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Went into the dealership and this is what they told me. These numbers were from the sales manager.
3.8 RWD Ultimate
36 months / 15K
MSRP: 50600
Selling Price: 46500 (good deal?)
Residual: 53%
MF: .0001 (can this be right?)
Rebates: 4750 (3750 lease cash + 1000 competitive)
Acquisition: ?
DMV: 140
Doc: 599
Prep: ?
Taxes are 3%
When I put all of this in my lease calc I come up with $457 per month, this sound right?
$595 acquisition fee
Using $46,500 minus $4750 as the CAP cost, I get $422/mo.+tax.
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(1) 2016 Genesis 3.8 AWD Ultimate Pkg
(2) 36 Months/15K or 36 Months/12K (Please let me know both)
(3) State : NJ
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
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And, there is the possibility that I'll simply turn my car in and not replace it at the end of the lease. I work from home and there is often a car here (wife and daughter commute together 95% of the time) for those occasions where I need to have one.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
could you guys see this deal if it's a decent deal or not?
2016 Genesis 3.8 sedan AWD
MSRP: 46285
selling price: 40250 (rebates incentives 6035)
RV 56%,
36 month lease, 10,000 miles per year
$0.00 up front $518.44 per month
$3000.00 up front $430.00 per month
$4000.00 up front $402.08 per mont
I dont have an invoice price but assume thats rebates down from invoice number considering the rebates are 3500?) i didnt ask any competitive/loyal credit.
Thank you all!!
$3750 lease cash
If the selling price was the CAP cost, I get $403/mo.+tax
But, we don't know your fees, taxes, etc, etc.. So, hard to compare.
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I know it's YMMV, but I emailed my dealer on a car that was estimated at $30K max in the Real World Trade Values thread where my payoff was $32.9K, so ~($3K) negative equity. I got $33.5K early trade-in credit on a new lease.
I'd done 4 leases with this GM and told him that I wanted to get a new lease on a better-equipped car with less mileage than my current lease (I was way under mileage on a 15K/yr lease). He gave me a '16 quote with the same monthly payment as before with the trade-in credit cancelling my negative equity on the old car sight unseen. (And the selling price on the new car was more than fair, so it wasn't like he just played around with the numbers.) He flat out said that since I was a loyal customer, he just wanted to make sure I was happy.
Yes, there are car dealers who value customer relationships.
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I know it's YMMV, but I got $33.5K early trade-in credit on this where my payoff was $32.9K: tough one. There have been very few comps out in CA, which is often its own little market. Over here on my side of the country, it might be $28k. It COULD stretch to $30k in CA, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I'd done 4 leases with this GM and told him that I wanted to get a new lease on more car with less mileage than my current lease (was way under mileage on a 15K/yr lease). He gave me a '16 quote with the same monthly payment with the trade in cancelling my negative equity on the old car sight unseen. (And the selling price on the new car was more than fair, so it wasn't like he just played around with the numbers.) Flat out said that since I was a loyal customer, he just wanted to make sure I was happy. Yes, there are car dealers who value customer relationships.
2001 Passat2010 G37S Sedan2013 G37xS Sedan2014 QX602015 Q402016 QX602016 E350 Sedan2017 QX602019 E450 Wagon2021 Sienna XSE AWD2022 Lexus RX3502022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Limited
2023 Nissan Pathfinder Platinum 4WD
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My local Hyundai dealer also values relationships ... I'm sure they'd work very hard to get me into a new vehicle at a decent price. I'm just realistic about the value of my current car as a trade.
Being a moderator on these forums for the past few years has desensitized me about the buying / leasing process. It's just a business transaction.
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Sorry we don't have the numbers to confirm.
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MSRP 42350
with taxes, acquisition total 43910
rebates, credits 4500 (including 1000 competitor offer as I have a BMW lease)
down payment 1000
cap cost reduction 5000, first payment 499
adjusted cap cost - 38910
Residual 23716
Payment 456.51+43.37 taxes = $499.98
I think the deals will get better and they will reduce the selling price and people will do better ...the cars just came in and there were only a handful in a few dealerships in bay area and I needed a car asap. Hope I did not do too bad.
What would the 36 months, 10K per year residual and MF be on a base model and then one with the signature package both AWD? Thanks. Also, it appears they are doing 39 month contracts too......... what would the residual and MF on the 39 month contract be? Thanks!
Is this a brand new car or simply a rebadge of the existing Genesis?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
36/10 AWD - .00027 and 57%. $3750 lease cash
39/10 AWD - .00120 and 53%. $4250 lease cash
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Thanks again!
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RWD
36/12 - .00010 and 55%. $3750 lease cash.
Subtract 2% for 15K
Options and packages do not affect these numbers
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Subtract 2% for 15K
Options and packages do not affect these numbers
Thanks!
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Discount $4,654
Rebates $4,750
Subtotal $43,880
Money Down $1,500 $2,500 $3,500
36 Mo/10k $469-479 $440-450 $411-421
Residual Value $30,372
Money Factor .00067
When I Inquired About The .00067 MF I Got This Response
We price our cars more aggressively than anyone out there. Other dealers will often sell their car for more and then have a lower money factor, so you end up paying more in the long run. I understand that you are trying to get teh best deal, but ultimately you are going to buy from the dealer that is going to give you the best Monthly Payment. With the rarity and limited availability of these cars I would love to earn your business.
My payments are the same as what I quoted you previously, which option works better for you?
Money Down $1,500 $2,500 $3,500
36 Mo/10k $469-479 $440-450 $411-421
Am I Being Scammed Here?
Thanks
Which leaves open the possibility that you won't know exactly what you are paying for.
Have you shopped around to see if you can get a lower payment?
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Thanks
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I know it's hard to calculate exact tax, but the lease sheet shows taxes of $1800. I think that's really high. Based on previous leases we've done on similar priced cars in the past, taxes were around $1200.
Am I missing something?
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Apparently, your dealer is choosing to keep it.
Find another dealer.
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We don't receive mid-month updates, very often. If they have changed since the first of the month, we probably wouldn't know.
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MSRP of 49870 tax of 5.1% Can you give me an idea of what payment is?