2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • pmf13pmf13 Member Posts: 68
    Thanks to both of you. I've removed the message and my spam filters will undoubtedly get a little more of a workout.
  • helloworld_04helloworld_04 Member Posts: 1
    Based on the information I got from the discussions here, I offered a local dealership $31K for a no-navi 04 TL over the phone. The dealership agreed. However when I went to the dealership and ready to complete the transaction, I found the color combo available(Silver/Quartz -my second choice) was not as good as I thought (only personal preference) so I insisted on Silver/Ebony(my first choice). Unfortunately, the dealership was not able to get this color combo from nearby dealerships.

    The dealership has a Red/parchment available which I found very attractive as well (I was thinking about Silver or Antracite so I didn't pay much attention to other colors initially). The dealership offered me at $30.5K and I accepted.

    In addition, I got the wheel lock at $45 - the claimed retail is about $70. Total paid = (30.5K+wheel lock ($45)+tax+lic+ doc fee ($45) + tire fee ($5)).
  • igibanigiban Member Posts: 530
    Why was the dealer willing to sell you less than agreed for Red/parchment vs. Silver/Quartz? Which dealer did you pick up the car from?
  • n2muzicn2muzic Member Posts: 7
    Has anyone bought a TL with underbody kit and rear wing spoiler? What did you have to pay? Want to avoid being gouged on the price if possible. Thanks! I'm in So Cal if it matters.
  • tjbluetjblue Member Posts: 4
    I'm looking at a demo TL-S with 4,500 miles on it. The car lists at 33,000 with the spoiler and splash guards upgrades.
    I know there was a 1500$ manufacture rebate for the 03's but are there any other ones? Someone posted a few pages back about a 4,000$ rebate, does this really exist?
    Anybody have a clue what a good price for this car would be? Thanks, Tom.
  • theclutchtheclutch Member Posts: 21
    whats is a good price in So. Cal and which dealer and sales person should i go visit ? im looking for a 04 blk non/navi.

    thx
  • claimguyclaimguy Member Posts: 9
    Depends on where you live. I have spoken with just about every dealer in socal in my search for a NAV veh. Some of the nicest and most attentive were the following: Thomas Acura/Cheryl Sauer, Weir Canyon Acura Anaheim/Monica Nava, Superior Acura in Bakersfield/David, Downey Acura/Lorna Metzger. All of these folks were ready to help and were easy to deal with. Superior doesn't charge for the protection package, but I am not sure about the others. I believe Downey was discounting non NAV, but since I wasn't looking for one, not sure of price. Was around $1000 off few weeks ago I believe, but hopefully that has improved with more veh's available. Good Luck!!
  • theclutchtheclutch Member Posts: 21
    thx for the tip! my budget is around 34 out of door with protection package. hopefully i can get one soon!
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    Is this in the US or Canada?

    All the TL-S models in the US have been gone for months.

    As far as a good price for it, I wouldn't pay more than $26,000.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    In Canada, there is a $4000 CAD rebate on all remaining TL/CL.
  • monkster2monkster2 Member Posts: 5
    I've just finished extensive research south of LA. Many internet departments won't give more than $300 off MSRP, but a few will do between $500 and $700 off.

    They are all VERY thin on availability. For the color I wanted I was told there were only 9 coming into California in the next 2 months and that Acura would probably keep the supply tight to keep the prices up.
  • tjbluetjblue Member Posts: 4
    The car I'm looking at was designated a demo back in August of 2003 and was supposedly driven by the sales manager. Only 4,500 miles on it and the warranty will be backdated 6 months. Does anyone know if the 4000$ rebate is available in the states or just Canada? I'm located in the midwest. Thanks, Tom
  • david831david831 Member Posts: 2
    You may be correct, however theclutch was looking for a non-navi veh. Those seem to be in plentiful supply.
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    A program car is not a new car, it's actually worse than an average used car because you can be sure it was heavily abused. Personally, I would never touch a program car with a 10-foot poll.
  • gbriankgbriank Member Posts: 220
    That isn't true. My Acura dealer here in Dallas has SIX 2003 TL's on his lot! All S-Type, all automatic.
  • mason11mason11 Member Posts: 7
    I bought my TL the past Sunday at Downey Acura, paying MSRP 35195, no extra charge for protection package. Walter is very helpful (Lorna is no longer there) and it took only 2 hours before I drive the TL out of the lot.
  • scott31scott31 Member Posts: 292
    Actually your mileage may vary (pun intended) on program cars. My second Supra (a 1989 Supra Turbo, replacing a 1988 Supra that saved my life in a wreck (not my fault, btw)) was a program car. It was driven by some VP of Toyota USA (this was in CA) for a year. It had 12,000 miles on it. I don't even think he took out the sport roof in all that time. Only blemish on the outside was a small chip in the paint in the rear spoiler (that you could only see when the hatch was up) and a dime sized ding in the driver's door. Car stickered at a hair over $30k (had every option for that model year). I paid $20k. Was a GREAT car. I kept it until Sept '92 (when I moved to VA)
  • inky4inky4 Member Posts: 238
    Too good to be true. Under invoice. Why?
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    Edmunds shows the '04 TL 6sp non-nav invoicing at $29,755, with sticker at $32,650.

    Johnny
  • rvmeushrvmeush Member Posts: 4
    Could you email me so I can get some additional details about your recent TL purchase? Thanks.
  • hunt_acurahunt_acura Member Posts: 10
    I am planning to buy black/black Auto with Navi and till now the quote i got is $33,250 including protection (all season mats,trunk tray,mud guards, wheel locks) while i was just checking the rates. Guys, what you think, should i jump for it or wait. Looks like now dealers are getting some Navis
    Thanks all, this is really a nice forum.
  • s4givens4given Member Posts: 11
    Thought I'd let you all know. After reading these posts (THANKS GUYS & GALS) and doing a lot of checking, I ended up today with a 2000 TL, with Navigation. There are almost 75,000 on the odometer, which I'm a little concerned about.

    It seems she's been babied. Hardly a scratch on her. Obviously garaged. Barely any outward signs of wear.

    QUESTION - With 75K on the odometer, should I be expecting some major repair bills in the near future. The TL has received many high ratings for reliability, but you guys know best.
  • bsavoybsavoy Member Posts: 4
    04 TL Automatic with Navigation through Performance Auto in Chapel Hill through their internet sales department. Good experience and best price in NC that I could find.

    Price - $33,995
    Doc Fee - $298
    Tax - $1019
    Title/Tag - $61
    TOTAL - $35,373

    Everyone else in NC was offering MSRP or around $34,800 with negotiating, so I feel good about this deal.
  • mdhaukemdhauke Member Posts: 202
    Got the same deal, same price, except I got it with 6-speed instead of Auto. your right, is a very good price especially since none of the dealers around here can keep Nav units on the lot. btw, I did the internet deal too through them also because I was in Iraq. btw, I pick up on Monday :)
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    I have just been told by a reliable source that Honda is implementing Value Pricing. They have started in Western Canada and eventually will be implemented throughout the rest of Canada. (I'm not sure about the US). Basically it works like Toyota's Access Pricing -- no haggle pricing. The only difference is that the dealers can give a 1% discount either as straight cash discount (min. $350) or credit on accessories. My Acura saleslady did allude to this $350 although the accessories that we agreed on totalled almost $1000. Perhaps internally they would account for the difference to the trade-in allowance. Apparently this Value Pricing will be enforced by Honda, with violators penalized in the form of reduced car allocations.

    Has anyone else in Western Canada been told by their dealer about this?
  • brew99brew99 Member Posts: 86
    Sounds like a great idea - I absolutely hate the car sales process/games that you have to play. It is a waste of my time and everyone who works at the dealership. As long as it is fair to everyone - it is a great idea. I can see how a Honda and a Toyota may have an advantage over some others in the car game with a strategy like this as there is sufficient demand for their product based on the merit of the product itself. It may be tough for others to follow who are overly relient on the deal of the week to sell their vehicles.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    Can you imagine Ford or GM trying no-haggle pricing?!
  • brew99brew99 Member Posts: 86
    Confirmed the deal today - Abyss Blue/Ebony - base auto, $1,200 discount from MSRP plus no admin fee ($190). Pick it up on tuesday! Decided that the extra $4,140 Cdn effective price difference for navi was not worth it especially with no bluetooth service now or in the near future that I was able to confirm with Bell Mobility. Other pricing as an FYI - $1500 off of MSRP on in-stock 6MT's, $1,000 off of in-stock navi, $750 off navi that would have to be ordered or traded with another dealer.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    Congrats! So that was an in-stock car? Was that straight cash discount or credit against accessories?
  • brew99brew99 Member Posts: 86
    Yes, in-stock vehicle and cash discount. Didn't go for the accessories - would rather have had the cash....
  • kahunahkahunah Member Posts: 448
    Maybe I'll see you on the road. Good luck and drive safe.
  • dtate99dtate99 Member Posts: 122
    but I just wanted to repost my message from about 3 weeks ago, less the ending which included my email address. I've been getting hit hard by the junk email. I have received a few messages from legitimate people in the Atlanta area and these are welcomed. I'll just keep my email listed under my profile. From what I (now) understand, the junk email bots can't access that information.

    I purchased a new TL from Acura Carland on 1-10-04. I was very pleased with my overall sales experience. This was actually my second TL to buy from Acura Carland, as I had bought a 2002 TL Type-S two years ago and ended up using it for a trade in.

    I used these message boards to find out a relative starting point for new TLs, and found that most dealers were still sticking pretty close to MSRP, but some were starting to come down $500+.

    I was able to get the new car (Satin Silver/Quartz Interior/without Navi) for $32,135 (includes destination fee) + $299 (Doc Fee) + $800.38 (taxes) + $21 (Warranty and Title) for a sum total of $33255.38. I received a trade in of $21000 even (I had 22,400 miles on my '02) which I was satisfied with. Kelley's Blue Book estimated my trade in to be worth between $20,345 (Good) and $21,575 (Excellent) while Edmund's estimated between $19,782 (Clean) and $20,403 (Outstanding). My former car certainly had some minor scratches as expected, but also had some apparent water spots in the paint and a gash in one of the wheels from an encounter with a curb. Plus, I was in need of two new tires, possibly four.

    So, all in all, I felt good to get $1000+ off the sticker price and what I would call a very good trade in amount. Plus...I got the dealer to throw in a wind deflector for the sunroof, mudflaps, and trunk tray for no additional charge (probably worth an additional $250+). In the end, after my pay off, I was able to drive out of the dealership with lower monthly payments on my '04 TL than my '02 b/c of a better interest rate and lower "balance due on delivery" with no money down other than the small amount of equity I had built up.
  • pmf13pmf13 Member Posts: 68
    Good work brew. Which dealership did you buy from and when do you pick up the car?
  • brew99brew99 Member Posts: 86
    Sherway Acura - very good to deal with and would recommend them. Pick-up the car on tuesday (it was in-stock fortunately). Can't wait! Thanks to all who have been posting on these boards, tremendous information which helped me greatly!!!
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    When you trade in your car you only pay GST (& PST) on the difference between the price of the new car and the allowance on the trade-in. But when the dealer files his GST Return, does he remit the GST based on the full stated price of the new car?

    For example, if the new car costs $40,000 and the trade-in allowance is $20,000. The buyer pays GST of 7% or $1400. But does the dealer have to remit just the $1400, or does he report sales of $40,000 and remits 7% of $40,000, or $2800?
  • ssamirssamir Member Posts: 9
    Greetings,

    I will most probably making the deal this weekend. Here is the pricing I have recvd

    Price = 30,220 (Includes PP) + Destination)
            + TT

    I do have the offer emails. I suggest folks that you please try aggresively to negotiate.

    Thanks
  • mobofemobofe Member Posts: 51
    care to share which dealer/state you got the quote from. I'm sure many lurkers will be interested in what I consider and excellent deal for a non-nav. (also if it applies to all cars on the dealer lot or a specific color combo).
  • ssamirssamir Member Posts: 9
    Greetings,

    This is the pricing that was offered to be in NJ. This is not any specifc color combo. I made sure of that, but it may be for cars on the dealer lot. I was looking for the silver/ebony combination.
  • msf2msf2 Member Posts: 88
    Just had a great buying experience at John Holtz Acura in Rochester. So painless I'm still not sure I bought the car......
    Waiting on delivery of Redondo Red/Parchment/Navi coming Feb. 29th-I'll probably take delivery first weekend in March. Didn't have to order-happened to be on the manifest for delivery.
    Test drive: Very impressed with build quality, ride (I'll probably switch tires), and sound system. Great salesman who sat with me patiently and went through the Navi and other details.
    Interestingly, I was overwhelmed at first with the navi and thought I would let it go but by time I was done with the test drive and it recognized ALL my voice commands instantly I did a one-eighty and now I own it. It's impressive and I will use it. Keep in mind-I'm driving a 1993 Accord right now-the TL felt like the Space Shuttle to me. Now my Honda is a winter rat.
    Acura was offering $1,00 off MSRP. I took it. Gov. Pataki adds 8% (ouch!)-total $37100-minus $100 from a referral from another customer-$37,000. Some will do better, some will do worse but I'm happy with the experience.
    I mentioned I'll probably switch the tires. Not because the ride was bad but because postings here have convinced me it could be better so in a few months I'll look into it.

    kph-is it possible I'll be in my car before you are in yours? Go figure.....
  • kahunahkahunah Member Posts: 448
    Nice combo. Did you get any accessories? Which tires are you going for? Since you have a winter rat, will you get all seasons or summer tires?
  • msf2msf2 Member Posts: 88
    Thank you sir....
    Might have to celebrate with a weekend in TO. Heck the deals for hotel, theater, and meals are outta sight now. Need to get back to the Royal York.
    I didn't buy any additional accessories (the deal included wheel locks, mudflaps, trunk tray, all weather matts). I'll look at the Falken tires "dulnev" has a chubby for. I think they are all season. This is a great car. I don't remember did you buy yet? What do you have?
  • guptag724guptag724 Member Posts: 8
    Has anyone bought a 2004 TL in Oregon/Northern CA/Southern Washington lately?
    We have only one Acura dealer in a 175 mile radius, so obviously they want MSRP even for the non-nav!
    If I buy a car in another state, would I have problems with getting my car serviced at the local dealer, would I have to pay the sales-tax of the state where I buy the car?
    Any help would be greatly appreciated
  • kphkph Member Posts: 40
    I am happy to hear you went with the navi -- I think it is really well designed to integrate several different functions. And it should really impress folks when you demo it to them. :)

    Yeah - you will be in yours before I get mine. However, if I had wanted to, I could have gotten a Red/Parchment right about now. I really wanted to wait until second half of March, both for weather reasons, and because I have a *huge* design review at work on 3/15, and I can't afford the distraction of wanting to go for a drive in my new TL. Once that review is past, I will want the distraction...

    Let us know when you get it, and your impressions. I need to go in to my dealer soon and talk about a trade in (have to be within 60 days of delivery for the quote to be good) and tweak a couple of accessories. Want to broach the subject of the tires then, too.
  • eglewiseglewis Member Posts: 23
    Which dealer in NJ ?
  • kahunahkahunah Member Posts: 448
    Oh, I bought early. Got on the waiting list end of last summer. Early November, I took delivery of the first 6-speed (Dynamic Package) delivered to my dealership and paid MSRP for the privilege (no regrets). Silver/Ebony (Nav not avail. in this pkg.) with Brembos and summer tires (put on Dunlop Winter Sport M2s for the season - great tires). Also got same accessories as you, plus body side moulding (no charge). Paid no fees, just gas and a/c tax. My wife drives the Red 2000 TL now (mint condition).

    Toronto's a great town for dining & entertainment. If you ever need a hotel or restaurant recommendation, let me know. We're headed for Niagara-On-The-Lake this weekend. Looking forward to the drive.

    P.S. Falken makes a great performance summer tire: The Azenis ST-115 Ultra High Performance "Silent Tire".
  • msf2msf2 Member Posts: 88
    Hey-hit the Oban Inn in Niagara on the Lake. Great for lunch or dinner. But somehow you probably already know that.
    I'm trying to imagine this car riding BETTER with different tires. Like I alludded to earlier this TL won't see a winter for as long as I can hold out driving this Accord. That won't be easy. Need to figure out an anti door ding strategy at the Med Center parking lot where I work.....

    kph-I'm a little concerned how the weather will be in a few weeks. If it's like last year it'll be fine. But what the heck-it's a nice surprise to get the car this soon and here comes Spring.
  • wbernie51wbernie51 Member Posts: 4
    I pulled the trigger on a AT/Non-Navi TL (Anthracite/Ebony) here in the New York metro area. Drove the A4 3.0, G35x, and Volvo S60-R and landed on the TL for a number of reasons (price/value being #1). After doing a lot of work on the web, I actually had 3 dealers competing for my business at $30,200 incl Destination. $100 UNDER invoice and I had 3 guys willing to make the deal. The best price I could find on a Navi car was $33,400. So that beings the real price of the Navi up to $3,200. I guess I'll just have to learn to stop and ask for directions. Anyone else seen pricing this competitive? I had a couple dealers that told me to jump on it they could not come close.

    FYI.. Doc fees/License etc totaled about $200 more.
  • danny1878danny1878 Member Posts: 339
    $30,200 for A/T,non-nav that is the best deal I have ever heard. $3,200 more for Navi is quite expensive, well in my case I just have to live without it with a little dissapointment. Anyway the car is great, it makes me forget that.

    Document fee usually is $50 dont pay more. Good job wbernie51
  • dulnevdulnev Member Posts: 652
    Since you're in Rochester snow-country, I would definitelly get the EL42s thrown out. They are garbage in the snow!
  • boneyardjellyboneyardjelly Member Posts: 11
    I took delivery on Feb 10th of my Silver/Ebony, non-Navi, automatic with protection package ($31,400 + tax & lic) from Niello Acura in Sacramento. I can't believe you would have problems getting it serviced in OR if you bought in CA or WA. I can't answer your questions regarding tax, though. Best to call your DMV or email/call an out-of-state dealer. Niello's number is 916.334.6800 and they're on the web, too. I negotiated $2100 off the MSRP ($33,195 base + $295 Pro Pack)in a 5-minute phone call. Pleasanton Acura, in the East Bay area outside of San Francisco, offered me $2,400 off MSRP. I went with the local dealer because they were so easy to deal with and I didn't want to have to make multiple trips to an out-of-area dealer. They gave me $100 off the installed price of LoJack ($595) and the rest of the add-ons at their cost. Good luck.
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