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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    Too bad it is black/black and on the pricey side. Not too bad though. About $27.5k would make me feel better. 

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    edited February 2018
    Early W205 with Tex also have an issue where the upholstery can aquire a weird kind of bloom film. I don't know the cut off, but it was a huge amount of drama on various MB forums when the cars were new.

    I am now about 15 months from lease end, and already thinking hard about what I want. Assuming we haven't been nuked, I am still alive and employed, etc, here's what I am thinking now:

    Maybe buy out the E250, but with the residual being comically higher than market value, and I've been told they don't like to negotiate it, buying it out might not be realistic. So, I'd move on.

    Re-up a lease for something, but it would have to be a great deal at least on par with the current car. This is my third lease, and for some reason, I am thinking I might not repeat the process.

    Possibly find another E250 to buy, but it would be tough - I want a certain car, full option load 4Matic with luxury trim package. I miss the hood ornament. Not sure if the right car even exists.

    Maybe buy an E wagon - but again I want high options and luxury trim.

    Maybe an E63 wagon - higher depreciation floor, cooler, more expensive and thirsty.

    Left field choice is a G-Wagen - very high depreciation floor, good for Russian mafia cosplay, and I can let it get dirty more than I would a normal car. Hilarious fuel economy might be the real drawback. And even there I am picky - I would want a pre-2003 or so car - unofficial import, or a 2013+ car, as I don't like the steering wheel and some other design on the ones in between,.
  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,705
    kyfdx said:

    class="Quote" rel="stickguy">am I a complete lunatic for actually being interested in this as a spare/2nd/beater car? Certainly won't mind tossing the dogs in this one! The interior is even the same color (yellow lab).

    Might just be the price talking to me. Since I am cheap a tightwad frugal

    http://www.royaleasing.com/detail-2007-saab-9~7x-awd_4dr_i6-used-17327683.html

    Ugh... it’s a Chevy Trailblazer...

    I’d go for the VW over the Saabrolet any day

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    Local vascular surgeon has a V8 Saabrolet. License plate reads "DED LEG". I wish that I was kidding.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    that AMG wagon had about 61K miles on it. Too steep for that price.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    you had me on the Passat. Until I looked at the picture, to find out it was actually an AT and not the stick the listed it as. I like those. Tried to buy one slightly used 10 years ago, but it got sold before I got there.

    Nice enough C300. But I would not look to pay that much for a 2015.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,291
    Wasn’t the suspension tuning different on the Saab? I never drove any of them, that I can recall. I’m surprised more of the Saab’s weren’t sold with the V8, since it’s a premium brand, and all. 
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    that SaabBlazer already sold. Someone must have liked it.

    and for those keeping track, the bright blue S60R from the other day (with the bad angle gear/AWD)? Bidding war broke out at the end, and it sold at $13,000. Someone hoping for the best.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    That makes no sense. Can buy a nice low mileage example for that dough.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    they have a super clean 2004 running now, with only 57,000 miles. Gray over beige. Much more subdued and looks nice. Bud oddly, no moonroof.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    Princeton Volvo is still sitting on this one for 8 mos now.
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/710824032/overview?aff=share_other

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    qbrozen said:
    Princeton Volvo is still sitting on this one for 8 mos now.
    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/710824032/overview?aff=share_other
    They’re smoking something good. Not to mention those aren’t the OEM wheels....
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    it definitely looked warmer when those pictures were taken. Looks like a nice one, and they note that the angle gear was worked on. One owner, local car, looks clean. So probably about as nice as you will find. Just priced too high I assume. Is that about a 13K car realistically? I thought the 2007 had a lot of improvements too.

    I drove one of these back in those days. Was actually a car in for service, and I was friendly with the woman that owned the dealership (paid to visit a lot!) She asked me to drive it for an unbiased opinion (complaint was IIRC it popped out of gear? Something with the shifter). So of course I obliged. Had no problems with it. I recall it felt like driving a muscle gear. massive thrust, and overall a "heavy" feel. But darned fun.

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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
    Nice nice
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,737
    edited February 2018
    I test drove a used one once upon a time back-to-back with a C30. I thought the C30 felt a bit cheap. The S60R impressed the heck out of me. Damned quick, and the adjustable suspension actually works. I put it in Advanced and whipped it around an empty parking lot. Fun.

    Value is beyond me. Manheim tells me even one with 60k miles would only fetch $4k. Of course, none have gone through with that little. I think $10k would still be an insane price, honestly. That one on BaT should have been a $6k car, at best.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    stickguy said:

    that SaabBlazer already sold. Someone must have liked it.

    and for those keeping track, the bright blue S60R from the other day (with the bad angle gear/AWD)? Bidding war broke out at the end, and it sold at $13,000. Someone hoping for the best.

    Well that was stupid. They could have just bought one, turn-key, ready to roll for that money.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    I looked at the comments. about 1/2 hour before it was supposed to end, it was sitting in the mid-6's. Then classic auction action started, with 2 guys wanting it and going after each other. Hope the winner really likes it.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's why auction results are not considered the sole basis for "fair market"--because of the emotional element. It's akin to the reverse situation--basing market prices only on distress sales.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,291
    Wasn’t the suspension tuning different on the Saab? I never drove any of them, that I can recall. I’m surprised more of the Saab’s weren’t sold with the V8, since it’s a premium brand, and all. 
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    It does list a "sport-tuned suspension" as "standard equipment" but that could just be GM corporate-babble, I don't know. The LS2 engine option sounds like it could have made the car fun to drive.
  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Sounds like would be sick car with the view probably river though right? Anyone 20 looking this weekend but raining on and off here all weekend so happy it’s not snow 
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    edited February 2018
    Weekend update - punch achieved. And I can confirm that the top goes down...more to come.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    tifighter said:

    Weekend update - punch achieved. And I can confirm that the top goes down...more to come.

    Nice! Which one?
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    Haha! Congrats, @fintail. Sounds like you made out great.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    Sounds like a great deal all around.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,501
    @tifighter

    Wait a minute. You said that Toyota 86 was your "friend's" car

    Congrats on the E350 Drop Top! Beautiful car! Nice price!

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Don't congratulate me, I didn't buy anything ;)

    When I do make a move (likely next year), it might be even wackier.

    Haha! Congrats, @fintail. Sounds like you made out great.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Yep, with designo, P2, and the nannies, you'd be at around 70K. This was the ex-Medina car, right?

    tifighter said:


    Advertised $25k, done for $24k. Guessing this car originally listed around $70k, @fintail might have a good guess. Took some games but got $20k trade on the 86 (thanks @qbrozen ) which I bought over the summer for $20,500, so I feel okay about it. Never bonded with that car.

    Anyhow, happy camper. For now ;)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    Doh! Congrats, @tifighter!
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    fintail said:

    Yep, with designo, P2, and the nannies, you'd be at around 70K. This was the ex-Medina car, right?

    Yes, same car. And correction on the color, its designo graphite exterior with black/anthracite/designo porcelain nappa interior. So now I'm feeling pretty fancy. Thanks Germans.

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  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,576
    edited February 2018
    Congrats @tifighter. Beautiful, awesome car! Pictures please.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    With designo paint, the MSRP probably crept over 70K

    I really like the porcelain interior surfaces, but they'll require maintenance, and definitely not something for pets or kids.
    tifighter said:



    Yes, same car. And correction on the color, its designo graphite exterior with black/anthracite/designo porcelain nappa interior. So now I'm feeling pretty fancy. Thanks Germans.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,291
    Nice! That makes five punches so far this year. 

    I had to drive about an hour and a half this morning. The roads were very iffy during the first part of the drive. I noticed that nearly all the cars that had spun out into the ditch were too old to be equipped with ESC. I kept it slow and steady until the roads got better a good ways south of town. Thankfully, no ESC activation or other drama during my drive.  B)
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    Congrats !
    And I would like to see pics of:
    'black/anthracite/designo porcelain nappa interior'
    Thanks,
    - Ray
    Unclear on what that all would look like...
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,330
    @tifighter - congrats!

    Along with the pics, you'll also need to update your signature line.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,688
    @tifighter Impressive! I am shocked at the trade value on that FR/S. $500 depreciation over six+ months? Where do I sign up for that?!
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,718
    @tifighter Congrats!

    Do you get a trade-in credit on the sales tax?

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    kyfdx said:

    @tifighter Congrats!

    Do you get a trade-in credit on the sales tax?

    Thanks. And yes, we do the credit in WA.

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  • tbirdmarcotbirdmarco Member Posts: 3,838
     Turn fighter congratulations on the new Audi drop top I know you talked about this car and some others a number of months ago sounds like a beautiful lovely car I knew that Toyota we’re not stick around for Long ha ha Ha 
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    xwesx said:

    @tifighter Impressive! I am shocked at the trade value on that FR/S. $500 depreciation over six+ months? Where do I sign up for that?!

    @xwesx Please, the 2017 is an 86, not an FRS. Those are for kids :p

    I lucked out last year. A red sport coupe wasn't really what I was after, but the dealer was pretty desperate to cut it loose after sitting on the lot for 4 months. And I was happy to help out. I enjoyed it, but ultimately, wanted to go another direction. I'll be curious to see what it gets listed at.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Pics or it didn't happen-



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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,919
    Congrats @tifighter!  That is beautiful!  

    And can’t beat the depreciation (or lack thereof) of the Toyota! 

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,355
    that is gorgeous. Enjoy it. Definitely different than the 86 of course.

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  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,070
    Gorgeous! Looks really large! Is it?
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    Different world than the Toyota indeed. Nicely optioned car, don't see them like that every day.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,331
    tifighter said:

    Pics or it didn't happen-



    Nice!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,287
    Wow, @tifighter , I love that E350 Cabrio. Congrats!

    The bloom went off the 86 pretty quickly.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,827
    Gorgeous car. 
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