NYC Tax Rate is 8.625%
The $3000 up front includes 1st month, Portion of taxes, Fees & Insurance, and Cap Cost.
HI Kydfx:
I am bring offered the following deal on a 2016 GLE 4Matic. What do you think of the deal ?
MSRP: $60,710
Selling Price: Not sure
Cap Cost: $102
Taxes: $2039.82
Fees & Insurance: $210
1st Month: $648
Lease Term: 36
Miles: 12k
Total Cash Due up front: $3000.00
Need to know the selling price in order to model the payment. 56% residual and .00092 MF.
What state and tax rate is this? What is the full breakdown of the $3000 due up front?
Using the MSRP and selling prices, I get a payment of $628/mo + tax. If you're paying the taxes with the $3000 up front, then my guess is that the acquisition fee has been added to the selling price.
Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - and, if different than the selling price, ask them what's been added.
Can you share the current December MF & Residual for the 2016 GLE450 AMG?
Received an initial quote: MSRP: $81405 $1,000 off dealership incentive Cash Down: $2500 Taxes: Texas (which I believe is 6.25% of MSRP) Fees & Title: Unknown Lease Term: 36 Miles: 12k Monthly payment: $1402
I calculated with the previous MF of .00163 & 57% Residual before adding in taxes, and I'm about $400 less than what they quoted. Where do I add the tax amount when calculating?
Can you share the current December MF & Residual for the 2016 GLE450 AMG?
Received an initial quote: MSRP: $81405 $1,000 off dealership incentive Cash Down: $2500 Taxes: Texas (which I believe is 6.25% of MSRP) Fees & Title: Unknown Lease Term: 36 Miles: 12k Monthly payment: $1402
I calculated with the previous MF of .00163 & 57% Residual before adding in taxes, and I'm about $400 less than what they quoted. Where do I add the tax amount when calculating?
Seems like even with taxes, their MF is inflated.
.00163 MF and 57% residual is correct. Texas taxes selling price + any taxable fees (like acquisition fee). Add the tax to the CAP cost. Acquisition fee is $795, but dealer can mark it up as high as $1095.
So, you've probably got $6000 in costs to add to the CAP cost between tax and acquisition fee.
You should ask the dealer what money factor they are using, and what the NET CAP cost is.
The SUV will arrive in the next few days and now the salesperson is saying the MF will be .00092 + another .0005 (extra on top of buy rate) which makes the MF = 0.00142.
Is it common to add anything extra on top of buy rate ?
The SUV will arrive in the next few days and now the salesperson is saying the MF will be .00092 + another .0005 (extra on top of buy rate) which makes the MF = 0.00142.
Is it common to add anything extra on top of buy rate ?
Thanks much.
.00092 is indeed the 'buy rate' MF for the GLE350. Dealer can mark it up for extra profit; politely but firmly tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. And, start working with other MB dealers - it only takes one to meet your numbers.
What lease term and how many miles per year are you looking at?
What state is this? $5900 for up front costs is massive, unless you live somewhere where the sales tax is applied to the $60K selling price.
I got a deal for GLE 350 4WD today, the car is $61030. Dealer took care of my remaining 6 months lease payment. 10K/year, service A, $663/month. $1500 drive off. Do you think it's a good deal or it can be much better?
I got a deal for GLE 350 4WD today, the car is $61030. Dealer took care of my remaining 6 months lease payment. 10K/year, service A, $663/month. $1500 drive off. Do you think it's a good deal or it can be much better?
"Took care of"?
Is the $61,030 the MSRP or the cap cost? We would need to know both, along with the lease term, to evaluate the payment.
To al838, Did you have another MB vehicle that you were returning in early? If so, they are only taking car of one payment as there is a 5 payment lease accelerator program.
Sorry I didn't explain it clearly. I had a old lease car with 6 payments left. They put the 6th payment into 36 months. I am in CA, sales tax 8.75% this is my deal, I got the car on 12/28. Drive off : $1500 plus $6500 security deposit 10K/ year, 36 months. Service A . $602/ month.
Can't quite figure out which is better and should I continue to negotiate as the winter event ends on 1/4/2016.
is there an iPhone app for this ?
The residuals can't be different. 57% is for 36mo, 10K/yr. 56% is for 36mo, 12K/yr.
We'll use the 2nd one, as the lease variables are correct. Adding the $795 acq.fee to the CAP cost, the payment would be $760/mo.+tax., assuming the MSRP you gave in an earlier post. Due at signing would be 1st payment, title/registration fees.
Hi Moderator,
Need your advice.
For a 2016 GLE 350 4Matic, 15k/36 months dealer is quoting the below numbers and I am assuming its not a good deal.
Vehicle Price: $66,985.00
AutoNation Savings: - $4,689.00
AutoNation Price: $62,296.00
Amount due at signing: $5000
- 1st month payment: 813
- fees & insurance: 625
- upfront taxes: 453.88
- cap reduction (cash): $3107.33
MF dealer is using = 0.00142
Disposition fee: $595
Thanks much for your time.
Correct – not a good deal. Money factors marked up from the base of .00092, and we do not recommend making any sort of cap Cost reduction.
Selling Price : Requested still haven't received it , my calc is around $60,450
1st Month Payment: 739.07
Security Deposits: 0.00
Acquisition Fee: 795.00
Fees & Insurance: 400.00
Upfront Taxes: 2,444.39
Cap Reduction (Cash) :0.00
Total Inception Fees : 4,378.46
Good Deal? am looking to get selling price to $58,685 which will reduce montly to $690, then ill add $2000 downpayment to get around $632.46, but my total at incepetion comes out to $4,090.32... am i doing something wrong
Selling Price : Requested still haven't received it , my calc is around $60,450
1st Month Payment: 739.07
Security Deposits: 0.00
Acquisition Fee: 795.00
Fees & Insurance: 400.00
Upfront Taxes: 2,444.39
Cap Reduction (Cash) :0.00
Total Inception Fees : 4,378.46
Good Deal? am looking to get selling price to $58,685 which will reduce montly to $690, then ill add $2000 downpayment to get around $632.46, but my total at incepetion comes out to $3,927.46... am i doing something wrong
With your MSRP and assumed selling price, I get $741/mo, so pretty close to your calculations.
Every $1000 off the selling price (or down payment) will reduce your lease payment about $28/mo.
We do not recommend making a down payment on a lease (other that necessary up front costs), as that money would be at risk in the event the car was stolen or totaled.
I would please like know what the MF/Residual is for a 2016 AMG GLE 63s (Coupe) is?
Both for 24/10K and 36/10K.
Thank you very much! :-)
Standard MF and 64% / 59%
Thank you Michaell..
I am new to leasing and am not familiar with the standard MF. What number is that?
Thank you!
It's somewhere in the .0020-.0022 range.
Thank you very much!
Few more questions if you please mind answering.
1. What, if any is the "Rent Charge"?
2. Typical Acquisition Fee for MB?
3. Plan on doing a Single Payment lease with MB. I have a trade in worth ~$56K and I was wondering if it is a good idea to trade it in with the dealer?
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Please let me know if this is a good deal. $650x36x15k
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2016 GLE 300d - 36 months 10k miles
2016 GLE 300d - 36 months 12k miles
2016 GLE 300d - 48 months 10k miles
2016 GLE 300d - 48 months 12k miles
Thanks in advance.
52%/51% residual for 48 months
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Using the MSRP and selling prices, I get a payment of $628/mo + tax. If you're paying the taxes with the $3000 up front, then my guess is that the acquisition fee has been added to the selling price.
Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - and, if different than the selling price, ask them what's been added.
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Received an initial quote:
MSRP: $81405
$1,000 off dealership incentive
Cash Down: $2500
Taxes: Texas (which I believe is 6.25% of MSRP)
Fees & Title: Unknown
Lease Term: 36
Miles: 12k
Monthly payment: $1402
I calculated with the previous MF of .00163 & 57% Residual before adding in taxes, and I'm about $400 less than what they quoted. Where do I add the tax amount when calculating?
Seems like even with taxes, their MF is inflated.
Texas taxes selling price + any taxable fees (like acquisition fee). Add the tax to the CAP cost.
Acquisition fee is $795, but dealer can mark it up as high as $1095.
So, you've probably got $6000 in costs to add to the CAP cost between tax and acquisition fee.
You should ask the dealer what money factor they are using, and what the NET CAP cost is.
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Money Factor -.00092
Residual value -57%
- Earlier in the post I see the RV is 61% for 36/10. Could this be confirmed.
Perhaps the 61% was for a different model?
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Can I get money factor and residual for gle 350 4matic for 2 yr 10 k mile lease and 3 yr 10 k mile lease.
Thanks
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Can you guys please post what kind of MF's are you guys getting for a 2016 GLE 350 4Matic.
Hi Moderator,
Below is the info I have so far.
Vehicle Price = $66,985
After discounts = $60,296
Sales Tax + Registration + County fee + electronic filing + smog + document fee = $5929.43.
The SUV will arrive in the next few days and now the salesperson is saying the MF will be .00092 + another .0005 (extra on top of buy rate) which makes the MF = 0.00142.
Is it common to add anything extra on top of buy rate ?
Thanks much.
What lease term and how many miles per year are you looking at?
What state is this? $5900 for up front costs is massive, unless you live somewhere where the sales tax is applied to the $60K selling price.
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- I am looking got a 36 month, 15K/Year lease term.
- State = California
Can you provide MF & Residual for a 2016 GLE 350 4matic.
36x15
36x12
30x15
30x12
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I got a deal for GLE 350 4WD today, the car is $61030. Dealer took care of my remaining 6 months lease payment. 10K/year, service A, $663/month. $1500 drive off. Do you think it's a good deal or it can be much better?
Is the $61,030 the MSRP or the cap cost? We would need to know both, along with the lease term, to evaluate the payment.
Also, what state and tax rate is this?
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Did you have another MB vehicle that you were returning in early? If so, they are only taking car of one payment as there is a 5 payment lease accelerator program.
this is my deal, I got the car on 12/28.
Drive off : $1500 plus $6500 security deposit
10K/ year, 36 months. Service A . $602/ month.
2016 GLE350W4 $53,600
SUBTOTAL $60,105
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $61,030
Can I get the MF and Residual for 2016 GLE 350 - NON 4 MATIC? 36/mo 15k miles?
Thanks,
BAN
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here is a lease number I got on
2016 gle350
3year / 12kmiles per year
This does not look like a good deal,
i only want to put down minimum
can someone suggest on the numbers? Thank you
Can't help you with selling prices, but I agree that $7000 to start is too much.
Your offer is not a good deal.
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I got 2 offer on 68K MSRP
3yr/12k miles,
1) Sell $60903,Residual: $57% MF: 0.00090, $5000 down, $720/month
2) Sell $61500,Residual: $56% MF: 0.00092, $1000 down, $842/month (include 1st year maintenance service)
Can't quite figure out which is better and should I continue to negotiate as the winter event ends on 1/4/2016.
is there an iPhone app for this ?
We'll use the 2nd one, as the lease variables are correct.
Adding the $795 acq.fee to the CAP cost, the payment would be $760/mo.+tax., assuming the MSRP you gave in an earlier post.
Due at signing would be 1st payment, title/registration fees.
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GLE 350 SUV
36mo, 12K
36 mo, 15K
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GLE 350 4 matic : 36/10 ?
GLE 400 4 matic : 36/10 ?
Thank you .
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Need your advice.
For a 2016 GLE 350 4Matic, 15k/36 months dealer is quoting the below numbers and I am assuming its not a good deal.
Vehicle Price: $66,985.00
AutoNation Savings: - $4,689.00
AutoNation Price: $62,296.00
Amount due at signing: $5000
- 1st month payment: 813
- fees & insurance: 625
- upfront taxes: 453.88
- cap reduction (cash): $3107.33
MF dealer is using = 0.00142
Disposition fee: $595
Thanks much for your time.
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What's the Residual/MF for GLE350 4Matic? 36/15k?
Thanks!
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What's the Residual/MF for GLE350 4Matic? 36/10k? And regular GLE350 ?
Thank you
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I would please like know what the MF/Residual is for a 2016 AMG GLE 63s (Coupe) is?
Both for 24/10K and 36/10K.
Thank you very much! :-)
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Selling Price : Requested still haven't received it , my calc is around $60,450
1st Month Payment: 739.07
Security Deposits: 0.00
Acquisition Fee: 795.00
Fees & Insurance: 400.00
Upfront Taxes: 2,444.39
Cap Reduction (Cash) :0.00
Total Inception Fees : 4,378.46
Good Deal? am looking to get selling price to $58,685 which will reduce montly to $690, then ill add $2000 downpayment to get around $632.46, but my total at incepetion comes out to $4,090.32... am i doing something wrong
Every $1000 off the selling price (or down payment) will reduce your lease payment about $28/mo.
We do not recommend making a down payment on a lease (other that necessary up front costs), as that money would be at risk in the event the car was stolen or totaled.
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Thank you Michaell..
I am new to leasing and am not familiar with the standard MF. What number is that?
Thank you!
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Thank you very much!
Few more questions if you please mind answering.
1. What, if any is the "Rent Charge"?
2. Typical Acquisition Fee for MB?
3. Plan on doing a Single Payment lease with MB. I have a trade in worth ~$56K and I was wondering if it is a good idea to trade it in with the dealer?
Thank you again!