Agree with the other guys. Go with the dealer that you already came to an agreement with - going with the other guy rewards bad behavior. For $200 on a $40k lease it's not worth it.
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Thanks everyone for confirming what I already know. The SM sounded genuine enough in his response to my frustration and his updated offer that I let my guard down for no other reason than my own self-doubt and pondering, even briefly, that I misjudged that dealer and didn't give them a fair shake.
Again, many thanks for the reassurances gentleman.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
It is....called him 45 minutes ago and told him I can't accept.
One of my worst flaws is being too empathetic to the plight of others and unfortunately it doesn't take much. A few years ago we were renovating the bathroom in the basement and the contractor we selected was late to the estimate appointment (claimed he got lost), delayed our given start date by a month (carryover from other jobs), and finally he forgot to order all of the materials (blamed his office staff). I fired him and he was extremely apologetic blamed his divorce from the prior year, only sees his kids a few times per month due to his schedule and custody, etc. I felt bad and was ready to give him another shot before my dad convinced me that if he was this unorganized BEFORE the job then he's probably going to be the same way DURING the job.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Honda Passport Sport - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
I felt bad and was ready to give him another shot before my dad convinced me that if he was this unorganized BEFORE the job then he's probably going to be the same way DURING the job.
And, he is most likely right, too! As well, you are doing the contractor a favor by giving him a sobering reality check. Hopefully, it will be a lesson learned.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
Will go check out the Hyundai and on one of those, would just buy new. For some reason, getting a CPO BMW is alright with me but with a Hyundai/Kia or most other vehicles, getting new is the best for me. Have to go get some estimates on the Golf. Pulled out of the garage and hit the wall damaging the side view mirror. Glass is fine and electrics still working but have to replace the outside cover...it's duct taped on now. Stupid mistake as I had pulled in at an angle and with all the fuss over Irma, I f'ed up! So went to VW and got a crazy estimate. So need to get a few more and then get it fixed. Hoping to do it while we're in Chicago if the body shop will keep it till we return. Am still a bit pissed off about it all but hey, [non-permissible content removed] happens in life. Big reason why I like a small vehicle is that my side of the garage is a bit tight. Life will return to normal but still, this sucks!!
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I’m with everyone else....a deal is a deal. Even if the other guy offered $500 less, I would have stuck with the original deal. We shake hands......deal is final.
About the 2.0 in the BMW. Haven’t driven one in awhile. But, the twin scroll turbo I6 I had with a performance tune was just so much fun, I can’t get it out of my thought process. No slight meant to the 2.0.
Will go check out the Hyundai and on one of those, would just buy new. For some reason, getting a CPO BMW is alright with me but with a Hyundai/Kia or most other vehicles, getting new is the best for me. Have to go get some estimates on the Golf. Pulled out of the garage and hit the wall damaging the side view mirror. Glass is fine and electrics still working but have to replace the outside cover...it's duct taped on now. Stupid mistake as I had pulled in at an angle and with all the fuss over Irma, I f'ed up! So went to VW and got a crazy estimate. So need to get a few more and then get it fixed. Hoping to do it while we're in Chicago if the body shop will keep it till we return. Am still a bit pissed off about it all but hey, [non-permissible content removed] happens in life. Big reason why I like a small vehicle is that my side of the garage is a bit tight. Life will return to normal but still, this sucks!!
The Sandman :@
I did that once. Our garage was a little tight on the right side, and I just wasn't paying attention. I just lived with it. It was an '01 Maxima and I kept it 12 years so I knew it wasn't worth fixing. I think it had a crack in it but it worked.
I did that once. Our garage was a little tight on the right side, and I just wasn't paying attention. I just lived with it. It was an '01 Maxima and I kept it 12 years so I knew it wasn't worth fixing. I think it had a crack in it but it worked.
Yeah, I don't want to discuss my stupid backing antics last year. But, Sandy, if it makes you feel better about your tiny little oops, I will.
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Drove some cars today, at local used lot (such friendly people). 1st a 2014 C class. Felt old fashioned, and way down on features. Just can't do it. I'm spoiled, and wife would get grumpy!
Then drove a gorgeous dark blue over beige 2016 C300 sport. Now we are talking. The interior was phenomenal, and had all the modern goodies. Great seats. Drove so nice (even with baby 4!). My wife would love it. Her favorite dark blue. Might take some waiting or seriously looking, since my heart wants that, my budget says get the 2014!
Though the one I drove was not even in service a year yet, so lots of warranty, and only 10k miles. No need for CPO.
Need to take her to dealer to try some out. Wonder if they do service loaner leases?
Drove some cars today, at local used lot (such friendly people). 1st a 2014 C class. Felt old fashioned, and way down on features. Just can't do it. I'm spoiled, and wife would get grumpy!
Then drove a gorgeous dark blue over beige 2016 C300 sport. Now we are talking. The interior was phenomenal, and had all the modern goodies. Great seats. Drove so nice (even with baby 4!). My wife would love it. Her favorite dark blue. Might take some waiting or seriously looking, since my heart wants that, my budget says get the 2014!
Though the one I drove was not even in service a year yet, so lots of warranty, and only 10k miles. No need for CPO.
Need to take her to dealer to try some out. Wonder if they do service loaner leases?
Drove some cars today, at local used lot (such friendly people). 1st a 2014 C class. Felt old fashioned, and way down on features. Just can't do it. I'm spoiled, and wife would get grumpy!
Then drove a gorgeous dark blue over beige 2016 C300 sport. Now we are talking. The interior was phenomenal, and had all the modern goodies. Great seats. Drove so nice (even with baby 4!). My wife would love it. Her favorite dark blue. Might take some waiting or seriously looking, since my heart wants that, my budget says get the 2014!
Though the one I drove was not even in service a year yet, so lots of warranty, and only 10k miles. No need for CPO.
Need to take her to dealer to try some out. Wonder if they do service loaner leases?
If I may ask, what was the asking price for the C300?
2014 was $24k, with 22,000 miles. The 2016 was listed at $34,999. Original MSRP over $47k
Considering it's a nearly new car, that's a nice discount on the 2016. And perhaps could go lower? A Mercedes could be an amazing car...++I'm looking at the interior pix of a 2016 C300 at my local MB dealer. Wow. Looks very nice. I like the textures and designs. Even nicer than BMW it seems like to me, at least from the pix.
Mercedes does do service loaner leases - no more support for 2016, but you could still lease a 2017 service loaner.
A couple recent posts on a leasing board that @pensfan83 and I frequent are showing that folks have been getting in the low-mid 300s on a 2017 C300 service loaner if you're willing to put down max MSDs (10 I believe with MBFS). MSRPs range from upper 40s to upper 50s.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
Yup - one security deposit is one payment rounded up to the nearest $50 mark.
Seems as though you should be shooting for 20+% off on those cars. Stick with lower mileage loaners though as you can get into residual adjustments, etc.
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Personally, I'm not a big fan of the C300. I just don't see the value proposition. For me it would be an E250 BlueTec like @fintail's or an E63 AMG wagon. Otherwise I'm standing pat with the GTI.
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looks exactly like the one I drove. Same blue. and the seats were fabulous. The power extended seat cushion extender were enough to hook me. The E class is just too big for me to be comfortable with. The C, for us, is the perfect size.
Mercedes does do service loaner leases - no more support for 2016, but you could still lease a 2017 service loaner.
A couple recent posts on a leasing board that @pensfan83 and I frequent are showing that folks have been getting in the low-mid 300s on a 2017 C300 service loaner if you're willing to put down max MSDs (10 I believe with MBFS). MSRPs range from upper 40s to upper 50s.
Remember, however, to get a bigger discount on the service loaner, as the residual will be adjusted downward for the miles already on the car.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the C300. I just don't see the value proposition. For me it would be an E250 BlueTec like @fintail's or an E63 AMG wagon. Otherwise I'm standing pat with the GTI.
Agreed. We had a C wagon for a rental in Portugal last year and while it was okay, I'd go E every time. The C interior looks nice, but the E interior feels nice, if you know what I mean.
2.0T refinement. I love the special one with forged parts and internals in my TTS.
Really, when it comes down to it, my complaints about the short gearing and lack of 7th gear comes down to a mental issue (maybe some lost MPG). Noise, vibration, or isolation issues are not present, even at high RPM's. Very balanced and refined. I have to look at the tachometer in order to mentally notice the high RPM's at my preferred high freeway cruising speeds.
Doctor's prescription: Stop looking at the Tach!
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
I think the C-Class is a great size. The previous generations were a little small. But this one seems just right. The interior design is very impressive imho. What's the long-term reliability of a Mercedes C-Class likely to be?
In that review above, Alex on Autos said the the interior of the C-Class "Looks and feels $2000 nicer than a BMW."
long term reliability? Probably fine. but of course, could get pricey. this one is not too complicated. 4 cyl engine, nothing really exotic. And lots of warranty time to work out any bugs.
Did the 2016 C300 have the "Bermester Premium Sound System"? Here's the one that might be similar to the one you saw that's at my local dealer....The interior details on this one really impress.
Does the C300 have blind spot monitoring?
Just looked it up. Yes, blis is included. And MB offers financing for cpo vehicles...
Here in Canada, M-B has just introduced the C-class wagon. Seems a bargain at $46K CDN but they make you add a pair of packages at over $7K to get stuff you'd expect to be standard.
@pensfan83 Steve! keep the deal you did agree on forget that other dealer! he should have made you that deal from day one you are doing the rite thing! so what color combo and options are you going to be getting?
I think the C is definitely something you buy as a late model CPO, or lease it. Loaded up, an E isn't much more expensive, and it is a lot more car.
It'll be interesting to see what happens at the end of my lease - not much is exciting to me out there right now. I don't know if I'd find another similar car (I'd want a legit all options car, and truly loaded diesels are insanely rare), play the game of buying this car, lease something else, or buy an older car.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the C300. I just don't see the value proposition. For me it would be an E250 BlueTec like @fintail's or an E63 AMG wagon. Otherwise I'm standing pat with the GTI.
The basic CPO warranty is now 1 year from the end of the new car warranty with unlimited miles and no deductible. Most all of the drivetrain and HVAC parts are covered. You can pay extra for an additional year.
And I'd take a one or two hour ride in the base seats before deciding you can tolerate them. The base seats in my son's previous generation 3er are awful.
The CPO warranty is only a year longer and isn’t bumper to bumper?!? They’ve gotten pretty stingy.
I chatted with him briefly before going to lunch and he's disappointed because he "hates to lose" but respected my decision.
You did the right thing. I hope you let them know that if they'd played fair with you from the beginning, they'd have gotten your business.
gg, I’ve always referred to the CLA as the Mercedes Jetta, because I couldn't justify paying more for one than the equivalent Jetta. I even think some of the interior trim pieces on the Jetta are nicer!
Here's a CPO 2015 E350 with only 7k miles (a little old lady from Pasadena who moved to Louisville?). Original msrp $63k, now offered for $41k, although it's been for sale for a few months, and so they might entertain significantly lower offers...
nice car, but I actually prefer the C class because it is smaller. I don't need or want something as big as that. Happy to get a very similar car, with the 2l engine, for less money, in a size I prefer.
the C I drove i am sure was missing some options, but had everything I wanted.
was embarrassing trying to figure out how to do stuff while driving by myself. took forever to figure out the radio. turned out that the volume was just all the way down!
The saleswoman had to show me the shifter. Why they had to mess with the old fashioned PRNDL lever is a mystery to me.
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Only way I might change if something special about the car, but if that is the same, tide it out.
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Again, many thanks for the reassurances gentleman.
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One of my worst flaws is being too empathetic to the plight of others and unfortunately it doesn't take much. A few years ago we were renovating the bathroom in the basement and the contractor we selected was late to the estimate appointment (claimed he got lost), delayed our given start date by a month (carryover from other jobs), and finally he forgot to order all of the materials (blamed his office staff). I fired him and he was extremely apologetic blamed his divorce from the prior year, only sees his kids a few times per month due to his schedule and custody, etc. I felt bad and was ready to give him another shot before my dad convinced me that if he was this unorganized BEFORE the job then he's probably going to be the same way DURING the job.
And $200? What's that these days? Dinner and a movie for family of 4?
Have to go get some estimates on the Golf. Pulled out of the garage and hit the wall damaging the side view mirror. Glass is fine and electrics still working but have to replace the outside cover...it's duct taped on now. Stupid mistake as I had pulled in at an angle and with all the fuss over Irma, I f'ed up! So went to VW and got a crazy estimate. So need to get a few more and then get it fixed. Hoping to do it while we're in Chicago if the body shop will keep it till we return.
Am still a bit pissed off about it all but hey, [non-permissible content removed] happens in life. Big reason why I like a small vehicle is that my side of the garage is a bit tight. Life will return to normal but still, this sucks!!
The Sandman :@
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
About the 2.0 in the BMW. Haven’t driven one in awhile. But, the twin scroll turbo I6 I had with a performance tune was just so much fun, I can’t get it out of my thought process. No slight meant to the 2.0.
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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I'd probably sell out at $600.
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Then drove a gorgeous dark blue over beige 2016 C300 sport. Now we are talking. The interior was phenomenal, and had all the modern goodies. Great seats. Drove so nice (even with baby 4!). My wife would love it. Her favorite dark blue. Might take some waiting or seriously looking, since my heart wants that, my budget says get the 2014!
Though the one I drove was not even in service a year yet, so lots of warranty, and only 10k miles. No need for CPO.
Need to take her to dealer to try some out. Wonder if they do service loaner leases?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Will swing by and show the wife!
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A couple recent posts on a leasing board that @pensfan83 and I frequent are showing that folks have been getting in the low-mid 300s on a 2017 C300 service loaner if you're willing to put down max MSDs (10 I believe with MBFS). MSRPs range from upper 40s to upper 50s.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Seems as though you should be shooting for 20+% off on those cars. Stick with lower mileage loaners though as you can get into residual adjustments, etc.
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Really, when it comes down to it, my complaints about the short gearing and lack of 7th gear comes down to a mental issue (maybe some lost MPG). Noise, vibration, or isolation issues are not present, even at high RPM's. Very balanced and refined. I have to look at the tachometer in order to mentally notice the high RPM's at my preferred high freeway cruising speeds.
Doctor's prescription: Stop looking at the Tach!
In that review above, Alex on Autos said the the interior of the C-Class "Looks and feels $2000 nicer than a BMW."
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Does the C300 have blind spot monitoring?
Just looked it up. Yes, blis is included. And MB offers financing for cpo vehicles...
"3.99 percent APR for 72 months"
http://www.tafelmotors.com/inventory/certified-used-2016-mercedes-benz-c-class-c-300-4matic®-sedan-awd-4matic-4dr-car-55swf4kb0gu174420
http://www.aviautosales.com/2016_MercedesBenz_CClass_Magnolia_NJ_13005674.veh
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That is a very nice looking car. Every time driving it would be something special imho.
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/content/canada/mpc/mpc_canada_website/en/home_mpc/passengercars/home/new_cars/models/c-class/s205/configurator/configurator_s205_300.html#/p3501
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It'll be interesting to see what happens at the end of my lease - not much is exciting to me out there right now. I don't know if I'd find another similar car (I'd want a legit all options car, and truly loaded diesels are insanely rare), play the game of buying this car, lease something else, or buy an older car.
You did the right thing. I hope you let them know that if they'd played fair with you from the beginning, they'd have gotten your business.
gg, I’ve always referred to the CLA as the Mercedes Jetta, because I couldn't justify paying more for one than the equivalent Jetta. I even think some of the interior trim pieces on the Jetta are nicer!
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was embarrassing trying to figure out how to do stuff while driving by myself. took forever to figure out the radio. turned out that the volume was just all the way down!
The saleswoman had to show me the shifter. Why they had to mess with the old fashioned PRNDL lever is a mystery to me.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.