2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

madmanmoo

$3,000 below INVOICE? Are you including some rebate in that price as well? There's no way they are selling at that number without some extra rebate or dealer cash.

-moo

Edit: Just did some research and they are showing $2,000 in dealer cash for '08 TL's. I think you can safely say invoice minus the dealer cash is a good price. Anything more than that would be gravy.

xtabi

No I'm not kidding at all. I only paid 31,600 for my TL. Here is the breakdown.

TL w/ Navi Invoice = 33,998
Holdback = ~1,108
Factory to Dealer Incentive = 2,000

33,998 - 1,108 - 2,000 = 30,998

Destination Charge = 715

30,998 + 715 = 31,604

I paid 31,604 for my car plus tax.

Maybe not all dealers will give this deal to you, based on many factors. But the first, and closest, dealer to me took the offer with no problem.

I did see the car I bought was on their lot for 151 days. So please understand there are a lot of factors that go into if a dealer will take that offer I'm sure.

I have always bought all of my cars way under invoice. Its pretty easy when you know how everythign works. Not many people do so I guess that is why I can get what I want, because the dealers are making a killing off of the VAST majority of other people. They can stand to 'only' make $3,000 off of me.

madmanmoo

You got a great price. I don't think you should say anything less than that is a bad deal though. You got a GREAT deal. I think invoice minus the dealer cash would be a good deal.

Congrulations, btw!

-moo

xtabi

I would say they will increase the rebate (say 2,500 to 3,500)...and then as time comes even closer or passes they will readd the rebate + low financing.

That would be my guess. You could probably pick up a TL w/ navi for 30,500 or so and get a great rate. That is of course if the color combo you want is still around.

xtabi

Thanks Moo!

I'm sticking around here trying to help others get a great deal too! Hopefully others will start reporting they are getting great deals.

Remember to just contact the dealerships via their websites. Find the car you want in their online inventory and send them an offer on it if you are truly ready to buy. Also have your financing inline ahead of time, that way you can also see if they can beat your rate/deal. They could not beat mine, but you might be in a different boat.

Good luck!

madmanmoo

Just FYI, the Acura money is dealer cash not rebate money. There is a significant difference between the two. Dealer cash does not need to be reported which means that they can apply it anyway they wish. It's money directly to the dealer. On your paperwork, it will look like a discount off the top.

Rebates are reported and given to you. They are taken off the bottom. So there is no reduction in sales tax because of rebate money.

Hope that helps if anyone was wondering.

-moo

Edit: By the way, I just realized that I have NO idea how I got on this forum. It's like I looked up and realized I'm in foreign territory. LOL!!

kyfdx

Yeah... what are you doing here?

madmanmoo

I have no clue. Maybe I was sleep posting or something. I mean, I like TL's and all, but ....

Ahh, maybe I came over here to flame someone and then got distracted.

I have learned something today though. TL's have dealer cash on them and they are selling them CHEAP!!! EVERYTHING MUST GO!!

Ok, back to real posts.

-moo

minime3

Holdback = ~1,108 ???

Hold back on a TL is not 1,108 I am not sure where you got this from.. Hold back + advertising / floor plan money but a 151day car wouldnt have floor money left on it... ??

breezie1

Hi all,

This board was helpful to me during my search so I thought I would pass some pricing on to help others. I got the full $2000 dealer cash to give me 31998 +TTL. The sales guy was easy to work with, gave me the cash with out even batting an eye. Upfront with me from the very beginning. Plus a trade in & one add on for tires I paid (~32400 OTD) less than the absolute low price another dealer gave. Hopes this help someone. (VA area)

jrg881

I want to start out this review by saying I have no personal vendetta against Acura. I think for the money, most of their lineup are the best deals. However, the Acura TL-Type S is not one of them. I have had such an unpleasant experience with the car, that I will be trading it in in a couple of days for an Infiniti G. The car has too many quality issues such as rattles and creeks for a car that is supposed to be competing with the likes of BMW, Mercedes and Infiniti. Furthermore, I believe the issue is due to the fact that the car should not utilize a sports suspension along with a bigger engine. This I believe contributes to the rattles, shakes and vibrations which occur on a daily basis. In my opinion, wait until Acura comes out with an AWD version and allow them time to improve their Type-S cars. This will allow for a better riding car, along with giving Acura more time to improve their quality control which the company needs alot more of specifically with the Type S TL. If you buy now, technology such as the navigation system will not be able to save it from it's extensive quality issues which will make you regret buying the car in the first place.

laurasdada

Hey, Moo: Maybe you came here regarding the post from the "salesperson" who was upset that the dealer didn't do enough to sell themselves to her? All they did was offer great deals???!!!

madmanmoo

That was it. I forgot after a few days what the heck was going on. It was like I suddenly came out of the ether and wondered what the heck I was doing.

Pretty funny feeling, lol.

-moo

romo_007

Hello Peeps, I just leased an 2008 Acura TL with Nav. Heres what I paid

MSRP- 36940
Invoice- 34248
Purchase price- 33248 + 595 (Aquisition Fee)
Money factor- .00045
Residual- 55%
12k miles per year for 36 months
With all the DMV fee and registration and first months payment drive off = $935
Monthly Payment 431.48 per month including taxes @8.75%.

What say...how did I do??

laurasdada

" It was like I suddenly came out of the ether and wondered what the heck I was doing. "

I know, I call it "every morning!"

madmanmoo

:P

-moo

heyjoed

What state do you live in? Looks like you got a great deal.

punkyjunior895

it would only make sense that after this dealer cash incentive of 2500 ends the first week of march, it has to get higher. Your just getting months closer to the 09, so how could it fade or get lower. Can someone post the link which shows the incentives on cars? the only way i have found out about them is looking in the last few pages of Crain's Automotive, which my local library has...it's subscription is over $100 a year.

kasers

35,600 08 TL S w/ Nav - Is that a good price at this time?

parviz

Not at all. You should be able to get it for about $2000 less than that at this time. Check the older posts and you'll see what others are paying for it.

mwaddo10

I was wondering when would be the best time to buy an 08? Obviously, as we get closer to 09 release, the 08's will be discounted more and more, but I was wondering about the end of March. I believe the end of March is Honda/Acura's fiscal year, and I was curious if they would want to more more cars in March than in April to make the end of year numbers better?

Any thoughts?

Mike

xtabi

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incentives/holdback/index.html

Make Holdback
Acura 3% of the Base MSRP

This would = about 1,008 for an 08 w/ Navi.

kyfdx

I wouldn't count on the holdback article.. It was last updated in 2005..

Everything I hear leads me to believe that all Acuras and Hondas now have a 2% holdback..

regards,
kyfdx

parviz

I don't think it would get "much" better than now, maybe a $400-$500 better or a better finance rate. My experience with Honda has been that the year end incentive have been better if not the same as the model closeout time. For $500 you would be enjoying the car you want for 2-3 more months unless you can wait. And keep in mind that they will reduce production as the new model comes out (must have learned something from the introduction of the 08 Accord) and that would give you less flexibility if finding the exact car you want. IMO a trade off between saving a few moer $$ vs. taking a chance in not finding your exact car when the time comes.

djcee73

We're seriously thinking about an Acura TL (or possibly a Murano) and was wondering if anyone has heard of any upcoming dealer offers like 0% financing, rebates or dealer cash. Thanks for any help.

punkyjunior895

I was wondering what I should negotiate for for a TL-Base with 34,440 MSRP

Sales guy offered me 32,400 OTD, but looks like he was ripping me off and didn't give the additional rebate.

I will take my buiz to another dealership, would it be reasonable to ask for 30K OTD?
i am in a MI with 6% tax.

Way i see it is invoice is 30,991 on base tl - 2000 incentive, gets me at 28,991 plus 6% taxes gives 30,730. However a car magazine says that rebate is as high as 2500, from 2000-2500. So that factor, plus dealer holdback is 30K do able?

Thanks

parviz

Your own calculations are right on. I am not sure how much you would have to pay in your state for the DMV fees but it can't be more than $300. In any event, you should not pay more than invoice less dealer cash plus TTL. Watch out for any dealer fees which is only gravy. If you were interested in the Honda Care, the 8 yr, 120K mi, $0 ded. should not be more than $1495 (online price but the dealer will match if you insist).

madmanmoo

No. I think you're a little bit off. Be prepared to move by a couple hundred dollars, but otherwards you're good to go.

You haven't included any dealer fee or registration.

Good luck!

slowcar

Folks,
What's the going price for the TL w/ Nav in Houston, TX. My offer of $31K even plus TTL+$50doc fee was turned down by the dealer. They asked for $32K....They have tons of TLs on the lot with some as old as 6 months....Thanks.

madmanmoo

Contact another dealer. You shouldn't have a major problem getting that deal. Seems fair to me.

-moo

slowcar

You forgot to add $715 for the destination. $30,991 is the invoice for the TL without destination....

slowcar

Mad: are you sure? This is the TL with Navigation. This is my math:

Invoice including destination: $34K
Dealer cash: -$2K
Dealer holdback: -$1K (this figure I just guessed 3% of MSRP)

My offer: $31K. Don't you think it's too low???? It ate into dealer holdback which is untouchable for some !!!!

madmanmoo

Ya, it is a bit too low. I skipped over the NAV part. You're not too far off though. They countered with $1k more, split the difference with them and you should be good to go. You're getting a good deal regardless.

-moo

bill1000

I agree with others that you should be able to get invoice minus the $2000 dealer incentive. I just bought a TL base last week for $29,706. Invoice is $31,706 including destination charge (you left this off your numbers). The only other fees I paid were 6% state sales tax (same as you) and around $150 for registration, tags, and doc fees. My OTD price was right around $31,600. I think this is a great deal and was not interested in haggling with my dealer to try to get another couple of hundred dollars. I already had 3 quotes and no one went below invoice anyway. One was $200 over, one was $400 over invoice and my dealer went to invoice. My advice is get invoice (or very close), buy the car and enjoy it!! Good luck.

bill1000

I don't know about other areas of the country, but in the Philly area I could not find a dealer willing to cut into their holdback even when I walked out without buying a car from them. I only tried with 4 dealers, so my data sample is small but these were some of the higher volume dealers in the area. My hunch is that if they go into their holdback they will look to make it up in other fees like dealer prep, warranties, or some other add on. I was clear with them up front that I would only pay for sales tax and tags/registration fees.

madmanmoo

It certainly does depend on your area. Holdback is normally off limits unless they really need to move the vehicles. I'm sure you would be safe by offering a little over invoice minus dealer cash. Gotta let them keep the doors open somehow, right?



-moo

slowcar

Moo: thanks for the advice but I have one question. The dealer I visited has tons of TLs, at least almost 100 that I can see physically. They are all on the lot at least 4-5-6 months (based on the inspection stickers 9/09 or 10/09). Does it mean they did not receive more TLs after September or October '07; thus no stickers newer than 10/09? Or they did continue to receive cars but they parked them in the back, away from customers so they can move those older ones first? If this is true then they would have at least twice the number of TLs in stocks... like in 200's and this is just one dealer. Just curious.

madmanmoo

That is A LOT of TL's. With as many '08's as you mentioned, I would assume they would want to move them as well, hence the aggressive pricing you're looking at.

Here's my advice, they WILL do your deal or get very close to it at some point. You want to hold off until a little later in the month? Let them know that you have time and to get in touch with you when they are ready. Maybe they will start to scramble a little bit and decide your deal is worth doing. Maybe they won't. How about a final offer from you of invoice minus 1/2 of holdback and you get the dealer cash as well?

That is a LOT of TL's they have on their lot. Lol!

Good luck!

-moo

kyfdx

Acura only has four models, right?

I would guess that the TL is at least 60-70% of total Acura sales.. While I haven't seen 100 of them at my local dealers, they have at least 40-50... If it is a big dealer, 100 wouldn't be out of the question..

I think invoice minus incentive is a pretty good price.. If you can get into holdback, so much the better, but I wouldn't count on it.. (or worry about putting them out of business..lol).

madmanmoo

TSX, TL, RL
RDX, MDX

Am I missing anything?

100 might not be out of the question, but 200? That'd be a TON of those vehicles.

I agree with you on the pricing. It never hurts to ask.

(What am I still doing on this board?)

-moo

kyfdx

Oh yeah... forgot about the RL (as did everyone else)..

laurasdada

You just meet the most innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnteresting people here...

Maybe you're just waiting to see if the disgruntled salesperson who wanted to be sold will ever return?

madmanmoo

Lol,

Or, maybe I've met some very nice people that I like to talk to here. :P

-moo

rukiddingme1

Hey PK895,

Everything I see posted doesn't mention if you want to lease the TL.

Do all the same rules apply?

-2k from invoice? (31,500- 31,900) w/o navi.

And do you work out invoice prices on add ons to the TL?

punkyjunior895

I'm not leasing, going to buy, dunno about leasing deals. I will post my next experience soon after I go deal on a TL later today.

smack518

In December the dealer cash did not apply if you were leasing. Don't know if that's changed since they extended it through March though.

rukiddingme1

Thanks PKJ895 and smk518.
I am on the fence weather to buy or lease the TL.
I just got out of a Boxster and need to get back to 4-doors.
But weather I buy or lease the car has got to have that performance I am looking for. And so far the TL does.
Everything I've read has told me to negotiate the price first then let them know if you are buying or leasing.
But then if you chose to lease vs buy does that mean that the price that you negotiated goes out the window?

Another question I had is the options. Do I need to get the invoice on every option when negotiating for the best deal?

ssft

Costco program price on a TL /w nav, Invoice + $800, minus $2000. This is in the pacific northwest region, and so far haven't had much luck getting any quotes better than this. Anyone recently get a better deal in the Seattle / Portland area?

bill1000

The only manufacturer options are nav or no nav and base or Type S (invoice on these options is easy to get online). Anything else would be dealer options and that where pricing gets fuzzy.

punkyjunior895

I just closed a deal on a white pearl base model TL. with taupe

MSRP 34,440
Taxes 2066.40 [6%]
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$36,506.40 Original cost

Paid $30,072.27 [with a bit of negotiating to get an additional $340 off from where it was] included doc, transfer plates, advertising fees, honda care [mats, splash guards, wheel locks], and destination

Taxes $1804 @ 6%

Total price paid $31,998.72

seemed like there might have been room to get it maybe at 31,700 for a car that had 200 miles, but didn't like that interior, so i got taupe.

Hope you guys find a nice salesmen like i did, there are some that won't even budge. Plus they all play the whole "I didn't know there was a rebate game". I was always offered 35XXXK OTD, and then had to tell them invoice plus rebates.

Good Luck