to the price. Remember, there are two different types of splash guards; painted and black rubber. Painted ones retail for about $135 and the black ones under $100 (prices without installation).

Tell them you want them to match the best price you found and I'm sure they'll bite especially towards the end of the month. Figure out what your tax will be and calculate your out-the-door price. Use that final price to deal.

jvette

Here is a break down of my best deal to date. I am still looking because I pretty much got the take or leave it attitude.
Sticker for 07 TL Navi $36,795.00 The out the door before sales tax and tags is $35,777.45. This dealer likes to play with the number 7. Then you add sales tax and tag to that number. They also like to play with finance numbers and quote you at a 8.50% rate so the lease looks better even though it has some extra money added into the figure. What is it about some dealers who think you are stupid and can't do simple math. I know how to figure a lease so if they add to the numbers I can find it. Funny thing is they never understand the numbers themselves because the computer did it.

abk99

I think you can do better thursday I picked up a 07 Type S with color match splash guards and wheel locks for 35,500. this is before TTL. I had to haggle over the price but did it all via email and phone with 2 dealers. I ended up leasing because the TL lease is really good rigt now, Money factor on 36 month is .00137 I put 0 down extended the miles to 18k a year. Payment is 552 a month. sounds high but remeber the type S is almost a 40k car and I put 0 down and built in 18k mi. Could have got the payment down in the mid 400's if I put down TTL and first months payment. I was told on a lease put down as little as possible.

vicnation

That's about $2,300 over what I got it for. Always work for the best price on the car, not the monthly payment.

Salespeople like to use a lot of numbers because they know the attrition rate of the customer when more numbers are used. The more numbers are thrown around, the more likely the customer will be willing to cave.

At one point in the negotiation, I was tired of haggling with numbers and I had alsready caved some from my set price...we were still $700 apart. During one of the many trips the salesman took to his "manager", I paused and thought, this isn't worth it. I shouldn't be willing to give ground when they are still making a fair profit. When he came back with another unacceptable offer, I told him I was through and walked out. I got back home and called about 5 dealerships I found within 100 miles and told them the price I was willing to pay (which was lower than the set price I originally went into the dealership with). Two of them jumped at it. I took the closer (in distance) of the two.

Don't be afraid to walk out and don't get caught in the numbers game...you will lose.

It also might do you well to get your financing somewhere else. You can probably find a local credit union that will give you a good rate.

laguy50

Vicnation, around what area do you live? I'm in the market for a TL typeS and am just starting my process. I totally agree with you about the numbers game, but am not sure what $ value above invoice I should be going for. Sounds like you're pretty knowledable about the whole situation so your feedback would be appreciated.

I am not familiar with the "holdback" concept. Is this like a volume discount for the dealer? What amount is this typically and are the dealers getting it for the typeS also?

Great advice on the extended warrantee. Most people don't know that the price is negotiable, so I appreciate you listing the base price. Do you know if these warrantees are transferable if you sell the car?

Also, what $ over invoice did you end up paying on your deal (assuming that you're paying full price for the license and doc fees)?

Thanks for your help!

doccha

Hey i purchased a new black type-s 6mt. I traded in my 2006 325i - it handles terribly in chicago winterrs and seems to be horsepower and technologically handicapped (i'll probably get lynched by other bmw owners). The handling is pretty good though, and i'm sure a 335i would be much better. It was originally my wifes car.

Anyway, I went to two dealers within two days. The first I haggled down to invoice ($35,600 before TTL), however they weren't willing to give me an extra $500 on my trade in value so I bid them farewell. I called a second dealership and told them my situation, and they were much nicer - immediately offered the same invoice price and promised to beat the deal on the trade... I ended up getting $600 extra on the trade.

anyway, with the money factor of 0.00137 and resid value of 57% for 15000 miles, the lease deal was too good... Instead of purchasing i leased and my car payments are actually $250 less than what i was paying on the bmw. My monthly is $529.00 with taxes.

Acura's leases are excellent (i've leased three cars and have taught many friends about leases).... gap insurance is included, the acquisition fee was built in, no security deposit, and there is a $1500 damage allowance at the end of the lease term . Although bmw does have attractive leases on certain models during certain months, they tend to charge a "MACO" fee, acquisition, and security deposit so your out - the - door payment is still high for a 0 down lease.

In the last 3 years I've now have purchased/leased a 2006 g35 coupe 6mt and a 2006 325i. After i've driven the tl type s for awhile I think I might become an expert in the "Entry level sport sedan" forum discussion. All i need is the lexus is 350.

Good luck to all that are looking to purchase/lease - if you are looking to lease soon, you should get in on the current lease deals now - you can get a tl type s for possibly less than $500/month with absolutely 0 down, only the first month's payment.

doccha

I think i just made the previous post, but anyway, i was told by my dealer in chicago that acura has an overabundance of supply of the tl and tl type s cars.... thus the lease and financing incentives. Especially on the type s - not many people, he said, need or want the extra sporty options the tl type s has. I had no problem at all haggling down to invoice on the tl type s at two different dealerships. Its invoice is about 35600 with the destination fee. Hopefully this gives some confidence to people in the market for a tl or tl type s.

abk99

I know its more. note I got a type S not a Reg TL with nav Type S is 2k more on the MSRP. Sounds like you ended up getting a good deal though. Congrats!

abk99

Great Deal! I got pretty much the same deal. I added 9k worth of miles to the lease bring it to 18 a year. with that extra cost factored in it almost identical to what you were able to secure.

vicnation

I'm in the Piedmont of NC, not far from the Charlotte area. I got the car from Flow Acura in Winston Salem.

The dealership always has to make something on a car. Right now, apart from any other factory to dealer incentives, the dealership receives a 3% of MSRP "holdback fee" from the factory for every unit sold. This is in addition to any profit they may make over the invoice fee. 3% equates to over $1,000. Usually, dealers won't give up anything from their holdback but a few here have been able to dip into that a little. Both Honda and Acura have the 3% holdback fee on all their vehicles so the Type S would be included.

The price I was willing to pay included the invoice, doc fees, and the TTL. That gave the dealership a fair profit and I got what I feel was a fair deal. Ultimately, I think I paid $9 over invoice before TTL and doc fee. Others on this site have even done a little better than me.

As for the AcuraCare warranties, they are transferrable for a $50 fee. Otherwise, if you sell the vehicle, get in an accident, get rid of it for any reason, or just wish to cancel it, you are entitled to get back the pro-rated balance ...whenever you wish to cancel. I believe you get an initial grace period where you can get 100% back from the warranty should you change your mind after the initial purchase but I'm not sure how long that might be. The cost for the 8 year/120k mile warranty was raised $100 in January to $1,415. They make these periodic adjustments once or twice a year from what I understand. The Finance manager doesn't want you to know that this price is negotiable and they gave me a hard time until they knew I wouldn't budge. $100 profit is better than no profit and it's not like these things are sitting on shelves and taking up inventory space.

burgermac

Does anyone have any indications of pricing on a base TL without navigation in the Memphis area? Are people getting prices nearer to invoice or MSRP. The Edmunds/CarsDirect/Etc. are quoting prices right around sticker while most other areas of the country (based on this forum) seem to be getting closer to invoice price. Anyone have any info?

carteach

I love my '06 Acura, but I'm totally sorry I didn't get it with the navi. So... I want some thoughts from you. Right now I have 2850 miles on the car. It's in perfect condition except a small chip on the edge of the driver's side door which I will have fix by a professional. I know this isn't the time of year to buy. So, am I better off holding on to the car for another two years and then buying a new one? I got my '06 at the end of November for 28,300. Should I just suck it up and go buy an aftermarket Garmin? (BTW.. I always sell my cars by myself and unless circumstances warranted it, I'd never do a trade in.)

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

laguy50

Thanks so much for your help Vicnation! I'm sure your insights are also very helpful for other people on this board as well. Dealerships must really hate that flow of information that happens on the Internet! :P

On a related note, does anyone happen to know if there are any factory to dealer incentives being offered for the TypeS (or scheduled for the near future)?

ejej2

After reading this post for months I finally made my purchase. A 2007 TL/Navi silver w/black interior for $33,450 & free tint & free oil change and filter for 4yrs or 50,000 miles + TTL. I negotiated my deal over the internet and telephone then went to pick up my car. I live in Houston where we have 4 Acura dealers. It was the end of the month and I had all the Acura deals biding against each other to lower the price. I picked up the car January 30th . I missed the 4.9% APR from the dealer by my credit union had a January special of 5% APR. This post was soooo helpful in helping me set my price. The deal I got was much better then I expected.

laurasdada

Instead of spending ~$1500 on an extended warranty, self-insure! As the original warranty is 4 year/50k miles, take the $$$ and instead of buying the warranty, conservatively invest (CD, T-bills, Money Markets et. al.) it for the duration of the original warranty. If after the warranty expires you do not need any expensive repairs, you still have YOUR money + interest/dividends (e.g. invest for 4 years @ 5%/yr you'll have ~1825!!! still, in YOUR possesion!). If, per chance, there is a pricey failure, you still have YOUR money + interest/dividends to pay for the repair.

I would have to believe that, espacially for Honda/Toyota products, that the odds are severely stacked in the house's favor re: extended warranties. I recently owned a first model year Chrysler product, odds would seem to be in favor of an expensive out of warranty repair? I kept the 300M for 2.5 years/31,000 miles out of warranty and no failures whatsoever. I won! Used the extended warranty $$$ I kept invested as down paymemt on my '05 TL. Needless to say, no extended warranty.

Having written all this, if you can't sleep at night without the extended, by all means as vicnations advises, negotiate the price!

sbonnewcar

As the original poster of this topic, thought I'd report back. Picking her up on Tuesday!!!

Car: 2007 TL base w/ Nav (carbon bronze, taupe)

Accessories: wheel locks, trunk tray, color matched splash guards, all season mats

OTD Cost: $36,185 (includes TTL of $1,770); Not including TTL: $34,415

This site was invaluable in helping me get a reasonable deal, many thanks.

jchiu

would you please email me the name of the salesman at jchiu209@hotmail.com Thanks.

chkntony

got a quote from dealer in gaithersburg $33,800 + TTL.

mantrika

Bought a 2007 TL-S with automatic transmission for below invoice. (35,000 + Tax + Doc Fee + TTL) = 37,900 (OTD). Picked up the vehicle today and needless to say it drives great.

spyderred

where are you located and what dealership?

antz2000

Has anyone had a decent experience in any Acura dealers for a TL-Type S(6 speed) in Washington(Seattle/Spokane area)? I have been trying to talk to dealers to get a price around invoice but no one seems to be really interested in it. Would appreciate if someone can give me information on their experience for dealers around this area.

Thanks

A

mantrika

We are located in Princeton, NJ. We bought it from Bridgewater Acura on Rt 22 in Bridgewater, NJ.

chkntony

Correction : 1.9% and 3.9% valid until 4/30/07

I agreed on a deal TL w/navi for 35170 OTD.

how does it sound?

vicnation

That's a good deal.

starkid2007

Bought a 2007 Acura TL with Navi in the Chicago area at the end of February. Price $33,807 (invoice, according to Edmunds), OTD $36,494. Used Edmunds and Costco to contact local dealers and received via email price quotes ranging from invoice to a few hundreds over. Went to the lowest "bidder" and sealed the deal with the mud guards of no extra charges and without any other haggling. Overall good experience. Now it's time to figure out all the gadgets.

nk582

HI, does any one have any pricing info or good buying experiences around the Philadelphia area on an '07 TL S type...thanks in advance

incognito1

Where are you carteach. I am looking for an 06 private party TL.

preludebob

Mantrika,
I'm also in Princeton, and always have my MDX serviced at Bridgewater Acura. That's a great price you paid for the TL-S. Would you mind PM me you experience for your TL-S purchase? Thanks.

nvnick

I have a 2006 TL non-navi 5A in Indianapolis with 12k miles. Anthracite metallic over Quartz leather. I haven't listed it yet, but will be asking around $28k +/-.

chainlink88

Hi. am new to these forums.I live in nyc area. anyone know what a good otd price would be for 07 tl w/nav? also without nav?

nk582

Hi, i hate to sound stupid, but what is TTL....thanks

chkntony

Tax tag and License.

Here in MD it is 5% + 210 + 99

chkntony

I agreed on a deal OTD $35,400 TL w/navi

hopefully get down 100 or lil more when i actually nego with cash.

incognito1

is dat b4 or after taxes?

echetham

Why with cash, Acura current offers 1.9% for three years, stick the money in a money market (currently paying about 4.5%) and write checks out of that to pay off your loan.

chkntony

Everything included.

On the road price.

chainlink88

after taxes. in other words, out the door

chainlink88

Thanks. May I ask what dealership u dealt with?

jimmyshoes

Looking online i see the MSRP in the states is about 1000 less then the canadian price and that has anothing to do with shipping as that is not even included in the price. Some people in the US have been getting the car for 35K US that is 5000 less when converted to what are MSRP price would give us. ANYONE FROM CANADA GETTING GREAT DEALS

carteach

Hi,

I'm in the NY metro area.

tonyf68us

I would appreciate any insights on my questions.

I am planning to buy a 2007 TL no nav this month (and can wait until last day of the month). First, Edmunds shows invoice price for TL (auto) without Nav as $30,848. Someone in this thread had mentioned an invoice on it as $31,500 or so. What is the correct invoice price?

Second, what's a reasonable deal? Considering the invoice of $30,848 makes their cost $29,923 (with the 3% holdback-correct?) and everything I've read so far, it seems I might be able to offer invoice + TTL or am I crazy? I live in NJ and have easy access to Princeton Acura, Brigewater Acura, and Langhorne Acura.

And my last question is what is best way to proceed? Do I simply e-mail the dealerships with my offer and see what comes back? Do I visit and do it in person?

Again, any comments would be appreciated.

carteach

If you look back to November, there's a great posting on how to plan to buy. It worked well for me.

When I picked up my Acura in November, the saleswoman told me that in order for them to get credit for the sale in a particular month the car had to be delivered before the end of the month. Anyone out there know whether it's true?