2016 Lexus RX350 Lease Questions

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    I have driven a company car for the last 12 years so I am completely lost when it comes to what an acceptable price to pay is. I am looking at the RX350 and I received an offer of $2500 down on an msrp of 52k 36 month lease and 12 miles per year with a payment of $510 per month. I don't know what the residual or money factor is. Any insight on what I should  expect to pay for this car for a lease would be greatly appreciated. I live in New York City.

    63% and .00150. Read back through the last page or two of this discussion to see what others have been able to negotiate

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  • robags0817robags0817 Member Posts: 2
    Thank you for your help.
  • bryan_kbryan_k Member Posts: 37
    Hi,

    Would you be able to provide MF and RV information for an AWD RX350 (in NJ) - 10k &12k for 45 month term.

    Also, how much does each MSD reduce the base MF?

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    bryan_k said:

    Hi,

    Would you be able to provide MF and RV information for an AWD RX350 (in NJ) - 10k &12k for 45 month term.

    Also, how much does each MSD reduce the base MF?

    Thanks

    .00150 and 57% for 45/12; add 1% for 10K

    Each MSD lowers the MF by .00008, I believe.

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  • suvfanmansuvfanman Member Posts: 2
    I am planning to lease 2016 RX 350 AWD from Pittsburgh, PA or Canton Akron, Ohio.

    Pls let me know residual and MF for 36 months 12K/ year lease
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    suvfanman said:

    I am planning to lease 2016 RX 350 AWD from Pittsburgh, PA or Canton Akron, Ohio.

    Pls let me know residual and MF for 36 months 12K/ year lease

    .00150 and 63%

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  • patrick427patrick427 Member Posts: 11
    I know you have helped me over on the Highlander I am considering but the other vehicle I am trying to choose between is a 2016 RX 350 F Sport.
    MSRP 60,739
    Cap cost/sale price $57450.
    64% MF .00155
    sales tax 2247.18
    dealer state fees $450 (150 is the doc fee I know)
    total price 60147.18
    cash down 2000
    net residual 38872.96
    payment $719.24
    36 month 10k/mo

    any red flags stick out on this? thanks for your time
  • batmitestarbatmitestar Member Posts: 37
    Hello all,

    Here are the figures Newport Lexus gave me as a first pass. I think there's a little room for improvement--what say you?

    Lease Deal  

     Market Value  

     58,109.00  

     Discount Savings  

     -4,829.00  

     Vehicle Selling Price  

     53,280.00  

     Document Prep Fee  

     80.00  

     License / Title  

     475.00  

     Tire/Battery/VTR Fee  

     8.75  

     Acquisition Fee  

     700.00  

     Total Cap  

     54,543.75  

     Net Cap  

     54,543.75  

     

     Base Payment  

     619.66  

     Monthly Tax  

     49.57  

     36 Month Payment  

     669.23  

     1st Payment  

     669.23  

     Due On Delivery  

     669.23  

     Rate  

     0.0015  

     Annual Miles  

     10,000  

     Residual % [58,109]  

     61+3=64%  

     Residual Amount  

     37,189.76  

     Tax: 8.00% TAX  

     8.00 %  


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    @bitematstar That's a very complete quote, with the base rates, and all information included. (pretty refreshing). The calculations are correct, as well.

    The only thing you can do with that is negotiate the purchase price.

    If it were me, I'd pay the $475 + $8.75 upfront, as those are non-taxable items. If you roll them into your CAP cost, they are being taxed in the monthly payment.

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  • batmitestarbatmitestar Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2016
    Do you think there's much room to get the price lower based on what you've been seeing and hearing?

    So by rolling that $483.75 into payment I'm paying an extra 8% on the $483.75? So an extra 40ish dollars over the 3 years to avoid forking out 483 up front? 

    Am am I understanding correctly?

    thanks! 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    Do you think there's much room to get the price lower based on what you've been seeing and hearing?

    So by rolling that $483.75 into payment I'm paying an extra 8% on the $483.75? So an extra 40ish dollars over the 3 years to avoid forking out 483 up front? 

    Am am I understanding correctly?

    thanks! 

    We don't track selling prices ... read back through the last page or two of this discussion to see what others have been able to negotiate.

    Yes, that logic is correct.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518

    Do you think there's much room to get the price lower based on what you've been seeing and hearing?

    So by rolling that $483.75 into payment I'm paying an extra 8% on the $483.75? So an extra 40ish dollars over the 3 years to avoid forking out 483 up front? 

    Am am I understanding correctly?

    thanks! 

    Tax and finance charges on that money... almost $67 total extra, over paying it upfront.

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  • sand529sand529 Member Posts: 45
    What is the residual percentage for 39 months and 10/k per year?

    Thanks

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    sand529 said:

    What is the residual percentage for 39 months and 10/k per year?

    Thanks

    .00150 and 62%

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  • sand529sand529 Member Posts: 45
    Michaell said:

    sand529 said:

    What is the residual percentage for 39 months and 10/k per year?

    Thanks

    .00150 and 62%
    Thanks.

    Dealer trying to push 39 months on lease vs 36 so wanted to recalc on my own. He said 39 months is working out better.. The difference in the payment is $1.55... Too funny
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    sand529 said:

    Michaell said:

    sand529 said:

    What is the residual percentage for 39 months and 10/k per year?

    Thanks

    .00150 and 62%
    Thanks.

    Dealer trying to push 39 months on lease vs 36 so wanted to recalc on my own. He said 39 months is working out better.. The difference in the payment is $1.55... Too funny
    It's amazing how rarely dealers actually do the math, to see what results in the lowest payment. At some point, Lexus has a 39 month special that's cheap, and they seem to assume it will always be that way.

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  • 74457257677445725767 Member Posts: 2
    Hello, does anyone know the residual and mf for a 7500 mile lease for 24 and 36 months. This is for one with the luxury package and I'm in the DC area. Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    Hello, does anyone know the residual and mf for a 7500 mile lease for 24 and 36 months. This is for one with the luxury package and I'm in the DC area. Thank you!

    73% or 65% and .00150.

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  • 74457257677445725767 Member Posts: 2
    thank you!
  • mgarci08mgarci08 Member Posts: 3
    Hi, can someone please provide the residual & mf for a 2WD RX350 in South Florida for April? Also, does anyone know the cost for Lexus' maintenance? I had that rolled into my previous lease (Dec of 2012 for RX350) .

    Looking for 15k miles and 36, 39 or 42 month options.

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    mgarci08 said:

    Hi, can someone please provide the residual & mf for a 2WD RX350 in South Florida for April? Also, does anyone know the cost for Lexus' maintenance? I had that rolled into my previous lease (Dec of 2012 for RX350) .

    Looking for 15k miles and 36, 39 or 42 month options.

    Thanks!

    .00150 MF and 61%/59%/57% residual.

    No info on maintenance costs.

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  • cardoc17cardoc17 Member Posts: 20
    Does anybody know the new money factor and residuals (for 12 and 15K) for April on the RX 350?
  • morekolmorekol Member Posts: 26
    Can we have the numbers for 12k 3-years for RX350F as well? thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    cardoc17 said:

    Does anybody know the new money factor and residuals (for 12 and 15K) for April on the RX 350?

    morekol said:

    Can we have the numbers for 12k 3-years for RX350F as well? thanks.

    New numbers aren't in quite yet; perhaps in the next day or two.

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  • morekolmorekol Member Posts: 26
    got an RX 350 F Sport (last night) for 3 years/12k per year, MSRP of 60284 but sale price of 55209, paid 3.5k down payment, 63% residual and 0.0015 money factor but paid 9 MSDs (money factor after MSDs was I think 0.00078), paid all of the drive offs out of the pocket, with 9% tax in LA the payment became 513 per month including tax. makes sense?
    Dealer said residual goes down starting from today that's why I got it late last night!
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    morekol said:

    got an RX 350 F Sport (last night) for 3 years/12k per year, MSRP of 60284 but sale price of 55209, paid 3.5k down payment, 63% residual and 0.0015 money factor but paid 9 MSDs (money factor after MSDs was I think 0.00078), paid all of the drive offs out of the pocket, with 9% tax in LA the payment became 513 per month including tax. makes sense?
    Dealer said residual goes down starting from today that's why I got it late last night!

    Congrats on your deal. Don't have the April numbers yet but if the residual dropped, I would suspect the MF would as well. They tend to move in tandem.

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  • morekolmorekol Member Posts: 26
    Thanks Michaell, what I meant by "makes sense?" was "do the numbers makes sense? do they add up?". Thanks.
  • mgarci08mgarci08 Member Posts: 3
    morekol said:

    Thanks Michaell, what I meant by "makes sense?" was "do the numbers makes sense? do they add up?". Thanks.

    Here is what I came up with using your numbers. I'm not a pro (not even close) so this could be off.


    MSRP $60,284.00 Residual Value $37,978.92
    Money Factor 0.00078 2% Depreciation $13,730.08
    Term (Months) 36 Monthly Dep $381.39
    Residual 0.63 Total Lease Cost $89,687.92
    Net Cap (Final Price) $51,709.00 Monthly Interest Payment $69.96
    Tax 1.09 Rent Charge $2,518.44
    Monthly Payment $451.35
    Monthly Tax In $491.97


    Using all of these numbers I get to $513 (tax in) when I change the MF to .00099
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    mgarci08 said:

    morekol said:

    Thanks Michaell, what I meant by "makes sense?" was "do the numbers makes sense? do they add up?". Thanks.

    Here is what I came up with using your numbers. I'm not a pro (not even close) so this could be off.


    MSRP $60,284.00 Residual Value $37,978.92
    Money Factor 0.00078 2% Depreciation $13,730.08
    Term (Months) 36 Monthly Dep $381.39
    Residual 0.63 Total Lease Cost $89,687.92
    Net Cap (Final Price) $51,709.00 Monthly Interest Payment $69.96
    Tax 1.09 Rent Charge $2,518.44
    Monthly Payment $451.35
    Monthly Tax In $491.97


    Using all of these numbers I get to $513 (tax in) when I change the MF to .00099
    I agree with the calculations.

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  • pandaxpresspandaxpress Member Posts: 25
    Hello do yo know if the residual and money factors are in for a regular 2016 RX350 for a 10K/36 and 12K/36 are in yet

    Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    Hello do yo know if the residual and money factors are in for a regular 2016 RX350 for a 10K/36 and 12K/36 are in yet

    Thank you

    63% / 62% and .00130

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  • mgarci08mgarci08 Member Posts: 3
    Hi are the latest numbers for April leases out? I'm looking for a FWD Rx 350.
    MF & Residual for:
    15k mile 36,39,42 months
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    mgarci08 said:

    Hi are the latest numbers for April leases out? I'm looking for a FWD Rx 350.
    MF & Residual for:
    15k mile 36,39,42 months

    .00130 MF and 60%/58%/56% residual

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  • cardoc17cardoc17 Member Posts: 20
    What about money factor and residual for AWD RX350 with 12/15k?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    cardoc17 said:

    What about money factor and residual for AWD RX350 with 12/15k?

    .00130 MF and 62%/60% residual

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  • 3melo19803melo1980 Member Posts: 46
    Could you provide the MF and residual on an F sport in NC? I would consider 24/27/36 months at 12k miles Thank you in advance
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    3melo1980 said:

    Could you provide the MF and residual on an F sport in NC? I would consider 24/27/36 months at 12k miles Thank you in advance

    69% / 68% / 62% and .00130

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  • vettevertvettevert Member Posts: 24
    Michaell said:

    3melo1980 said:

    Could you provide the MF and residual on an F sport in NC? I would consider 24/27/36 months at 12k miles Thank you in advance

    69% / 68% / 62% and .00130
    I didn't realize residuals changed that often. The drop in residual, even with the change in MF, made the numbers I was running go up by $30/mo. (2yr/12k).

    Do they change every month?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    vettevert said:

    Michaell said:

    3melo1980 said:

    Could you provide the MF and residual on an F sport in NC? I would consider 24/27/36 months at 12k miles Thank you in advance

    69% / 68% / 62% and .00130
    I didn't realize residuals changed that often. The drop in residual, even with the change in MF, made the numbers I was running go up by $30/mo. (2yr/12k).

    Do they change every month?
    They can. Current residuals we have are valid until 7/5/16. MF numbers are good until 5/2/16.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    vettevert said:

    Michaell said:

    3melo1980 said:

    Could you provide the MF and residual on an F sport in NC? I would consider 24/27/36 months at 12k miles Thank you in advance

    69% / 68% / 62% and .00130
    I didn't realize residuals changed that often. The drop in residual, even with the change in MF, made the numbers I was running go up by $30/mo. (2yr/12k).

    Do they change every month?
    Lexus residuals change quarterly, so they are more likely to have big changes, compared to a make that changes monthly.

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  • raysx5raysx5 Member Posts: 3
    I am about to lease RX350 non-F MSRP of $48,403 for 36m / 12,000mile in SoCal
    The quote I got is zero drive off and $538/mo including 9% tax. Is this decent deal?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,518
    raysx5 said:

    I am about to lease RX350 non-F MSRP of $48,403 for 36m / 12,000mile in SoCal
    The quote I got is zero drive off and $538/mo including 9% tax. Is this decent deal?

    .00130 MF and 62% residual

    Did they give you a selling price or CAP cost?

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  • silent_chaossilent_chaos Member Posts: 3
    Sorry I just saw this post and also posted a new discussion. I got an offer today for a 2016 rx 350 in NJ. The offer as 460 a month 4000 out of pocket 10k per year 45 months . Msrp is 51873.00 and the dealer stated the selling price is 46000. I was wondering if this was a good offer.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    Sorry I just saw this post and also posted a new discussion. I got an offer today for a 2016 rx 350 in NJ. The offer as 460 a month 4000 out of pocket 10k per year 45 months . Msrp is 51873.00 and the dealer stated the selling price is 46000. I was wondering if this was a good offer.

    The lease numbers are 57% and .00130 for 45/10.

    Using your prices, I get a payment of $463/mo, so pretty close to your quote.

    How does the $4000 at signing break down? I'm assuming the NJ state tax is part of that.

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  • silent_chaossilent_chaos Member Posts: 3
    They dint give me a write up on how they break down however I did state I would pay taxes and fees upfront.  I'm assuming that's the 4000 as well.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707

    They dint give me a write up on how they break down however I did state I would pay taxes and fees upfront.  I'm assuming that's the 4000 as well.

    Ask them for the break down. If they don't want to share, they may not be the kind of dealer you want to work with.

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  • colbluecolblue Member Posts: 4
    Hi all, I got a general question:

    At what point in the buying process should you mention using MSDs to bring the MF down? I'm thinking after the selling price is negotiated, but before meeting finance? TIA.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,707
    colblue said:

    Hi all, I got a general question:

    At what point in the buying process should you mention using MSDs to bring the MF down? I'm thinking after the selling price is negotiated, but before meeting finance? TIA.

    I don't think it matters when; most salesmen aren't familiar with MSD. Something to take up with the finance folks.

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  • mmendoza2mmendoza2 Member Posts: 200
    Good Morning,

    Can you please provide me with the MF and Residual % for a base RX350 FWD in South Florida for the following terms:

    24/7.5
    24/10
    24/12

    36/7.5
    36/10
    36/12

    Also, do the residuals change based on the trim?

    Thank You.
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