Honda Accord Diesel????
Here is the link on the Honda Accord Diesel tests. I see it broke many records for speed and economy. I'm holding off on the VW Passat TDI for now. see link: http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=234399
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Toyota Corolla Diesel
Toyota Tacoma Diesel
Mini Diesel
Ranger Diesel
Honda Civic Diesel
Jaguar Diesel
Isuzu Diesels
and etc., etc...
Just add the Honda Accord to the list.
After that, many manufacturers should start offering diesels. Trucks, mini-vans, and SUVs will probably go almost all diesel in short order.
Isuzu Diesel is now GM-Isuzu. GM took full control over Isuzu's small diesel works last year.
Expect to see the oil industry to rib Bush/Cheney for an "extension" (wink wink). That will work well with the tax writeoff for gas guzzling SUV purchases.
I'd love to drive any of the new diesel offerings comming out around the world (heck, there's even a diesel passat in some states!), but I have a feeling I'll end up going with a hybrid accord.
GregC
Some of the new wave of Euro deisels sound real neat. Good performance (and power where it is usable), with excellent economy. What's not to love?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Right now I have a subaru, but my next car will be diesel (as long as enviro-NYS allows them to be sold).
Have any vehicles been announced as becoming available in all 50 states by 2006 models?
I would think some European models that have already been in production will start to be imported to the US and some US manufacturers will come out with new models, but what?
The technology is in place and 18 wheelers (from Ham radio contacts) the new fuel is required now and the several I've talked have the new diesels.
GM's Duramax smells and sounds like one of their gas V-8's personal experience and from many friends. Not sure why GM & Ford aren't offering more in those oversized/misused SUV's?
Could it be they haven't figured out how to convince the ladies using self-serve pump that diesel doesn't smell?
I still say GM should correct it's late 70's diesel gas-engines nightmare, they caused one bad impression. New marketing campaign.
Personally I like the idea of 2.7 v-6 common rail diesel 206 hp 360 ft.lbs. torque @1800 rpm and 47.8 mpg at steady state interstate speed. Over 43 mpg at least the Ford of Europe's offering in the Jag.
Actually that's way more than enough.
The 2.8L MB v-6 (164 hp & 324 ft. lbs. @ 1900)in the "Sprinter" (tall) delivery van Fed-EX is now using is averaging 20-25 mpg. Direct from a manager of a HUB.
Paul
N8BUU
Will emission control laws hamstring the diesel light vehicle market? asks ABI Research
I thought this statement in the article you posted was appropriate.
"The results of the study lead ABI Research, in its new report, "Diesel Light Vehicles", to suggest that OEMs should aim their diesel products at non-urban markets, where users would most likely get better economy with a diesel than with a hybrid".
It (my 22-year old pickup) can't last forever. Hopefully VW will have the positive market research (Joe SixPack - love that expression - nonwithstanding) to replicate/update the 1980-1983 Rabbit Diesel Pickup.
With 285k on the odo - still 55 HWP MPG capable (at about 60 enr Brookings, OR.......
best, ez
I keep my eyes open for a VW diesel PU. They are still the only decent Mileage small PU ever sold in this country. Virtually every country in the world sells small diesel PU's, except US. Pretty pathetic when 25 year old technology gets better mileage than any PU that is available new. Tells me the government & automakers are not interested in oil conservation.
So, it will probably be the redesigned 2007 Accord that gets it.
40+ MPG with lots of around town torque without the hybrid complexity and cost will be nice in an Accord-sized vehicle.
No "immediate" plans to intro diesel to US but it sure sounds like Honda is hard at work on the engineering to meet reg.s. Accord (possible), Accord wagon (pipe dream), CR-V (very possible), and/or Civic five door (doubtful but Mazda 3, A3, Golf) would all add to my confusion as to what to purchase next. Note to self: Must be patient a little while (2 yrs?) longer.
'In our efforts to extend the Force's use of diesel vehicles, to aid both the environment and our fuel budget, our ongoing partnership with Honda and the new diesel accord enables us to achieve all these aims in one vehicle. The performance and reliability of Honda in front line operations have proven to be very successful and I have no doubt that the Accord's new diesel engine will continue that success'.
http://www.wiltshire.police.uk/news/newsview.asp?id=501
http://www.honda.co.uk/
http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2003-4030226_1a/
Maybe comfort, safety and visibility. Or they are waiting patiently for the Honda Accord diesel to make it's way here so they can get Great mileage with a little comfort & Safety....
Not necessarily. I can speak for myself, and I don’t. Businesses don’t own me.
Marketing is a part of any business. All businesses have their needs and wants. As do consumers. Businesses could value their needs more than their wants and vice versa or balance them out. It isn’t too different for consumers either. Customers can be misled, but it will often happen if the customer isn’t “educated enough”.
If automakers had their way, they wouldn’t struggle to sell certain vehicles. They should be able to compel the buyers into their showrooms, regardless, right? Automakers have to kill models or complete lines, for most part because they couldn’t “attract enough buyers”.
IT IS OFFICIAL HONDA WILL INTRODUCE DIESELS IN USA AND CANADA DURING 2007!
Expect a diesel CRV and Accord/TSX.
Great news indeed. Although the folks at the "Honda Accord Owners Future Models Forum" treated this announcement as if Honda is introducing some kind of Bubonic Plague Injection!!
Toyota Yaris is sold in "North America."
Acura EL is sold in "North America."
You added that bit about USA that was not in the article you linked.
They never officially or directly state that Honda is releasing diesels in the USA.
There were some assumptions and editorializing by the author in the article also.
The statement above is quoted in the article I linked. If it would be sold solely in Canada, it would be mentioned as a "Canadian Intro", just like the BMW 320i and Acura EL were "Canadian Intros " when introduced.
Otherwise cars like the Accord and Civic are called vehicles for the North American market. And that does include USA.
Assumptions/editorilizing of the author? I saw a press conference from Honda regarding their upcoming diesels. It is somewhere out there on some web link---when I have time I will try to find it!!
In fact it is not an assumption, it is an announcement(BIG DIFFERENCE)
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102192
"We are working to meet the regulations, and we are going to offer diesel cars in the United States in the very near future," Hagino told an audience at the SAE World Congress in Detroit this week."
The above quote is from the link above. This quote is from Hagino, senior director manager of Honda(not exactly a creative writer who editorializes). Diesels will be in USA as soon as Honda engineers can achieve future emissions approval. If VW , Dailmer Chrysler and BMW engineers are able to pass future emissions regulations, then definitely Honda engineers would be able to do it, dont you think?
I dont know what the stats are in the USA, but in Canada the MB300CDI is selling like hotcakes and TDIs represent 40% of VW sales.
The only reason for that is that there are no Toyota diesels in the US. Unless the hybrid markup comes down to diesel markup levels ($1K or less over a similar gas model) there no economic reason to buy a hybrid.