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at the moment, I think a slightly used TLX is leading the pack!
https://www.redbankvolvocars.com/certified/Volvo/2015-Volvo-S60-for-sale-Red-Bank-NJ-6bfb0c740a0e08bd2608277778aea302.htm
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://www.courtesyacura.com/inventory/certified-used-2015-acura-tlx-2-4-8-dct-p-aws-fwd-4d-sedan-19uub1f34fa007833
Although really for me AndroidAuto and AcuraWatch are very high priorities, and this one lacks both of those features. Plus I have ELS sound, navi in case I forget my phone, auto wipers, etc., etc.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
https://www.eliteacura.com/inventory/certified-used-2017-acura-tlx-3-5-v-6-9-at-p-aws-with-technology-package-fwd-4dr-car-19uub2f58ha003147
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/711610814/overview/
I realize you keep saying you don't need AcuraWatch or CarPlay/AndroidAuto, but you've also said quite often that you want the newer technology on your next car. To state the obvious, that is the newer tech. Did you never use CarPlay for navigation in your Elantra Sport? In terms of AcuraWatch it adds the adaptive cruise control, the lane keeping feature, etc. This doesn't drive the car for you, but just adds a little assist in case on the Interstate in light traffic you drift slightly while changing the radio station or something. My guess is that my fellow 2018 TLX owners will back me up on AcuraWatch being a useful set of features.
Finally, a used 2017 car @ $28k, unless I'm missing something, can't be leased, which as you know means higher monthly payments. Since the 2018 can be leased the monthly payments will be significantly lower than for the 2017. Also, since the 2018 does have all the latest and greatest you'll be less likely to say in a couple of years "Oh, if only my car had the latest technology—I'm back in the hunt for a new car!" But with the 2018 you could just turn it in after 3 years and be in the hunt for something else if you want—rather than trying to sell or trade-in the 2017 yourself (which wouldn't be a pretty picture imho). Or if you still love the 2018 you'll have the buyout option for c. 19.5k at the end of the lease. Just a thought.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
I only use CarPlay for Navi, but the 17 has Navi built in, with real time traffic. So good enough. And adaptive cruise is not important to me. I almost never use CC anyway. Just don’t like it.
There really isn’t anything missing on a 17 tech from my wish list.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But since you're an Apple CarPlay person used to a seemingly not as good system, perhaps the built-in will be good enough for you.
I won't ever use the built-in navi in my TLX unless somehow I forget my phone or something. The built-in is really an inferior system in terms of its maps, voice recognition, interface, etc.
Plus the CPO I can buy instead and make it a long term keeper. I’m not specifically looking to lease, that’s more of a case by case situation.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I happen to think a CPO TLX V6 Tech is a great value. I too fall into the camp that if it had Nav, I don't need CarPlay.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
But, my note will be paid off at the end of the year (and I'm finally earning more interest in an online savings acct. than I'm paying in loan interest! Woo Hoo! Not considering taxes on the earned interest, of course. Just let me live the fantasy...). I'll try to go a while in year 6 of XF ownership with no car payments, see what happens. Out of warranty...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
And for this week's BaT temptation. My Dad had this car's twin when I was 4 years old and is what hooked me on cars for good.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
My biggest concern is the difficulty reported in engaging first gear.
School children coming by asking for money for their school extra-curricular organization. Not selling anything, just going door-to-door, asking for money. Public school.
Why not just hang out on the corner and fly your flag, like the rest of the people asking for money?
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The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Unless I lease, I will wait until she can get that done before buying something, so I can transfer my current registration which has another 3 (maybe 4) years. Save a lot of money that way.
would have been easier to just trade it in and both buy new. Well, easier for me! But she is getting a good deal out of it. Our subsidy is a graduation present.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
https://www.eliteacura.com/inventory/certified-used-2015-acura-tlx-2-4-8-dct-p-aws-with-technology-package-fwd-4dr-car-19uub1f51fa014448
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Personally, I think the carfax is pretty bad. Painted fender and repaired seat upholstery? Sounds like a rough 27k miles.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
We could finance it, but is actually cheaper to get her own loan. Plus makes her independent. Of course, we are here if needed to back her up. That, and I need the cash to put into a replacement car.
And don’t say wedding unless you want to give me a heart attack.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/744491394/overview?aff=share_other
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I live on a cul-de-sac and know everyone in my neighborhood. I know the kids. But, invariably, some teens/tweens I don't recognize start coming to my door (about this time of year) stating they are with the band/football team/soccer team/cheerleaders, etc and are raising money. It's ordinarily the old "I'll sell you this $1 candy bar for $10" type of deal. Just as often, they offer nothing in return, though. They just want money.
When I inquire who their coach, conducted, or sponsor is, I get a bland stare. Using kids for scams, or being kids who are scamming, that just grates on me. I send them on their way, warning them it's probably not a good idea to continue the scam, as I know everyone in the neighborhood.
One of our sports teams sells/delivers mulch in the Spring. They'll even distribute the bags around your yard, if that's what you want. I have no problem with that. At least they are earning it.
But, begging? I draw the line at that. Plus, you know.. I pay property taxes to fund the schools. I'm a big supporter of public education. But, please don't teach our children to beg.
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You (the collective you, or y’all as we would say here in the south), don’t quite seem to grasp the content.
My son sang in the choir when he was in school, along with many other activities. The choir took a trip every year, and that trip was not paid for by the school district. As indeed, it should not have been. So the money had to come from somewhere. Many of the kids had families that could pay their share. And many didn’t. What were they supposed to do, leave behind the kids who couldn’t afford it? Not a good idea, in my opinion. So they sold fruit baskets. Big baskets of fresh fruit, grapefruits, oranges, etc. And everyone got to go on the trip.
While my son was still too young to drive, I spent a lot of hours driving around, delivering those fruit baskets. Just part of the overhead of being a parent.
Yes, I’m opposed to scammers. Big difference, though.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S