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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    If there's any hybrid drivetrain worth getting, it's that one. And I think the Venza is the best looking Toyota, close to the Mazda CX-5.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,946
    edited July 2020
    Good looking SUV except for the front, but since it’s a Toyota that’s a given. From the rear profile it almost has the shape of the first generation RX300.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if my Mom gets one of those in two years when her RAV goes back.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    back from a week at the shore. car spotting heaven. at least 5 new Excursions (plus a Navigator). Popular beast for the well to do beach house crowd! A pair of GL63 hunchbacks. one in cement. along with a new 911 targa (I think based on the roof style). 2 different cement colored Raptors. temp tag panamera just street parked on a busy road. more Wranglers (mostly customized) than at a Jeep dealer. assortment of big MBs. M3 and M4 BMWs (plus an X7). Couple big Bentleys. An Aviator. Masser convertible.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,946
    What about Tahoe’s and Yukon’s! They are pretty popular here in Sea Isle

    I think I mentioned it before but the amount of Wranglers is unbelievable. It could be 1 out of 4 cars here at the campground.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @stickguy,
    You mean Expeditions? Excursions haven't been made for many years.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Saw a new 911 cabrio driving down my mom's small town street this morning - car probably cost more than the value of almost any house on the street, things change fast in the PNW when you get a certain distance away from the interstate. Also a couple new Telluride in town, interesting as the nearest Kia dealer is an hour away.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,160
    fintail said:

    Saw a new 911 cabrio driving down my mom's small town street this morning - car probably cost more than the value of almost any house on the street, things change fast in the PNW when you get a certain distance away from the interstate. Also a couple new Telluride in town, interesting as the nearest Kia dealer is an hour away.

    Saw an article on the Telluride - Kia dealers have, on average, a 15 day supply of them. Still selling for over MSRP.

    What's odd is that the Hyundai variant can be had with a discount from sticker.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,577
    Michaell said:

    fintail said:

    Saw a new 911 cabrio driving down my mom's small town street this morning - car probably cost more than the value of almost any house on the street, things change fast in the PNW when you get a certain distance away from the interstate. Also a couple new Telluride in town, interesting as the nearest Kia dealer is an hour away.

    Saw an article on the Telluride - Kia dealers have, on average, a 15 day supply of them. Still selling for over MSRP.

    What's odd is that the Hyundai variant can be had with a discount from sticker.
    I am seeing a lot of both, but more of the Telluride around these parts. New Pilots and Highlanders not so much.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    The Kia is better looking IMO, that could be part of it.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,278
    The Telluride is impressive looking while the Hyundai looks just like a bigger Hyundai SUV. I browsed Kia Canada's website yesterday and looked at the Telluride. To get what I would want (a light-colored interior) I needed to select the top-line trim at $54K + taxes/fees. That a lot of money for a Kia even in worthless Canadian dollars.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335

    @stickguy,
    You mean Expeditions? Excursions haven't been made for many years.

    yeah, sorry. Got my E class barges mixed up! the new design ones. Not bad looking though. but the size of a bus.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    tjc78 said:

    What about Tahoe’s and Yukon’s! They are pretty popular here in Sea Isle

    I think I mentioned it before but the amount of Wranglers is unbelievable. It could be 1 out of 4 cars here at the campground.

    a couple of Suburbans were floating around. Really no Tahoes that I recall. Plenty of Audi's though.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    @stickguy,
    Probably thinking of a Hoovies episode. ;)
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Hey, in the past 6 weeks-2 months or so, as Murka founders under questionable authority and even worse long term planning, the loonie and Euro have made decent gains.
    ab348 said:

    The Telluride is impressive looking while the Hyundai looks just like a bigger Hyundai SUV. I browsed Kia Canada's website yesterday and looked at the Telluride. To get what I would want (a light-colored interior) I needed to select the top-line trim at $54K + taxes/fees. That a lot of money for a Kia even in worthless Canadian dollars.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    edited July 2020
    Oddball newish car - new style Altima owned by someone across the street from my mom. It was here when I visited a couple months ago, and I paid little attention to it, but walked by it and noticed it is unusual - loaded Platinum AWD model. Surely many don't exist like that, given the fleet nature of the car. Also odd in that the nearest Nissan dealer is at least an hour away.
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,542
    A while ago I saw a VW Arteon. The rear quarter window treatment for this car seems unique and very good, providing interesting styling with flush glass, as well as better rear visibility.




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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    That's the best rear window I've seen in a long time.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    overall looks a lot like an Accord.

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,542
    But the VW Arteon gives you better rear visibility than the somewhat more thick pillars in the Accord. I assume there are some advantages to the Accord design, since almost all cars use something like this, rather than the very thin dividers found in the Arteon. I assume it adds structural strength.



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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,278
    I think the Accord design makes for a shorter (front to back) rear door window which allows it to roll down into the door. The Arteon door glass and structure looks like the glass might just fit when it rolls down or it may have an articulating window regulator. Both are far superior to the very awkward design c/w black plastic triangles in the C-pillar that GM used on the outgoing Buick Regal and the current Cadillac CT5, which should never have been let out of the design studio.

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,577
    The Arteon is a hatchback, nicely styled. Too bad they are too expensive. A base model is mid $30s. Depreciation could be significant making it a good used buy.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,181
    I think it was Car and Driver that , in a review, called the Arteon a great car that no one will buy.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,160

    I think it was Car and Driver that , in a review, called the Arteon a great car that no one will buy.

    Agreed. It is sharp looking, in person, but when you get into the top trim levels that price out in the mid $40's, you begin to seriously think about an A5 Sportback.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    Michaell said:

    I think it was Car and Driver that , in a review, called the Arteon a great car that no one will buy.

    Agreed. It is sharp looking, in person, but when you get into the top trim levels that price out in the mid $40's, you begin to seriously think about an A5 Sportback.
    Or a Golf R.
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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,542
    edited July 2020
    Here's the structure underneath the new TLX. That pillar near the back window looks sturdy.

    I know the Honda Accord is built to something like 4 times the federal roof crush standard, and I'm sure Acuras are the same way, if not even stronger. It might be that VW with that cool design was fully meeting the roof crush standard, but maybe not exceeding it by as large a margin?


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    pretty cool!

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,542
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    No pano roof for that design.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    edited July 2020
    a regular moonroof on a sedan is fine by me.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Visited the high end car electronics shop to get a new adhesive piece for my dashcam (they gave me some 3M tape for free, then I found I can buy the OEM pieces on Amazon direct from the maker for very little) - in the workshop was a Cullinan, some kind of Lambo with lots of garish paint accents, and different yet more stylish, a 61 Impala.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,525
    Chevy SUV with temporary tags.. Smaller than an Equinox, but not a Trax.

    Trailblazer? Decent looking.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    Blazer? Just a butch body equinox. Might look smaller. Unless it was the smaller trailblazer.

    Would be nice if Chevy didn’t use confusing names like that. I guess tesilblazer is a lot smaller, so a bulked up trax?

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,160
    kyfdx said:

    Chevy SUV with temporary tags.. Smaller than an Equinox, but not a Trax.

    Trailblazer? Decent looking.

    Yep, Trailblazer.

    Comes with an in-line turbo 3-cyl.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I had no clue that Chevy XC40... I mean Compass.. I mean Venue ... ugh, I mean Trailblazer was even a thing.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    I didn’t either until I googled it.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,160
    And you call yourselves car enthusiasts? :laughing:

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,928
    Coming soon...a Spark SS
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    seriously, take your pic. Can barely tell the difference.




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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Faux butch, a representation of society. Hyundai and Chevy even have very similar rear door/C-pillar areas.

    Faux floating C-pillar, please go away.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,577
    edited August 2020
    I haven’t been impressed with what I’ve read about the new 3 cylinder turbos from Ford and GM. They seem to be rough runners and coarse sounding, with little or no gas mileage improvement.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    sda said:

    I haven’t been impressed with what I’ve read about the new 3 cylinder turbos from Ford and GM. They seem to be rough runners and coarse sounding, with little or no gas mileage improvement.

    The Ford is far from new, though. I wanted to try one in the Fiesta back in... oh boy... ummm... 2015? 2016? But they were very hard to come by. My thinking was that, eventually, you could tune it and beat the pants off the larger NA engine.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,335
    at least the Volvo has really good seats, and is built like a tank.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Ford had a 1.0 ltoer 3 cyl in the Fiesta. The current 3 cyl is 1.5 liter.
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    How good are Chinese tanks? :D
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,785
    I hope we never find out.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Saw my first Model Y loaded up with PNW outdoorsy cosplay gear - this one a kayak on the roof. 50/50 at best chance it actually sees water.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,160
    fintail said:

    Saw my first Model Y loaded up with PNW outdoorsy cosplay gear - this one a kayak on the roof. 50/50 at best chance it actually sees water.

    Given the popularity of Tesla here in Colorado, I'm surprised I haven't seen a Model Y yet.

    Wife's cooking studio has a regular customer who drives a Model X - she thinks the falcon wing concept is a bit dorky.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    I've seen maybe 10 of them now, but this area is ground zero for the brand and its demographic, my specific area especially.

    I think the doors are cool to look at, but the practical value is limited - it's a show-off/ego trick.
    Michaell said:



    Given the popularity of Tesla here in Colorado, I'm surprised I haven't seen a Model Y yet.

    Wife's cooking studio has a regular customer who drives a Model X - she thinks the falcon wing concept is a bit dorky.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,414
    Saw a Lambo Uterus on the road today, by the young driver no doubt the product of being the second coming of Horatio Alger or similar.
  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,577
    fintail said:

    Saw a Lambo Uterus on the road today, by the young driver no doubt the product of being the second coming of Horatio Alger or similar.

    What a horrible name for just about anything.

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