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2016 BMW 328i xDrive Sedan
Exterior: Jet Black
Interior: Black Dakota Leather with Dark Oyster highlight
Trim: Burl Walnut Wood Trim with Pearl Gloss Chrome highlight
Wheels: 17" Light Alloy Wheels Double-spoke Style 392 with All-Season Tires (17x7.5, 225/50 R17) (Std)
Transmission: Sport automatic transmission with shift paddles
Cold Weather Pkg
Premium Package
Driver Assistance Package
Driver Assistance Plus (Must select: ZDA; Req. 609)
Technology Package
Lighting Package (Must select: ZPP)
Moonroof (included / no charge)
Heated front seats (included / no charge)
Side and Top View Cameras (Req. ZDA) (included / no charge)
Navigation system (included / no charge)
MSRP: $52,245.00
Invoice (according to TrueCar.com): $49,140.00
Selling Price: $47,250.00
MF: 0.00132
Residual: 60%
Taxes are rolled into the payment
Option Credit: Included
College Rebate: Included
Monthly payment: $601.15
8.875% NYS Tax included in payments.
First Payment: $601.15
+ Security: $0.00
+ Cap Red: $0.00
+ Rebate Cap Red: $1,000.00
+ Tax on Cap Red: $88.75
+ Acquisition Fee: $925.00
+ DMV Fees: $0.00
+ Tire Fee: $10.00
+ Insp Fee: $10.00
+ Doc Fee: $75.00
+ Other Fees: $0.00
+ Tax on Fees: $88.75
- Rebate: $1,000.00
= Cash Due on Lease: $1,798.65
- Trade Equity to COD: $0.00
= Total Cash Due: $1,798.65
- Deposit: $0.00
= Cash on Delivery: $1,798.65
Plus DMV Fees ($70-75 I was told to transfer my plates)
Based on the advice from here, I plan to also roll in the acquisition fees. Once again the "adjusted cap cost" is no where to be found... my salesman is playing dumb or has no idea what i'm talking about. I hope with the above numbers, someone can tell me if this is a good deal or not.
My questions are:
1) Is this a solid deal? If not, where/what should I be negotiating?
2) What is the Rebate Cap Red? Why is $1000 being added, then taxed, and then $1000 being deducted?
3) Any other ways to improve this deal?
We usually order two vehicles in March. But salesman called me and said there's a jump ahead program where we don't have to pay two months payments. My husband said see what the numbers look like. As always, we only want the premium package, cold weather package, heated front and rear seats, and heated steering wheel.
Initially we wanted the 12k. They gave us a price of $449. Sounded good, I agreed. (I didn't research this). At delivery, my husband and I realized that we don't use the 12K (the lease we were giving back was 12k and we only put in 29,859K) so we asked to go 10k.
Then they convinced us the run flat tire insurance, which jumped from $1,200 to $1,600+, (is that negotiable?) and an interior insurance for $499. ( I didn't want the interior insurance because that was free for the 2014 X3 that we still currently have.) After much conversation, and convincing we decided to accept it. Only because the interior is a light beige. (btw- never again will we go with a beige, light interior) Bottom line our monthly payment jumped to $502.00). That's really high! I feel they didn't do much for us. Question is, what should our monthly payment have been? I don't know the MF or Residual. I don't know if they used our BMW loyalty - ? ? ? ? ?
Oh, and the other 328xi that we picked up this week is the same as ours, except for the color. (black) We again had a $449 payment with 12k (same vehicle as the beige interior). My daughter also didn't use up her 12k miles on her old vehicle (23,000 total). She asked to change to 10k. Her monthly payment is $436.00.
I don't know the MF or residual for either. Again, I didn't do my research here as I have always done. And the jump ahead program.......two months no payments. Our 1st payment is due April.
The dealer also told us to call BMW Financial and ask them if we get any credit for the miles we never used. Is that accurate?
Please let me know.
Thank you so much.
Shouldn't be anything else in the CAP cost, because they are showing the other costs as being paid upfront.
1) Looks good. You are over 7% under MSRP, before deducting the $1000 rebate. No markups to the money factor or extraneous charges that I can see.
2) It's convoluted, because the rebate has to be taxed. It's added once, but it's subtracted twice. Once in the selling price of the car, and again as a credit on amount due at signing. You are definitely not giving it back.
3) Only way to move it lower is to ask for a lower selling price. Not sure they have any room, but you can ask.
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Going from 12K/yr to 10K/yr raises the residual by 1%, which saves $13-$15/mo.
Not doing the research can be expensive. I can't tell you what your monthly payment should have been, because you really don't have any of the details or numbers.
I have heard of credit for unused miles from BMWFS, but I don't have any details. I would do as your dealer suggested and call them. But, doing a pull-ahead program may have negated that.
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If I sign now, i'm signing at the current MF and Residuals. What happens if the MF decreases or the Residual increases by the time I pick up the car? (I was given an estimated 8-10 week build time) Am I stuck at the worse rates or can I get the better rates?
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MSRP 50,295
Savings - $4121
Cap Cost - $46174
Sales Tax $1426
Dealer Fees - $529
Total Price - $48,129.04
Residual 30,679.95 (61%)
Drive Off - $2000
Monthly Payment - $578.12
Curious what you guys think on this deal. Thanks in advance.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2015 Demo with 2998 miles
MSRP : 45,860
Internet Price: 38,240
Drive off: 4775
36/12 : $359/month includes taxes, fees
Residual 57% - 25,539
Premium package
Drivers assistance
Navigation with touchpad
Mineral white exterior/black dakota leather interior
The MSRP was $46,595. and the sale price given was $41,340.93. Not including the stupid $599.99 for the interior "Environmental Protection", the $1,699 for the Rim & Tire Protection, and the Aquisition fee of $925.00. Total of all this is $44,564.92 . Originally, it was 12k @$449.00 . Now it shot up to $514.oo
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What is the residual and MF for a 2016 328i for 10K/36 month
Thank you kindly
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During February 2016.
thank you, great forum.
If it's a demo or loaner vehicle that hasn't been titled, then new car lease rates would apply, subject to adjustment for the miles.
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He's trying to book a sale in February.
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And neither does the dealer.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
First Payment: $548.20
+ Security: $0.00
+ Cap Red: $82.81
+ Tax on Cap Red: $6.11
+ Acquisition Fee: $925.00
+ DMV Fees: $200.00
+ Tire Fee: $12.50
+ Insp Fee: $10.00
+ Doc Fee: $75.00
+ Other Fees: $0.00
+ Tax on Fees: $73.75
= Cash Due on Lease: $1,933.37
- Trade Equity to COD: $0.00
= Total Cash Due: $1,933.37
- Deposit: $0.00
= Cash on Delivery: $1,933.37
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MSRP: $45795
Selling Price: $42325 (includes 3395 discount from MSRP + 1000 loyalty cash and rolled in 925 acquisition fee)
Resid: 61%
MF: 0.00132
$517/month including tax in NC for a 36/10 lease.
they are letting me put 5 MSDs of $500 each to reduce the MF to .00097 which would make my payment including the tax be $487
My question is: Is there any value of me putting any money down to reduce the cap cost at this point after I do the $2500 worth for 5 MSDs? I would like the monthly payment to be lower but not sure if that's the way to do it because I would be pre-paying some of the lease right?
Thanks in advance.
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36/15 lease numbers for the 2016 320i are .00132 and 61%, with $1000 option allowance.
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Looking to get the MF and Residual for March 2016 for a 340i. 36 Month lease with 10k and 12k miles per year. Thanks!
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MSRP: $58,445
Sale Price: $53,415
Acquisition Fee: $925
Vehicle Total: $54,340
36 MO/ 10k/year
Residual: 61%
MF: 0.00135
Cap Reduction: $1,500
Drive Off Fees: $1,337.82
Monthly: $644.67
Thoughts on deal? I know I should eliminate the Cap Reduction. How about sales price, etc? Is there any lease cash in March? Thanks!
We don't track selling prices, so I don't know if there is more of a discount available.
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You are about 6% off MSRP before subtracting the lease cash. That's decent. Not sure if you have any more room or not. With the numbers given and $1500 CCR, I get $597/mo.+tax., which looks pretty close.
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Also, is there any sort of markup on MF for European Delivery beyond base MF?
I know the MF is adjusted for ED, but can't remember the actual figure.
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Thanks
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