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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,117
    Amazon Prime music works well with CarPlay as well.

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,219
    Yes, we now have a crisis of epic proportions: Tom Brady has left the building.
    Unless it's a pre-April Fools joke?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    pensfan83 said:

    The Acura is the home vehicle for our XM subscription but I stream it through the BT in the truck. It sounds pretty good.

    How does it work with stations and changing them? Need to handle the phone?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    tjc78 said:

    Amazon Prime music works well with CarPlay as well.

    Good to know. I already pay for that too!

    I think I will call them and unless they offer a really cheap plan will let it go, cancel the account, and ask for a refund. Then just set up streaming under the trial account (new number) created for the new car. Definitely keeping that for the wife, and traveling.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,564
    Question for you tech savvy posters out there. We have Alexia (plural of Alexa) in our house. I pay for the Amazon music every month to go with it. Can I download songs onto my phone with the amazon music app so I don't have to pay for apple music?

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,117
    stickguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    The Acura is the home vehicle for our XM subscription but I stream it through the BT in the truck. It sounds pretty good.

    How does it work with stations and changing them? Need to handle the phone?
    I know you can do it from the screen, can't remember if the steering wheel controls work.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    stickguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    The Acura is the home vehicle for our XM subscription but I stream it through the BT in the truck. It sounds pretty good.

    How does it work with stations and changing them? Need to handle the phone?
    The truck doesn't have AA or CarPlay so I don't think I would be able to switch channels other than through the phone.
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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    tjc78 said:

    I'm a Pats fan

    It's ok, we still like you. B)

    Just not as much as before he opened his BIG mouth. :o

    jmonroe

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,769
    pensfan83 said:

    stickguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    The Acura is the home vehicle for our XM subscription but I stream it through the BT in the truck. It sounds pretty good.

    How does it work with stations and changing them? Need to handle the phone?
    The truck doesn't have AA or CarPlay so I don't think I would be able to switch channels other than through the phone.
    What about the Toyota Entune app?

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,732
    tjc78 said:

    I have to think that allowing streaming on all plans has hit their bottom line a bit. Unless you have a very limited data plan it makes sense to just carry it in one vehicle and stream in the other.

    Depends on cell network availability. In more remote areas of the country, you won't get streaming service to work, but the satellite-based XM will keep on trucking. Same goes for Canada, etc.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    well, suburban Philly and the NE I95 corridor is pretty much the opposite of a remote area, so not a big issue!

    can be like the 70's, travelling through the boonies of central NYS with just an AM radio. Mostly listening to farm reports!

    if I do "cut the satellite", I will need to load up a bunch of music to my iTunes and hope that works.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,966
    edited March 2020
    Michaell said:

    jmonroe said:

    suydam said:

    I was surprised it sold for that much. When I was in Ohio RWD trucks were a hard sell. 4WD trucks are the norm and really hold their value well.

    Yes but @Michaell's clan is in Southern CA so no need for 2 more drive wheels that reduces MPG for those who care.

    jmonroe
    Yep, my sister and family are in San Diego.

    However, when I lived in CA I had a 4x4 Trooper that I would take off road quite a bit.
    Where were your favorite off-road excursion spots in CA? I would have liked to test the Alltrack even more when we had it, but I'm an off-road noob.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,966
    Michaell said:

    corvette said:

    fintail said:

    The 2WD 4Runner, I used to joke about those "4" stands for the number of wheels or doors.

    The RAV4, as well. Unless it meant number of cylinders, in which case, they sold a RAV6 for a while.
    My best friends parents have a V6 RAV4 - that thing is a rocket.
    Almost bought one myself. In the end, I deemed it way too expensive as it was about the same cost as the '06 A3 I ended up in, but without the ecobox interior.
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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,966
    Speaking of watered down beer, I'm surprised the "your not gonna buy a large soda in my back yard" types didn't think of watering down soda. Cap sugar at 20 grams per 12 oz. can. LOL!
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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,628
    stickguy said:

    well, suburban Philly and the NE I95 corridor is pretty much the opposite of a remote area, so not a big issue!

    can be like the 70's, travelling through the boonies of central NYS with just an AM radio. Mostly listening to farm reports!

    if I do "cut the satellite", I will need to load up a bunch of music to my iTunes and hope that works.

    stickguy said:

    well, suburban Philly and the NE I95 corridor is pretty much the opposite of a remote area, so not a big issue!

    can be like the 70's, travelling through the boonies of central NYS with just an AM radio. Mostly listening to farm reports!

    if I do "cut the satellite", I will need to load up a bunch of music to my iTunes and hope that works.

    There’s Pandora and others like it that work well. Not too many commercials yet, or spend and get commercial free.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,913
    andres3 said:

    Michaell said:

    jmonroe said:

    suydam said:

    I was surprised it sold for that much. When I was in Ohio RWD trucks were a hard sell. 4WD trucks are the norm and really hold their value well.

    Yes but @Michaell's clan is in Southern CA so no need for 2 more drive wheels that reduces MPG for those who care.

    jmonroe
    Yep, my sister and family are in San Diego.

    However, when I lived in CA I had a 4x4 Trooper that I would take off road quite a bit.
    Where were your favorite off-road excursion spots in CA? I would have liked to test the Alltrack even more when we had it, but I'm an off-road noob.
    Hungry Valley by Gorman off I-5 was where we went. We'd often go the back way, up CA 33 to Lockwood Valley, then cut across.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,769
    My neighbor is a funny guy


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  • ventureventure Member Posts: 3,176
    That's pretty good.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,732
    edited March 2020
    *scratches head*

    I don't get it. :(

    Is "Pappy 23 year family reserve" some type of alcohol?
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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,375
    Google Pappy Van Winkle.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,732
    corvette said:

    Google Pappy Van Winkle.

    ooooooooooooooh..... :D
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,769
    $299 from distiller when released. $2999 on-line resale price

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    About a month ago the liquor control board did a limited release of hard to find bourbons, including Pappy. The email came out at 1PM and by the time I got home at 5PM they were sold out :(
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,774
    The Ioniq may indeed get kicked to the curb. The day before coming out to a dead car, I had received a warning message on the dash about the battery saver mode having kicked in while parked. I thought nothing of it at the time. After reading more, I understand it means the battery never should have died, because the main battery would have kept it charged. Anyway, went to drive it today for the first time in a couple of days and that message was once again on. Now I'm afraid I'll turn it off somewhere away from home and it won't start again.

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    Want a Prelude?
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,774
    Carvana offer improved. Now at $18,321. I believe about $2k above what my pre-tax buyout should be.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,375
    Take it and run!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,774
    Pretty sure I will.

    Is it weird that my only concern is what our family will think? They are always of the "oh, he's at it again!" opinion. I shouldn't care, but it does bother me a little. MY family thinks it is hilarious, but her family is pretty judgmental.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    well, it is all about the spin. if the car is not reliable, the message is you won't put your wife and kids in it, so it has to go!

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,952
    Wife and I definitely got that from co-workers when we were a bit more active in our car trading.

    It got old. But, never stopped us from going through with a trade.

    This one's a no-brainer. I assume with the extra over the pre-tax buyout you'll come out okay, if not a bit ahead, after paying the tax on the buyout?

    You gave it a good go on the Ioniq without losing anything. We could all be so lucky.

    So...what's on the radar?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    no tax on the buyout. just a check. only pay tax when you purchase. That hurts.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,952
    Well, to trade it in to Carvana, you have to own it, right? Which means buying out the lease, which includes paying the tax on the buyout.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    if you buy it first, yes. I never actually submitted to try and sell them a lease (just cars I owned or had financed) since I was always upside down (big time on the TLX). So I am not sure how they do it, but I thought Carvana was actually buying out the lease and would not be paying tax on it. But as always, what the heck do I know?

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,952
    I'm not 100% sure either - but that was my understanding.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,769
    breld said:

    I'm not 100% sure either - but that was my understanding.

    No, Carvana buys the car from the leasing bank. The lessee never takes title.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,861
    You should see if it actually works - my understanding is that to get a true dealer payoff quote from HMF, you have to do a three-way call with the dealer, Carvana/Vroom/carmax, and yourself before they will release that information. I've also seen anecdotal information that HMF has a different price for dealers to buy out that may be different from your payoff.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,774
    edited March 2020
    I have heard HMF can be annoying. We’ll see. But, no, they would not pay tax as the reselling dealer.

    I guess I shouldn’t complain even if I make $1500.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,732
    qbrozen said:

    I have heard HMF can be annoying. We’ll see. But, no, they would not pay tax as the reselling dealer.

    I guess I shouldn’t complain even if I make $1500.

    Or even if you make nothing, but are free of a car in which you have no trust.

    Maybe it's time to give a Tesla a shot? :D
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,117
    Way back when (2010) I sold the Genesis to Autolenders HMF definitely gave a lower buyout to the dealer. I pocketed around $1300 selling that lease out. If I was to use the number HMF gave me, I would have been upside down

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 264,913

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    I should hit carvana up with my TLX then. never know!

    Heck, I could swing through Autolenders (if they still allow customers to come in!)

    I could see it like an air lock. Drive up, park and leave the keys, have a swat team in hazmat suits come out to disinfect, then when it is all done you can go back near the car.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,326
    qbrozen said:

    The Ioniq may indeed get kicked to the curb. The day before coming out to a dead car, I had received a warning message on the dash about the battery saver mode having kicked in while parked. I thought nothing of it at the time. After reading more, I understand it means the battery never should have died, because the main battery would have kept it charged. Anyway, went to drive it today for the first time in a couple of days and that message was once again on. Now I'm afraid I'll turn it off somewhere away from home and it won't start again.

    I’m puzzled. Didn’t the dealer check the starter battery when this happened the first time?

    New tech. Go figure.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,774

    qbrozen said:

    The Ioniq may indeed get kicked to the curb. The day before coming out to a dead car, I had received a warning message on the dash about the battery saver mode having kicked in while parked. I thought nothing of it at the time. After reading more, I understand it means the battery never should have died, because the main battery would have kept it charged. Anyway, went to drive it today for the first time in a couple of days and that message was once again on. Now I'm afraid I'll turn it off somewhere away from home and it won't start again.

    I’m puzzled. Didn’t the dealer check the starter battery when this happened the first time?

    New tech. Go figure.
    They said “just needed a charge.”
    “Well what caused it?”
    “I don’t know but its working fine now.”
    :eyeroll:

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,375
    Why would a small aux battery in an electric car ever need a charge? I guess that’s above their pay grade.
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,241
    Drove a Tacoma that we sold to a local dealer today. Had just over 24K on the clock and drove very nicely but it's still a truck, though a small one, still felt like a truck! Not sure I'd want one as my d d to be honest.The versatility is there and it did drive nicely on the turnpike but...again, it's still a truck!

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    corvette said:

    Why would a small aux battery in an electric car ever need a charge? I guess that’s above their pay grade.

    At least they didn't go into fall-back mode and say, "couldn't duplicate customers problem".

    jmonroe

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,614
    might be small compared to an F150, but it is not really small compared to other cars. 212" long, which is a full foot longer than the Odyssey we had. And actually .3" longer than a Ford Crown Vic.

    at least it is not as wide as a 1/2 ton beast!

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,241
    Jmonroe, why are you parking on the left side and the wife not on the right? We're the opposite of y'all at our house and I've scraped the right mirror on every vehicle I've owned in over the 32 years we've lived here. The only broken mirror was with the Golf in 2017 after Hurricane Irma came through. And really the wife's fault as she was guiding me out of the garage but neglected to see that I was at an angle and not backing out straight. It damaged the mirror like 75% and the VW tech completed the other 25% while trying to help. He disappeared very quickly after he saw what he had done and everyone involved played dumb after that. Cost me $728 and change to correct, a new mirror painted in the Blue Silk color to match the vehicle.
    We have the a/c air handler in front of my side and the wife decided on day 1 that she wanted the driver side of her vehicle to be on the left side facing in. It was never up for discussion as she drove the bigger vehicle then when the kids were all small. She'd only drive a mid-sized sedan, no minivan for her, so that was that. The right side lack of space is the reason why I must drive a small vehicle but that's my preferred size vehicle anyways. I'm just super careful since the whack!

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989

    Drove a Tacoma that we sold to a local dealer today. Had just over 24K on the clock and drove very nicely but it's still a truck, though a small one, still felt like a truck! Not sure I'd want one as my d d to be honest.The versatility is there and it did drive nicely on the turnpike but...again, it's still a truck!

    I gotta be sure about this; is it still a truck? :o

    jmonroe

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