Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

breld

I don't disagree - a subtle lip spoiler would make a world of difference. The wider fenders and other design elements are actually very tasteful and differentiate the Type R much like Subaru does with the WRX vs the Impreza.

I liked how the video demonstrated how practical the Type R is - the backseats, while limited to only 2 seating positions, are quite roomy, and the cargo room under the hatch is huge. With the FWD, you could throw on a 19" winter wheel set and be good to go in winter conditions. I haven't had any issues bottoming out and scraping the lip spoiler at all - I don't consider it much lower than most other cars I've had with sporting pretensions.

ab348

CNET reviewer lost me when he said he liked the looks.

The wing would need to go into the garage rafters until trade-in time.

tbirdmarco

 Would have to agree with you bro and I am a big for fan here the Durango is definitely on my list if I was gonna buy SUV like that now that in the explore the expression would be too big will he buy it or the suburban and I just really needed also like the new traverse to from Chevy a lot nothing else out there really interest me bigger maybe the VW atlas actually because the box 

tbirdmarco

 The Boxee styling of the atlas anyway yes Dodge is doing a good job of keeping it relevant considering how old the design is 

tbirdmarco

 Even though the grand Cherokee is an old design to still catches Mayeye I told my mom to maybe look at one if she’s interested along with the terrene we shall see not much interest me even smaller SUVE’s possibly the Mazda to go do some test drives maybe this weekend Sunday just to start from now 20 is ready she knows which one she really wants to go for not just where I would like she’s paying for it after all ha ha Ha 

Sandman6472

The Hyundai's hybrid vehicles gave me very intrigued to be honest. Have driven the Kia Niro at work a few times and really like it! Easy to drive and getting almost 50 miles out of a gallon of petrol has my mind thinking. Saw the Hyundai version but hate the split rear window, stinks on the Prius so why did Hyundai copy such a dumb idea? Really need to drive one to see if it's live able day by day. The Niro is no pocket rocket but was acceptable for day to say driving. The looks on both aren't the greatest but the exceptional mpg's make up for a lot off it. Having the long warranty is also something nice. Just not sure how long the hybrid cells last in real life day to day driving.
VW has also stepped up their game with the long warranty on their 2018 models. I like having a long warranty and have been spoiled the last few years by having one. The idea of having one for 7 years is worth something to me, liking their products is just icing on the cake.

The Sandman

stickguy

long warranty, but depends on how many miles you are putting on it.

the Ioniq, like the Prius, went for the aero fastback design, and the split window is a compromise to give some measure of rear vision. I agree that the Niro is sharp looking, and useful space. And no, not super speedy, so depends on what you require.

Right now, if I was looking, I would give the Volt a long look. assuming Chevy is still making it!

suydam

At least for 2019 they are!

Sandman6472

Right now, am doing about 13,000 miles each year but once we both retire, want to travel around the United States a few months at a time. A hybrids better mileage would come in handy to be honest. The Niro has a lot of interior room so we could bring enough clothes to go some time without doing laundry. Plan is to downsize first and have our mail go to one of our kids house as we would be able to do most of our banking online or have them do it for us. Having a vehicle which gets excellent mileage is just a part of our retirement puzzle.
Am very interested in seeing those parts of our country I've only seen on t v or in pictures. Hopefully one say it will become our reality!!

The Sandman

stickguy

don't wait too long to try it. especially if you really don't need the extra money from a couple years lingering on a job.

Sandman6472

My CPA wife wants to wait a couple more years. Told her we could always just buy a place, take out a small mortgage and then once we sell and move, payoff the rest and then bank a whole lot. Makes sense to me as in our neighborhood, the market's very hot and properties only last a couple of weeks, if that long! A 4/2 on a cul-de-sac in a great school city only helps us. Even though the mass shooting yesterday in next door Parkland won't really affect our selling price. House needs some interior work but a handy family could do it their way and get a nice property to boot. Lots of young families in here with multitudes of kids everywhere, we've just outgrown the area.
Just need to get wifey on board and we're all set. Be it Orlando or Ft. Myers, don't really care at this point though being near our girls is a huge plus for me. Like that they just stop in whenever to say hello and then go home, perfect situation for all of us!
Bottom line...am so ready to leave South Florida!!

The Sandman

stickguy

getting the wifey on board? Famous last words, and easier said than done. This, I am painfully aware of right now!

tbirdmarco

 Cindy nice write up on the Kia Nero and Hyundai ionic hybrids have to check Photos out still when you get a chance to go to both of those dealers sometime later this year sounds like a plan when you retire the travel the country I won’t do that to you and Shirley not sure when have to find someone willing to drive a ton into enjoys it of course it’s obviously I won’t be able to help them with the driving ha ha Ha going to find a woman who likes cars as much as I do or two 

xwesx

sandman_6472 said:

Just need to get wifey on board and we're all set. Be it Orlando or Ft. Myers, don't really care at this point though being near our girls is a huge plus for me. Like that they just stop in whenever to say hello and then go home, perfect situation for all of us!
Bottom line...am so ready to leave South Florida!!

The Sandman

Try not to be too keen on following the youngin's around. Youth these days are highly mobile, and, to be honest, the country is a pretty small place. If you plan to travel frequently anyway, you'll have plenty of opportunity to see them.

suydam

xwesx said:

sandman_6472 said:

Just need to get wifey on board and we're all set. Be it Orlando or Ft. Myers, don't really care at this point though being near our girls is a huge plus for me. Like that they just stop in whenever to say hello and then go home, perfect situation for all of us!
Bottom line...am so ready to leave South Florida!!

The Sandman

Try not to be too keen on following the youngin's around. Youth these days are highly mobile, and, to be honest, the country is a pretty small place. If you plan to travel frequently anyway, you'll have plenty of opportunity to see them.

Agree completely. My 3 kids live in very different places, one outside the U.S. we decided we might as well retire wherever we like, as we have no idea where any of them might be in 5 or 10 years.

stickguy

that is my theory too. But, we likely will stay in reasonable distance to them. Though wife is more concerned about not getting much further away from the extended family, which means the people not smart enough to escape upstate NY. I'm willing to fly occasionally from down south!

laurasdada

sandman_6472 said:

My CPA wife wants to wait a couple more years. Told her we could always just buy a place, take out a small mortgage and then once we sell and move, payoff the rest and then bank a whole lot. Makes sense to me as in our neighborhood, the market's very hot and properties only last a couple of weeks, if that long! A 4/2 on a cul-de-sac in a great school city only helps us. Even though the mass shooting yesterday in next door Parkland won't really affect our selling price. House needs some interior work but a handy family could do it their way and get a nice property to boot. Lots of young families in here with multitudes of kids everywhere, we've just outgrown the area.
Just need to get wifey on board and we're all set. Be it Orlando or Ft. Myers, don't really care at this point though being near our girls is a huge plus for me. Like that they just stop in whenever to say hello and then go home, perfect situation for all of us!
Bottom line...am so ready to leave South Florida!!

The Sandman

Fort Myers = Red Sox spring training!

nyccarguy

laurasdada said:

sandman_6472 said:

My CPA wife wants to wait a couple more years. Told her we could always just buy a place, take out a small mortgage and then once we sell and move, payoff the rest and then bank a whole lot. Makes sense to me as in our neighborhood, the market's very hot and properties only last a couple of weeks, if that long! A 4/2 on a cul-de-sac in a great school city only helps us. Even though the mass shooting yesterday in next door Parkland won't really affect our selling price. House needs some interior work but a handy family could do it their way and get a nice property to boot. Lots of young families in here with multitudes of kids everywhere, we've just outgrown the area.
Just need to get wifey on board and we're all set. Be it Orlando or Ft. Myers, don't really care at this point though being near our girls is a huge plus for me. Like that they just stop in whenever to say hello and then go home, perfect situation for all of us!
Bottom line...am so ready to leave South Florida!!

The Sandman

Fort Myers = Red Sox spring training!

Close to the Red Sox? That's reason enough to stay far, far away from that place.

kyfdx

Fort Myers = Red Sox spring training!

So, Fort Myers is out...

laurasdada

Et tu, NYC & KY? The dark side of the force is strong in this thread... Geez, after a short intermission, you win a few World Series and suddenly you're the Evil Empire!

PF_Flyer

A Wall Street Journal reporter is hoping to find a recent buyer that would be willing to talk about their experience at the dealership, specifically about how/if the salesperson explained car safety systems during the purchase process. She's hoping to ask a few questions about how the dealer explained the ADAS package, tried to sell it to them, demonstrated how it worked, etc. Please send a note to pr@edmunds.com by next Friday 2/23/18

nyccarguy

This 2017 QX50 would be perfect for my wife:

http://www.pepeinfiniti.com/VehicleDetails/certified-2017-INFINITI-QX50-AWD-White_Plains-NY/3153755983?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Newsletter

nyccarguy

I'm sure there are others in the high teens floating around out there. Looks like a goods price being CPO.

http://www.pepeinfiniti.com/VehicleDetails/certified-2015-INFINITI-Q40-AWD-White_Plains-NY/3150812903?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Newsletter

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

This 2017 QX50 would be perfect for my wife:

http://www.pepeinfiniti.com/VehicleDetails/certified-2017-INFINITI-QX50-AWD-White_Plains-NY/3153755983?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Newsletter

My daughter wants a QX50, fully loaded.

tbirdmarco

 Nice cars posted above New York car guy and Michael 

stickguy

the QX50 is nice. I could live with that one. Only thing missing is BLIS/cross path. Otherwise, got it all.

She just got a pilot though, so not in the market!

And yes, you can find Q40s in the teens now. I saw a nice white Q37 today parked near me. Sharp. Nice sized package, and certainly fast.

Michaell

stickguy said:

the QX50 is nice. I could live with that one. Only thing missing is BLIS/cross path. Otherwise, got it all.

She just got a pilot though, so not in the market!

And yes, you can find Q40s in the teens now. I saw a nice white Q37 today parked near me. Sharp. Nice sized package, and certainly fast.

G37, you mean?

stickguy

yeah, that. Infiniti should stop changing the naming conventions without changing the cars.

fintail

I wonder if this will depreciate 50% in the next 15 months - gotta get it into my price range. I'm looking just a little. If I go for one of these, I want a pre-2002 car or a 2013+ car.

stickguy

I could never do one of those. I assume they drive lousy for one thing. And 12/14 MPG ratings? wow.

Then there is the image, which lets just say, is not me.

fintail

The old fashioned build quality is charming to me, and they have a very high depreciation floor - miled up early official imports still bring 25K++. Just one on the list. Fuel economy is the big drawback, but with our draconian private import laws, the diesels are somewhat elderly.

Michaell

fintail said:

I wonder if this will depreciate 50% in the next 15 months - gotta get it into my price range. I'm looking just a little. If I go for one of these, I want a pre-2002 car or a 2013+ car.

Another 50%? Seems unlikely....

But, cool look.

fintail

yeah, I was kidding/hoping. These have stable values - if it lost more than 20% in a year and a half, even with the new model for 2019, I would be surprised. 89K is about 100% over my desired budget.

Michaell said:

Another 50%? Seems unlikely....

But, cool look.

Michaell

fintail said:

yeah, I was kidding/hoping. These have stable values - if it lost more than 20% in a year and a half, even with the new model for 2019, I would be surprised. 89K is about 100% over my desired budget.

Michaell said:

Another 50%? Seems unlikely....

But, cool look.

And about 400% over mine ....

corvette

Yeah, I've never driven either, but I assume the G-wagens ride about like a Wrangler.

28firefighter

fintail said:

yeah, I was kidding/hoping. These have stable values - if it lost more than 20% in a year and a half, even with the new model for 2019, I would be surprised. 89K is about 100% over my desired budget.

Another 50%? Seems unlikely.... But, cool look.

We are in Vancouver for the weekend. Nightmare getting up here - still waiting for our NEXUS interviews - and three lanes at the Canadian Border Crossing closed for construction. 91 minutes in line. 

Anyway once up here, veritable what’s what of the most expensive cars around. Most notably a G63, Tesla Model X, and a Nissan GT-R. Of course tons of run of the mill BMWs and Mercedes, too. 

nyccarguy

fintail said:

I wonder if this will depreciate 50% in the next 15 months - gotta get it into my price range. I'm looking just a little. If I go for one of these, I want a pre-2002 car or a 2013+ car.

Go big or go home

stickguy

Michael, that is starting to approach what I want to pay for my next house!

We sat in a new G at the auto show. Surprisingly cramped inside.

graphicguy

Bradd....I’ve always liked those QX50s (or their former name, the EX). I thought they were a pretty cool wagon for those who don’t need a big SUV. I test drove a couple of them. Was always impressed.

Since I’m now forever on Infiniti’s email list, they are updating it pretty dramatically. They’re actually giving away a bunch of pretty cool stuff to get you to buy one when they hit the dealerships.....


https://www.infinitiusa.com/crossover/2019-qx50/reserve/?gclid=CKD0v9OlrdkCFUyTxQIdVNgC7A&gclsrc=ds

rny421

stickguy said:

Though wife is more concerned about not getting much further away from the extended family, which means the people not smart enough to escape upstate NY. I'm willing to fly occasionally from down south!

Hey now, lay off upstate NY! Only those of us that live here are allowed to complain about it haha.

Now, for those that live in NJ, everyone is allowed to make fun of it

We've talked about moving out of the area, but not sure if we'd ever pull the trigger. I'm the one that is more hesitant about moving, not my wife. It's hard to think about when you've become comfortable in an area.

fintail

Did you choose to do the interview in Seattle? Don't. Do it in Blaine. I did mine there, and was able to book it just a few days out. It's worth the 90 minute each way drive, and then you can stop in Bellingham for a nice lunch etc.

Vancouver, via real estate, is a regional money laundering haven, and prime destination for no-questions-asked pay-to-play residency. You'll also notice more than a few teenagers driving six figure cars. It's like Bellevue to the tenth power. Keep an eye out, if the weather was better you'll see plenty of late model Ferraris, Lambos, Astons, McLarens, etc. The enthusiast with normal funds might have a weird JDM thing.

28firefighter said:

We are in Vancouver for the weekend. Nightmare getting up here - still waiting for our NEXUS interviews - and three lanes at the Canadian Border Crossing closed for construction. 91 minutes in line. 

Anyway once up here, veritable what’s what of the most expensive cars around. Most notably a G63, Tesla Model X, and a Nissan GT-R. Of course tons of run of the mill BMWs and Mercedes, too. 

fintail

So G65 then? It'll need to depreciate by 75%. The inappropriately cool forged wheels on those things might make it worth it.

I was thinking, a nice 2002 G500 with 150K miles on it will still fetch in the mid-upper 20s. A nice 2002 S500 with the same miles is a 5K car on a good day. They cost the same when new,

nyccarguy said:

Go big or go home

stickguy

new QX50 looks nice. wonder how the variable compression engine will work in real life? And of course, how well it will last. But, get a few basic options on it, and can get pretty pricey. Still would be nice to compare back to back with the next RDX (which I am almost positive that my wife would like better).

Also noticed that Infiniti is copying the Acura dash design, with large upper and lower display screens.

Mr_Shiftright

Michaell said:

fintail said:

I wonder if this will depreciate 50% in the next 15 months - gotta get it into my price range. I'm looking just a little. If I go for one of these, I want a pre-2002 car or a 2013+ car.

Another 50%? Seems unlikely....

But, cool look.

Well if gas when to $5 a gallon, then maybe.

kyfdx

Mr_Shiftright said:

Michaell said:

fintail said:

I wonder if this will depreciate 50% in the next 15 months - gotta get it into my price range. I'm looking just a little. If I go for one of these, I want a pre-2002 car or a 2013+ car.

Another 50%? Seems unlikely....

But, cool look.

Well if gas when to $5 a gallon, then maybe.

Can't say this about a lot of vehicles, but it seems G-Wagen owners are pretty much immune to gas prices.

Mr_Shiftright

Oh, I would doubt that. Figure cost per mile at 12 mpg to fill a tank at $5 a gallon. You'll spend $100 to go 240 miles. That's $5000 a year in gas. Not chump change even for the mildly affluent.

kyfdx

Mr_Shiftright said:

Oh, I would doubt that. Figure cost per mile at 12 mpg to fill a tank at $5 a gallon. You'll spend $100 to go 240 miles. That's $5000 a year in gas. Not chump change even for the mildly affluent.

I still say... very few G-Wagen owners will even notice..

Now, the owner of an $80K Lexus will complain all day about the extra $0.60/gallon for premium..

Mr_Shiftright

Not buyin' it. This suggests rich people are stupid, doesn't it? Sure, maybe a lottery winner wouldn't mind, but even G-wagen owners are probably on some kind of budget.

If we can judge by history and former "gas crises", people ditched big SUVs pretty fast.

fintail

Yeah, someone buying a new G63 is paying nearly 150K for the privilege, and likely using it as an occasional toy. They don't care if gas is $3 or $5 or $10. They also just won bigly on the new tax plan, so that might make up for it.

kyfdx

Not buyin' it. This suggests rich people are stupid, doesn't it?

I don't want to say, "stupid".. But, someone who buys a G-Wagen is akin to someone that buys a ZR-1 Corvette.... fuel costs don't rank very high. It's not exactly a transportation expense.