Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

breld

I was targeting a 1991 Prelude Si when I graduated college, so am very fond of those. I ended up getting the newer generation 1993 version instead, which was quite the departure from the previous (and subsequent) style.

I agree - I wouldn't spend much more than $3k for that Prelude. As nostalgic as it is, if you start getting up to the $6, 7, 8k range, you could land a last gen Prelude like @nyccarguy has.

This just ended at $6,500.

2001 Prelude

breld

Darn it - now I'm looking.

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-honda-prelude-type-sh/6628878530.html

stickguy

love the seats on that prelude. Reminds me of the ones in my 1991 Mazda 626.

pensfan83

I don't think that's a bad price for that car. There was also a 2000 GS-R that went for $6,100 last week.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-acura-integra-gsr/

It's doubtful I'll go as high as $8-$9K but I'm starting to think I'll need to go up at least another grand and change to really have a chance at something like that Prelude.

nyccarguy

breld said:

I was targeting a 1991 Prelude Si when I graduated college, so am very fond of those. I ended up getting the newer generation 1993 version instead, which was quite the departure from the previous (and subsequent) style.

I agree - I wouldn't spend much more than $3k for that Prelude. As nostalgic as it is, if you start getting up to the $6, 7, 8k range, you could land a last gen Prelude like @nyccarguy has.

This just ended at $6,500.

2001 Prelude

Sharp car!

nyccarguy

Uh-Oh. Looks like I qualify for a $6,100 incentive on a 2019 F150 4X4 Super Crew.

jpp75

tifighter said:

Just got back from there. Where are you flying into?

I'm flying into Zurich, I have family in Lugano so I'll work my way down to Montreux/Geneva, then up to see them, then Interlaken and back to Zurich. Can't wait to see it all.

jpp75

The Accord hatchback on BAT ended up selling for $5,800. More than I would spend but there can't be many out there like it so that's probably still a decent price for a great car.

pensfan83

breld said:

Darn it - now I'm looking. https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-honda-prelude-type-sh/6628878530.html

Nice clean one there. Price looks good too.

tifighter

jpp5862 said:

tifighter said:

Just got back from there. Where are you flying into?

I'm flying into Zurich, I have family in Lugano so I'll work my way down to Montreux/Geneva, then up to see them, then Interlaken and back to Zurich. Can't wait to see it all.

Avoid the main highways if you have the time. Sustenpass, Grimselpass, Furkapass, Nufenenpass...drive as many as you can. You won't want anything bigger than a 2 series. Lugano has palm trees, which surprises many. Enjoy the trip!

corvette

nyccarguy said:

Uh-Oh. Looks like I qualify for a $6,100 incentive on a 2019 F150 4X4 Super Crew.

Are the 2019s out? I thought they only had 2018s on the lot when I drove one a couple weeks back.

28firefighter

I had no idea you could get a recent-gen 5 series in a stick: https://www.carmax.com/car-beta/16129738

stickguy

nice. just bad colors

corvette

No sport package, I think. 

qbrozen

I noticed those same negatives, PLUS the price! Holy cow! $16k is plenty for one with a handshaker.

You'd be lucky to get $12k on a trade.

28firefighter

I was just posting it because I didn’t even know it existed. If I wanted an old European car that was going to break my heart, I’d buy a Sa-...oh wait...

henryn

Those pictures of the two new puppies were entirely too cute.

I just lost my yellow lab to lymphoma last week, and I am thinking about picking up a new dog. My Boston Terrier mix has been looking pretty sad, missing her lifelong companion. But I don't know about a puppy, I swore off puppies a couple of decades back. Too much training, too many chewed up shoes. I much prefer an adult dog. But I will admit there is nothing more cute in the known universe.

qbrozen

Sorry to hear about your lab. That is always rough. And, yes, your remaining dog needs a companion.

stickguy

I work with a lab rescue, and have fostered a lot of dogs. I really prefer middle aged or better. At least 2. No more puppies, or really young adults (1 YO or so, basically 75 pound puppies!) So many mature and senior dogs need adopting (lot smaller market for them). 4+ YO is perfect.

xwesx

Ya, losing animals is a tough, but normal/understood, part of the relationship. I grew up on a ranch, and the animals there (even our pets) turned over quite regularly, so I grew up with a healthy dose of reality on those things. I enjoy them while I have them and let them go with relative ease.

My wife, though. She's not quite over-the-top, but she sure gets attached. Our last dog passed on nearly three years ago (should have been 3+, frankly, but she just wouldn't let go), and she still has no interest in getting another eventual heart breaker.

roadburner

28firefighter said:

I had no idea you could get a recent-gen 5 series in a stick: https://www.carmax.com/car-beta/16129738

But it's an F10; four-wheeled Sominex.

corvette

Sorry for your loss, henryn. It’s fortunate in a way that my Jack Russell / beagle mix doesn’t like other dogs. If that weren’t the case, I’d probably have a house full. She was three when I got her and was already housetrained and knew a few commands. I don’t think I could deal with a puppy, but they are cute. Instead, I enjoy my friends’ puppies. 

henryn

I used to do volunteer work in an animal shelter, a few decades back. I wanted to adopt every single one of them. I love puppies, but when I was working in the animal shelter I learned that puppies almost always get adopted. We had people coming in looking for puppies, would not consider an adult dog.

So I always adopt a rescue, an adult dog. My preference is 3 to 4 years, and female. Females are easier to break in to a new environment, they don't have to "mark their territory". And I tend to like bigger dogs.

Now this one caught my eye. Labrador Retriever / Newfoundland mix. That is going to be a big dog!

https://www.adoptapet.com/pet/21369935-houston-texas-labrador-retriever-mix

stickguy

oh, if you were up in Jersey I could hook you up!

28firefighter

Our dog was two years old when we rescued her - she had been rescued from a high-kill shelter in Elko, Nevada and brought up to Seattle by a pet rescue. 

Generally I agree with not having puppies, but even an older dog can have issues. Lila was afraid of me for the first few weeks (just ran away) and didn’t even know how to go up and down stairs.

28firefighter

https://www.bmwportland.com/certified/BMW/2015-BMW-320i-serving-portland-or-d6fda0f60a0d0cc73e5e1b3c3eadf108.htm

Certified, three pedals, lighting package, M suspension. For less than $20k. Seems like a bargain...

xwesx

28firefighter said:

Generally I agree with not having puppies, but even an older dog can have issues. Lila was afraid of me for the first few weeks (just ran away) and didn’t even know how to go up and down stairs.

Must have been a tough two years for the poor gal!

au1994

henryn said:

Those pictures of the two new puppies were entirely too cute.

I just lost my yellow lab to lymphoma last week, and I am thinking about picking up a new dog. My Boston Terrier mix has been looking pretty sad, missing her lifelong companion. But I don't know about a puppy, I swore off puppies a couple of decades back. Too much training, too many chewed up shoes. I much prefer an adult dog. But I will admit there is nothing more cute in the known universe.

Sorry for your loss. We lost our Dachshund a little over a year ago and it was very tough. Our new little guy is the first dog I’ve purchased from a breeder in 20 years or so. All others have been rescued so I’m a big fan and admire y’all that give of your time, money and emotions to support those causes. Like you, if I got into that I’d just keep ‘em all!

au1994

28firefighter said:

I had no idea you could get a recent-gen 5 series in a stick: https://www.carmax.com/car-beta/16129738

Yep, had to be pretty rare on the ground these days. My dealer had a 550i stick a few years ago. That was probably pretty fun if the chassis could keep up with the drive train. Unfortunately, in my F30 335i I found that wasn’t the case. Motor would pull like a freight train but the numb steering and chassis just didn’t give me as much confidence as my E92 or E46. I understand its getting better but I was still not a big fan of the steering feel in the last 3 series loaner I had.

I’d like to try out a 2 series. It’s supposed to be closer to the good old days of driving experience that BMW was known for.

nyccarguy

28firefighter said:

https://www.bmwportland.com/certified/BMW/2015-BMW-320i-serving-portland-or-d6fda0f60a0d0cc73e5e1b3c3eadf108.htm

Certified, three pedals, lighting package, M suspension. For less than $20k. Seems like a bargain...

Looks promising. Seems like a good candidate to be tuned properly by a reputable shop. What's the 0-60 mph time on something like that? Under 7 seconds? A tick or 2 over 7 seconds?

au1994

nyccarguy said:

28firefighter said:

https://www.bmwportland.com/certified/BMW/2015-BMW-320i-serving-portland-or-d6fda0f60a0d0cc73e5e1b3c3eadf108.htm

Certified, three pedals, lighting package, M suspension. For less than $20k. Seems like a bargain...

Looks promising. Seems like a good candidate to be tuned properly by a reputable shop. What's the 0-60 mph time on something like that? Under 7 seconds? A tick or 2 over 7 seconds?

In stock form the 2.0 is detuned to 180 or 185 hp I believe so I’d guess right around 7 sec to 60. On some of the BMW boards people like the Dinan tune for the 320 but I can recall how much it boosts hp and torque. I priced a Dinan tune once and it wasn’t cheap for what you got.

stickguy

I like that 320. Too bad about black interior. Could use a back up camera too.

But a stick RWD 3 series. Tradition!

roadburner

henryn said:

I used to do volunteer work in an animal shelter, a few decades back. I wanted to adopt every single one of them. I love puppies, but when I was working in the animal shelter I learned that puppies almost always get adopted. We had people coming in looking for puppies, would not consider an adult dog.

So I always adopt a rescue, an adult dog. My preference is 3 to 4 years, and female. Females are easier to break in to a new environment, they don't have to "mark their territory". And I tend to like bigger dogs.

Now this one caught my eye. Labrador Retriever / Newfoundland mix. That is going to be a big dog!

https://www.adoptapet.com/pet/21369935-houston-texas-labrador-retriever-mix

Sorry for your loss; I HATE losing a pet...

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

https://www.bmwportland.com/certified/BMW/2015-BMW-320i-serving-portland-or-d6fda0f60a0d0cc73e5e1b3c3eadf108.htm

Certified, three pedals, lighting package, M suspension. For less than $20k. Seems like a bargain...

Fair price for CPO, and if I allow the options to zero out the value hit on the stick.

nyccarguy

au1994 said:

28firefighter said:

I had no idea you could get a recent-gen 5 series in a stick: https://www.carmax.com/car-beta/16129738

Yep, had to be pretty rare on the ground these days. My dealer had a 550i stick a few years ago. That was probably pretty fun if the chassis could keep up with the drive train. Unfortunately, in my F30 335i I found that wasn’t the case. Motor would pull like a freight train but the numb steering and chassis just didn’t give me as much confidence as my E92 or E46. I understand its getting better but I was still not a big fan of the steering feel in the last 3 series loaner I had.

I’d like to try out a 2 series. It’s supposed to be closer to the good old days of driving experience that BMW was known for.

Since coupes aren't "in fashion" anymore, there seems to be a decent amount of reasonably priced CPO 2 Series with lower than average mileage.

benjaminh

2012 Cadillac CTS with 20k miles 18.5k....

https://www.acuraatoxmoor.com/used/CADILLAC/2012-CADILLAC-CTS-073468ae0a0e0ae70ae069c0244a4e3e.htm?_vsrefdom=p.685

roadburner

au1994 said:

28firefighter said:

I had no idea you could get a recent-gen 5 series in a stick: https://www.carmax.com/car-beta/16129738

Yep, had to be pretty rare on the ground these days. My dealer had a 550i stick a few years ago. That was probably pretty fun if the chassis could keep up with the drive train. Unfortunately, in my F30 335i I found that wasn’t the case. Motor would pull like a freight train but the numb steering and chassis just didn’t give me as much confidence as my E92 or E46. I understand its getting better but I was still not a big fan of the steering feel in the last 3 series loaner I had.

I’d like to try out a 2 series. It’s supposed to be closer to the good old days of driving experience that BMW was known for.

The 2er is a LOT of fun- it kept me in the BMW family; the only replacements I'd consider are the M2 Competition and the Giulia/Stelvio Quadrifoglio.

qbrozen

breld said:

jpp5862 said:

stickguy said:

Love that generation. Too bad it isn’t a 5 speed.

Agreed. The 90 - 93 was probably my favorite but this is a very close second. Still at $3,400 with just over an hour to go.

I like the hatchback from that late '80's era Accord, and yes, I'd prefer a manual for such a car. I would also hope the extra molding they stuck on would peel off - that's horrendous.

The Sentra SE-R from BAT that @jpp5862 and @michaell also sent me is interesting as well, but at $7,400 current bid, seems a bit rich.

What year Sentra?

EDIT: This one? Wow!!! that went for way too much, IMHO!
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-nissan-sentra-se-r-3/

au1994

nyccarguy said:

au1994 said:

28firefighter said:

I had no idea you could get a recent-gen 5 series in a stick: https://www.carmax.com/car-beta/16129738

Yep, had to be pretty rare on the ground these days. My dealer had a 550i stick a few years ago. That was probably pretty fun if the chassis could keep up with the drive train. Unfortunately, in my F30 335i I found that wasn’t the case. Motor would pull like a freight train but the numb steering and chassis just didn’t give me as much confidence as my E92 or E46. I understand its getting better but I was still not a big fan of the steering feel in the last 3 series loaner I had.

I’d like to try out a 2 series. It’s supposed to be closer to the good old days of driving experience that BMW was known for.

Since coupes aren't "in fashion" anymore, there seems to be a decent amount of reasonably priced CPO 2 Series with lower than average mileage.

Convertibles too. Those are very tempting to me but a small convertible doesn’t really work for us right now. But I’m sure the CCBA’er in me could justify it somehow.

iluvmysephia1

I just lost my yellow lab to lymphoma last week, and I am thinking about picking up a new dog. My Boston Terrier mix has been looking pretty sad, missing her lifelong companion. But I don't know about a puppy, I swore off puppies a couple of decades back. Too much training, too many chewed up shoes. I much prefer an adult dog. But I will admit there is nothing more cute in the known universe.

Sorry to hear this, henryn. I'm still stinging from the loss of Cotey, our 14 year old Pomeranian. Really, really hurts still. We get so close to them.

stickguy

If you really want a hot rod Sentra, this is much newer.

https://www.subaruofcherryhill.com/used/Nissan/2011-Nissan-Sentra-cherry-hill-nj-738b5cb50a0e0ae8572324cc6ec1ac1f.htm?searchDepth=12:31

PF_Flyer

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iluvmysephia1

That's 6 years older than the base one I'm looking at. It would be nice to get the newer tech and fresher mileage plus the warranty coverage that the Las Vegas dealer offers for only $12,487. 2017 Nissan Sentra S 6-speed in the silver color.

nyccarguy

This Black/Red ///M235i X Drive is nice: http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/2015-BMW-m235i-xdrive-WBA1J9C56FVX99241?zip=06902

This Sapphire Black/Brown RWD ///M235i has a decent amount of miles and is priced nicely: http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/2015-BMW-m235i-WBA1J7C59FV253943?zip=06902

Then we have this 10K mile drop top listed for under $32K: http://cpo.bmwusa.com/certified/2015-BMW-m235i-WBA1J7C59FV253943?zip=06902

28firefighter

I'm such an unbelievable sucker for the saddle interior.

nyccarguy

Looks like the Black/Red one suffered quite the boo-boo according to the CarFax:

4/23/2018

Damage Reported
Structural Damage Reported
Damage to Right Front
Damage to Right Rear
Damage to Front

iluvmysephia1

qbrozen, that 1991 Nissan Sentra wasn't that cool ta sell for $12,000. Whoa, I agree! No matter how much umphff they tried to build into it.

au1994

nyccarguy said:

Looks like the Black/Red one suffered quite the boo-boo according to the CarFax:

4/23/2018

Damage Reported
Structural Damage Reported
Damage to Right Front
Damage to Right Rear
Damage to Front

Yikes! Run away!!

There was a 2015 235i convertible in silver at my dealer with a ridiculously low 8k miles with a very similar Carfax, including the Structural Damage Reported note. It got as low as 31k and then disappeared from their site so it either went to auction or someone took a chance on it.

pensfan83

For today's BaT headscratcher....what in the world? And there's still 6 days to go. Am I missing something?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-toyota-4runner-5/

au1994

pensfan83 said:

For today's BaT headscratcher....what in the world? And there's still 6 days to go. Am I missing something?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-toyota-4runner-5/

No idea on that. 152k miles for that money? Dash has a cover on it too. Wonder if that is hiding cracks?