Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

ab348

Congratulations on the new Ioniq, Q. That pricing is way, way lower than anything available up here.

explorerx4

@xwesx,
When I bought my car 3 months ago, I got an online quote, but when it came to initially talking numbers, they claimed not to know anything about it.
They started scrambling when I showed it to them on my phone.
Now that I think of it, that pretty much happened on my last purchases.

qbrozen

corvette said:

Updating the punch list - is this a 2019 or 2020?

'19

https://www.freeholdhyundai.com/new/Hyundai/2019-Hyundai-Ioniq+Plug-In+Hybrid-8a79c14a0a0e0a6b4da79abd49aded43.htm

28firefighter

There are few things more satisfying, to me, than paying less than $300 at signing and driving away with a sub $300 payment. The excitement when I drove off in the i3 at $225 was amazing. You must be over the moon, @qbrozen.

I did not buy a car today, but I did book a cruise to Alaska for my parents' 35th Anniversary. My family, my sister, my brother, and my parents. If you folks haven't used CruiseCompete.com, I highly recommend it.

qbrozen

The hard part will be to STOP LOOKING!!

28firefighter

The struggle is real.

pensfan83

So true. I'm 8 months out but have been browsing for 4

tjc78

28firefighter said:

There are few things more satisfying, to me, than paying less than $300 at signing and driving away with a sub $300 payment. The excitement when I drove off in the i3 at $225 was amazing. You must be over the moon, @qbrozen.

I did not buy a car today, but I did book a cruise to Alaska for my parents' 35th Anniversary. My family, my sister, my brother, and my parents. If you folks haven't used CruiseCompete.com, I highly recommend it.

I so want to do an Alaska Cruise. Wife... not so much.

corvette

Does Hyundai allow lease transfers? There might be a cottage industry in leasing these things and swapping them to people who live in states where there aren’t as many incentives.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

The hard part will be to STOP LOOKING!!

good point. Considering the only logic option is to sell the Charger, and that should not be on the table!

though I suppose a lease swap on the X2 could work.....

breld

@28firefighter - lucky you on the cruise!

We did that for my in-laws 50th anniversary a couple summers ago. I loved the scenery and would do another Alaska cruise in a heartbeat, but my wife was not as enamored.

stickguy

28firefighter said:

I may need to revise my estimate for 2020...

might be a good idea. I think I got put on "the clock" tonight. Was talking about cars over dinner (after 35 years, what else is there to talk about?) On the way home I mentioned since it was supposed to be so

warm I would wash the cars, and if I got ambitious might wax her car (though was not sure it needed it). And I tossed out a "maybe I should not bother, though it probably wasn't going away any time soon".

her response was along the lines of "it probably will, it's time". Shocked me! though she did toss in the obligatory (but half hearted) "I don't want a payment".

She still isn't sure what she wants (or more accurately, if we can afford something really fancy). So we will go out and drive a few things (and the car show is next month so can sit in everything possible other than the BMW which won't be there, but we did check that out at the dealer last month.

probably 2 months until the HELOC (and last remnants of college bills!) is fully paid off. So that is a big monthly nut disappearing. Replacing it with a car payment 1/4 as big should not hurt too much!

at least I should have free reign to stop and do some more test drives. Then after the car show will have to pin her down to what exactly she wants then see if I can make it happen!

stickguy

I know it isn't the most exciting model, but for the lowish miles and CPO so almost 2 years of BtoB warranty, at the price does not seem like that bad of a deal. Plus I love the colors! For a decent priced 2nd car that isn't a penalty box, could do worse.

https://www.bmwofturnersville.com/inventory/certified-used-2016-bmw-3-series-320i-xdrive-all-wheel-drive-sedan-wba8e5g54gnt40409

laurasdada

New cars to the left of me, new cars to the right of me; into the valley of The Boston International Auto Show charge I next Friday! Sigh.

Congrats QB on a great bahgin!

qbrozen

No transfers for Hyundai.

Wife loves her X2, so that ain't goin nowhere.

And, no, neither is the Daytona. There is nothing I'd rather have for $10k, I anticipate it will be super reliable, I never see myself driving the other way down the road, I get nonstop compliments, and the list goes on.

sda

qbrozen said:

No transfers for Hyundai.

Wife loves her X2, so that ain't goin nowhere.

And, no, neither is the Daytona. There is nothing I'd rather have for $10k, I anticipate it will be super reliable, I never see myself driving the other way down the road, I get nonstop compliments, and the list goes on.

Given all your recent projects and unfortunate knee injury, have you been able to work on the Coronet? How much additional work does it require?

stickguy

yeah, you have had a lot of "appliance" cars (some very nice, some just wheels) but the Daytona looks like a LT keeper.

so you are out of the market for a while. Unless of course, you find a nice toy!

once I get the wife focused, I will subcontract to you to help locate a deal for me. You can get a fix that way!

28firefighter

My wife and I did an Alaska cruise out of Seattle about 6 years ago. The novelty of sailing from our “home” port. We went to Glacier Bay on Princess.

We’re doing a different itinerary this go around out to the Hubbard glacier.

roadburner

kyfdx said:

roadburner said:

The Cincinnati Stinger GTS sold; there’s another one at a dealer south of Lexington and I plan to take a day off next week to go look at it. I would go check it out tomorrow but I have too many other obligations. If worse comes to worse I can talk to the GM at the local dealer but I consider that to be the absolute last resort.

Somerset?

Nicholasville.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

So wife and I discussed and decided, since I don’t know this random broker from Adam, and since broker only had black or white examples, I should give local dealer a chance (Dark gray paint). I emailed salesperson at 1pm to explain I had an offer in hand, and if they could match, we’ll take it. Broker was “about $153 + $199 fee.” If I take that at face value, that’s $158.50/mo equivalent. So I offered dealer $159/mo with $159 at signing. Heard nothing for a few hours, so I texted his cell. About 20 mins later, he said manager accepts and we can pick it up tomorrow at noon.

Excellent.

stickguy

I really have no interest in doing a cruise on a big boat, but would like to try a riverboat cruise in Europe at some point. My wife though, doesn't even want to do that. And will never go on a big liner. Just not our "thing".

qbrozen

sda said:

qbrozen said:

No transfers for Hyundai.

Wife loves her X2, so that ain't goin nowhere.

And, no, neither is the Daytona. There is nothing I'd rather have for $10k, I anticipate it will be super reliable, I never see myself driving the other way down the road, I get nonstop compliments, and the list goes on.

Given all your recent projects and unfortunate knee injury, have you been able to work on the Coronet? How much additional work does it require?

Don’t remind me. It just stares at me from its garage bay with woeful eyes.

The list is extensive. I’m not even sure what order to tackle it in. I think steering rack first, then headers, the lifters, then heads, and so forth.

stickguy

so, just yank the engine out entirely to make it easier to all those jobs? It works on Wheeler Dealers!

elias

hi folks and happy 2020! On last day of GMC december incentives I bought a 'loaded' 2019 GMC Terrain Diesel AWD for 25% off MSRP, approx $32000 OTD before the $1200 GM card rebate. Lifetime GM card redemption over $19k now. Terrain is wife's DD. Her 016 sonic stick is now my youngest son's car. My two cars remain the 017 cruze diesel stick (55k) and 015 SS sedan stick (64k). many long roadtrips planned and since last post, will mention those in road trip forum. soon one of these vehicles may be residing in Florida full-time (Vero Beach near indian river inlet).

nyccarguy

Steve Elias said:

hi folks and happy 2020! On last day of GMC december incentives I bought a 'loaded' 2019 GMC Terrain Diesel AWD for 25% off MSRP, approx $32000 OTD before the $1200 GM card rebate. Lifetime GM card redemption over $19k now. Terrain is wife's DD. Her 016 sonic stick is now my youngest son's car. My two cars remain the 017 cruze diesel stick (55k) and 015 SS sedan stick (64k). many long roadtrips planned and since last post, will mention those in road trip forum. soon one of these vehicles may be residing in Florida full-time (Vero Beach near indian river inlet).

Awesome! The punches just keep on coming!

elias

Selecting a plus tire size for curb protection? no no. you may be protecting the rim but curbing a tire is bad too. don't do it or you will destroy/bubble your tires. i wonder what people mean by 'curbing' too.... my interpretation is that it is a thing that happens unintentionally while parking. driving over a curb is not called 'curbing' - it is called 'driving over a curb'. don't do that either unless you have a vehicle that is supposed to do offroad stuff like crawling over big rocks.

elias

coworker has a porsche cayenne stickshift he will soon trade for a Taycan. it is the final model year that stickshift was offered in Cayenne... it needs a transfer case, dealer wants to swap it but i know there is a dude named Guenter somewhere in New England who can probably fix it for $200. coworker will sell it to me for the trade-in value if i want it when Taycan arrives. i just bought a GMC "CUV" for wifey but am interested in his Cayenne too. would it drive OK as a FWD with the transfer case removed? ;}

nyccarguy

Steve Elias said:

coworker has a porsche cayenne stickshift he will soon trade for a Taycan. it is the final model year that stickshift was offered in Cayenne... it needs a transfer case, dealer wants to swap it but i know there is a dude named Guenter somewhere in New England who can probably fix it for $200. coworker will sell it to me for the trade-in value if i want it when Taycan arrives. i just bought a GMC "CUV" for wifey but am interested in his Cayenne too. would it drive OK as a FWD with the transfer case removed? ;}

That will literally be the most expensive $200 you ever spend. Don't fool yourself into thinking that anything can be done on a Cayenne can be done for $200, maybe an oil change.

nyccarguy

This unusually warm weather is both good and bad. It is bad if you sell plumbing & heating supplies for a living and this is supposed to be your "busy" season. It is bad if your 10 year old doesn't have any hockey games this weekend because he got suspended, your 13 year old only has 1 game Sunday night, & you want to go skiing for the "no hockey" day. It is good if you have a well maintained 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH that's been staring at you when you leave and come home every day.

I fired up the Prelude this AM. It took a few cranks to turn over. Heat on. Sunroof open. It is amazing how warm the upper 40's feel. I just had such a pleasant drive to work this AM. My Prelude is simply a joy to drive.

elias

Son & daughter-in-law have third child yet she selected Tahoe rather than a minivan which I had recommended. They traded their 2018 cruze diesel stick for the 2019 Tahoe.  i copied them quickly by purchasing a same-color/same-packages Terrain as a sort of 'mini Tahoe' for my wife.

explorerx4

I think a Cayenne is RWD and the transfer case engages the front wheels.

stickguy

that would be correct. You can't just remove it, but if it isn't functioning as intended you just don't get FWD probably. I assume you could remove the prop shaft to the front (I think some people do this on AWD Volvos when the angle gear goes) but entirely possible that would wreck havoc on the electronic warning systems.

elias

mb_enthusiast said:

I am itching so badly to buy a 2015 Mercedes-Benz GL 63 AMG right now.

In other news, low hanging tree branches cracked my windshield. :@

Those AMG 63s are surely a blast to drive. Reliable though? Mercedes? HA!

Btw in another forum I saw a post from a tree branch which said it was minding its own business when a windshield came along and cracked it.

elias

corvette said:

The GMC Canyon my parents had (same in-line 5 engine) had repeated misfire issues - spark plugs and coils had to be replaced on multiple visits. Part of why they traded it for the Element.

No misfire issues on son's canyon diesel in its first 60k miles or so. No DEF issues. No issues with spark plugs or coils either! No factory issues at all. One significant dealer mistake with oil change, resulting in next 5 oil changes free, and the diesel oil changes are pricey.

oldfarmer50

Steve Elias said:

hi folks and happy 2020! On last day of GMC december incentives I bought a 'loaded' 2019 GMC Terrain Diesel AWD for 25% off MSRP, approx $32000 OTD before the $1200 GM card rebate. Lifetime GM card redemption over $19k now. Terrain is wife's DD. Her 016 sonic stick is now my youngest son's car. My two cars remain the 017 cruze diesel stick (55k) and 015 SS sedan stick (64k). many long roadtrips planned and since last post, will mention those in road trip forum. soon one of these vehicles may be residing in Florida full-time (Vero Beach near indian river inlet).

Congrats on both counts.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

This unusually warm weather is both good and bad. It is bad if you sell plumbing & heating supplies for a living and this is supposed to be your "busy" season. It is bad if your 10 year old doesn't have any hockey games this weekend because he got suspended, your 13 year old only has 1 game Sunday night, & you want to go skiing for the "no hockey" day. It is good if you have a well maintained 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH that's been staring at you when you leave and come home every day.

I fired up the Prelude this AM. It took a few cranks to turn over. Heat on. Sunroof open. It is amazing how warm the upper 40's feel. I just had such a pleasant drive to work this AM. My Prelude is simply a joy to drive.

Did you ever canvas the other parents to see if anyone’s cell phone caught the first punch?

As to skiing, NY north of Glens Falls still has snow and of course there’s Vermont. Tons of snow. Ski in your bathing suit this weekend.

kyfdx

roadburner said:

kyfdx said:

roadburner said:

The Cincinnati Stinger GTS sold; there’s another one at a dealer south of Lexington and I plan to take a day off next week to go look at it. I would go check it out tomorrow but I have too many other obligations. If worse comes to worse I can talk to the GM at the local dealer but I consider that to be the absolute last resort.

Somerset?

Nicholasville.

Ah.. given Nicholasville Rd traffic, I just consider that part of Lexington.. lol

kyfdx

stickguy said:

I really have no interest in doing a cruise on a big boat, but would like to try a riverboat cruise in Europe at some point. My wife though, doesn't even want to do that. And will never go on a big liner. Just not our "thing".

We did that this past August.

I'll mention this, since I think we are close in age. You'll be in the lowest 20th percentile in age bracket on the boat. Not that big of an issue, as the groups are pretty self-selecting as far as being active, bu that's part of it.

nyccarguy

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

This unusually warm weather is both good and bad. It is bad if you sell plumbing & heating supplies for a living and this is supposed to be your "busy" season. It is bad if your 10 year old doesn't have any hockey games this weekend because he got suspended, your 13 year old only has 1 game Sunday night, & you want to go skiing for the "no hockey" day. It is good if you have a well maintained 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH that's been staring at you when you leave and come home every day.

I fired up the Prelude this AM. It took a few cranks to turn over. Heat on. Sunroof open. It is amazing how warm the upper 40's feel. I just had such a pleasant drive to work this AM. My Prelude is simply a joy to drive.

Did you ever canvas the other parents to see if anyone’s cell phone caught the first punch?

As to skiing, NY north of Glens Falls still has snow and of course there’s Vermont. Tons of snow. Ski in your bathing suit this weekend.

North of Glens Falls is a little too far for a day trip. We went to Windham a week or so ago and it was muddy, grassy, & icy.

There’s really not an appeals process that I know of. As much as it stinks, my son did punch another player and the referee saw it. I don’t want to delay this any more.

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

oldfarmer50 said:

nyccarguy said:

This unusually warm weather is both good and bad. It is bad if you sell plumbing & heating supplies for a living and this is supposed to be your "busy" season. It is bad if your 10 year old doesn't have any hockey games this weekend because he got suspended, your 13 year old only has 1 game Sunday night, & you want to go skiing for the "no hockey" day. It is good if you have a well maintained 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH that's been staring at you when you leave and come home every day.

I fired up the Prelude this AM. It took a few cranks to turn over. Heat on. Sunroof open. It is amazing how warm the upper 40's feel. I just had such a pleasant drive to work this AM. My Prelude is simply a joy to drive.

Did you ever canvas the other parents to see if anyone’s cell phone caught the first punch?

As to skiing, NY north of Glens Falls still has snow and of course there’s Vermont. Tons of snow. Ski in your bathing suit this weekend.

North of Glens Falls is a little too far for a day trip. We went to Windham a week or so ago and it was muddy, grassy, & icy.

There’s really not an appeals process that I know of. As much as it stinks, my son did punch another player and the referee saw it. I don’t want to delay this any more.

That's a good way to go for your son. Take your medicine, learn from the experience.

stickguy

agreed about the kid. If nothing else, will learn a lesson about retaliating. Nothing stopping you of course from filing a written protest with your side of the story (about the other kids action) just to have it on record!

Walt, my parents after they retired started doing those riverboat cruises. Based on their pictures, I know what you mean about the demographics. I am not too worried about that. Probably better than being on a boat swarming with little kids or 20 something party animals

tjc78

I fired up the Prelude this AM. It took a few cranks to turn over. Heat on. Sunroof open. It is amazing how warm the upper 40's feel. I just had such a pleasant drive to work this AM. My Prelude is simply a joy to drive.

I'm sure it was a bit spirited as well. I love those early morning weekend drives.

ab348

I've always had a fear of traveling on oceangoing ships so a cruise has never been on my radar. Now that I've seen various and sundry videos of cruise ship disasters I feel like my irrational fears might not be totally irrational.

tjc78

My favorite vacations I've ever taken were our two cruises. Even the one that ended with super storm Sandy.

So much to do, multiple islands in a week, food and booze everywhere. The new NCL ships even have a go cart track.

graphicguy

@qbrozen ....dang....big congrats on the GREAT deal!

@roadburner ....sorry, didn’t look over hear to see your post. Good luck in Nicholasville. I think you have the “deal” in hand of the offerings up here. Thinking it should be a pretty easy deal, if you decide to go with the GTS. Good luck!

I want very badly want to cruise in Alaska. Now, I just need to find someone who want to do it with me.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

agreed about the kid. If nothing else, will learn a lesson about retaliating. Nothing stopping you of course from filing a written protest with your side of the story (about the other kids action) just to have it on record!

Walt, my parents after they retired started doing those riverboat cruises. Based on their pictures, I know what you mean about the demographics. I am not too worried about that. Probably better than being on a boat swarming with little kids or 20 something party animals

It was interesting.. 14 days, five countries.

I wouldn't do it again, but I'm glad we did it. Enjoyable, and a lot of history. Good guides. We've only been on one ocean cruise. Wasn't a big fan. The accommodations on a riverboat cruise are much more spacious, and a great view from every cabin.

jmonroe

qbrozen said:

corvette said:

Updating the punch list - is this a 2019 or 2020?

'19

https://www.freeholdhyundai.com/new/Hyundai/2019-Hyundai-Ioniq+Plug-In+Hybrid-8a79c14a0a0e0a6b4da79abd49aded43.htm

Congrats on the punch. Have fun with it and give us your early impressetions.

My how times change. In 2005 when I came to Edmunds and visited the old forum, Stories From the Sales Front Lines or something like that, I was maybe the second guy, I think @snakeweasel was the other dope who owned a throwaway. Now it's almost fashionable to own one. Not many people can say they are ahead of the curve but that's a burden I've learned to live with for most of my life.

Congrats again.

jmonroe

jmonroe

Steve Elias said:

corvette said:

The GMC Canyon my parents had (same in-line 5 engine) had repeated misfire issues - spark plugs and coils had to be replaced on multiple visits. Part of why they traded it for the Element.

No misfire issues on son's canyon diesel in its first 60k miles or so. No DEF issues. No issues with spark plugs or coils either! No factory issues at all. One significant dealer mistake with oil change, resulting in next 5 oil changes free, and the diesel oil changes are pricey.

I don't know about the others in here but I like to hear about how the dealer screwed up an oil change. That's almost impossible to believe. Ah man, say it ain't so, please. I thought only DIYers did stuff like that.

jmonroe

qbrozen

jmonroe said:

qbrozen said:

corvette said:

Updating the punch list - is this a 2019 or 2020?

'19

https://www.freeholdhyundai.com/new/Hyundai/2019-Hyundai-Ioniq+Plug-In+Hybrid-8a79c14a0a0e0a6b4da79abd49aded43.htm

Congrats on the punch. Have fun with it and give us your early impressetions.

My how times change. In 2005 when I came to Edmunds and visited the old forum, Stories From the Sales Front Lines or something like that, I was maybe the second guy, I think @snakeweasel was the other dope who owned a throwaway. Now it's almost fashionable to own one. Not many people can say they are ahead of the curve but that's a burden I've learned to live with for most of my life.

Congrats again.

jmonroe

What does “a throwaway” mean?

mjfloyd1

I assume throwaway means a beater