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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252

    Indianapolis, Indiana

    2016 rwd with signature package
    Gross cap 40802
    adjusted cap 37502
    Residual 25833.15
    finance factor .00038
    7% sales tax
    Base 366.04+25.62= 391.62
    Title fees 26
    Rent charge 24.31
    Gap insurance included
    acq fee 595
    tire tax 1.25
    depreciation 12302.60

    I am not sure if I am missing anything still really new to this.

    This info was in original email, then I asked more pointed questions above. I am not sure if this info helps.

    Sales Price $40,802
    Doc Fee 199
    Acq Fee 595
    title Fee 26
    tire tax 1.25
    Gross Cap Cost $41,623.25
    Taxes on rebates 262.50
    Rebates (3,750)
    NET CAP Cost $38,135.75

    I confirm the .00038 MF; what lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • indydriver317indydriver317 Member Posts: 4
    12k for 36
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    12k for 36
    59%. $2750 lease cash. 

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  • carfan74carfan74 Member Posts: 58
    Any March figures? MF, Residual, Lease Cash on 2016 AWD with Ultimate in NY metro? Thanks! (36/12 lease)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    carfan74 said:

    Any March figures? MF, Residual, Lease Cash on 2016 AWD with Ultimate in NY metro? Thanks! (36/12 lease)

    .00057 and 60%. $2750 lease cash.

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  • bigtree3bigtree3 Member Posts: 36
    Looking at 2016 3.8 or 5.0 RWD with all packages. What are the numbers (MF, residual, lease cash) in March for low mileage leases? I can go as low as 7,500 miles/year. Term is ok anywhere between 24 and 36 months depending on what the best deal is. I'm in SoCal (L.A.). Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    bigtree3 said:

    Looking at 2016 3.8 or 5.0 RWD with all packages. What are the numbers (MF, residual, lease cash) in March for low mileage leases? I can go as low as 7,500 miles/year. Term is ok anywhere between 24 and 36 months depending on what the best deal is. I'm in SoCal (L.A.). Thanks!

    No 24 month for Hyundai.

    36/10 numbers:

    3.8 - .00038 and 60%
    5.0 - .00037 and 56%

    $2750 lease cash.

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  • bassatombassatom Member Posts: 6
    Ok guys. So I got in touch with a dealer in Buffalo NY and these are the numbers he gave me

    2016 Genesis AWD 3.8 V6, 12k/36
    MSRP 53245
    Adjusted cap 49442
    Residual value 32479.45
    Money factor 0.00097
    Lease is 564.93 with zero down, A true sign and drive offer apparently!

    I tried doing the numbers and it appears as a good deal.

    Any thoughts in this matter is much appreciated!a
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    edited March 2016
    bassatom said:

    Ok guys. So I got in touch with a dealer in Buffalo NY and these are the numbers he gave me

    2016 Genesis AWD 3.8 V6, 12k/36
    MSRP 53245
    Adjusted cap 49442
    Residual value 32479.45
    Money factor 0.00097
    Lease is 564.93 with zero down, A true sign and drive offer apparently!

    I tried doing the numbers and it appears as a good deal.

    Any thoughts in this matter is much appreciated!a

    The base MF on the Genesis AWD is .00057, so the dealer is marking that up on you for a bit of extra profit.

    Also, there is $2750 lease cash available; is that included in your pricing?

    EDIT - max markup allowed by Hyundai is .00040 ... coincidence?

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  • bassatombassatom Member Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    bassatom said:

    Ok guys. So I got in touch with a dealer in Buffalo NY and these are the numbers he gave me

    2016 Genesis AWD 3.8 V6, 12k/36
    MSRP 53245
    Adjusted cap 49442
    Residual value 32479.45
    Money factor 0.00097
    Lease is 564.93 with zero down, A true sign and drive offer apparently!

    I tried doing the numbers and it appears as a good deal.

    Any thoughts in this matter is much appreciated!a

    The base MF on the Genesis AWD is .00057, so the dealer is marking that up on you for a bit of extra profit.

    Also, there is $2750 lease cash available; is that included in your pricing?

    EDIT - max markup allowed by Hyundai is .00040 ... coincidence?
    I used the money factor and made the calculations and the calculated lease comes around 780 while the one they offered is 564 ? Am i calculating it wrong or is there something I am missing ?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084
    bassatom said:

    Michaell said:

    bassatom said:

    Ok guys. So I got in touch with a dealer in Buffalo NY and these are the numbers he gave me

    2016 Genesis AWD 3.8 V6, 12k/36
    MSRP 53245
    Adjusted cap 49442
    Residual value 32479.45
    Money factor 0.00097
    Lease is 564.93 with zero down, A true sign and drive offer apparently!

    I tried doing the numbers and it appears as a good deal.

    Any thoughts in this matter is much appreciated!a

    The base MF on the Genesis AWD is .00057, so the dealer is marking that up on you for a bit of extra profit.

    Also, there is $2750 lease cash available; is that included in your pricing?

    EDIT - max markup allowed by Hyundai is .00040 ... coincidence?
    I used the money factor and made the calculations and the calculated lease comes around 780 while the one they offered is 564 ? Am i calculating it wrong or is there something I am missing ?
    You are calculating it incorrectly. Using your numbers, I get $550/mo.

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  • bassatombassatom Member Posts: 6
    kyfdx said:

    bassatom said:

    Michaell said:

    bassatom said:

    Ok guys. So I got in touch with a dealer in Buffalo NY and these are the numbers he gave me

    2016 Genesis AWD 3.8 V6, 12k/36
    MSRP 53245
    Adjusted cap 49442
    Residual value 32479.45
    Money factor 0.00097
    Lease is 564.93 with zero down, A true sign and drive offer apparently!

    I tried doing the numbers and it appears as a good deal.

    Any thoughts in this matter is much appreciated!a

    The base MF on the Genesis AWD is .00057, so the dealer is marking that up on you for a bit of extra profit.

    Also, there is $2750 lease cash available; is that included in your pricing?

    EDIT - max markup allowed by Hyundai is .00040 ... coincidence?
    I used the money factor and made the calculations and the calculated lease comes around 780 while the one they offered is 564 ? Am i calculating it wrong or is there something I am missing ?
    You are calculating it incorrectly. Using your numbers, I get $550/mo.
    Thank you. So 564 including the taxes seems like a good deal ? I have emailed the dealer to bring it down and he said for 10K miles a year he can do 548 a month.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    bassatom said:

    kyfdx said:

    bassatom said:

    Michaell said:

    bassatom said:

    Ok guys. So I got in touch with a dealer in Buffalo NY and these are the numbers he gave me

    2016 Genesis AWD 3.8 V6, 12k/36
    MSRP 53245
    Adjusted cap 49442
    Residual value 32479.45
    Money factor 0.00097
    Lease is 564.93 with zero down, A true sign and drive offer apparently!

    I tried doing the numbers and it appears as a good deal.

    Any thoughts in this matter is much appreciated!a

    The base MF on the Genesis AWD is .00057, so the dealer is marking that up on you for a bit of extra profit.

    Also, there is $2750 lease cash available; is that included in your pricing?

    EDIT - max markup allowed by Hyundai is .00040 ... coincidence?
    I used the money factor and made the calculations and the calculated lease comes around 780 while the one they offered is 564 ? Am i calculating it wrong or is there something I am missing ?
    You are calculating it incorrectly. Using your numbers, I get $550/mo.
    Thank you. So 564 including the taxes seems like a good deal ? I have emailed the dealer to bring it down and he said for 10K miles a year he can do 548 a month.
    Negotiate the selling price, not the payment.

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  • carguy221carguy221 Member Posts: 19
    Hello,

    I am looking for lease numbers for 2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD (Tech and Ultimate) in Michigan. 36/10k and 36/12k, Are there any numbers available for a 24 month lease?

    Thank you for your time!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    carguy221 said:

    Hello,

    I am looking for lease numbers for 2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD (Tech and Ultimate) in Michigan. 36/10k and 36/12k, Are there any numbers available for a 24 month lease?

    Thank you for your time!

    No 24 month leases from Hyundai on the Genesis

    36/12 AWD (packages do not affect the numbers) - .00057 and 60%. $2750 lease cash. Add 1% for 10K

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  • kiwidancerkiwidancer Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2016
    Are the MF and residuals the same on the coupe as the sedan? Looking for these numbers on 2015 and 2016 genesis coupe ultimate. 36/12
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252

    Are the MF and residuals the same on the coupe as the sedan? Looking for these numbers on 2015 and 2016 genesis coupe ultimate. 36/12

    Stick shift or automatic?

    Number are different for the coupe.

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  • kiwidancerkiwidancer Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:

    Are the MF and residuals the same on the coupe as the sedan? Looking for these numbers on 2015 and 2016 genesis coupe ultimate. 36/12

    Stick shift or automatic?

    Number are different for the coupe.
    Manual
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084
    edited March 2016

    Michaell said:

    Are the MF and residuals the same on the coupe as the sedan? Looking for these numbers on 2015 and 2016 genesis coupe ultimate. 36/12

    Stick shift or automatic?

    Number are different for the coupe.
    Manual
    2016: .00061 MF and 51% residual. $2500 lease cash

    2015: .00032 MF and 46% residual. $2800 lease cash.

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  • donno2011donno2011 Member Posts: 20
    In SoCal. What's the MF and Res % for 36/15k RWD 3.8 and 5.0L Genesis sedan?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084
    donno2011 said:

    In SoCal. What's the MF and Res % for 36/15k RWD 3.8 and 5.0L Genesis sedan?

    Thanks!

    3.8: .00038 MF and 57% residual
    5.0: .00037 MF and 53% residual.

    $2750 lease cash on either.

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  • aristigeraristiger Member Posts: 1
    I just signed the lease deal for new genesis and want to share details

    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD / Signature package only for 36/15K year
    MSRP: $46245.00
    Title & Registration Fee:$7.50
    Gross Capitalized Cost of Vehicle: $44852.80
    Capitalized cost reduction:$5250
    Total Capitalized cost:$39602.80
    Acquisition Fee:$595
    Residual Value: $26822.10

    Due at signing :$392.88
    Monthly Fee:$392.88 (Including NJ sales tax)

    How did do on the deal?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    aristiger said:

    I just signed the lease deal for new genesis and want to share details

    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD / Signature package only for 36/15K year
    MSRP: $46245.00
    Title & Registration Fee:$7.50
    Gross Capitalized Cost of Vehicle: $44852.80
    Capitalized cost reduction:$5250
    Total Capitalized cost:$39602.80
    Acquisition Fee:$595
    Residual Value: $26822.10

    Due at signing :$392.88
    Monthly Fee:$392.88 (Including NJ sales tax)

    How did do on the deal?

    Under $400/mo for a $46K car is an excellent deal!

    Congrats, and enjoy the new Genesis.

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  • carguy221carguy221 Member Posts: 19
    Sharing my Genesis deal with everyone from Michigan.

    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD Ultimate - Casablanca White/Beige

    36/12k
    MSRP $53,270
    Selling Price - $48,400
    Minus Rebates - $4000 ($2750 Lease Cash, $1000 Conquest Cash, $250 additional rebate cash)
    Price after rebates - $44,400
    Money Factor - .00057
    Residual Value - $31,962 60%
    0 out of pocket, sign and drive - First payment, and all upfront costs rolled into lease (title, taxes, doc fee, 1st payment, etc--about $1500)

    $458/month with 6% Michigan Sales Tax.

    Thanks for the support with info, helped cinch the deal!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    carguy221 said:

    Sharing my Genesis deal with everyone from Michigan.

    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD Ultimate - Casablanca White/Beige

    36/12k
    MSRP $53,270
    Selling Price - $48,400
    Minus Rebates - $4000 ($2750 Lease Cash, $1000 Conquest Cash, $250 additional rebate cash)
    Price after rebates - $44,400
    Money Factor - .00057
    Residual Value - $31,962 60%
    0 out of pocket, sign and drive - First payment, and all upfront costs rolled into lease (title, taxes, doc fee, 1st payment, etc--about $1500)

    $458/month with 6% Michigan Sales Tax.

    Thanks for the support with info, helped cinch the deal!

    Wow, $458/mo with tax and all up front costs rolled in on a $53K car is a stellar deal!

    Enjoy the new Genesis.

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  • andy_edmunds1andy_edmunds1 Member Posts: 2
    edited March 2016
    How is this quote that I received today in PA?
    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD with Signature package. 12k/ 36 mo lease.
    MSRP:$46,195
    Title & Registration Fee: Tag $136.55/ Doc $135.00
    Gross Capitalized Cost of Vehicle: $42,198
    Capitalized cost reduction (please break down): $1,000 Value owner, $2,750 lease cash
    Total Capitalized cost:$37,771.12
    Acquisition Fee:$595
    Residual Value:$27,717.00
    Money factor:0.00057
    Monthly payment:$383.80
    Due at Sign: $676.88

    And, one more question: Does Hyundai offer pull-ahead program for current lease? I have a Santa Fe lease ending in three months. Should I wait if they don't offer to "forgive" the last three payments?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084

    How is this quote that I received today in PA?
    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD with Signature package. 12k/ 36 mo lease.
    MSRP:$46,195
    Title & Registration Fee: Tag $136.55/ Doc $135.00
    Gross Capitalized Cost of Vehicle: $42,198
    Capitalized cost reduction (please break down): $1,000 Value owner, $2,750 lease cash
    Total Capitalized cost:$37,771.12
    Acquisition Fee:$595
    Residual Value:$27,717.00
    Money factor:0.00057
    Monthly payment:$383.80
    Due at Sign: $676.88

    Your numbers don't really add up.

    Gross CAP cost of $42,198
    minus $3750 in rebates is $38,448 (then add $595?) yet, you show 37,771 as total cap cost?

    At $39,043 CAP, the payment is $353/mo.+tax. (which seems to match the payment).

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  • andy_edmunds1andy_edmunds1 Member Posts: 2
    edited March 2016
    kyfdx said:

    How is this quote that I received today in PA?
    2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD with Signature package. 12k/ 36 mo lease.
    MSRP:$46,195
    Title & Registration Fee: Tag $136.55/ Doc $135.00
    Gross Capitalized Cost of Vehicle: $42,198
    Capitalized cost reduction (please break down): $1,000 Value owner, $2,750 lease cash
    Total Capitalized cost:$37,771.12
    Acquisition Fee:$595
    Residual Value:$27,717.00
    Money factor:0.00057
    Monthly payment:$383.80
    Due at Sign: $676.88

    Your numbers don't really add up.

    Gross CAP cost of $42,198
    minus $3750 in rebates is $38,448 (then add $595?) yet, you show 37,771 as total cap cost?

    At $39,043 CAP, the payment is $353/mo.+tax. (which seems to match the payment).
    Thanks for pointing that out. I think they added $676.88 as down payment to the cap reduction. Then, total cap cost is $37,771.12. Then they may have added tax, fees, and first payment to the financed amount to come up with monthly payments. I will ask the dealer to clarify.
  • washnole1washnole1 Member Posts: 21
    Hi, can you give me mf, residual, and lease cash for 16 Genesis 3.8 AWD 36/12 in WA State Seattle area?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    washnole1 said:

    Hi, can you give me mf, residual, and lease cash for 16 Genesis 3.8 AWD 36/12 in WA State Seattle area?

    .00057 and 60%. $2750 lease cash.

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  • slickmcfavorteslickmcfavorte Member Posts: 15
    Crossing over from the Tucson thread...can you please give me numbers for Genesis 3.8 RWD 36/15 in Florida (Tampa area)?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252

    Crossing over from the Tucson thread...can you please give me numbers for Genesis 3.8 RWD 36/15 in Florida (Tampa area)?

    .00038 and 57%. $2750 lease cash.

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  • stan6879stan6879 Member Posts: 1
    Sharing my Genesis lease deal from Florida- Delray Hyundai.
    2016 RWD 3.8 Tech Package, Montecito Blue, Gray/Gray interior, 36 month/10K miles/year, MSLP $47,285.
    1st month cash down, $369/month + 6% state sales tax.
    Dealer currently advertising Ultimate package for $399 with same conditions. 3 weeks with car and loving it!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084
    stan6879 said:

    Sharing my Genesis lease deal from Florida- Delray Hyundai.
    2016 RWD 3.8 Tech Package, Montecito Blue, Gray/Gray interior, 36 month/10K miles/year, MSLP $47,285.
    1st month cash down, $369/month + 6% state sales tax.
    Dealer currently advertising Ultimate package for $399 with same conditions. 3 weeks with car and loving it!

    Congrats! that's a great deal

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  • David EhrlichmanDavid Ehrlichman Member Posts: 47
    I think I got a great deal on the car. 2016 AWD, signature package, 36 month/15K miles, MSRP 46,275.00
    DAS=first payment, bank fee, + plates (around 1200.00 here in NY).
    379.00 with taxes included.
  • sbrowne105sbrowne105 Member Posts: 8
    Can anyone give me a good reference article or app to calculate lease payments? I've tried a couple and used excel and it never aligns to what is posted here.

    Also, does NY tax the lease payments or the total cost of the car?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    david2u said:

    I think I got a great deal on the car. 2016 AWD, signature package, 36 month/15K miles, MSRP 46,275.00
    DAS=first payment, bank fee, + plates (around 1200.00 here in NY).
    379.00 with taxes included.

    Solid deal. Congrats and enjoy!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252

    Can anyone give me a good reference article or app to calculate lease payments? I've tried a couple and used excel and it never aligns to what is posted here.

    Also, does NY tax the lease payments or the total cost of the car?

    Try this article:

    http://www.edmunds.com/car-leasing/calculate-your-own-lease-payment.html

    NY taxes the sum of the lease payments and collects that money at lease inception.

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  • klnmcmgklnmcmg Member Posts: 110
    MF and Rv for Genesis 3.8 with Signature Package, 36/12, 36/15 in NC. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    klnmcmg said:

    MF and Rv for Genesis 3.8 with Signature Package, 36/12, 36/15 in NC. 

    RWD or AWD?

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  • klnmcmgklnmcmg Member Posts: 110
    Sorry. RWD
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,252
    klnmcmg said:

    Sorry. RWD

    36/12 on 2016 Genesis RWD - .00038 and 59%. $2750 lease cash.

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  • klnmcmgklnmcmg Member Posts: 110
    What about 36/15k? 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084
    klnmcmg said:

    What about 36/15k? 

    Subtract 2% from 12K/yr residual

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  • medved55medved55 Member Posts: 51
    good afternoon,

    looking for genesis numbers for April,

    12k a year, 36 months.

    looking for MF, Residual and lease cash if you can.

    AWD v6,

    tech and ultimate packages.

    Thank you!
  • kiwidancerkiwidancer Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2016
    April coupe numbers? Both auto and manual 36/12 please and thank you.
  • igota350zttigota350ztt Member Posts: 8
    Hello,

    I'm also looking for April MF and Residual numbers, specifically in Pennsylvania for a 2016 AWD with ultimate package, 12/36 and 15/36. Also if there are any incentives (I don't own a hyundai or "competitive" vehicle). Thanks in advance!


  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084
    medved55 said:

    good afternoon,

    looking for genesis numbers for April,

    12k a year, 36 months.

    looking for MF, Residual and lease cash if you can.

    AWD v6,

    tech and ultimate packages.

    Thank you!

    .00046 MF and 60% residual. $2600 lease cash.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,084

    Hello,

    I'm also looking for April MF and Residual numbers, specifically in Pennsylvania for a 2016 AWD with ultimate package, 12/36 and 15/36. Also if there are any incentives (I don't own a hyundai or "competitive" vehicle). Thanks in advance!


    .00046 MF and 605/58% residual. $2600 lease cash.

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  • scattsscatts Member Posts: 9
    Regarding the best way to leverage the lease cash element of the deal, is it best to negotiate a purchase price without reference to leasing and then after that is settled, indicate a desire to lease and put the lease cash into play at that point? Otherwise it would seem that the lease cash would get lost in the dealer's offer.

    Looking at a 2016 AWD Ultimate in Colorado.
    Thanks,
    Steve
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