2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

pkl123

Check the previous posts.Looks like the bottom is the $30,900 non-navi deal in the burbs of Chi-town. If not available, $30,200-$30,500 seems like a good landing point. Good luck and let us know how you make out !

pkl123

sorry.... ment $31,200-$31,500 would be a good landing point !!

perplsmurf

Is $31,500.00 a good price for an 05 TL with Nav? As i said, Im in NJ, I dont know if that's a factor. Ive got a preliminary quote of "about $33,000.00" from one local dealer. Is that $1500.00 too much? These prices are without tax, title, reg. etc. of course. Very grateful for any input.

pilotguy1

I also have heard that they are making more navis. I really didn't care if he was bluffing or not. I gave him a shot at getting my business and he lost. By the way according to the person I contacted at Costco, he said that the price is a contracted price that is negotiated from Costco and would not vary between dealers and if I were to go to the dealer he was supposed to show me the invoice and the contracted price so that there is no game playing. I told him of the non navi price I heard was available and he did not seem to question it so it could be accurate but the price on the navi was so out of wack that I didn't even care to continue the conversation and waste my time. One interesting thing to note is apparently not all the Acura dealerships participate with Costco in the Chicago land area. Where this dealership is located there is a lot of $$$$ in the surrounding towns making the navi the obvious choice, hence the high demand for the navi and a possable overstock on the non navi.

pkl123

If you got a quote of $33,000 w/ navi, thats a real strong offer !!Best we have seen so far is $30,900 non navi and the navi is a $2000 up grade.IMHO I would jump on it.

joanie

Costco pricing may be the same for all dealers on a specific date, but the pricing does change. The navis were invoice plus 1200 at the time I bought.
Which came out to about $2000.00 over non-navi. They
were having a special Illinois dealers sale at the time.(It is now over)

joanie

I agree JUMP ON IT !

pilotguy1

That is why I was wondering if getting the quote on November 2nd had anything to do with the price as opposed to the end of the month, I guess it must have. I will probably give one more dealership a chance to get my business before the TL I have on order from the other dealership comes in at the end of the month. Buy the way I have yet to get a copy of the work sheet with the exact price on it. I asked last week for the exact price with ttl included for an out the door price, he has yet to call back. I left him a message last night to fax me a copy of the work sheet, and still no fax. I will keep you posted with this soap opera saga.

khastak

I am meeting with Cleveland Acura dealer this weekend for a 05 TL. What would be a good price for a 05 TL with or without Nav. The last i heard was $30,900 for a non-navi would be a good price..any suggestion and buying tips are welcomed..please advise so that i can go well prepared to meet the dealer

joanie

According to the sheet I saw the other day the
current Costco prices are good thru 12/29/04.
Good luck.

aaargh

For a non-nav 30,900 is a good price. It seems Acura of Cleveland is more willing to deal than Motorcars. Search this discussion forum with 'Cleveland' to see what's been discussed lately.

That should help.

pkl123

Let us know how you make out,I'm about to pull the trigger as well this weekend !

perplsmurf

Just got some lease numbers from a local dealer: 2005 Acura TL Navigation; Based on a selling price of $34,270.00
42 Mo. Term/12K Miles Yr./$2,000 Due/$478.13 Mo. NJ Tax Inc. in Payment.

This is before any haggling on my part. Would appreciate any input. What should I be aiming for?

pkl123

Your post is somewhat confusing. #2225 you indicate you got a preliminary quote of around $33,000 w/ navi,... now your considering a price of $34,200 w/ navi ?? Was the $33,000 bogus ? Fill us in !!!

avp2417

I was just quoted $750 below MSRP in Chicago West Suburbs using the Costco discount (which works out to $34,150 plus $570 destination/handling). I'm looking at a 42 month lease with $1000 down towards taxes, which works out to approx. $639/month. I don't have the worksheet, but I was told .0026 MF with a 55% residual (which works out to $18,782). The lease is through Honda and includes 15,000 miles per year.

Based on other posts, seems like lower price may be available in Chicago, but that may have changed on 11/1. Any thoughts on these numbers?

billyperks

That monthly payment is way too high for a LEASE on a 34,0000.00 car.
That's more like a RL payment.
Some where along the line the math got screwed up,or somebody is trying to RIP you off.
Let me ask- Do you go into the dealership and tell them upfront that you want to lease? If so, BIG MISTAKE.
Please negotiate a price close to invoice then tell them you want to work a payment on that CAPITALIZED COST.

kyfdx

Keep in mind.. he is in Illinois.. They have to pay sales tax on the entire cost of the car.. At 8%, the tax alone could be $80/month..

Not passing judgement on the lease deal, though.. Doesn't seem that great...

regards,
kyfdx

avp2417

Thanks for the feedback kyfdx and billyperks. The lease does include sales tax of $3500 plus title/reg fees of $500 and the $570 acquisition fee. Minus $1000 that I was asked to put down towards these items.

When I negotiated, I said I hadn't decided whether to lease or buy and negotiated a purchase price. Based upon the Edmonds TMV of MSRP, I though $750 off MSRP was pretty good. However, I didn't discover these forums until afterwords (dumb, I know). So now I'm not sure I got such a good deal.

Even so I agree that the lease price is too high. The reason I like the TL is because of its low cost compared to others like the BMW for example. But with lease payments in the $625 plus range, I could probably lease a 545 or at least a 530. Something is definitely wrong.

I think my biggest problem is that the dealer hasn't showed me a worksheet with all of the numbers. I am going to ask for that again and if they don't give it to me, I will go to another dealer.

joanie

That sounds like the wrong price for Costco. Did they SHOW you the invoice and the price sheet from costco? The price should be more like
invoice 31,800.
destination 570.
costco 1,500.
TOTAL 33,870. GIVE OR TAKE $5.00
PLUS tx, title,lic.

perplsmurf

Thanks for quick reply- The 33K quote for 05 TL W/Nav was unfortunately dealer talk(BOGUS). Another dealer has quoted me $430.00/Month for 42 mos. @ 12k miles/ Yr. with total upfront $4,000.00. Doesn't sound super enticing, but Ive yet to haggle. Let me know what you folks think as you've been down this road b4.

billyperks

Do not pay those outrageous down payment on a lease.Tell them you want ZERO down (usually zero down means you pay only acquisition fee $500).

Paying 4K down on a lease is like adding $95 more to your 42 months term.

I am talking from experience, i got low balled back in 1999 when I leased a Millennia.I knew nothing about lease deals, all I wanted was a low monthly payment.

The Dealer had a ball with my bank account,I forgive myself because I was pretty young and naive back then.

pkl123

I think you may be doing it backwards , negoiate the sale price first !! , then decide how you want to pay for it. Dealers love the lease deals because it "muddies" up the transation.
Keep us informed , good luck

milehitlc

I've been pricing TL's in Denver for some time now and it seems the cheapest price locally is through a dealer at 2200 over invoice! I would love to get Acura of Cleveland pricing (about 1200 over invoice) but I think shipping costs would eat up any savings.

Anybody know of a dealer locally that is willing to negotiate. I am willing to a little driving to get a good deal.

Second generation TL Buyer-- Love TL's

gold233790

Know the money factors and residuals before you go in. The leasing forum on here is a big help with that. Decide the term (36, 39, 42 mo.) and miles (10, 12, 15k) you want to drive it for, and find out those two crucial numbers before you walk into a dealership.

THEN, negotiate a purchase price on the vehicle. There's your "cap cost". Don't ever put anything down, compute the sales tax, destination, and first month's payment (there's your "due at signing"). Run the #'s, and there's your lease price. If you use these forums and are comfortable with the price you negotiated for the car and the numbers for the residual and money factor are accurate, you've got yourself a fine lease deal.

FYI- some manufacturers tend to provide leasing help to their vehicles. Acura rarely does this, and as such, their leases never really knock your socks off.

vshah

Can you please let me know which dealer you got the deal with for the 05 TL. I am in the market for a car and am comparing between the 05 Maxima and the 05 TL. Any views/comments?

habitat1

Regarding Maxima vs. TL, I own a 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed that has provided me over 150,000 of relatively trouble free, fun to drive miles. I would not have chosen the TL over the Maxima in any year since on the fun to drive / performance front, until the 2004 model came out. I selected the 2004 TL 6-speed over the Maxima because of its significant improvements in handling and performance, coupled with an available 6-speed and an exceptionally attractive and well equiped interior.

The Nissan product that came a little closer than the Maxima was the G35 sedan, but I still believe the TL is 1-2 rungs up on luxury and aesthetics, while not really giving up much to the G35 in handling. The G35 is RWD which would have been my preference, but the TL corners just as flat as the G35 and the only downside to the TL is some torque steer under hard acceleration. I decided I could live with this in a family sedan, given the TL's clearly superior interior and features.

I still think the 2005 Maxima is a good car and good value. But I am not sure it is as relatively competitive as the 4th generation made in Japan (1995-1999), which is generally regarded as the best vintage for it's time.

craig5

$30,900 is an excellent price for non-navi auto. I bought an 04 TL auto non-navi in August at Acura of Cleveland. The internet manager was excellent to deal with. He emailed a quote of $31195. I had to work hard on the trade-in value. Overall I was happy with the buying experience and love the car.

salbaby1972

Is this a good quote for a 05 TL Auto/Nav in the LA area?

"Our current special pricing for the 2005 TL with Navigation is $34,670. This price includes the destination charge, wheel locks, paint polish and splash guards."

TIA

cherylgirl

I have been reading the latest posts and I'm in the pursuit of an 05 TL/Navi-white/parchment. I live in the DC northern Virginia area and haven't heard good things about the dealerships here as far as pricing. Got the price down to 33,600 without taxes/tags/title at Pohanka. The salesperson who I met earlier in summer passed me off to another guy, and after haggling, they came down to 33,600-but the cheesy way they dealt with us doesn't make me want to buy from them. I can get the same price in Delaware-where my family lives and sister bought her 2002 TL. Better yet, I would get free oil changes and upgrade wood trim in the car, and the salesman is holding the car for me until I can get there-it's on the lot.
So what do you think? Is 33,600 a fair price-especially since I don't have to wait???

pkl123

YES $33,600 is reasonable , but you should try a bit harder and may save a few $$. Check the posts and you will see that the low is $30,900.non navi, so $33,000 w/ navi is the low point so far navi(being a $2,000 up grade)My advice? ... make a offer of $33,200 and see what happens . But do it w/ the local dealer, your life will be easier. So what if you dont like the salesmen , you'll never see em again anyway! BTW, upgrade wood trim ?? I beleive that's standard w/ camel and parchment interiors on the TL,it repalces the brushed aluminum on the ebony interior.

cherylgirl

Thanks for your advice. I forgot to mention- At the local dealership, I did tell them I wanted to pay 33,100 to start. After 3 haggles, the manager quoted 34,900 and then after we walked out another manager chased us down and quoted 33,600. We left because besides not being the price we wanted I didn't feel good about the dealership. I go to see my parents out of town every other weekend in DE, and could get my oil changed at the DE dealership when I visit. So in a way, the DE dealership is not so far away. So, I guess if I pay the 33,600 it is reasonable, but not great-at least the car's there and ready for me to drive! When I get there, I'll try to do some more haggling. Thanks alot for your help and I'll post my final price!

pkl123

Interesting, I think you will do well even @ $33,600. The important thing is the that color and leather is what you want and its immediate delivery. There is value in that. If you want to play w/ him a bit try the ol' I'll split the difference @ $33,400 or whatever, you got nothing to lose !! Don't let him convince you its a upgrade on the wood grain however ! Luv to hear how you make out !

pilotguy1

I do believe that 33,600 is a fair price, but not a great price. I have posted over the past month on this forum what I have been dealing with at my local dealer. I made the deal over a month ago and finally after three different times asking my salesman to fax me a copy of the work sheet that he lost, today I finally got it. The selling price of the car for an 05 navi with no extras is $35470 with a $2296.95 discount bringing it to $33173.05. Then $53.52 doc fee, $143 plates, and $2242.80 Illinois tax for a grand total of $35612.37 out the door. I was firm with the dealer on not going over $800 above invoice. They tried everything they could to sell the car for a higher price. But since it was the end of September, I think that helped me prevail. I would be worried about a dealer trying to mislead you on the upgraded wood trim that comes standard on that interior. The wood does replace the fake looking carbon fiber panels in the ebony interior. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe both interiors have the silver trim, it is just the wood or the carbon fiber that is different on the doors and above the gear shift. So to make a long story endless, I think the price is good but if you offer invoice plus $500 and settle somewhere in between that would be better.

bda1947

You know what everyone, I was reading all these forums and am considering purchasing one myself and I was wondering what is it about the TL that isn't worth the 35,470? Why spend so much time haggling over a "good deal?" Isn't you're time worth more?

qwalls

The TL is worth the asking price, but if you can get it for less, why wouldn't you? I got $2100 off on my 2005. I make decent money, but not so much that I want to throw away $2100.

kyfdx

Well... we'll assume you have a really good job and make $100/hr.. If I can haggle for an hour and come away with a $1000 discount, I would think that is worth my time... If I spend 8 hours, and get a $2000 discount, that is even better..

Better yet.. I'll come cut your grass for $500.. I know you'll pay it, because your time is worth more than to haggle with me to maybe bargain down to $50. I mean.. surely you wouldn't cut it yourself.. and waste all that time....

bda1947

Well the reality is that the $2000 is about $40 a month and surely if your in this price range of luxury sedans I know you are worth more than $40 a month... and I'll give you $75 to do my lawn. My friend time is money and speed is power...

kyfdx

Time is money.. and if you think one hour of time equates to $40/mo. times 60 months. Then, give me all the one hour jobs you have... $2000 is $2000.

If you can't be bothered to spend a couple of hours to save $2000, then I must assume your last name is Gates or Buffett...

But, then again.. even they know the value of a buck.. I bet they don't pay MSRP, either.

Do you really think everyone should just walk in and pay MSRP because it isn't worth their time? If so, why are you wasting time reading these posts?

dogface5

Negotiating prices is a skill, maybe you just can't do it.

pg48477

I'm looking to lease 05 TL w Navi and 6MT in NY area. I have not contacted the dealer yet but wanted to know what would be the reasonable deal( before I go to battle). Do not want to pay more than $1500 out of pocket (whatever they include in it), 12K a year and no more that 39 month.

Thanks in advance.

bda1947

Do you own a TL? How much did you pay and why do you think it's not worth MSRP? That's what I want to know...

milehitlc

OK I thought I would try one more time for any one in Denver who has recently bought an 05 TL/Auto. without NAV. $2200 over invoice is the cheapest so far. That puts the final price at $32752 without taxes,etc--$700 below MSRP. The Dealers I have contacted will throw in side moulding and wheel locks. Does any one know why prices seem to vary so much from region to region. Do the Dealers here pay more for shipping????

Would love to find a price 800 - 1000 over invoice.

u04919

I just bought my TL 05 and paid $34,000/with Nav. Do you think I paid too much? I live in So. Cal.

drv4fun

u04919 - which dealership did you go? I'm almost ready to get a TL also.

habitat1

"Do you own a TL? How much did you pay and why do you think it's not worth MSRP? That's what I want to know..."

I am not sure I get your point from your previous posts.

Are you suggesting that your approach to buying a car would be to simply pay MSRP to avoid using even a minute of time to negotiate? That's pretty foolish, IMO, when the market price of the car is substantially below MSRP.

I don't go into a grocery store expecting to haggle over the price of milk. Nor will I go into a Ferrari dealership if I'm fortunate enough to afford a 430 Modena expecting to negotiate the price. In those cases "MSRP" is non-negotiable and represents the market price for the product. But I did get $2,200 under MSRP on a TL 6-speed in May from my hometown dealership (after the best quote I got from DC area dealerships was $500 under MSRP).

I spent several hours over several days researching and test driving the various sedans on my list (G35, 530/545, E320 CDI, etc.) But after I selected the TL, the additional time I spent getting quotes and negotiating the price was well less than one hour. About 5 phone calls to the sales managers did it. I laid my cards out on the table, got a good quote form my hometown dealership and went with it. I wasn't going to negotiate for free wheel locks or some other add on after the fact, but I wasn't going to leave $1,700 on the table either.

My previous car purchase was a 2002 Honda S2000 at $32,000 (MSRP $32,800). After extensively researching and test driving the Honda against it's only serious competitor, the Porsche Boxster S, I could have easily concluded that the S2000 was worth every penny of $40,000+. Apparantly, a few California buyers did. But, again, I made 3-4 phone calls, got prices which ranges from $32k to over $36k, went with it.

What would you have done differently?

salbaby1972

"I just bought my TL 05 and paid $34,000/with Nav. Do you think I paid too much?"

The lowest price I have been quoted is: $34,469.75 for a TL Auto/Navi including dest and wheel locks. This seems to be the going rate in Thomas, Irvine and South Bay. I have not yet went to Keyes and Santa Monica.

Does anybody know the Costco discount in So Cal to a TL?

tcl

It appears a good price in this area if destination is included. Forget about Costco discount in the So Cal area. You get better price to get an internet quote. Costco quote only a few hundreds off the MSRP.

Kirstie_H

Please visit the Smart Shopper board for general negotiating strategy conversation. This discussion is reserved for those specifically interested in the TL, and conversation should revolve around this vehicle. Thanks.

kirstie_h
Roving Host & Future Vehicles Host

khastak

I went to Acura of Cleveland on Sat the dealer quoted $31750 for non nav..is this is good price? Secondly the dealer was extremely rude and unprofessional and was not ready to negotiate at all.

This week i am going to Motorcars Acura and maybe one more dealer in Akron. Based on my last message i was given the idea that $30900 is a good price for 05 TL non nav..is this price still a good price? or can anyone suggest a good price to negotiate

Any suggestions/ help is welcomed

libra

Your $34,670 quote sounds like same one I got from internet mgr at Downey Acura. If so, they emailed me last week and quoted $34,300 w/dest charge but w/o the protection package. I'm buying a 5AT/NAVI from Sierra Acura for about $200 less than Downey quote and should get delivery in a couple of days. Am getting impression that demand has slackened and prices are getting more reasonable than before.

Good luck.