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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
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With the number of miles I drive, I could have a 5 year loan on it and still only have 75,000 miles on it when it was paid off.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
that—19" performance tires with fancy alloys, dual exhaust with chrome, body kit, upgraded suspension, bigger brakes, LED fog lights, spoiler, leather-wrapped steering wheel, metal sport pedals, leather sport seats with 10-way power seat, red instrument panel, etc.
It's a pretty good package for $2000, and the tires and suspension really up the handling capability, and the power leather seat and steering wheel are nice. But otherwise it's a pretty basic car with 4-speaker stereo, etc.
Unless something used pops up just too good to pass up, in which case I can always grab it. Until then, will make my rounds looking at stuff on my short (long) list!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I agree that the $2k ($3k for SE) is a great deal for the package.
2015 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2018 320i Sedan Standard Features
Performance and efficiency
• 2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo inline 4-cylinder, 16-valve 180-hp engine. Combines a twin-scroll turbocharger with variable valve control (Double-VANOS and Valvetronic) and high-precision direct injection
2018 330i Sedan Standard Features
Performance and efficiency
• 2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo inline 4-cylinder, 16-valve 248-hp engine. Combines a twin-scroll turbocharger with variable valve control (Double-VANOS and Valvetronic) and high-precision direct injection
I think basically the 320i has a smaller and weaker turbo.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
So even though am not actively looking, think if I ran across a BMW in the right color combo with decent miles with plenty of warranty left, might consider the jump no matter what flack I might get at home. I still look at the BMW store's website just in case I see whet might be a good candidate. Just not sure I'd survive here at home if I put one on my side of the garage at this juncture!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
My experience also is that sport seats are rare in a 320i. More common in a 328i, but only recently did they become standard I think.
Try out the elantra GT if you haven't. The Sport model with the 1.6t engine. The base model is nice, but the sport is a hoot. and that one has fantastic seats. Plus with the short length, and hatch, right up your alley! In a year, could be a nice CPO option. It really is a well loaded, nicely executed car. And is a hoot to drive.
I am past worrying about badges at this point. I want whatever it is that pushes all my buttons. Honda, Hyundai, whatever that happens to be!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If it's a dream of yours, I think you should consider a test drive at some point, and see if the car speaks to you. BMW still has good lease offers. Currently they list $279 a month for a basic 320i for 36 months, but that's with $3900 due at signing....
https://www.bmwusa.com/special-offers/lease.2017-320i-Sedan.html
One challenge with BMWs, as you know, is that options give them prices that'll make your nose bleed. But basic models, if you can ever find one, still have that basic goodness. That makes used potentially a good option, but maintenance and repairs can be costly.
My local BMW dealer still has a leftover 2016 330i for almost $7000 off—but it's still 39k. Yikes. There's a nice enough looking 2014 used one with 55k for 21k, which seems like a better deal. Mr. Shiftright has sometimes said that when buying one of these cars enjoy them, maintain them, but then be prepared to just walk away if something big comes up. I think he was meaning it for older BMWs and MBs, but...Anyway, as long as it works with your relationship, I think it's worth exploring. Just my 2 cents.
What is the warranty on a BMW CPO? Is an added warranty from BMW a lot more? And what's the financing on BMW CPOs?
https://www.louisvillebmw.com/used-Jefferson+County-2014-BMW-3+Series-328i+xDrive-WBA3G7C59EKN37838
2016 BMW 3 Series 328i xDrive
MSRP:
$45,295
Internet Price:
$38,500
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$6,795
REAR VIEW CAMERA, BLUETOOTH, MOONROOF, SPORT PACK, PREMIUM PACK, DRIVER ASSISTANCE PACK, 0.9% UP TO 72 MONTHS!.
328i xDrive Sport Line
AWD
8-Speed Automatic
2.0L 4-Cylinder Turbocharged
34/22 Highway/City MPG
https://www.louisvillebmw.com/new-Jefferson+County-2016-BMW-3+Series-328i+xDrive-WBA8E3G5XGNU01170
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And I'd take a one or two hour ride in the base seats before deciding you can tolerate them. The base seats in my son's previous generation 3er are awful.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@graphicguy - I saw my second TLX SH AWD A-Spec today on my way to work. It was black. Very sharp.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I know there are Mercedes fans around here, as well there should be. They are very fine cars. I’ve come close a couple of times on a C Class. But again, the 4 cyl turbos in those, while quite torquey, are a little rough around the edges. I test drove a “dealer special” E350 several months ago (~2,000 miles on it, but never titled). Big difference in the way the cars feel. Everything was smooth. Once again, moving to a 6 or 8 Cyl Mercedes anything and you’re pulling another $10,000 bill or two out of your wallet to buy one.
If you start fishing in the $30K-$40K pond for a new one of either of these brands, the “nice car” shine really begins to tarnish. The drop off is pretty dramatic. Not a fan of either the 320i or the CLA.
It's way smoother than the Mercedes, too.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
5 years ago Honda and Acura didn't seem particularly known for designs with "bling." But now they've brought the bling in a big way to a lot of their lineup. But at the same time they've improved performance.
Even my 2016 Accord EX has the bling-thing, with chromed alloy 17" wheels with a strange and yet amusing directional design, "chrome" front and rear, as well as other styling touches. And the Civic, of course, is now of all things overtaking the Camry as the bestselling car in America, in large part because of its expressive, bold, and sporty styling. The Civic Si looks a bit freaky to me, but so far seems to be a success in its tiny niche market of people who actually drive manual transmission cars with some performance. And now the upcoming 2018 Accord is also boldly styled and seems to be generating some buzz. Honda's styling choices seem rather out there at times, but we can imagine that the people doing this stuff are probably having some fun—and enjoying the sales successes so far.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
The X3, 328/330 and the rest of them have the same turbo-4. 248 HP.
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For those that may not know I agreed to a deal on a TLX A-Spec before leaving for my conference. This morning the SM at the dealer (salesman really) I wasn't particularly enthralled with called and offered to chop off more money undercutting the deal in place, but not formally finalized, by $200 and offered the same "freebies". Got the "can I earn your business" question and I explained I already had a deal in place that would be finalized when I return to town later this week. He said he would still send me the worksheet confirming our conversation.
I already sent Dealer #1 all of the essentials (license, insurance) and they took my credit app electronically but presumably haven't run my credit because I haven't received an email alert. Wife thinks I should go with the lower offer "because it's what I wanted" but I don't like compromising my word and reneging for just a few hundred dollars when Dealer #1 had their shot.
Someone else tell me I am doing the right thing sticking with the dealer I agreed with....
Steve
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That's what, $5-6/mo?
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