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We went for the anthracite with quartz. We contemplated the blue, but could not find a car to see 'in the flesh', and did not want to buy a color we had not seen. Final price $30,250 including all FL fees.
Salesman called me today and got I got the price of the 04 down another $800 and the 05 down to 31,500.
Funny thing is the lines of bullship this guy is giving me. He said 31.5 is the best he can do. Thats 500 over invoice (including the $615 delivery). When I told him that his invoice was 30,164 and delivery 615 for a total of 30,779 and 500 over that is 31,229 he said that the car had $300 worth of dealer installed options: Wheel locks and trunk mat (there was a third thing, but I was too busy laughing to myself to remember what it was). He also told me that the 30,164 invoice price INCLUDED the 3% holdback!
Now my current 94 EX Honda has locking wheels. Cant imagine that on an 05 TL its a dealer installed option. And the trunk mat, he can keep it.
What Im shootin for is Invoice. If I can get that Ill be happy.
Also thanks for the heads up on the document fee. This guy is untrustable. The dealers website says that he is the sales manager, but he told me he is no longer in that postion and is just a salesman. However when we talk price, hes not clearing it with anyone. Today I talked to him by cell from his house, and he lowered the price. Additionally he took me into his office (the same one I sat in last year when I talked to the sales manager about my wifes MDX) and handed me a card from his desk that said "sales manager." I dont know what gives with this charade but I dont trust him.
Thanks guys.
I suggest if you are in the market for an '05 TL, get it now while they are still available. I doubt the prices will get much better. They will never be below invoice...the dealers will always find someone to buy a car for invoice + $500...
Pricing:-
2006 TL 5-Speed Automatic Starts at $33,325
2006 TL 6-Speed Manual Starts at $33,325
2006 TL 5-Speed Automatic with Navigation System Starts at $35,325
2006 TL 6-Speed Manual with Navigation System Starts at $35,325
2006 TL 6-Speed Manual with High Performance Tires Starts at $33,525
2006 TL 6-Speed Manual with High Performance Tires and Navigation System Starts at $35,525
Destination: $615.00
Whats up with that?
Your Acura dealer should be able to locate one if any are available....
I guess I have to really decide soon. I've been trying to get quotes and the best one I've gotten is $35,728 OTD.
Anyone gotten a better price in So Cal for a TL w/ navi? If so, please let me know where
As I understand it, that's almost right. My understanding is that the SAE standard is not new, it's just that all manufacturers are now being asked/required to apply it (or perhaps get independent testing conforming to it), rather than fudge their own numbers.
Which brings me to a point of contention I have had with Acura for awhile. They have consistently "fudged" their horsepower numbers high. Every adjustment for 2006 is DOWN. None are up. As embarassing as it is to admit, Ford and GM are actually revising some of their numbers upward. And when I test drove a 225 horsepower 330i back to back with the TL in 2004, it was clearly as quick or quicker, in spite of a supposedly 45 hp disadvantage. I knew back then that the TL, nice as the car was and is, did not have 80 more horsepower than my 1995 Nissan Maxima.
I do not rely upon published horsepower ratings to influence my car purchase decisions. That's what test drives are for. But I still find it offensive that a company with the reputation of Acura is willing to risk it by overstating their horsepower ratings. What else might this lack of integrity lead to? Perhaps claim automatic transmission flaws are fixed when they are not??
I have been, and currently remain, a fan of Acura. But I am not a dumb or blind fan, and it would be good for them to realize that this kind of marketing puffery doesn't engender consumer confidence.
I recently purchase a '05 TL with navigation (black on black) from Santa Monica Acura for $31,490 including dest fees and mud guards. My OTD was $34,094. I interacted with their internet sales rep. Keyes in Van Nuys was willing to match but did not have the color combo.
There were several SoCal posts about 1 month ago which really helped me in terms of negotiating for such a low price - check the board for details as many people posted their price quotes from all SoCal dealers. Good luck...
Im picking up an 05 Red/parchment non navi tonight. It breaks down like this:
1) Invoice: $30,164
2) Dealer installed options (Splash guards, wheel locks, trunk mat): $237
3) Delivery $615
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4) Total: $31016
So I got it for $16 under invoice.
Good luck with your search.
Oh and heres a link to the splash guards:
link title
utc2, when did you get your TL? that's a great deal! i read all the SoCal pricing posts and i think the lowest price from one with navi is $34,641. this person said they bought theirs from glendale.
i've requested quotes from a lot of dealers and they all seem to be giving $35K+ OTD. i am getting the feeling that maybe i waited too long :confuse:
like liferules mentioned before, the TLs are becoming more limited. i guess i was just thinking (hoping) that the prices will go down because the 06 models are in.
check with acura of orange park in jacksonville. great deals and good people to deal with, i.e. if you are willing to drive to jacksonville. hope this helps.
I purchased on 9/1. I was also playing the waiting game that you are playing but soon learned the color combo I wanted was tough to come by so I jumped on a deal that was hard to pass up. Refer to message #4379 for details. There was a flurry of posts around that time from SoCal buyers that really helped me. Here is a cut and paste of my message and the quotes I received. Good luck again. My advice would be to write Santa Monica and Keyes and tell them you are looking for a quote of about $31,500 w/ dest fees. Be very detailed in your message in terms of what you want. They will likely go for it if they have the car on their lot. It was a very painless experience dealing with the internet guys.
"Cush (SD) - $34,199
Cush (Escondido) - stated they called me (in their emails) but never did
Norm Reeves (Temecula) - $32,855
Santa Monica - as above
Keyes (Van Nuys)- did price match but for over a week and to this datedid not have the color combo in stock
Cerritos - could not match
Tustin - could not match
Gold Coast (Ventura) - could not match
Weir Canyon (Anaheim) - $32,599
Acura 101 (Calabasas) - never returned my email
Van Nuys and Santa Monica turned out to be the cheapest and this is consistent with other posts."
Vrsc,
The splash guards personally look very nice on the darker cars as they are black. I have them on my nighthawk black Tl and love them. They tend to stand out a bit too much on lighter colors. I've seen posts on other forums from people who painted them to match their cars. Hope that helps.
Sorry for the long post all....
well, i am going to keep trying and hopefully will be able to get my TL by the end of the month!
The key to remember is don't rely on just working with the lowest price dealer indicated...as the low cost dealer leadership keeps shifting. The key is to cast a wide net....and keep working away.
However...San Diego is horrible! Their prices are consistently $1.5k off of the pricing if you drove one hour....which makes the commute worth it.
utc2....great job in assisting ....great help.
i'm both excited and a little scared about this purchase. this is going to be my first "new" car. i LOVE my car right now but it's older ('92 accord). still works but starting to have problems. i'm also not very knowledgable when it comes to cars :confuse:
i actually started requesting quotes from dealers back in late june just to get an idea of the prices. now i am back at it again and i've sent out a lot of requests even to AZ. san diego prices are ridiculous! i remember going to a local dealership and the price they quoted me was $37K....and that was just invoice!
i really appreciate all the input (delmar1 & utc2 especially
sorry for the long post
Once you get some bids...don't dillute yourself too much as you need to focus on a handful to get additional price concessions.
Glad you are excited about your first 'new' car purchase. Enjoy the Acura buying experience...which should be better than dealing with many other makes.
As for the San Diego pricing...I feel sorry for those that do buy from those dealers.
Suggestions most welcome!
Agree with delmar1 - cast a wide net and see what happens. If you haven't noticed yet he's an Acura guru. I emailed Keyes and Santa Monica Acura shortly after I read posts from other that they purchased for about $31,500 (auto w/ navi). In fact, some people paid even less. The 1st email was from SMA stating "We can sell it for $31,499" and Keyes email was "We have 3 in stock when do you want to pick it up." I waited 2 days and poof they were gone - black on black is a popular combo I guess.
Good luck again. We love our car and with its excellent resell value take comfort in knowing that you are making a good investment. Check out the posts from about #4710 - #4740 for other SoCal experiences. The internet route is a great way to go and saved me about $1000 below invoice.
I've kept an eye on this board b/c I'm curious to see what kind of deals people are getting on '06's. Any buyers yet?
I've read on a car buying guide website also that Christmas time is a good time to buy new cars for 2 reasons:
1. It's the end of the month AND year
2. Less consumers....people are too concentrated on buying gifts rather than cars.
I'm curious also what people are paying for the '06 models. I've read on other forums where people have ordered their '06 TLs and expect to get them in early Oct. but they didn't mention the price they paid.
Marin Acura - $32,500.00 (a little to far for me -- this is in the Bay Area)
Santa Monica Acura - $32,699.00
Acura of Mission Viejo - $32,735.00
Downey Acura - $32,888.00
South Coast Acura - $32,895.00
Tustin Acura - $32,900.00
Acura 101 West - $32,995.00
Cerritos Acura - $33,154.00
Bell Acura - $34,159.00
Power Acura South Bay - $36,669.00
I hope this helps, Superior is a great Dealer. Good Luck
I'm happy for those people out there who have positive experiences with internet buying but I am now very skeptical. I did end up buying an 05 at $33,300 + 199 dealer handling. Still too much in my book but not many options here in Denver! Love my new TL :P
Terry.
I finally got my TL with nav from Accura of Boston and i just love this car. The technology in this car is amazing. It will take a while for me to learn. I called up a lot of other dealers in the new england area and none of them would be willing to match the price that Accura of Boston offered me $32450 including documentation and lifetime inspection sticker. Bought my car right on the phone. It was a very smooth experience with Accura of Boston. I was in and out of the dealership in an hour and a half. The sales rep Justin was very good and very profesional. My otd was 32450+1622.5(sales tax)+$83(Registration and new Plates) = $34155.5.
Ritesh
For me, I do not like to own a "new" car when the odo already has 3 digits and it doesn't really have the new car smell. We purchased a model year end car like that, not by choice, but because my wife's car had a problem and she didn't want to waste time or money to fix it. Luckily, the "new" car only had 50 miles, and it has been a very reliable one for the past 8 years. We think we can keep it for at least 2 more years or when the odo hits 60k miles, whichever comes earlier.
Karen Radley - $32,881.90 (out the door)
Rosenthal - $33,024.10 (out the door)
Criswell - $32,322.97 (out the door)
Norris - $32,993.35 (out the door)
Performance - $32,802 (out the door)
Hall (VA Beach) - $32,800 (out the door)
Hall (Newport News) - $34,081 (out the door)
Is anyone doing any better out there? All of these prices are the first ones they offered so I am assuming they will come down some but not much.
By the way, other dealerships have told me they can give me a great deal but I have to call them on the phone or meet them in person. I'm only interested in cutting the deal through the net.
Wow...you really have patience to wait until December! Really...I see buying cars is like a merry-go-round. Got to jump onboard some at some point. And...know that you cannot always get the best deal...but you want a fair deal. If you get a quote and offer that is reasonable and within your expectations...I would jump on it.
Good luck.
I am with UTC....interested in seeing what you folks do with your purchase of the 2006...along with what the 2005s are going for.
After lurking around here for a while, I took the plunge and got a desert mist/ebony TL with the protection package for the wife (she liked that color) for 32 K + fees for a total of $35300 from Marin Acura in the CA Bay area. Does that sound like a good deal?
The finance guy said that I cannot buy an extended warranty with the same coverage at a later point. I did take the extended warranty for 8yr/100K for $1300. I can cancel it within 60 days. What do you guys think? Is it possible to buy this warranty cheaper at a later point before MFG warranty expires. I wasn't going to buy it but since I have an option to cancel within 60 days, I took the plunge. Any advice on this is appreciated.
delmar1, I agree with you 100%. If you think that a deal is fair(not the best and not the worst) and you are getting everything you want in a car, get it.
Tee
I still receive emails from dealerships I emailed back in March, and received some really nice bids w/in the 1st 2-3 months...
They can also be purchased from any Acura dealer, so you might want to Google around. The prices I was quoted over the internet were a few hundred less than my dealer offered at the time aI purchased the car. I thought the longest warranty they offered was 7 years / 100k miles. Did you buy an Acura Care warranty for 8 years / 100k miles. If so, $1,300 doesn't sound like too bad of a price, but I would shop around nonetheless. And you might still want to consider banking your money for the next two years before buying the warranty. I'm coming up on 20,000 miles on my 2004 TL 6-speed, so I will need to make a decsion soon myself.
I've been reading the different boards for the past month, and I want to say Thanks! to everyone for all of their help. I couldn't really find the color I wanted, Red w/Parch, in the 2005 model. My local dealer knew I was looking and that price was a big factor. I have put a deposit down on a 2006 TL w/ Navi for $500 over invoice that should be due at the end of October. I can get excited now.
I believe my dealer will honor his written quote but if I have any suprises I will let you know. BTW I also get "tires for life".
Again, Thanks for all the input, you've been really helpful.
Wow! $500 over invoice on an '06! I am incredulous. That's a great deal. Try to get it in writing with all the specifics so they can't pull any last minute changes on you... If you have a direct written agreement with all the specifics (year, nav or no nav, fees, and total) you will have more "weight" should you need to argue the price with the GM...
I believe you win the gold star for 1st '06 price posted...
Congrats!
I have the quote written as $500 over invoice with my $1000 deposit receipt. I also was quoted the price I asked for on the rear spoiler (installed $604) and the mud guards, all season mats, and trunk tray for $246.84. I originally had a $500 over deal on a 2005 but he couldn't come up with a color I could live with. I think he knew I had another dealer who had a car combo that I liked. He told me it wouldn't cost me much more for a 2006 , so I asked for the same deal.
I hope that I won't be disappointed.
Terry.
The invoice for the '06 with NAV is probably around $32,800, including destination; for the '06 without NAV, it's about 30,979, including destination. These are rough figures because I don't think invoice figures have been released yet for the '06.
Theoretically, if you can average 9%/yr. return for 8 years, you'll double your $1300. Investing conservatively in today's climate won't get you 9% unfortunately. I've never had an extended warranty and, (I know I'm lucky. Knock wood!) never needed one. And I've owned a Chrysler and a Saab! (loved 'em both. At 80,000+ miles, Saab needed some work, but nowhere near $1300 worth...).
Good luck. Maybe check the Acura website regarding buying the extended warranty, when you can purchase. Don't trust the finance guy, he knows if you don't buy it at that moment, you probably won't buy...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I just spoke to my salesman and he assures me that they are "above board" on this deal. He does not have an invoice yet so he can not give me an exact price. Previously we agreed on the invoice price of the 05 and today he assured me again, that the only increase in price would be the increase in the 2006 model , which I told him I expected it to be $225. I will be pleasantly suprised if there are no suprises, and will enjoy my TL even more if this deal goes through. We' ll see.
I guess I'll just have to trust my salesman.
I have to ask - What dealer and where?
thx