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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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Got to live vicariously a little today, as Mom and Dad came up and took me along for some of their dealer visits, as Mom is looking for an S80 replacement (they are supposed to sell it next week). She has not decided between a sedan and CUV, which muddies the waters quite a bit. They went to the Audi/Jag/Land Rover store before they picked me up, so I can't comment as to those, but here are my impressions of the cars we did see. We just sat in a bunch of cars so she could get a feel for what's available and didn't take any test drives.
Volvo XC60 - nice, but she felt it was a little small. I didn't get that impression. Paint was a beautiful color but had terrible orange peel.
Honda CR-V - we sat in an EX-L and the salesman gave an overview of the infotainment system and controls. It was okay, probably a good value at $30k-ish. Paint was nicer than the $45k Volvo. The interior really drove me nuts. Some parts were nice and had a "luxury" feel, others looked too rough for a farm truck. The surrounds around the power window switches and the areas of the center console that stick out where your knee might rub were particularly awful. Salesman knew it had memory seats but didn't know whether the mirror settings were also memorized. She hated the seats in the Accord and loved the ones in the Pilot (but felt the Pilot was too big for her).
BMW X3, X5 - the X3 felt too small (from the outside, it's always looked narrow to me) and the X5 was too big. There was a 440i GT M-sport in the showroom with a gorgeous color combo, but that's too low to the ground for her.
Infiniti QX30 - this one is the Mercedes clone. It resembles an Infiniti from the outside. The interior is a dead giveaway that it's a Benz. Stalks on the steering wheel, power window switches, seat controls, and even the keyfob are obviously from Mercedes. It's very nice but felt a little cramped inside, like my ex's Ford Escape.
Infiniti QX50 - this one felt "just right" to her in terms of size. Very nice interior, and a lot of things that remind me of the good qualities of my Murano, but appears to ride lower.
Acura RDX - "right sized," this one may also be in the running.
Acura TLX - she liked this one, as well.
Lexus NX200 - they had a base model with no sunroof on the floor. Other than the sparse equipment level, she liked the size and feel of this one. Driver aids appear to be optional and the salesman said it is rare to find one optioned that way, so it's probably less safe than the CR-V.
Lexus RX350 - she liked this also. The one on the showroom floor had running boards, which are completely unnecessary and made it harder to get into and out of. I think driver aids are standard on this model.
I told Mom I'd make her a good offer on my Murano, but she drove it and felt it was too big. I pointed out that it's the same length as the S80 and only two inches wider, but she was hearing none of it.
On another note, the Infiniti dealer gets a gold star for having a super-cute and super-friendly receptionist. "Excuse me, miss, can I get your business card? No, not our salesman's card..."
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
She's all over the map. It's extremely frustrating because I'm more of a "science person" and she is basing all of her opinions on how large she perceives the vehicle to be when she sits in it and not the actual dimensions. But, if she feels like the vehicle is too large when she sits in it, she's not going to be happy with it, so I can't tell her to ignore her feelings there.
I think she'd be fine driving my Tahoe if the interior made it feel like a small or mid-sized car.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
The Brickyard over white was a sharp color combo. I'm definitely partial to the Burnt Orange, though. Mine was the Diamond Graphite (dark silver...I think I got the official name right, IIRC) with Burnt Orange interior. That was quite a sharp combo.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Agreed, my 1987 535is was one of my favorite Bimmers. The first week I had it some doofus in a 1970 396 Chevelle wanted to challenge me at a Stoplight Grand Prix- I beat him by two car lengths. Must have been a 325 hp rat motor- and a sick one at that...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Agreed, my 1987 535is was one of my favorite Bimmers. The first week I had it some doofus in a 1970 396 Chevelle wanted to challenge me at a Stoplight Grand Prix- I beat him by two car lengths. Must have been a 325 hp rat motor- and a sick one at that...
I'll try to find out the provenance of the BMW.
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2011 brought the new 5.0L Coyote Mustang to the market, as well as a new 6-speed manual transmission, the Getrag MT-82. Unfortunately, response to the MT-82 was not all that great. Hard shifting, missed shifts, screws backing out, weird clutch feel – these are all problems that plagued the MT-82 upon first arrival. It got to the point where the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) stepped in and opened an investigation into the matter (which they later dropped). It definitely was not the response from the public that Ford was after.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
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IMHO, the Coyote lacks low end grunt typically found in burly American v8s. Sounds great, though.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
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