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2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • rk2005rk2005 Member Posts: 3
    sounds like a great deal.

    maybe i will be paying too much.

    MSRP - 34,000
    im looking at a 05 TL w/o navi
    MF 0.00240
    36 month lease/no money down
    $490 monthly

    what is your cost post tax?

    any thoughts?
  • crazy88crazy88 Member Posts: 12
    Hey guys,

    My advise for you would be:

    1. Always deal with internet sales rep. This means you need to do some online dealings, get some quotes, and emailing back and forth. This is definitely worth of your time. I find that a lot of dealers are not willing to give you a quote through email. Most would call you and ask you to come in. Tell them that you would come in if they give you a quote first. The whole point is to compare and shop and get them to play price war. you can't play the game without a quote. This process should shave $1500 off MSRP easy and hopefully more!

    2. Read www.carbuyingtips.com before you step into a dealership to buy a car. Knowledge is a powerful tool. I felt a lot more comfortable and confident about how I'll deal with the dealer after reading it.

    3. Don't pay more than 500 something over invoice for the TL. That's how much I paid for my TL with Nav and I bought it with my first visit to a dealership(after many hours of research at home of course). I bought mine at Los Getos Acura. The internet sales over there is very nice and very pleasent to work with.

    Please don't believe that we have low supply of cars in the Bay Area. There are 7,8 dealerships in the area, and I believe new cars are shipped to them often. Just be patient with your research, take your best quote to a nearest dealer and have them beat your quote. If they can't, go to next nearest dealer. There are plenty of dealerships to go to and they hate to see you leave, seriously!!

    Anyway, I hope this help and best of luck.
  • acuraornotacuraornot Member Posts: 1
    Thanks for the info. on getting quotes. When I have tried to get email quotes, dealers always respond with "You have to come in". I am planning on buying a 2005 TL at Sunnyvale Acura, they ordered a car for me 3 months ago. I'm hoping that I will be able to get a reduction for buying an '05, since the '06 will be out very soon.

    carbuyingtips.com is a great site!

    Since I have had to wait 3 months for my car and I have read so many complaints about vehicle vibration, I am beginning to reconsider buying TL at all!

    How many miles on yours? Any vibration?
  • vcoonavcoona Member Posts: 3
    I got a quote for $31,695 plus tax and registration fees for a Black 2005 Acura TL (Six Speed with Performance Tires, NO Nav) in Los Angeles. Is this a good deal for the area? Thanks
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    "Since I have had to wait 3 months for my car and I have read so many complaints about vehicle vibration, I am beginning to reconsider buying TL at all!"

    '05 owner here. No vibration issues. "So many complaints..." or just so many complaints from a few posters on Edmunds? How many '04 & '05 TLs have been sold to date and how many of those owners have NOT complained (or experienced) of vibration?

    I don't doubt some owners have an issue and that is a shame as the TL is a fine piece of work. I don't think I've read one negative review of the TL (other than the fact it is FWD!) from any publication. Edmunds names it best in class, Motor Trend (or was it R & T?) just did a glowing long term update of their '04 with no mention of vibration.

    I'm not thrilled with the Bridgestone tires, but that's about it for my complaints. Have you driven an '05 and noted the vibration issue?

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • crazy88crazy88 Member Posts: 12
    I have 700 miles on my TL. No Vibration that I can notice. I wish it's a little quiet at idle and there are wind noises on the high way. But they don't bother me. Overall, my TL is solid.
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    I agree. I've not had any vibration either. I think it was getting a bad rap from the tire problem with those "cold tire flatspots" which are a tire problem, not a TL problem.
  • SylviaSylvia Member Posts: 1,636
    We like to keep this discussion on track of Prices Paid & Buying Experiences only.

    Please take the conversation about tires/vibration to the Acura TL Problems & Solutions discussion. You'll find there is plenty of posting going on there about this issue.
  • spyder1spyder1 Member Posts: 2
    Except for the tires, I highly recommend the TL. If you considering buying a TL and it has Bridgestones on it, insist that the tires be changed before you close the deal. Acura refuses to deal with the Bridgestone problem. Their Customer Relations Dept. is worthless when it comes to that. The Bridgestones are horrible in cool and cold weather. They flat spot to an unacceptable level while the car sits for a period of time.
  • dneprdnepr Member Posts: 6
    Hello,

    First time to post. I need to advice. We defnitely want a TL, and much prefer the new body style. We were offered a 5 year lease on a new one locally for $369 month (ninclud tax and $2500 down on non-navi) but turned it down because lease was too long.

    I have found a 2004 TL at a local dealer that has 7000 miles on it and it is on their used lot. They are asking $29,995. However, when I got serious with the salesman, he showed me something that shocked me. They have had the car out for sale since October! They got 5 of them that were 'loaners' with low mileage and have sold all but the one. He says he thinks it is because it is gold with parchment interior. It is in perfect condition except that there is a deep paint chip (about 3/16" around) right on top of the passenger door handle. The salesman told me that he thinks that if I offered them $27,000, they would take it because he said they have $28,000 in the car, and they might be willing to take the loss in order to roll the money over into something else that will move. The only other thing I noticed was that the engine, when I start it, isn't running quite a smoothly as it should be - it has what sounds like a minor intermittent 'skip a beat' (miss). When I try revving it up, it seems to hesitate slightly - this is compared to the 2002's and 2003's I have tested on the same lot that are all very smooth.

    I am very tempted to buy it if I can get it for $27,000. But, I would want the sale conditioned on them getting the engine smoothed out. Do you think I should also ask them to replace the door handle? (they are selling it at at loss, they say, at $27,000).

    This would be stretching our budget, and we'd have to put down $9000 to get the payment down where we would want it ($375 at 4.5% at credit union).

    What do you guys/gals think of the gold color with the matching parchment interior? I always preferred a contrasting interior color, but for this price maybe I shouldn't pass it up.

    How long will it be before there are more clean 2004's for sale for around $25,000 do you think?

    Also, I am too tall and shoulders broad to consier a TSX. My wife says that when I am sitting in it, I look like a guy wearing a sport coat that is 2 sizes too small! I'm 6'4" and 230 lbs.

    Also, I don't understand why the money factor on leasing a TL is so much higher than say for a Honda Accord. I have 3 Honda dealerships all willing to lease me an Accord EX V6 Auto Leather for 3 years for $273/m with $2500 down and $199/m for an LX. I don't understand why I can't 3 year lease a TL for around $335-$345? Anyone know why not?
  • dneprdnepr Member Posts: 6
    I have just been offered the following lease on a new TL.

    DOWN - $2500 cap reduction plus tax plus first month's lease and waiver of security deposit.

    TERMS - $350/month with 12,000 miles per year.

    They did not tell me what the residual would be and I forgot to ask.

    Is this a 'slick deal'? Need to know if I should go for $340?
  • dneprdnepr Member Posts: 6
    They have given me the residual and it is $17000 after 4 years. This sounds a little high to me, but I'm not sure.
  • mastromastro Member Posts: 39
    dnerp,

    I've been shopping for an '05 TL and have been all through the various TL boards. I would highly recommend that you visit the "owners problems and solutions" board. Being the first year of a redesign the '04s have had a few issues (vibration, tranny, leather seats). Personally, I would stay away from an '04 unless I was buying it from someone I knew and trusted.

    I take it that the car you are looking at does not have navigation system. Kelly Blue Book has a trade in of just under $28, so $27 is a good price. I've gotten quotes on '05s for $31.2 (auto, splash guards, wheel locks, all season mats and dealer fees). I realize the price differential is pretty high, but the '05s do not seem to have the issues evident in the '04s.

    Check out the board above before making a decision and make sure you drive the car. Definitely have them repair the door handle too.

    Good luck.
  • dneprdnepr Member Posts: 6
    I drove the 2004 Gold car tonight and it did have a vibration that I could feel around 50-60 mph. I felt it in the wheel, on my feet on the floorboard, and just overall 'feel'. It was sort of like the sound of a bad wheel bearing along with a fast 'grinding' vibration. The car had Bridgestone tires. I decided to pass, especially given the color combo (gold/parchment). I also drove a 2002 TL with 27000 miles (that they were only asking $20K for) and it felt way smoother and just as comfortable if not more.
  • sostersoster Member Posts: 4
    I'm very close to closing a deal on a 2005 TL w/ Nav and the following options: mud guards, sunroof deflector, rear wing spoiler, and all season floor mats (dealer would throw in wood shift knob).

    I've been negotiating with 4 different dealers and the best deal I received was $33,750.00

    How does this deal sound to you? I'd welcome any thoughts. Thanks for your help!!
  • superdogsuperdog Member Posts: 37
    2005 TL with Navigation for $466.44 x 27 months, total due at signing is $2596.09. This includes your first monthly payment, Acquisition Fee of $945.00, and sales tax of $1184.65.
    There is no cap cost reduction.
    The only additional charge would be DMV fees.
  • mluzzy1mluzzy1 Member Posts: 4
    I looked at your post last night and emailed Bridgewater Acura right away. They came back with their best price of "With $1500 out of pocket, 12k miles per year, and for 42 months......$418/mo. Our price includes everything, you don't pay a penny more when you come in!!!!!!"(that was a quote from an email.

    They have come down to 394(total) with 2500 out of pocket for 42 mos. 12k per year.

    I'd love to know who quoted you the other numbers..i'd be in!!
  • richardthegrearichardthegrea Member Posts: 1
    Does anyone know where to get the best deal in and around Los Angeles? What have been the best deals far? I want to purchase a 2005 TL with Nav. Thanks.
  • bda1947bda1947 Member Posts: 20
    Keyes is it! Large inventory... told me they'll beat any deal I bring them...
  • wilt1wilt1 Member Posts: 13
    I was dealing with there internet Dept., They were waiving my 400 security. Clinton Acura has a current ad running 369 per month for 42 months with somewhere around 2300 total down. When i mentioned this they provided me with the earlier numbers. They all so assured me that number included tax. Good Luck Wilt1
  • charliebearcharliebear Member Posts: 7
    continental acura in naperville, very low pressure, starbucks coffee and bottled water in the waiting room. got a great deal and was treated like a king.
  • superdogsuperdog Member Posts: 37
    sorry, thought I put the dealership name in the post..it was Rally in L.I ( not too far from Queens) I also forgot to mention it was zero security deposit also. This was a internet quote.. I also saw a ad in Newsday sunday TL 399 x27 months ( no nav) 0 down, 0 security. 1400 + T,T,DMV fees.

    Rally by far seems like they have the best deal.. 27 months is perfect imo.

    - I have to read the carbuyingtips site, and then go in this week.

    -How much does termination fees range from?

    -How much are you guys paying? Do dealers always give out loaners if your car goes into service?

    -Does it matter how much the car price really is at the end of the lease.. since you are turning it in and not buying it. ( I assume lower monthly = higher turn in value)

    -What kind of tires should I ask for if bridgestone is not good??

    -How many miles is acceptable on the new car? 20? 30? ...?

    Thanks
  • charliebearcharliebear Member Posts: 7
    soster- sounds like a good deal to me if that includes the destination charge.
  • lycanthrislycanthris Member Posts: 36
    Has anyone here purchased an 05 TL through AHFC? What are the current rates being offered?
    thanks
  • charliewcharliew Member Posts: 14
    I just purchased mine through AHFC two weeks ago. I have tier-1 credit, and the best rate they gave me was 4.85% for 48 months. I might've gotten lower if I kept negotiating, but I was happy enough with the quote.
  • ttothesttothes Member Posts: 5
    wow....do i ever wish i'd found this site a few months ago. over the last couple of days, i've learned from this forum how bad i got shafted by the dealership i leased my 2005 non-nav tl from in late january '05. i go from angry to embarassed back to angry; my fault for not understanding money-factor, residual, and other terms of the lease completely prior to signing, but i actually believed what the smiling finance manager was telling me (i know, i know), which was that he had absolutely no control over what the lease terms (including money factor) were from american honda finance.

    here's the damage:

    sales price w/out ttl= $31,470 (2k off sticker)
    money factor = .0037
    residual = 49%
    term = 48 months
    miles = 15k per year
    monthly payment = 528.17 per month (includes tax)

    my questions are....

    - do you think i have any recourse given that the finance manager looked me right in the eye and lied to me re: flexibility on lease terms through honda financial (i have the wife as a witness, but obviously nothing in writing)?

    - do you know what american honda finance's money factor was for the '05 non-navi tl on january 22, 2005?

    any other comments re: places you feel i may have been gouged are appreciated.

    thanks in advance.

    signed,

    stupid
  • thankthepasserthankthepasser Member Posts: 10
    Hello all.

    I recently test-drove a new '05 TL w/Nav, and when asked if they could work some numbers up for me, I said sure.

    Here's what I was offered:

    MSRP = 35,670 + 619 for rear spoiler = 36,289
    My Price = 34,427 + T.T.L.

    36/36 Lease, residual = 21,222.30
    Nothing but drive-off down (1st months and DMV blah blah blah) = 1000
    Monthly Payment = 656

    They then asked what I thought about these numbers, and I said they look like a good starting point.

    I came back here, and have roughly figured out that the money factor for this lease must be somewhere right around .004075, or 9.78% APR!!!!

    I need help, as I'm so irked and insulted I'm not exactly sure how to respond!
  • dave124dave124 Member Posts: 12
    For all those is San Diego looking to buy a TL. I walked out of CUSH and didn't get the deal I wanted with BALL. The guy at HOEHN laughed at me.

    So, I wrote some emails to the dealers in Orange County and Los Angeles. I got good emails back from Keyes, and Tustin, and eventually purchased from CERRITOS ACURA.

    I purchased an Acura TL w/o Navi. Anthracite Metallic with Quartz interior. I got the Body Side Molding included for the total price of the vehicle. I also got the splash guards, trunk tray, and wheel locks. This was a CASH DEAL!

    Cost of Vehicle: 31,624.84
    Doc fee: 45.00
    Sales Tax: 2454.41
    License Fee: 267.00
    Tires: 8.75
    TOTAL: 34,400.00

    I was very happy with the service I got from the Internet Sales Manager and the rest of the staff at the CERRITOS dealership. I have to go back to get the Body Side Molding installed, and to also pick up the truck tray that was never placed in the trunk. I don't expect it to be a problem. If there is one, I'll post it.

    So, if you are in the San Diego Market, leave town. Go get yourself a better deal.
  • superdogsuperdog Member Posts: 37
    TL w/nav '05
    27 month/ $459, ( tax rolled in )
    due at signing 1st month dmv + bankfee total damage about ~1700
    I'm trying to neg the bankfee of 1050 down to at least 500...then try to push up the residual value up as high as possible to bring down monthly. If I can get them to come down to 429/month ( based on 32,900 neg'ated price) and increase residuals..I will be very happy.

    Good luck guys. I will report back if I can close on this deal.

    SUPERDOGG
  • elag1elag1 Member Posts: 11
    DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT AN appropriate acquisition fee is in NY. we were quoted 1100 by the dealer..seems a little high ...also does anyone know what lease loyalty is ... this lease would be thru american honda finace thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,200
    I'm pretty sure the acquisition fee in NY is $1095...

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  • mcardlemcardle Member Posts: 36
    I'm in Milwaukee, and as some have noted, there are only 2 Acura dealers in America's dairyland. However, there are a bunch in Chicagoland, and I'm hearing about some great deals down there...

    Having never bought a car in another state before, are there any "gotchas" or things to look out for? It would appear that I just buy the car like anyone else, but when they're writing up the paperwork I just inform them I'm from WI and they skip the tax, title and license part?

    Then when I come back to WI, I let the DMV know I bought a new car so I can get it registered. I then pay sales tax based on my home ZIP, as if I bought it down the street? That's where I'm a little confused.

    Any words of wisdom?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,200
    You aren't confused.. that is exactly how it works...

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  • chris22chris22 Member Posts: 4
    I just closed the deal on a 2005 TL w/ navi. After working two dealerships I've arrived at $32,400 + TTL. I also was able to get them to throw in the wheel locks. I'm not even sure what they do but everyone on the board here seemed to be getting them thrown in and I didn't want to feel left out ;).The dealer also tried to get me with a high finance rate even though my credit is excellent. Their first offer was at 5.77% and I told them they needed to come down. Ten minutes later they called me back and said they would make an "exception" and gave me 3.9%. For the sake of those that don't know: THE INTEREST RATE IS NEGOTIABLE if your credit can back it up. Don't accept the dealer giving you a low price and then make it up by slapping you with a high interest rate!!! Thanks to everyone here who posted their price. Chris
  • schallaschalla Member Posts: 2
    charliebear,
    I 'am in the market for a 2005 TL (black, auto & non-navi). Can you tell me what kind of TL you got from continental acura and what price did you pay. I would like to purchase my TL this weekend and I live in NW suburbs of chicago.

    Thanks in advance.
  • newton1930newton1930 Member Posts: 1
    Your post was very helpful to me as I am just starting to look for a TL in the San Diego area. You have given a total price from Cerritos Acura of $34,400. I assume that the destination charge was included in that price. Could you verify that?

    Thanks
  • superdogsuperdog Member Posts: 37
    Chris,

    Which dealership did you deal with? Thanks.
  • rk2005rk2005 Member Posts: 3
    Hi,

    I have a lease in works.

    Details:

    MSRP 33,670
    Negotiated price 31,000
    MF 0.0025
    36 months
    12k/year
    60% residual
    0 down
    465/month

    This includes acquisition fee of $595, which I was told is non-negotiable

    anyone have any thoughts? is the acquisition fee non-negotiable? is the MF negotiable at all.

    is this a good deal?

    appreciate any input.
  • superdogsuperdog Member Posts: 37
    TL w/nav 32,400 neg price. (thanks Chris for your post, I took that info and found the same deal)

    No cap cost reduction
    Upfront = bank fee 950, 1st month, plates
    Tax rolled in to monthly lease payment = $479
    27 month lease thru Han financing
    400 termination fee

    The above #s are solid and only thing we're talking about now is wheel locks and mats being thrown in. After talking to 2 other dealers..this 3rd is so easy and straight forward( dealing directly with the general manager of the place - really cool guy)
  • jason9jason9 Member Posts: 1
    rk2005,

    What dealer was offering this deal? I'm up in Dallas and have just started my TL search. McDavid told me the best they'd do for a 3.2TL (in stock mind you so I don't know if I'd even get my color) w/o navi was $31800. I suggested $31k as nice meeting point and then I was going to discuss leasing but internet mgr said $31800 was best and final.
  • chris22chris22 Member Posts: 4
    Acura of Bedford Hills. Nice salesmen and manager . Not too pushy. That being said, I just got a counter offer from Acura of Westchester in Larchmont for the TL w/ navi at $31,995!! Has anyone seen one go for that low?
  • al57al57 Member Posts: 67
    i have started the process at curry acura in scarsdale and mentioned that i will deal in about 3 months,have gotten 1 phone call per day about car and they do not give up..salesperson was clueless..acura of westchester and bedford sound like the people to deal with..were youre prices with destination and what financing did you receive
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    Jason9,

    There's lots of Acura dealerships here in the DFW area. Send emails to the internet managers at several and see if you get a better bid.

    Best wishes.
  • ceratedcerated Member Posts: 2
    I've been shopping the internet classifieds for a 2003 TL Type-S and I'm seeing lots of certified Pre-owned and Private sellers. There's typicaly a 2-3K difference in price (private sellers being less expensive of course). What are anyone's throughts on the value of the certified Pre-owned warranty offered by Acura? Is it worth the extra cost?
  • cafpafcafpaf Member Posts: 65
    Just as soon as my current lease expires in a few weeks, I will be picking up my new auto TL without Nav. This is a straight cash sale not a lease and I got a price of $31,500 plus tax and license. I thought that was good. As least as far as this purchase is concerned, I am glad that I do not live in California.
  • cafpafcafpaf Member Posts: 65
    I don't know what the laws are where your are, but I think that your assesment is correct. I live in Pittsburgh and a few years ago I bought a Lexus in Akron, OH because I was fed up with the local Lexus folks. They did exactly what you said and when I registered the car, I paid the PA sales tax and that was that.

    I would bet that you Acura dealer you are considering has done it many times.
  • tobykrammertobykrammer Member Posts: 3
    cafpaf,
    What Acura dealer gave you this price. Sounds like a pretty reasonable price for the Pittsburgh area!
    toby
  • ilfdilfd Member Posts: 2
    Just a quick note, I purchased a 05 TL non-navi at McGrath Acura for 30,750.00 which included the protection package. Add TTL and Doc Fee. I could also get that same deal a Libertyville. McGrath has been super to deal with. I dealt with their internet salesmen. Sorry, can't give his name on Edmunds, but you can find it on McGraths Website.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    Which McGrath Acura store? I asked the internet guy at McGrath Westmont for a lease quote and he never responded. The sales guy at the Morton Grove store was very nice but we haven't got to the offer/negotiating stage yet.
  • lotusflalotusfla Member Posts: 22
    I am itching to pull the trigger this weekend. I've gotten several quotes from Florida dealers for a non-navi for $31,250 incl. destination but they add $500 dealers fee for an out the door price including taxes of $34K. Acura of Orange Park quoted $30,900 plus $500 dealer fees, tax & title for an out the door price of $33463.17. I gave them a deposit.
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