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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,825
    suydam said:



    I know how you feel. I’m a transplant recipient and have had 2 serious infections away from home since then. It made me feel leery of traveling overseas, even though I’m in very good health and didn’t acquire either infection while traveling — I probably took them with me on the trip. It was a big decision for me to go to Prague last year and I’m really glad I did. Nothing happened, and if it did, well, they have good hospitals there too. We are planning a trip to Dublin and Bristol this summer. I’m sure I’ll get anxious before the trip, and I’m pretty sure it will be fine.

    That is not too dissimilar to what happened to me - I picked up the infection on a business trip, it basically grew for 30 days (including while I was away on a trip to Italy) and when I got back, things started rapidly spiraling.

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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     GPP you are welcome cool to bought this one this time awesome love the color combination 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     20 fire fighter wow they put it for sale quick within a few days cool 
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    qbrozen said:


    breld said:

    By the way, @andres3 - thanks for the feedback on the TTS.

    So overall, you think it's a higher level of quality and workmanship than the Golf R...what about the S3?

    I assume most of the reason folks go with the TT is simply the beautiful, exotic look of the car. That's certainly the primary impetus for my interest.

    From what I have read about the RS3, I want one. ;)

    Yeah, no doubt. A little further away from a straight trade on the Type R I'm afraid! :p

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    breld said:

    andres3 said:

    4.4 on a type R already? That's the condition rating right? 4.4 on a car with under 4 or 7 thousand miles? hmmmm.....

    I think the bloom is coming off the rose on the Type R. Looks like it's not going to be a smash hit. I suspect Honda fanboys are a little disappointed. It's not as fast as it should be, and the exhaust note is pretty docile. As for styling, it is polarizing---good for some, not so much for others.
    Not as fast as it should be? Hadn't heard that one yet.

    But yes, I imagine the bloom is wearing off a bit - if nothing else, it's just not the newest, shiniest thing anymore and isn't on the cover of every car mag. A revised 2018 Golf R (and GTI) will get some attention, as well as the upcoming WRX revision (I just assume it has to be coming soon).

    Having said that, I still don't get the sense that these are even close to accumulating on Honda's lots yet. Those auction values are strong - at least for those of us who didn't pay exorbitant mark-ups. ;)
    The Focus RS, Golf R and WRX STI all whup it good, at least at the drag strip. The RS is a full second faster 0-60. Is that a big deal? Not to us perhaps, but to buyers, it might be.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,327
    The RS looks to be having issues- rear diff clutch packs overheating on the track and more than a few blown head gaskets.........
    The Golf R is great, but maybe too civilized. I liked the STI, but it was just too similar in feel to my Mazdaspeed 3. I kind of get the impression that the Type R provides a similar experience to the MS3, only amped up a bit in both performance and flamboyance. I need to drive one to really find out if that is true.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    realized again tonight how much I like a small turbo engine with well matched tranny. The drivetrain in the Elantra if just really nice. Great car for "cut and thrust" driving (like on 4 lane local roads) where you need to zip around slow traffic. Really quick in the mid range (30-60 say). poke the gas and it goes right now, no lag. Not like the Sonata that was a typical loafer that you had to wait a while for it to think about a downshitft, and often was flat footed. Not having to slow down much for curves helps too!

    Nice that it also keeps getting good MPG. Did a 30 mile run tonight, combo of local streets and 1/3 highway, giving it some exercise, and the TC reported 36.8 overall (there and back with a stop in the middle).

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918

    breld said:

    andres3 said:

    4.4 on a type R already? That's the condition rating right? 4.4 on a car with under 4 or 7 thousand miles? hmmmm.....

    I think the bloom is coming off the rose on the Type R. Looks like it's not going to be a smash hit. I suspect Honda fanboys are a little disappointed. It's not as fast as it should be, and the exhaust note is pretty docile. As for styling, it is polarizing---good for some, not so much for others.
    Not as fast as it should be? Hadn't heard that one yet.

    But yes, I imagine the bloom is wearing off a bit - if nothing else, it's just not the newest, shiniest thing anymore and isn't on the cover of every car mag. A revised 2018 Golf R (and GTI) will get some attention, as well as the upcoming WRX revision (I just assume it has to be coming soon).

    Having said that, I still don't get the sense that these are even close to accumulating on Honda's lots yet. Those auction values are strong - at least for those of us who didn't pay exorbitant mark-ups. ;)
    The Focus RS, Golf R and WRX STI all whup it good, at least at the drag strip. The RS is a full second faster 0-60. Is that a big deal? Not to us perhaps, but to buyers, it might be.
    Yeah, based on pure 0-60 times, those AWD competitors certainly have the Type R beat. But they also are priced several thousand higher (at least from an MSRP perspective).

    The Type R sits in a nice middle ground between the GTIs and Focus STs and the Focus RS, Golf R and STI, both on performance and pricing. Really, the "normal" WRX is a real sweet spot with regard to pricing and performance.

    From my simple seat of the pants review, the Civic has a very precise, engaging and mechanical feel - more so than the GTIs I've owned or the Focus ST I've test driven. I could never get too comfortable with the WRX - it always seemed too manic to me. With the Type R, you always feel like you're engaged in driving the car, if that makes sense.

    Now I haven't driven a current-gen Golf R or a Focus RS. I could see replacing the Civic with a Golf R when/if I want something similar in experience but a bit more mature and subtle. I've heard the Focus RS is a thrill to drive, but harder to live with on a daily basis.

    In any case, I'm certainly not arguing that the Type R is better than all those competitors - it just offers an additional choice, and a unique one at that. It definitely benefits from all the pent-up demand from all the Honda fanboys - and I suppose I fall somewhat into that category. It seems that in addition to the young kids lusting after the Type R, there have also been a lot of buyers more like me - in their 40's and 50's, nostalgic for the Hondas of the '90's.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,285

    Depends if it is based on number of vehicles, total money spent, or vehicles-over-time. We could have different categories, you know.

    And breld would win them all. :p
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    breld said:
    4.4 on a type R already? That's the condition rating right? 4.4 on a car with under 4 or 7 thousand miles? hmmmm.....
    I think the bloom is coming off the rose on the Type R. Looks like it's not going to be a smash hit. I suspect Honda fanboys are a little disappointed. It's not as fast as it should be, and the exhaust note is pretty docile. As for styling, it is polarizing---good for some, not so much for others.
    Not as fast as it should be? Hadn't heard that one yet. But yes, I imagine the bloom is wearing off a bit - if nothing else, it's just not the newest, shiniest thing anymore and isn't on the cover of every car mag. A revised 2018 Golf R (and GTI) will get some attention, as well as the upcoming WRX revision (I just assume it has to be coming soon). Having said that, I still don't get the sense that these are even close to accumulating on Honda's lots yet. Those auction values are strong - at least for those of us who didn't pay exorbitant mark-ups. ;)
    The Focus RS, Golf R and WRX STI all whup it good, at least at the drag strip. The RS is a full second faster 0-60. Is that a big deal? Not to us perhaps, but to buyers, it might be.
    Yeah, based on pure 0-60 times, those AWD competitors certainly have the Type R beat. But they also are priced several thousand higher (at least from an MSRP perspective). The Type R sits in a nice middle ground between the GTIs and Focus STs and the Focus RS, Golf R and STI, both on performance and pricing. Really, the "normal" WRX is a real sweet spot with regard to pricing and performance. From my simple seat of the pants review, the Civic has a very precise, engaging and mechanical feel - more so than the GTIs I've owned or the Focus ST I've test driven. I could never get too comfortable with the WRX - it always seemed too manic to me. With the Type R, you always feel like you're engaged in driving the car, if that makes sense. Now I haven't driven a current-gen Golf R or a Focus RS. I could see replacing the Civic with a Golf R when/if I want something similar in experience but a bit more mature and subtle. I've heard the Focus RS is a thrill to drive, but harder to live with on a daily basis. In any case, I'm certainly not arguing that the Type R is better than all those competitors - it just offers an additional choice, and a unique one at that. It definitely benefits from all the pent-up demand from all the Honda fanboys - and I suppose I fall somewhat into that category. It seems that in addition to the young kids lusting after the Type R, there have also been a lot of buyers more like me - in their 40's and 50's, nostalgic for the Hondas of the '90's.
    Actually, the STi has fallen behind in straight line speed. The Type R has it beat by several tenths.

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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    Wow 
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Oh, so the Rover is up and running with no glitches thus far. Replacing that alternator was an awful chore. And it threw fits even after completion. When I started her up, she was spitting and coughing with the idle going up and down. Thought I must have missed a conmection or a bolt. Double checked everything, even pulled the MAF to double check that seal. Car also then threw a CEL.

    By this time, I was frustrated and decided to turn the car around and reposition it in the garage bay since I'd been working on it in an odd position and away from the fireplace this whole time (it was the best I could do with a nonrunning car at the time). I pulled out, turned around, pulled back in, put it in park, and wouldnt ya know it, she was then running perfectly fine. It wasn't a matter of giving it fuel because I had tried that when sitting still. I can only assume the damned thing needed to move the speedometer to somehow register everything was A-OK. I cleared the CEL and all has been well since.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767

     Pencil Vania man 83 that sounds like an awesome show at Woodward the other show you attended in Detroit never went to those who actually want to go to also wanna attend one of those Barrett Jackson classic car auctions to get on it soon ha ha Ha 

    Yeah Woodward is quite an experience, especially if you have affection for classic muscle cars. There are imports but domestic muscle takes center stage. Depending where you start along Woodward it can encompass a lot of walking but the scenery, people, and manufacturer displays are interesting.
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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    @qbrozen - well done!  I’m always impressed by your courage, willingness and ability to work on your cars on issues like this.  

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,120
    stickguy said:

    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

    When my son was shopping for his new car, those were all the cars on his “short list”. Except for the Type R, he drove the WRX, the Focus RS, and of course his GTI.

    He felt the same way. WRX felt punishing. The Focus RS felt crude. All of this in comparison to the GTI he bought.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,497
    breld said:

    @qbrozen - well done!  I’m always impressed by your courage, willingness and ability to work on your cars on issues like this.  

    I second that notion! Well done!

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918

    stickguy said:

    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

    When my son was shopping for his new car, those were all the cars on his “short list”. Except for the Type R, he drove the WRX, the Focus RS, and of course his GTI.

    He felt the same way. WRX felt punishing. The Focus RS felt crude. All of this in comparison to the GTI he bought.
    We've all said it many times - the GTI is hard to beat!

    I've had two, my wife one, and I of course traded out my most recent one for the Type R. And then Saturday, at the VW dealership, as @jpp5862 was negotiating the deal on his Toaureg, I was admiring the newly available White/Silver 2018 GTI Autobahn in the showroom! :p

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,227
    breld said:

    stickguy said:

    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

    When my son was shopping for his new car, those were all the cars on his “short list”. Except for the Type R, he drove the WRX, the Focus RS, and of course his GTI.

    He felt the same way. WRX felt punishing. The Focus RS felt crude. All of this in comparison to the GTI he bought.
    We've all said it many times - the GTI is hard to beat!

    I've had two, my wife one, and I of course traded out my most recent one for the Type R. And then Saturday, at the VW dealership, as @jpp5862 was negotiating the deal on his Toaureg, I was admiring the newly available White/Silver 2018 GTI Autobahn in the showroom! :p
    @jpp5862 and I saw a new '18 GTI at the original dealership where we found and test drove the T-Reg TDI - in a cool blue/green color. Very sharp.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    As pro reviews have said over and over, the GTI is just another level of refinement compared to other sport compacts. It is an adult ride vs the racerboy alternatives. 

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,497

    stickguy said:

    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

    When my son was shopping for his new car, those were all the cars on his “short list”. Except for the Type R, he drove the WRX, the Focus RS, and of course his GTI.

    He felt the same way. WRX felt punishing. The Focus RS felt crude. All of this in comparison to the GTI he bought.
    The 2015+ GTIs always seem to catch my eye. It would be very difficult to give up 328hp though. Yes I know the GTI is lighter and more fun to drive...

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    stickguy said:

    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

    Yes the WRX is a rough piece, no doubt.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    qbrozen said:

    Oh, so the Rover is up and running with no glitches thus far. Replacing that alternator was an awful chore. And it threw fits even after completion. When I started her up, she was spitting and coughing with the idle going up and down. Thought I must have missed a conmection or a bolt. Double checked everything, even pulled the MAF to double check that seal. Car also then threw a CEL.

    By this time, I was frustrated and decided to turn the car around and reposition it in the garage bay since I'd been working on it in an odd position and away from the fireplace this whole time (it was the best I could do with a nonrunning car at the time). I pulled out, turned around, pulled back in, put it in park, and wouldnt ya know it, she was then running perfectly fine. It wasn't a matter of giving it fuel because I had tried that when sitting still. I can only assume the damned thing needed to move the speedometer to somehow register everything was A-OK. I cleared the CEL and all has been well since.

    Nice work, Q! Labor of "love" there. :)
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    xwesx said:

    qbrozen said:

    Oh, so the Rover is up and running with no glitches thus far. Replacing that alternator was an awful chore. And it threw fits even after completion. When I started her up, she was spitting and coughing with the idle going up and down. Thought I must have missed a conmection or a bolt. Double checked everything, even pulled the MAF to double check that seal. Car also then threw a CEL.

    By this time, I was frustrated and decided to turn the car around and reposition it in the garage bay since I'd been working on it in an odd position and away from the fireplace this whole time (it was the best I could do with a nonrunning car at the time). I pulled out, turned around, pulled back in, put it in park, and wouldnt ya know it, she was then running perfectly fine. It wasn't a matter of giving it fuel because I had tried that when sitting still. I can only assume the damned thing needed to move the speedometer to somehow register everything was A-OK. I cleared the CEL and all has been well since.

    Nice work, Q! Labor of "love" there. :)
    You did the right thing there. When the work starts to go sour, STOP and take a long break and come back to it later. And damn, sometimes they even fix themselves!
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    Nice  q   Glad to hear  it is back up and running 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Thanks for the recap on the show pants man sounds awesome I know I love it a lot what you mentioned in the comment above 
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    breld said:

    By the way, @andres3 - thanks for the feedback on the TTS.

    So overall, you think it's a higher level of quality and workmanship than the Golf R...what about the S3?

    I assume most of the reason folks go with the TT is simply the beautiful, exotic look of the car. That's certainly the primary impetus for my interest.

    Yes to both. The S3 is a lot like the A3, which has a lesser interior than the A4/S4, which in turn isn't even up to the TTS' level in my opinion (that's why I said A7/S7/RS7 comparable interior).

    The TTS uses more aluminium (and is lighter), and is more balanced than the VW cousin (or the S3). I'm not 100% certain on the S3, but on the Golf R I am that they put the heavy car battery up high and up-front under the hood, whereas in the TTS you'll find it tucked at the bottom right corner under the cargo bay where it belongs.

    The reason I couldn't find any aftermarket brake pads or rotors for my front TTS brakes is because they are better, larger, and too unique. The Golf R has tons of after-market support, and I think it is equivalent brake system to GTI with performance pack upgrade option, making it even more common.

    Just a few examples. There are countless other little things that'll translate into a car that is just more fun and capable to drive. I felt the TTS was worth the premium over the Golf R when I bought it personally (obviously). Since then, the value has cemented itself even more as I discover those little things Audi does (that VW doesn't).

    However, if you have to have a manual, the TTS/TTRS isn't for you. You can still get a Golf R last I checked with a manual. I'd rather have an S4 manual though.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    breld said:

    For what it's worth, a national search of pre-owned 2016+ TTS's indicates the most predominant color to be...Vegas Yellow!

    I actually love the color, but am undecided whether I'd actually own one.

    I think yellow works great on the TT's, but I'd prefer it with a gray interior since bumble bee was played out by Chevy. Red isn't offered with yellow exterior :angry:
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    edited January 2018
    qbrozen said:


    breld said:

    By the way, @andres3 - thanks for the feedback on the TTS.

    So overall, you think it's a higher level of quality and workmanship than the Golf R...what about the S3?

    I assume most of the reason folks go with the TT is simply the beautiful, exotic look of the car. That's certainly the primary impetus for my interest.

    From what I have read about the RS3, I want one. ;)

    RS3, that 5-cylinder power and exhaust note! Built to be the fastest daily driver.
    TTRS does the same and just puts it into a lighter more balanced chassis with a more focused suspension calibration from what I've heard/read. Built to be a Cayman and track slayer.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,617
    I'd rather have a Cayman... I'm not going to the track. ;)

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934

    breld said:

    andres3 said:

    4.4 on a type R already? That's the condition rating right? 4.4 on a car with under 4 or 7 thousand miles? hmmmm.....

    I think the bloom is coming off the rose on the Type R. Looks like it's not going to be a smash hit. I suspect Honda fanboys are a little disappointed. It's not as fast as it should be, and the exhaust note is pretty docile. As for styling, it is polarizing---good for some, not so much for others.
    Not as fast as it should be? Hadn't heard that one yet.

    But yes, I imagine the bloom is wearing off a bit - if nothing else, it's just not the newest, shiniest thing anymore and isn't on the cover of every car mag. A revised 2018 Golf R (and GTI) will get some attention, as well as the upcoming WRX revision (I just assume it has to be coming soon).

    Having said that, I still don't get the sense that these are even close to accumulating on Honda's lots yet. Those auction values are strong - at least for those of us who didn't pay exorbitant mark-ups. ;)
    The Focus RS, Golf R and WRX STI all whup it good, at least at the drag strip. The RS is a full second faster 0-60. Is that a big deal? Not to us perhaps, but to buyers, it might be.
    Coming in 2020, a Type R with AWD and a dual clutch transmission!

    Joking! But Honda should listen! They'd probably win some of those drag strip races with the above improvements, for those that care about 0-60 times more than others.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    edited January 2018
    andres3 said:
    breld said:
    By the way, @andres3 - thanks for the feedback on the TTS. So overall, you think it's a higher level of quality and workmanship than the Golf R...what about the S3? I assume most of the reason folks go with the TT is simply the beautiful, exotic look of the car. That's certainly the primary impetus for my interest.
    From what I have read about the RS3, I want one. ;)
    RS3, that 5-cylinder power and exhaust note! Built to be the fastest daily driver. TTRS does the same and just puts it into a lighter more balanced chassis with a more focused suspension calibration from what I've heard/read. Built to be a Cayman and track slayer.
    TTRS starts $6k more than the RS3, however. That's a lot of scratch to shave 200 lbs.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    nyccarguy said:

    stickguy said:

    The WRX I tested was definitely on the rough side (for lack of a better word). I really did not enjoy it. The Si though, that drove nice. the GLI Jetta was a bit different feel than the Si, but nothing like the WRX.

    When my son was shopping for his new car, those were all the cars on his “short list”. Except for the Type R, he drove the WRX, the Focus RS, and of course his GTI.

    He felt the same way. WRX felt punishing. The Focus RS felt crude. All of this in comparison to the GTI he bought.
    The 2015+ GTIs always seem to catch my eye. It would be very difficult to give up 328hp though. Yes I know the GTI is lighter and more fun to drive...
    Well, the Golf R would give you most of those horses back (and a stage 1 tune would surpass it). It would also give you AWD. Of course, it will cost you a few more Benjamin's.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    qbrozen said:


    andres3 said:


    breld said:

    By the way, @andres3 - thanks for the feedback on the TTS.

    So overall, you think it's a higher level of quality and workmanship than the Golf R...what about the S3?

    I assume most of the reason folks go with the TT is simply the beautiful, exotic look of the car. That's certainly the primary impetus for my interest.

    From what I have read about the RS3, I want one. ;)
    RS3, that 5-cylinder power and exhaust note! Built to be the fastest daily driver.
    TTRS does the same and just puts it into a lighter more balanced chassis with a more focused suspension calibration from what I've heard/read. Built to be a Cayman and track slayer.

    TTRS starts $6k more than the RS3, however. That's a lot of scratch to shave 200 lbs.

    You have to drive them back to back to see and feel where the money goes.

    Probably a similar $6K difference between S3 and TTS.

    For sure some of that money is going towards improved interior and sound system in the TT models.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    andres3 said:

    For sure some of that money is going towards improved interior and sound system in the TT models.

    That works for me. If I'm on the edge of death, I want to be comfortable and have my music fill me....! :)

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    @andres3 - thanks for the additional insight.  A lot of what you point out does resonate with me as far as the increased quality of the interior and other factors that make it a sportier car than its close cousins.  So, it’s more than just an S3 or Golf R wrapped in prettier sheetmetal.

    And since it’d be a second fun car, I can sacrifice the added functionality of the S3 or Golf R.

    I’ll have to get out at some point and take a look.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    edited January 2018
    breld said:

    And since it’d be a second fun car, I can sacrifice the added functionality of the S3 or Golf R.

    For a few months, anyway.... :D

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    Lol lol lol
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    edited January 2018
    Got an oil change at the Audi Dealership I frequent since they sent me a $79.95 coupon.

    They had a TTRS on display in the showroom, which led me to realize with the recent mods I've done I pretty much have that car less 1 cylinder, .5 liters, and a different exhaust note, less about 45-50 horses, and a smaller mechanical/movable rear wing, and one less DSG gear.

    Oh yeah, I've seen my car side by side with one and the TTRS appears to sit maybe 5 mm lower (possibly less then that).
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    breld said:

    @andres3 - thanks for the additional insight.  A lot of what you point out does resonate with me as far as the increased quality of the interior and other factors that make it a sportier car than its close cousins.  So, it’s more than just an S3 or Golf R wrapped in prettier sheetmetal.

    And since it’d be a second fun car, I can sacrifice the added functionality of the S3 or Golf R.

    I’ll have to get out at some point and take a look.

    I'd be curious to hear your thoughts and impressions on a '17+ S3 though. My test drive was with a '16 S3, and it seems the better DNA for the MQB platform in the new generation TT was at least partially applied to '17 and newer S3 models.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,918
    I got away from the office this afternoon for an eye appointment, and since I was already out...

    I went and looked at the 2013 Q7 TDI I posted about earlier. It's blue over the limestone interior, which I really liked. And it only has 27k miles. Aesthetically I still really like the previous gen Q7. But, the ride quality just isn't as impressive as the new version. It's not bad, but overall doesn't offer much of an upgrade in that department (if at all) over my Durango - which speaks well for the Durango.

    The turbo diesel was fun though (as @xwesx can attest to).

    If it were my Durango plus $5k back to me, I'd strongly consider it. But as it stands, it'd likely be my Durango plus a check for $5k, which just isn't all that compelling. For a few thousand more, I could get into a niced used XC90. Hmmm....

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    @breld hmm hmm smell an punch cumming this weekend cumming up!
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Looks like I missed the year date for my SIRIUS /XM renewal, thought it was the 28th but turned out it was the 18th. Got a big bill in the mail for the next year. Called up to cancel but ended up getting the same deal as I had the previous two years. Of course I said yes and all went well. Turns out the wife got the same deal on Monday for her A3 and we're both of o k with it. Guess I had another senior moment there!!

    The Sandman :)B)

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    edited January 2018
    andres3 said:

    Got an oil change at the Audi Dealership I frequent since they sent me a $79.95 coupon.

    They had a TTRS on display in the showroom, which led me to realize with the recent mods I've done I pretty much have that car less 1 cylinder, .5 liters, and a different exhaust note, less about 45-50 horses, and a smaller mechanical/movable rear wing, and one less DSG gear.

    Oh yeah, I've seen my car side by side with one and the TTRS appears to sit maybe 5 mm lower (possibly less then that).

    So, you're saying that you don't really have that car, as it is far more than just some revised trim and bigger brakes.... Time for another upgrade! :D
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,218
    Drove a brand new Kia Forte earlier today and was amazed at how bright and colorful the back up camera was, puts mine to shame!! Honestly very impressed with Hyundai/Kia corp. And the great products they are bringing to market, every new model just improves on the last! This Forte drove very nicely with crisp shifts and excellent braking, I now see why my wife almost bought one and it's #1 on her short list for her next vehicle.
    One if those 2018 Ford Fusions we delivered last week was involved in a rear end hit with just under 200 miles on it!! Worst part is the lady turned down the LDW insurance she was offered. The damage looked worse then it was and it drove like new as I took it to the maintenance /body shop area in Lauderdale. Tracked straight and just as quiet as when I took delivery in Miami last week. Bodes well for how they are made but still, not something I'd ever consider.
    Ended up going in this afternoon to make up for when I left early last Friday. Don't usually go home with back pain but last Friday it was pretty intense so decided to leave before lunch. Want to keep my hours around that 30 mark.
    Lastly, Enterprise left a voice mail and email about a phone interview tomorrow morning. Gonna do it just to see what they offer and what location. If it's closer to home, with 32 hours guaranteed and no car washing required, might seriously consider it!! As much as I do like Hertz, the bump in hourly pay plus the chance to drive around Florida again might be something that I'd leave Hertz for. Miss that long distance driving to be honest, so we'll see where it leads. Never say never is my mantra lately and it might just be the change I want. Anyways, working closer to home would be wonderful to be honest!!

    The Sandman :)B)

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Sandy I hope the interview goes well for you tomorrow can we to hear all about it and wow the car do you delivered that we were in deep with someone who was renting it already crazy I wouldn’t wanna buy that car no way my not anything bad bad when it comes to damage but you never know happens yes Kia and then I making awesome products now 
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Came home and mom was talking about cars I was shocked talking about the rogue I know no one in here would buy that but political look at a few used ones and see at the local Nissan dealer Friday afternoon I’m gonna leave work an hour early 
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    Wow; quite a story on that Cobra (and others)! Talk about a thrill....
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
     Came home and mom was talking about cars I was shocked talking about the rogue I know no one in here would buy that but political look at a few used ones and see at the local Nissan dealer Friday afternoon I’m gonna leave work an hour early 
    I drove a coworkers once. It was pretty awful. What bothered me most is that it seems to act like the AWD is engaged all the time, making turning a noisy and jittery adventure. I wanted to ask if the coworker's car was broken but did not want to insult her relatively new ride at the time. 

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

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