Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

kyfdx

graphicguy said:

kyfdx said:

Reds game on Monday. Good seat.

Thinking about going again today, but heat index over 100F

You saw an extra inning winner (rare win) if you went.

Not on Monday...
That was last night.

kyfdx

Just bought tickets on stubhub.. 12 rows closer than that picture above.. cheap, too!

So, game is at 1235 EDT... On a balmy summer day!
(actual high is 90F today)

Michaell

I've yet to catch a Rockies game, this season.

But, @jpp5862 and I are going to visit the Mecum auction in Denver on Saturday.

stickguy

You must be in the dugout

kyfdx

stickguy said:

You must be in the dugout

Close.. 7th row

Michaell

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

You must be in the dugout

Close.. 7th row

It's what? A 15-20 minute drive for you to get to the ballpark?

Enjoy the game.

pensfan83

Surprisingly I have not been to Great American despite visiting my sister and family 2-3 times over the course of baseball season.

Mr_Shiftright

I"m going to go see the San Jose Giants Sat. night (Class A minors) No point in going to a San Francisco Giants game.

andres3

Mr_Shiftright said:

I"m going to go see the San Jose Giants Sat. night (Class A minors) No point in going to a San Francisco Giants game.

How about them Giants? What happened to them? They are doing a good job stinking it up even more than the Oakland A's that have been cursed like the Cubs and Red Sox since they traded Canseco the first time.

Mr_Shiftright

The San Jose team is their farm team, and they stink, too! As I'm sure you all know, Rancho Cucamonga and the Modesto Nuts are the teams to beat in this league. Stay tuned for more nail-biting action.

BobSchmetzer3

Love Cadillac ATS. Have a salvage one. Bought this ATS here recently for 4900 usd. Seems like a good deal https://abetter.bid/en/car-finder/type-automobiles/make-cadillac/model-ats . What do you think? The car only had rear damage – not a big deal.

xwesx

Never have been able to enjoy watching baseball. It is fun enough to play, but is waaaay too boring to watch.

qbrozen

BobSchmetzer3 said:

Love Cadillac ATS. Have a salvage one. Bought this ATS here recently for 4900 usd. Seems like a good deal https://abetter.bid/en/car-finder/type-automobiles/make-cadillac/model-ats . What do you think? The car only had rear damage – not a big deal.

Just in case this is not spam (and I have my doubts), that's a terrible deal. A clean one with that many miles is worth about $12k-$12.5k as a trade. For salvage title, that would be about $6k. So to spend $5k on it and have to make all those repairs for a car worth $6k? Nope!

laurasdada

Baseball-wise, I live in a cool location. About equidistant from Fenway Park and McCoy Stadium in RI, home of the PawSox, AAA Sox minor league team. Nice stadium, good show at McCoy.

andres3

I also think rear end damage that caused a "salvaged title" meaning the car was totalled; is a very BIG deal.

Someone said the same thing about a salvage title low mileage R8 they were trying to unload for $75K (Admitted Carmax offered 59K). Carmax had it right.

graphicguy

qbrozen said:

BobSchmetzer3 said:

Love Cadillac ATS. Have a salvage one. Bought this ATS here recently for 4900 usd. Seems like a good deal https://abetter.bid/en/car-finder/type-automobiles/make-cadillac/model-ats . What do you think? The car only had rear damage – not a big deal.

Just in case this is not spam (and I have my doubts), that's a terrible deal. A clean one with that many miles is worth about $12k-$12.5k as a trade. For salvage title, that would be about $6k. So to spend $5k on it and have to make all those repairs for a car worth $6k? Nope!

I'm with you, Q. I was thinking if (BIG IF) this really is an auction, someone's getting their derriere handed to them for bidding that amount. If a sight wants to sell salvage cars, tell the potential customer that. I'm thinking the shipping costs would be more than the car is worth.

Mr_Shiftright

Company operating out of Florida. Used to be called "Easy Exports", a broker for COPART.

imidazol97

kyfdx said:

Just bought tickets on stubhub.. cheap, too!

Team's record may make them cheaper and cheaper. The year I won season tickets to the Reds and Bengals, couldn't give Bengals tickets away, LOL.

kyfdx

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

You must be in the dugout

Close.. 7th row

It's what? A 15-20 minute drive for you to get to the ballpark?

Enjoy the game.

10 minute drive, then 15 minute walk.

graphicguy

kyfdx said:

Michaell said:

kyfdx said:

stickguy said:

You must be in the dugout

Close.. 7th row

It's what? A 15-20 minute drive for you to get to the ballpark?

Enjoy the game.

10 minute drive, then 15 minute walk.

Tough game today. Brutally weatherwize, too. Hope you stayed HYDRATED!

kyfdx

Yes, cold beverages were involved. Fortunately, overcast or we would have cooked.

graphicguy

imidazol97 said:

kyfdx said:

Just bought tickets on stubhub.. cheap, too!

Team's record may make them cheaper and cheaper. The year I won season tickets to the Reds and Bengals, couldn't give Bengals tickets away, LOL.

Had Bengals season tickets for about 10 years. Once Carson Palmer pulled his vanishing act, I gave them up. Who would have thunk the team would turn it around? They did, and still are.

Still, baseball is meant to be watched at a ball yard in person. Football is better watched on TV.

kyfdx

kyfdx

Pretty good seats

stickguy

great seats. sparse crowd

kyfdx

stickguy said:

great seats. sparse crowd

Brutal weather, weekday game, sucky team.

The first base line tap room with A/C was packed..

jpp75

Michaell said:

I've yet to catch a Rockies game, this season.

But, @jpp5862 and I are going to visit the Mecum auction in Denver on Saturday.

Looking forward to the auction, and we need to plan a Rockies game sometime when it cools off a bit.

pensfan83

Really good seats. Probably have the same variety of seat options there as I do with the Pirates though they've been doing a little better as of late.

tbirdmarco

@tjc78 yes if no cars equeped the way you want them on the loat or no cars near bye at other dealers the way you want it than yes would have to settle if you nead an car rite away!

tbirdmarco

@kyfdx in joy the game!

tbirdmarco

@Michaell you boath injoy the actuion on Saturday! cant wate to hear all about it!

tbirdmarco

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3OoOT3m6k

stickguy

something like this is probably what I should get. Probably a nice car, if all serviced and no immediate needs. For a spare car to put 3-5K miles/year on, should have plenty of life. And hard to argue with the price. Could quite possibly use it for a couple years and pretty much break even. Too bad it is still a bit too early!

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2009-hyundai-sonata-4dr_sedan_v6_automatic_gls-used-16615706.html

qbrozen

stickguy said:

something like this is probably what I should get. Probably a nice car, if all serviced and no immediate needs. For a spare car to put 3-5K miles/year on, should have plenty of life. And hard to argue with the price. Could quite possibly use it for a couple years and pretty much break even. Too bad it is still a bit too early! http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2009-hyundai-sonata-4dr_sedan_v6_automatic_gls-used-16615706.html

But for similar miles and not much more money, you could get this: 
http://royal-leasing.ebizautos.mobi/detail-2004-bmw-3_series-325i-used-16615707.html

stickguy

oh, I am well aware of that one. My guess is that running costs will be a few $k more per year on that one! If it had a stick, I would not care though.

Michaell

stickguy said:

oh, I am well aware of that one. My guess is that running costs will be a few $k more per year on that one! If it had a stick, I would not care though.

So, your options seem to be:

1. Lease something new with all the latest bells and whistles
2. Buy something older with low miles, since you don't drive all that much
3. Buy a used luxury make and get the better driving experience

Sound about right?

stickguy

2 should be older with high miles. either one works though.

Pretty sure if I go with a luxury make, it will be a new lease or a slightly used one (CPO type).

most likely I do something totally random and unexpected, on a whim, after spending months over-analyzing every option.

benjaminh

stickguy said:

something like this is probably what I should get. Probably a nice car, if all serviced and no immediate needs. For a spare car to put 3-5K miles/year on, should have plenty of life. And hard to argue with the price. Could quite possibly use it for a couple years and pretty much break even. Too bad it is still a bit too early!

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2009-hyundai-sonata-4dr_sedan_v6_automatic_gls-used-16615706.html

151,000+ miles. Hmm. Even today I think most cars are about to have something seriously go wrong with them at that point.

I think car companies try to figure out how long they want a car to last before something goes wrong, and I'm sure for all of them they try for well over 100,000 miles at this point. But I'm not sure it's much more than 150k for most of them. If they "over-engineer" every important component that could happen, but too much "over-engineering" is likely to cost them more money than it's worth to them. At least, that's my guess.

ab348

stickguy said:

something like this is probably what I should get. Probably a nice car, if all serviced and no immediate needs. For a spare car to put 3-5K miles/year on, should have plenty of life. And hard to argue with the price. Could quite possibly use it for a couple years and pretty much break even. Too bad it is still a bit too early!

http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2009-hyundai-sonata-4dr_sedan_v6_automatic_gls-used-16615706.html

I would respectfully disagree on this. Why? This morning, the cab I got to take me to the hospital was a 2009 Sonata (it said so on the license placard) and it was their high-line model as it has some sort of gray leather inside. I was instantly reminded of a GM car of the late '90s/early 2000s inside - the entire "sea of gray" interior with lots of gray plastic and virtually no brightwork. It just felt extremely dated. I thought of a former co-worker who bought one of these 6 years ago as a late-model used car and how he must feel about it now. I have to think he would be disappointed with it now if he ever rode in a newer car.

qbrozen

Michaell said:

oh, I am well aware of that one. My guess is that running costs will be a few $k more per year on that one! If it had a stick, I would not care though.

So, your options seem to be: 1. Lease something new with all the latest bells and whistles 2. Buy something older with low miles, since you don't drive all that much 3. Buy a used luxury make and get the better driving experience Sound about right?

I think you have greatly overcomplicated stick's thinking. I believe he has 1 option on the table only ...something with 4 wheels and a propulsion system.

stickguy

well, definitely needs a propulsion system. I could be flexible on the wheel count though if needed.

stickguy

if I was to get a TLX, it would definitely have to be this color combo. My one dealer had a left over 2017 like this, but it got sold off before I could even consider trying to work something out on it.

https://www.jodywilkinsonacura.com/vehicle-details/new-2018-acura-tlx-v6-w-technology-pkg-salt-lake-city-ut-id-18895542

stickguy

here's something different. Checks lots of boxes. small, top goes down (sorta), stick. Low price and low miles. Love the colors. Just not quite sure what my wife would do to me if I showed up at home with it.

http://www.eimports4less.com/detail-2012-fiat-500-certified_500c_pop_convertible-used-16630358.html

qbrozen

stickguy said:

here's something different. Checks lots of boxes. small, top goes down (sorta), stick. Low price and low miles. Love the colors. Just not quite sure what my wife would do to me if I showed up at home with it. http://www.eimports4less.com/detail-2012-fiat-500-certified_500c_pop_convertible-used-16630358.html

They are certainly cheap fun cars but the reliability ratings are scary.

benjaminh

Back in high school, shortly after they left the us market, a mechanically minded car-nut friend called it...

F(ailed)I(italian)A(attempt at)T(transportation)

xwesx

stickguy said:

here's something different. Checks lots of boxes. small, top goes down (sorta), stick. Low price and low miles. Love the colors. Just not quite sure what my wife would do to me if I showed up at home with it.

http://www.eimports4less.com/detail-2012-fiat-500-certified_500c_pop_convertible-used-16630358.html

Well, stick, I think she would start by locking the doors and calling a locksmith! Beyond that, it's hard to say.

xwesx

I think that 150,000 miles is about the time that modern cars often start needing emissions system parts replaced. Common items include EGR valve, oxygen sensors, and catalytic converter. Many times, though, I think that the primary cause of engine lights and performance issues is due to sensors, such as oxygen and airflow. Reduced efficiency of the EGR system will also put more stress on other components.

Granted, many of these things can be ignored for a time, but that doesn't necessarily do the rest of the system any favors!

tbirdmarco

@stickguy my dad has an car still like that hundai it is good for what it is the 4 sil one tho. got it since it was new! whent with him back in the summer of 2008 to get it was an 2009 tho! drives back and forth from long island to the bronks for work has over 150k had few miner little things over the years but what car does not have little things over the years. but no big problems! that fiat is nice you nead an spair car incase of problems! used to trust consumer reports take all they publish yearly with an big big grane of salt! my persanal viue! nice beamer you posted above to! miles bit steep! for me

tbirdmarco

happy Friday! all! have an good weekend everyone!

benjaminh

stickguy said:

here's something different. Checks lots of boxes. small, top goes down (sorta), stick. Low price and low miles. Love the colors. Just not quite sure what my wife would do to me if I showed up at home with it.

http://www.eimports4less.com/detail-2012-fiat-500-certified_500c_pop_convertible-used-16630358.html

Fiat has been an almost complete failure in the US market. Six years after Fiat was re-introduced to the US with much fanfare, total sales last year were 32,742, having fallen from a 46,121 a couple of years before. Nissan sells more Rogues in a month than Fiat sells of all its models in a year. That is a cute convertible at a low price, but isn't there a chance this is going to be an orphan car at some point? With sales falling even lower this year isn't there a chance that Fiat will fold again in the US?