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2016 Jeep Wrangler Lease Questions

MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498
edited October 2015 in Jeep
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  • Hello! Looking for lease rates (mf/residual) for the 2016 Jeep Wrangler Sport 3 years/10K miles. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498

    Hello! Looking for lease rates (mf/residual) for the 2016 Jeep Wrangler Sport 3 years/10K miles. Thank you!

    2 door or 4 door?

    BTW, current Jeep numbers expire today ... new numbers to be released tomorrow. Hopefully we'll see them in the next day or two.

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  • Hi there Michaell - 2 door please. I actually got a quote (that I think was ridiculous but maybe isn't) for a 2015 Jeep Wrangler Sport 36mo/10K per year (they said 2015's are leasing better than 2016s) - 6.3% interest rate (.002625 mf, he said they deal in interest rates not money factor) and 65% residual. Residual seems good (I think) but that interest rate seems crazy to me. Thanks for your insight!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854

    Hi there Michaell - 2 door please. I actually got a quote (that I think was ridiculous but maybe isn't) for a 2015 Jeep Wrangler Sport 36mo/10K per year (they said 2015's are leasing better than 2016s) - 6.3% interest rate (.002625 mf, he said they deal in interest rates not money factor) and 65% residual. Residual seems good (I think) but that interest rate seems crazy to me. Thanks for your insight!

    That looks like an ALLY bank lease.. we don't have their numbers.

    Chrysler Capital:
    2015 Sport
    Standard MF (about .0020) and 58% residual for 36/10.

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  • Thanks Kyfdx - much appreciated
  • Can you please provide residual figures for a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock
    36/10
    39/10
    36/12
    39/12

    Thank you in advance!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854

    Can you please provide residual figures for a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock
    36/10
    39/10
    36/12
    39/12

    Thank you in advance!

    Standard MF and 64%/63%/63%/62% residual

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  • Thank you! What is the MF and Residual for a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4x4 SUV? I was quoted by the dealer MSRP 31620 Sales Price: $31040 36/10 @ $430 (all in)
  • May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    ashir21 said:

    Thank you! What is the MF and Residual for a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4x4 SUV? I was quoted by the dealer MSRP 31620 Sales Price: $31040 36/10 @ $430 (all in)

    2 door? Standard MF and 58% residual

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual

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  • kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual
    thanks! Will I be able to get the acquisition fee waived?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    billboss said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual
    thanks! Will I be able to get the acquisition fee waived?
    Yes.. Chrysler Capital acquisition fee is waived on all 2016 Wranglers.

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  • kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual
    thanks! Will I be able to get the acquisition fee waived?
    Yes.. Chrysler Capital acquisition fee is waived on all 2016 Wranglers.
    Are the residuals/MF different in January? Also, are there any new incentives/waived acquisition fee?

    Looking for Unlimited Sport S, Sahara, and Rubicon models. 36/10 please in SoCal.

    Thank you
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual
    thanks! Will I be able to get the acquisition fee waived?
    Yes.. Chrysler Capital acquisition fee is waived on all 2016 Wranglers.
    Are the residuals/MF different in January? Also, are there any new incentives/waived acquisition fee?

    Looking for Unlimited Sport S, Sahara, and Rubicon models. 36/10 please in SoCal.

    Thank you
    New program starts tomorrow... should have numbers later this week

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

    Edmunds Moderator

  • kyfdx said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual
    thanks! Will I be able to get the acquisition fee waived?
    Yes.. Chrysler Capital acquisition fee is waived on all 2016 Wranglers.
    Are the residuals/MF different in January? Also, are there any new incentives/waived acquisition fee?

    Looking for Unlimited Sport S, Sahara, and Rubicon models. 36/10 please in SoCal.

    Thank you
    New program starts tomorrow... should have numbers later this week
    Any updated numbers?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854

    kyfdx said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    kyfdx said:

    billboss said:

    May I please have MF and residual value for:

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear

    36m/10k & 24m/10k rates for Illinois. Any additional incentives would be great as well. Thank you in advance!!!

    Standard MF on all Wranglers

    2016 Wrangler Black Bear
    58%/65% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S
    72%/75% residual

    2016 Wrangler Unlimited Black Bear
    72%/75% residual
    thanks! Will I be able to get the acquisition fee waived?
    Yes.. Chrysler Capital acquisition fee is waived on all 2016 Wranglers.
    Are the residuals/MF different in January? Also, are there any new incentives/waived acquisition fee?

    Looking for Unlimited Sport S, Sahara, and Rubicon models. 36/10 please in SoCal.

    Thank you
    New program starts tomorrow... should have numbers later this week
    Any updated numbers?
    Standard MF

    Sport: 70% residual
    Rubicon: 62% residual
    Sahara: 63% residual

    Acquisition fee waived

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    Edmunds Moderator

  • DaveM87DaveM87 Posts: 106
    Hey can I get mf and residual for 2016 2 door wrangler sport s and unlimited wrangler sport s, 36/10?
    im in NY. Also rubicon for both 2 and 4 door thanks. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    davem1287 said:

    Hey can I get mf and residual for 2016 2 door wrangler sport s and unlimited wrangler sport s, 36/10?
    im in NY. Also rubicon for both 2 and 4 door thanks. 

    Standard MF for all

    Sport: 56% residual
    Rubicon: 55% residual

    Unlimited Sport: 70% residual
    Unlimited Rubicon: 62% residual

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  • jr99jr99 Posts: 8
    Do you have any lease numbers on a Willys Wheeler Unlimited 2016 4 door? Jeep.com doesnt even offer a lease term. Maybe they aren't leasing them at this time? thank you in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498
    edited January 2016
    jr99 said:

    Do you have any lease numbers on a Willys Wheeler Unlimited 2016 4 door? Jeep.com doesnt even offer a lease term. Maybe they aren't leasing them at this time? thank you in advance.

    Standard MF and 67% for 36/15. Acquisition fee waived.

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  • Looking for MF and residual on a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport, Rubi and Hard Rock please. (AZ)
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854

    Looking for MF and residual on a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport, Rubi and Hard Rock please. (AZ)

    Term and mileage?

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    Edmunds Moderator

  • kyfdx said:

    Looking for MF and residual on a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport, Rubi and Hard Rock please. (AZ)

    Term and mileage?
    Oops, sorry!

    standard 12k/15k and 24/36/39. Looking for best possible scenario. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854

    kyfdx said:

    Looking for MF and residual on a 2016 Wrangler Unlimited Sport, Rubi and Hard Rock please. (AZ)

    Term and mileage?
    Oops, sorry!

    standard 12k/15k and 24/36/39. Looking for best possible scenario. Thanks!
    Standard MF

    15K/yr
    Sport: 71%/67%/65% residual
    Rubicon/Hard Rock: 65%/63%/59%

    For 12K/yr, add 1% for 24 months or 2% for 36/39 month terms.

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  • deevedeeve Posts: 93
    edited January 2016
    Looked at a 2015...it was gone. :(

    Portland Oregon lease on 36/15 or 36/12 on an Unlimited Rubicon and Unlimited Willy's Wheeler W

    Curious if the residual gradually moves down the later in the model year you get.
    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    deeve said:

    Looked at a 2015...it was gone. :(

    Portland Oregon lease on 36/15 or 36/12 on an Unlimited Rubicon and Unlimited Willy's Wheeler W

    Curious if the residual gradually moves down the later in the model year you get.
    Thanks!

    Standard MF

    Rubicon: 59%/61% residual
    Willys: 67%/69% residual

    Generally, that's true, but specifically, anything can happen.

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  • deevedeeve Posts: 93
    Thanks..about where is the Standard MF at?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498
    deeve said:
    Thanks..about where is the Standard MF at?
    .00200 

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  • deevedeeve Posts: 93
    Thanks. sorry...one more questions. How do the 2door WIlly's Wheeler W stack up for residual on same numbers...35/12&15?

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    deeve said:

    Thanks. sorry...one more questions. How do the 2door WIlly's Wheeler W stack up for residual on same numbers...35/12&15?

    55%/53% residual

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  • deevedeeve Posts: 93
    edited January 2016
    Thanks. It's interesting you can lease a more expensive unlimited for less money than a 2dr. Curious if you knew which model of wrangler has the highest residual value?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    deeve said:

    Thanks. It's interesting you can lease a more expensive unlimited for less money than a 2dr. Curious if you knew which model of wrangler has the highest residual value?

    Any Unlimited but the Rubicon and Sahara are 67% residual for 36/15

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  • Forgive me if the residual is listed somewhere here for a 2016 Unlimited Freedom Edition but I did not see it. I assume like all the above the MF will be "standard". Looking for 36mo/15k. I know it's not the smartest way to buy a vehicle but if I intend to buy this Wrangler at lease end would it be beneficial if I negotiated a 36mo/12k lease even though I know I'll go over the allowed mileage?? What I am looking to do is drive down the capital cost with a larger down payment (which I also understand isn't the smartest idea), but getting low monthly payments in this lease is the only way I will be getting into a Wrangler. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498

    Forgive me if the residual is listed somewhere here for a 2016 Unlimited Freedom Edition but I did not see it. I assume like all the above the MF will be "standard". Looking for 36mo/15k. I know it's not the smartest way to buy a vehicle but if I intend to buy this Wrangler at lease end would it be beneficial if I negotiated a 36mo/12k lease even though I know I'll go over the allowed mileage?? What I am looking to do is drive down the capital cost with a larger down payment (which I also understand isn't the smartest idea), but getting low monthly payments in this lease is the only way I will be getting into a Wrangler. Thank you!

    Wranglers have never been - or will be - cheap to lease. The standard MF is around .00200, but we don't know the exact number and the dealer is free to mark it up for extra profit.

    The 36/15 residual for the Unlimited Freedom Edition is 67%.

    As you've noted, a down payment on a lease is not a good idea - you lose that money if the vehicle is stolen or totaled during the lease.

    And, leasing with the intention to buy is also not recommended. When you buy it after 3 years, you'll be taking out a loan on a 'used' vehicle, and the interest rates are going to be higher than if you simply bought it new.

    Leasing is not a way to get 'more' vehicle than you can normally afford ...

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  • Michaell said:

    Forgive me if the residual is listed somewhere here for a 2016 Unlimited Freedom Edition but I did not see it. I assume like all the above the MF will be "standard". Looking for 36mo/15k. I know it's not the smartest way to buy a vehicle but if I intend to buy this Wrangler at lease end would it be beneficial if I negotiated a 36mo/12k lease even though I know I'll go over the allowed mileage?? What I am looking to do is drive down the capital cost with a larger down payment (which I also understand isn't the smartest idea), but getting low monthly payments in this lease is the only way I will be getting into a Wrangler. Thank you!

    Wranglers have never been - or will be - cheap to lease. The standard MF is around .00200, but we don't know the exact number and the dealer is free to mark it up for extra profit.

    The 36/15 residual for the Unlimited Freedom Edition is 67%.

    As you've noted, a down payment on a lease is not a good idea - you lose that money if the vehicle is stolen or totaled during the lease.

    And, leasing with the intention to buy is also not recommended. When you buy it after 3 years, you'll be taking out a loan on a 'used' vehicle, and the interest rates are going to be higher than if you simply bought it new.

    Leasing is not a way to get 'more' vehicle than you can normally afford ...
    Yes, I understand all that you have commented on. I am in a peculiar situation where technically I am not going to be paying the monthly payment, plus I will also be "helped" with the upfront finances (down payment). Really at lease end is where I would take over financial responsibilities, whether I chose to lease again, or purchase the vehicle off of the lease will be the discussion roughly 3 years from now. LOL. Basically I've been given a budget and as long as I stay within those means, I can lease whatever "fits".
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498
    So

    Michaell said:

    Forgive me if the residual is listed somewhere here for a 2016 Unlimited Freedom Edition but I did not see it. I assume like all the above the MF will be "standard". Looking for 36mo/15k. I know it's not the smartest way to buy a vehicle but if I intend to buy this Wrangler at lease end would it be beneficial if I negotiated a 36mo/12k lease even though I know I'll go over the allowed mileage?? What I am looking to do is drive down the capital cost with a larger down payment (which I also understand isn't the smartest idea), but getting low monthly payments in this lease is the only way I will be getting into a Wrangler. Thank you!

    Wranglers have never been - or will be - cheap to lease. The standard MF is around .00200, but we don't know the exact number and the dealer is free to mark it up for extra profit.

    The 36/15 residual for the Unlimited Freedom Edition is 67%.

    As you've noted, a down payment on a lease is not a good idea - you lose that money if the vehicle is stolen or totaled during the lease.

    And, leasing with the intention to buy is also not recommended. When you buy it after 3 years, you'll be taking out a loan on a 'used' vehicle, and the interest rates are going to be higher than if you simply bought it new.

    Leasing is not a way to get 'more' vehicle than you can normally afford ...
    Yes, I understand all that you have commented on. I am in a peculiar situation where technically I am not going to be paying the monthly payment, plus I will also be "helped" with the upfront finances (down payment). Really at lease end is where I would take over financial responsibilities, whether I chose to lease again, or purchase the vehicle off of the lease will be the discussion roughly 3 years from now. LOL. Basically I've been given a budget and as long as I stay within those means, I can lease whatever "fits".
    Whoever is 'helping' you with the down payment is then putting their money at risk - is that party aware of this?

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  • Yes really it's not a ridiculous amount, but it will probably be between $5k and $7k down. As for "losing" the down payment, my only contribution is $3k. My employer has already agreed on supplying $5k of the down payment and a $250 allowance per month. I'm also aware of how dealerships like to mark up money factors to ridiculous rates of .0029 or higher, which if that happens I do not intend to conduct business at that dealer. I really appreciate your insightful comments. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498

    Yes really it's not a ridiculous amount, but it will probably be between $5k and $7k down. As for "losing" the down payment, my only contribution is $3k. My employer has already agreed on supplying $5k of the down payment and a $250 allowance per month. I'm also aware of how dealerships like to mark up money factors to ridiculous rates of .0029 or higher, which if that happens I do not intend to conduct business at that dealer. I really appreciate your insightful comments. Thanks!

    No, the entire down payment is at risk if the car is stolen or totaled during the lease. GAP insurance will not reimburse that amount ... you are simply 'buying down' the payment and shifting the monies due for the lease to the inception, rather than spreading it out over the payments.

    But, so long as everyone understands what's at stake, it's not my call to tell you what to do.

    Yes, you'll want to find a dealer that doesn't mark up the MF .. may be hard on the Wrangler Unlimited

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  • As someone who is new to these message boards and currently owns a 2010 wrangler I have a question. If the 4 door wrangler residuals are so hi 65+%, why are the lease payments so high? I have always understood the higher the residual the lower the payment?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498
    hugo31z said:

    As someone who is new to these message boards and currently owns a 2010 wrangler I have a question. If the 4 door wrangler residuals are so hi 65+%, why are the lease payments so high? I have always understood the higher the residual the lower the payment?

    Yes, but the MF is very high as well to offset the residual. And, there isn't a huge amount of discounting from sticker.

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  • Looking for the MF and residual on a Wrangler Unlimited Willy's Wheeler 36/10 in FL. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 133,854
    user2016 said:

    Looking for the MF and residual on a Wrangler Unlimited Willy's Wheeler 36/10 in FL. Thanks!

    Standard MF and 70% residual

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  • Any idea what MF I should expect for Tier 2 or Tier 3 credit?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498

    Any idea what MF I should expect for Tier 2 or Tier 3 credit?

    Thanks!

    Tiers 1 and 2 get the best MF; tier 3 adds .00060

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  • Hi,

    Still shopping. Thinking about Unlimited (4dr) Sahara 12/36 in NC. Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498

    Hi,

    Still shopping. Thinking about Unlimited (4dr) Sahara 12/36 in NC. Thanks!

    Standard MF (around .00200) and 62%

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  • deevedeeve Posts: 93
    Looking at a 2015 Rubicon 2door that has been hanging around for a while. Curious what the residual and MF would be on something like that? Oregon area.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 127,498
    deeve said:

    Looking at a 2015 Rubicon 2door that has been hanging around for a while. Curious what the residual and MF would be on something like that? Oregon area.

    Standard MF (around .00200) and 50% for 36 months, 15,000 miles per year.

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  • deevedeeve Posts: 93
    edited February 2016
    Michaell said:
    Looking at a 2015 Rubicon 2door that has been hanging around for a while. Curious what the residual and MF would be on something like that? Oregon area.
    Standard MF (around .00200) and 50% for 36 months, 15,000 miles per year.
    Thanks. Two questions. How does that compare against a 2016 and how about a few miles less per month lease like 10 or 12k?
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