Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

nyccarguy

@pensfan83 - I get that about my Prelude a lot too. Not that it is for sale. Mostly Landscapers & Delivery Drivers.

"I like your car. What year?" 2001

"You no drive this car? I buy." Oh. Thank-you. It isn't for sale.

I'm far from the "I KNOWZ WHAT I GOTZ," type, but these guys think they are going to offer me $1,500 and I'll be happy to take it from them. The car is definitely worth more to me than anybody else at this point. Oh the other hand, if something were to happen to it, I wouldn't go looking for another Prelude.

fintail

Funny thing, on a car of that age here, rust is the last thing I'd look for, as a local car should have zero rust.

Local Volvo dealer has a huge inventory, using a Hilton overflow lot as storage. I've never seen so many XC90s. It'll take a while for a seller's market to develop there, anyway.

roadburner

graphicguy said:

Love the color choices. In person, the red metallic is stunning, too.

I think that The Kia Store has one of the most ambivalent sales staff that I have ever encountered. Here’s the response I received after stating the trim level and colors I wanted:

“RB, thank you for your interest in the Stinger.

I am attaching a link to our current available inventory. If there is a specific one you are wanting to purchase we may still be able to order it depending on when KIA is looking to move to the 2021's

Please let me know if I can help further!”

I guess he can’t arrange a dealer trade. His lack of enthusiasm is palpable. The funny thing is, my son is wanting to replace his 3er with a small CUV until he gets his own house, and I was considering letting that dealer handle both the Stinger sale and a short term lease for my son.
Ya snooze, ya lose...

pensfan83

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driver100 said:

pensfan83 said:

Prelude officially off the market for now. It's had a lot of inquiries but most are from people correlating a 23 y/o Honda with a ratty and rusted out junker, like many are, and want it priced like one. I even went so far as to get pictures of the undercarriage for someone in Erie yesterday and the damn thing doesn't get any cleaner than that.

So, he knew the price....he asked for pictures of the undercarriage which you generously sent....and he says he isn't interested? Did he think the undercarriage was gold plated or stainless steel?

Oh he's interested, just not at a price point that makes sense for me. I told him as much and that's usually when the other side ghosts me.

pensfan83

nyccarguy said:

@pensfan83 - I get that about my Prelude a lot too. Not that it is for sale. Mostly Landscapers & Delivery Drivers.

"I like your car. What year?" 2001

"You no drive this car? I buy." Oh. Thank-you. It isn't for sale.

I'm far from the "I KNOWZ WHAT I GOTZ," type, but these guys think they are going to offer me $1,500 and I'll be happy to take it from them. The car is definitely worth more to me than anybody else at this point. Oh the other hand, if something were to happen to it, I wouldn't go looking for another Prelude.

I'm far from that type as well but that hasn't stopped some from using that retort. I can't justify keeping a 4th car in the mix but I'm also fine with waiting for the right buyer to come along. I don't think the current environment has many enthusiasts scouring the Internet for cars of that vintage.

On a positive note it was a great weekend to have it on the road. Warm and dry...and such a contrast to the ZHP.

qbrozen

after some digging, the 2006 Cayenne Turbo is being offered at auction pricing. I'll probably miss out because I have yet to receive the Vroom paperwork.

The V60 in question is a 2015. I believe it is the old 2.5 rather than the drive-E. They don't specify. Platinum trim, white on tan.

'07 V70/S60R? Yeah, good luck finding a clean one for reasonable money. One on Bat has a $14k bid with 96k miles and 3 days to go.

28firefighter

The 2008 Turbo was a pretty big design change and 2009 gave the electronics a significant upgrade. I'd probably target a 2009 over an 08 or 06.

ab348

pensfan83 said:

Prelude officially off the market for now. It's had a lot of inquiries but most are from people correlating a 23 y/o Honda with a ratty and rusted out junker, like many are, and want it priced like one. I even went so far as to get pictures of the undercarriage for someone in Erie yesterday and the damn thing doesn't get any cleaner than that.

Was it rustproofed/undercoated at some point, or is what I see there from the factory? Odd how it is only there in spots.

stickguy

the 2015 still had the 2.5t with AWD. Probably good thing. I have read the early 2.0 had some serious teething pains.

ronsteve

ab348 said:

I was reading an article today (which referenced reporting by C&D) stating that the next Mazda 6, due out late next year, will have an inline 6-cyl engine, RWD, and will be moving upmarket in terms of luxe features to compete with the likes of M-B and BMW.

I wish them luck.

Wait, what? I think I missed the memo that said April Fools Day was postponed to May 1 due to COVID.

fintail

Good issue, for how they are ga-ga for the MB wagon, if anything.

qbrozen

stickguy said:

the 2015 still had the 2.5t with AWD. Probably good thing. I have read the early 2.0 had some serious teething pains.

they changed over mid-year. There are 2015s out there advertised with drive-e.

pensfan83

ab348 said:

pensfan83 said:

Prelude officially off the market for now. It's had a lot of inquiries but most are from people correlating a 23 y/o Honda with a ratty and rusted out junker, like many are, and want it priced like one. I even went so far as to get pictures of the undercarriage for someone in Erie yesterday and the damn thing doesn't get any cleaner than that.

Was it rustproofed/undercoated at some point, or is what I see there from the factory? Odd how it is only there in spots.

It never came up in conversations but I was told by the prior owner he never drove it in the winter and the first owner was equally as protective of it. I guess it could be remnants from the factory.

28firefighter

@pensfan83 - have you given any thought to BaT? This seems like a good candidate and should get it in front of the right audience of buyer.

stickguy

Just logged in from my phone. What a mess. Some if you routinely do this?

driver100

pensfan83 said:

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driver100 said:

pensfan83 said:

Prelude officially off the market for now. It's had a lot of inquiries but most are from people correlating a 23 y/o Honda with a ratty and rusted out junker, like many are, and want it priced like one. I even went so far as to get pictures of the undercarriage for someone in Erie yesterday and the damn thing doesn't get any cleaner than that.

So, he knew the price....he asked for pictures of the undercarriage which you generously sent....and he says he isn't interested? Did he think the undercarriage was gold plated or stainless steel?

Oh he's interested, just not at a price point that makes sense for me. .

Sounds like the 2014 C250. For $11500 it is worth a lot more than that to me. It would hurt to sell it for that amount. Guess we have to lose our conscience and just go for it no matter what - if we really want a new car.

tjc78

Almost exclusively. Works well, you just can't post pictures without switching to desktop site.

stickguy

I hate browsing on the phone to start with. too small. and that was not very user friendly. And my usually poor typing would take a serious dent.

abacomike

I posted some pics of the new car on the members cars and conversations thread. For some reason, I cannot post them on this thread.

ronsteve

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

the 2015 still had the 2.5t with AWD. Probably good thing. I have read the early 2.0 had some serious teething pains.

they changed over mid-year. There are 2015s out there advertised with drive-e.

I don't think any of them are AWD. I think there are '16 AWD models that still had the 2.5T.

stickguy

that was my understanding. there were 2015.5 models with the new motor but only FWD.

pensfan83

28firefighter said:

@pensfan83 - have you given any thought to BaT? This seems like a good candidate and should get it in front of the right audience of buyer.

Yes, but I surmised the mileage would probably scare a lot of people off.

qbrozen

stickguy said:

that was my understanding. there were 2015.5 models with the new motor but only FWD.

that very well could be true.

Red Bank Volvo has the V60, as well as a 2016 XC60 FWD drive-e for $1k less. Interesting option, but I don't think I could tolerate a FWD SUV.

28firefighter

pensfan83 said:

28firefighter said:

@pensfan83 - have you given any thought to BaT? This seems like a good candidate and should get it in front of the right audience of buyer.

Yes, but I surmised the mileage would probably scare a lot of people off.

Maybe...see what they say

tifighter

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

corvette

The funny thing is, my son is wanting to replace his 3er with a small CUV until he gets his own house, and I was considering letting that dealer handle both the Stinger sale and a short term lease for my son.
Ya snooze, ya lose...

Are there lease subsidies on Kia SUVs right now? I’d check out the lease forums - I think you can get something much nicer than a RAV4 or CR-V for about the same coin those lease for.

stickguy said:

the 2015 still had the 2.5t with AWD. Probably good thing. I have read the early 2.0 had some serious teething pains.

I loved the 2.5T in the XC90 I test drove way back in the day.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

benjaminh said:

Vehicles sales were cut in half by the crisis, but during the same time vehicle production ended. In other words, is there a chance that at some point it might be a seller's market?

I wondered this early one, when the discussion about dealers having to slash prices came up. Seems that they were more willing to ride it out, since once the world opened back up there was likely to be some pent up demand, and when they cleared out inventory they were not getting replacements. so if they sold all their stock at huge losses, they would not have anything to sell when demand ticked up. Assuming of course it really does.

I was just looking at a car dealer’s ad that stated that they were slashing prices because they wanted to move out at least half of their $6 million inventory. I suppose that like any other business, car dealers are unsure how to keep their operations profitable. Some may be able to sit on depreciating assets while others are in a cash flow bind and have to scramble.

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

@pensfan83 - I get that about my Prelude a lot too. Not that it is for sale. Mostly Landscapers & Delivery Drivers.

"I like your car. What year?" 2001

"You no drive this car? I buy." Oh. Thank-you. It isn't for sale.

I'm far from the "I KNOWZ WHAT I GOTZ," type, but these guys think they are going to offer me $1,500 and I'll be happy to take it from them. The car is definitely worth more to me than anybody else at this point. Oh the other hand, if something were to happen to it, I wouldn't go looking for another Prelude.

When I sold my son’s Mercury for $400 I got a bunch of “$200 tonight?” responses. I think buyers send shills to test how desperate you are.

oldfarmer50

fintail said:

Funny thing, on a car of that age here, rust is the last thing I'd look for, as a local car should have zero rust.

Local Volvo dealer has a huge inventory, using a Hilton overflow lot as storage. I've never seen so many XC90s. It'll take a while for a seller's market to develop there, anyway.

Last week I saw a bunch of new Jeep’s parked in lot of an abandoned K-Mart where anyone could drive right up to them. I’d worry that all the wheels would go missing real fast.

breld

tifighter said:

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

Nice. I strongly considered a blue one many years ago (it wasn’t all that old at the time). I still like that style Z4. I thought it was a very comfortable vert.

28firefighter

tifighter said:

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

You have fine taste.

explorerx4

That Z4 looks pretty good on the outside, but that is one of the worst dashboards I've every seen.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

that was my understanding. there were 2015.5 models with the new motor but only FWD.

that very well could be true.

Red Bank Volvo has the V60, as well as a 2016 XC60 FWD drive-e for $1k less. Interesting option, but I don't think I could tolerate a FWD SUV.

I almost went up to red bank a few times when they had units that seemed to be a really good deal. but that is a haul for me.

I am also fine with a FWD, especially used. They are primarily FWD biased anyway, and most likely, I would never know the difference. I doubt the old RDX drove the rear wheels very often, if at all (not sure if that one had some small amount of power to the rear, or only sent some when needed). And on a used car, certainly something like a Volvo that had issues with the AWD systems for a long time, one less major thing to go wrong!

stickguy

that is a lovely BMW. Would be nicer IMO without black leather, but I think that of any convertible. I always liked Z4s, but would be perfectly fine with a 3.0i.

qbrozen

color combo makes this intriguing

I know I ruled these out long ago, but now the pricing makes it tempting again.

T6 goodness

So much to like here ... except maybe paying $14k for a vehicle with 84k miles.

Here is the bargain Cayenne.

Or how about totally opposite direction and get cheap, cheerful, and certified.

Wow. Talk about in the wrapper.

fintail

I like the paperwork presentation in the trunk of that Z4. Still gives me a "signals seldom used" vibe though

qbrozen

stickguy said:

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

that was my understanding. there were 2015.5 models with the new motor but only FWD.

that very well could be true.

Red Bank Volvo has the V60, as well as a 2016 XC60 FWD drive-e for $1k less. Interesting option, but I don't think I could tolerate a FWD SUV.

I almost went up to red bank a few times when they had units that seemed to be a really good deal. but that is a haul for me.

I am also fine with a FWD, especially used. They are primarily FWD biased anyway, and most likely, I would never know the difference. I doubt the old RDX drove the rear wheels very often, if at all (not sure if that one had some small amount of power to the rear, or only sent some when needed). And on a used car, certainly something like a Volvo that had issues with the AWD systems for a long time, one less major thing to go wrong!

fair point. BUT, eliminate AWD and gain the drive-E teething year. LOL. It is darned pretty, though.

qbrozen

we all know I'm weird, and I am liking the low miles, color combo, and Hemi!

tjc78

I always liked the Aspen. Good looking truck. That one is lightly used for sure.

The T6 XC60 is at the dealer where I got my Volvo. Nice people.

stickguy

oh, that is a nice XC60, Not brown leather of course, but beige is nice! That would be a nice option at that price. I'd look at it if I was in the market. Plus, under CPO warranty for another 26 montha/34,000 miles.

yup. I would take a shot at that one! I know the engine issue (spark plug related?) only goes up to a certain point, and I think there were TSBs so would make sure it was thoroughly checked and remediated. But that could be right in the sweet spot of lots of goodies and performance, for relatively little money.

roadburner

tifighter said:

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

Nice, but if it was a coupe I'd like it a lot better.

stickguy

I doubt you would find a CX3 comfortable enough. I heard they were on the cramped side with smaller seats.

abacomike

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stickguy

aspen looks nice. would also make a nice companion to the charger!

abacomike

Finally figured out how to upload photos.

tifighter

roadburner said:

tifighter said:

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

Nice, but if it was a coupe I'd like it a lot better.

Agreed, but a coupe would cost nearly double...

tifighter

28firefighter said:

tifighter said:

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

You have fine taste.

An affliction I have long suffered from.

This or 996 vert? Discuss.

stickguy

I would take the Z. Probably less expensive to keep moving! at least in non-M form.

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

color combo makes this intriguing

I know I ruled these out long ago, but now the pricing makes it tempting again.

T6 goodness

So much to like here ... except maybe paying $14k for a vehicle with 84k miles.

Here is the bargain Cayenne.

Or how about totally opposite direction and get cheap, cheerful, and certified.

Wow. Talk about in the wrapper.

What is a CX-3 doing in this palace?

28firefighter

tifighter said:

28firefighter said:

tifighter said:

My love of convertibles is no secret. Today's random Craigslist posting is a convertible. Life is good.

You have fine taste.

An affliction I have long suffered from.

This or 996 vert? Discuss.

Yes. The answer is simply “yes.”