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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,601
    edited May 2020
    stickguy said:

    Link not showing for me driver

    Stick...that was Michaell's link....but, it is down temporarily, something about fixing it up right now. It is so classy it is only in operation for a few hours a day!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,601
    tjc78 said:

    Certainly don't need a BU cam or sensors with visibility like that Legend.

    Nice car

    Now that is my kind of car....straight lines, large windows, good site lines........that would be a good design for today. Might not pass the safety I guess, thin roof pillars and not enough metal protection.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,601
    A4 site seems to be up again:
    https://www.lexusofcoloradosprings.com/inventory/used-2017-audi-a4-2-0t-premium-quattro-4d-sedan-wauanaf43hn017330/

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,357
    qbrozen said:

    got the Vroom paperwork. $1300 profit on the Ioniq. woohoo.

    That’s the way to wheel and deal.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    gotta say that V60cc with that weave interior is still calling to me. Works out to about $260/mo with about $2800 at signing for 36/10. That is IF my wife's job would qualify for the healthcare worker rebate.

    I still think a lease is not a good idea right now, though. Wasted miles. But if I were interested in leasing and then buying ... but we all know I'd never keep something that long.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,576
    Keep existing car or get a new one, with all the deals available?

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,236
    qbrozen said:

    ronsteve said:

    qbrozen said:

    28firefighter said:

    Q - beware transmission history on that generation T6. Or maybe my parents just have horrific luck.

    Really? Thought they were well past transmission problems by then. Have they had any good ones since the old Aisin 4-spd auto? Geesh.
    I thought the problem child was the GM 4-speed that went in the T6 just after the turn of the millennium.

    The 5-speed Aisin in my V70 2.5T was doing just fine at 192K.
    What year was that one? I believe the early 5-spd geartronic ... IIRC '04-'05? ... had some issues self destructing.
    Mine was an '06. I think the mid-cycle refresh was '05, when I know they went from 2.4T to 2.5T but I'm not sure how far back the 5-speed geartronic goes. The real lemons were the GM box that was in the S80 T6 models a few years earlier.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    ronsteve said:

    qbrozen said:

    ronsteve said:

    qbrozen said:

    28firefighter said:

    Q - beware transmission history on that generation T6. Or maybe my parents just have horrific luck.

    Really? Thought they were well past transmission problems by then. Have they had any good ones since the old Aisin 4-spd auto? Geesh.
    I thought the problem child was the GM 4-speed that went in the T6 just after the turn of the millennium.

    The 5-speed Aisin in my V70 2.5T was doing just fine at 192K.
    What year was that one? I believe the early 5-spd geartronic ... IIRC '04-'05? ... had some issues self destructing.
    Mine was an '06. I think the mid-cycle refresh was '05, when I know they went from 2.4T to 2.5T but I'm not sure how far back the 5-speed geartronic goes. The real lemons were the GM box that was in the S80 T6 models a few years earlier.
    yes, the S80 T6 and the XC90 T6 with 4-spd auto are to be avoided at all costs.

    I think the 5-spd geartronic started with the '04 S60. And they had to limit torque in 1st and 2nd in the S60R, which should have been a clue they were garbage.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    edited May 2020
    trying to convince the wife I need that $9700 Cayenne. Never find a better deal, etc, etc. LOL. Too bad about the color combo, but beggars can't be at the top of the food chain.

    hell, I could probably sell it on BAT for a profit.

    speaking of which, I think maybe I should send them info on my dad's truck.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    BaT is nuts. go for it. Get the coronet back together and put that out there too. The green vega hit $8,400, and the owner did not take it! seems nuts to me.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    I wonder when people will wise up and the prices on BAT come back down to earth?

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    @28firefighter convinced me that BaT is worth at least an inquiry so I'll probably get that rolling within the next few days. The worst they can say is no.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,421
    tjc78 said:

    I wonder when people will wise up and the prices on BAT come back down to earth?

    Never

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    pretty nice looking clown shoe for not terrible money (I guess?)

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-bmw-z3-coupe-21/

    maybe I should bring something like this home and freak out the wife?

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-ford-econoline-4/

    I actually like and would buy one of these (at the right price) if it was a manual.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-nissan-300zx-26/

    not going cheap, but this is wicked cool. looks well done too. Must be a hoot to drive.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-subaru-forester-6/

    and finally, one more that I lusted after in my youth, where a nice one has $ wise left me in the dust, so it is buy a crappy one or just go with memories! But this car, is sweet.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-celica-supra-8/

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,421
    I don't think I could live with the non-M version of the clown shoe.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    I could. 1/3 (or less the price), faster than I could ever use, and probably much cheaper to keep on the road. I am not taking it on the track, or canyon carving with an older toy car. So I would never really use the extra capability of the M. Basically the car is all about style and having some responsible fun. And style.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    wife's answer on the porsche. "get it if you must fill the craving."

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    I couldn't do a Z of that vintage without the digital dash. I'm just too much a kid of the 80s.

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,991
    Michaell said:

    corvette said:

    Michaell said:

    I have never seen an Audi this color; it would fit into our fleet nicely

    https://www.lexusofcoloradosprings.com/inventory/used-2017-audi-a4-2-0t-premium-quattro-4d-sedan-wauanaf43hn017330/

    I think that is Azores Green, the same color as my parents’ Q5. If so, the lighting on that one is weird and it’s actually darker in person. Still a gorgeous color. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it on an A4, but I’ve seen it on several Q5s and (I think) an A6.
    It's described as "Gotland Green". No idea if it's a custom color, but I agree that it doesn't go well with the black interior.
    I like all of Audi's green's a lot! It's not custom, just certain models have one green and another will have a different green. For example, Misano Red became Tango Red, then the TTRS wasn't happy with that so Catalunya Red was born.

    There's an '18 TTRS in Catalunya Red in Temecula with low miles for $55K asking price that's tempting me.
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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,807
    edited May 2020
    Not all BaT prices are crazy. Today, this one was a nice deal, tiptronic or not. Honest car with a $21k engine rebuild receipt. Well bought, in my mind.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    they rejected my dad's truck almost immediately. i wonder if it would be a different answer if I take the photo package.

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    qbrozen said:

    wife's answer on the porsche. "get it if you must fill the craving."

    Why are you still here? Go, before someone changes their mind!!!
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,222
    I so wanted an original Legend Coupe. Could only, barely, afford an Integra. Still felt like I won.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    tifighter said:

    Not all BaT prices are crazy. Today, this one was a nice deal, tiptronic or not. Honest car with a $21k engine rebuild receipt. Well bought, in my mind.

    pretty car. Odd that it would need a full rebuild at 50K miles though. But, the slushbox just kills it for me. Couldn't do it.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,601
    Like "Clown Shoe"....good description. I like how they keep saying "45000 miles SHOWN".

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    dad23 said:

    qbrozen said:

    wife's answer on the porsche. "get it if you must fill the craving."

    Why are you still here? Go, before someone changes their mind!!!
    somehow, I suspect it would not be the first time a car came home under the "easier to ask forgiveness than permission" concept!

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    Way down the BAT rabbit hole today..

    Here is an interesting one for sure.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ford-explorer/

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    I am seriously anxious to be looking for my replacement car. so many options to consider. Can't wait!

    hopefully I won't just be looking for an OF hooptie can, so I can live in it down by the river. These days, you never know.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,695
    tjc78 said:

    Way down the BAT rabbit hole today..

    Here is an interesting one for sure.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ford-explorer/

    That thing is tacky as heck, but I love it. I never heard of this model before. And someone in 1998 paid over $50K for an explorer? yowzers. To only use it about 1,000 miles/year.

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  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,807
    stickguy said:

    tifighter said:

    Not all BaT prices are crazy. Today, this one was a nice deal, tiptronic or not. Honest car with a $21k engine rebuild receipt. Well bought, in my mind.

    pretty car. Odd that it would need a full rebuild at 50K miles though. But, the slushbox just kills it for me. Couldn't do it.
    I get it. But same car with a stick price would start with a 5. Rebuild not completely unusual on a 993, BTW.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,869
    BaT strikes again. 2003 ZHP slicktop 6MT with 100k miles just sold for $13,500.
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 268,421
    laurasdada said:

    I so wanted an original Legend Coupe. Could only, barely, afford an Integra. Still felt like I won.

    In '90, I was trying to buy a used '89 model. Couldn't move them off $23,900, so I passed on it.

    Bought an '84 911 for $20K, instead. ;)

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  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    abacomike -
    Great looking MB.
    - Ray
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    now that I got permission, I got cold feet. LOL. Maybe I should hold out for an '08 or '09. Not like I'm in a rush. I know that one is a good deal and may regret it, but, then again, could regret not getting the RIGHT one.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,869
    qbrozen said:

    now that I got permission, I got cold feet. LOL. Maybe I should hold out for an '08 or '09. Not like I'm in a rush. I know that one is a good deal and may regret it, but, then again, could regret not getting the RIGHT one.

    Definitely want an 09 over an 08 and an 08 over an 06.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,869
    Helped a friend nail down a lease on a CR-V EX-L AWD in Western PA - he is picking it up tomorrow (thanks @kyfdx!). His lease is up this month on his Hyundai Tucson.

    These things simply are not aggressive leases - combination of low incentives, low margin between MSRP and invoice, and enough demand to keep them moving. Seems to be true of the other competitors in the space, too - they didn't do much better.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,788
    28firefighter said:

    qbrozen said:

    now that I got permission, I got cold feet. LOL. Maybe I should hold out for an '08 or '09. Not like I'm in a rush. I know that one is a good deal and may regret it, but, then again, could regret not getting the RIGHT one.

    Definitely want an 09 over an 08 and an 08 over an 06.
    trying to see what '09 offers. I see mention of PCM and bluetooth. Figuring I'd likely go aftermarket anyway, I'm not sure I see any value. Is there anything else?

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,167
    stickguy said:

    tjc78 said:

    Way down the BAT rabbit hole today..

    Here is an interesting one for sure.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-ford-explorer/

    That thing is tacky as heck, but I love it. I never heard of this model before. And someone in 1998 paid over $50K for an explorer? yowzers. To only use it about 1,000 miles/year.
    I’d buy it for $5K because it’s going to cost another $15K to take all the tackiness out of it and repaint it.
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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    28firefighter said:

    Helped a friend nail down a lease on a CR-V EX-L AWD in Western PA - he is picking it up tomorrow (thanks @kyfdx!). His lease is up this month on his Hyundai Tucson.

    These things simply are not aggressive leases - combination of low incentives, low margin between MSRP and invoice, and enough demand to keep them moving. Seems to be true of the other competitors in the space, too - they didn't do much better.

    Which dealer if you don't mind sharing? A Passport is on the shopping list. You can always PM as well.
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,869
    Will PM since not signed.
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,157
    28firefighter said:

    Helped a friend nail down a lease on a CR-V EX-L AWD in Western PA - he is picking it up tomorrow (thanks @kyfdx!). His lease is up this month on his Hyundai Tucson.

    These things simply are not aggressive leases - combination of low incentives, low margin between MSRP and invoice, and enough demand to keep them moving. Seems to be true of the other competitors in the space, too - they didn't do much better.

    Curious on the payment and MSRP to see how it compares to my Mom's RAV. That wasn't the best lease either, but she loves the thing and that's more important than anything else.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,167
    Michaell said:

    tjc78 said:

    Certainly don't need a BU cam or sensors with visibility like that Legend.

    Nice car

    I suspect that Legend will have a bidding war - when I first pulled up the link 30 minutes ago, it was at $5000. Just refreshed, and the bid is now $5800.

    Yeah....frankly, if that was to go for anything around $6,000 (which it won’t), I would kick myself for not buying it, regardless if I had room for it.
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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    rayainsw said:

    abacomike -
    Great looking MB.
    - Ray
    Best of luck - and many[s]miles !

    Thanks, rayainsw!

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,869
    I'll post more details after he picks it up tomorrow. The RAV, Forester, etc. all came in similarly relative to MSRP.
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,357
    qbrozen said:

    trying to convince the wife I need that $9700 Cayenne. Never find a better deal, etc, etc. LOL. Too bad about the color combo, but beggars can't be at the top of the food chain.

    hell, I could probably sell it on BAT for a profit.

    speaking of which, I think maybe I should send them info on my dad's truck.

    That reminds me of a joke I heard about a guy’s wife who wanted him to get rid of a “collectible” car.

    He told her “in a few years it could double in value...and be worth half of what I paid for it”.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 265,576
    Those vehicles are the new mid-sized sedan -- everybody makes one, everybody wants one, and the lease programs on all of them are just "meh".

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,357
    stickguy said:

    pretty nice looking clown shoe for not terrible money (I guess?)

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-bmw-z3-coupe-21/

    maybe I should bring something like this home and freak out the wife?

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-ford-econoline-4/

    I actually like and would buy one of these (at the right price) if it was a manual.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-nissan-300zx-26/

    not going cheap, but this is wicked cool. looks well done too. Must be a hoot to drive.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2004-subaru-forester-6/

    and finally, one more that I lusted after in my youth, where a nice one has $ wise left me in the dust, so it is buy a crappy one or just go with memories! But this car, is sweet.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-toyota-celica-supra-8/

    That Econoline conversion might be unique enough to keep your interest. I’ve seen a number of them on the car rehab shows. Low miles. Relatively cheap as long as it’s not a hack job.

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    graphicguy said:

    Michaell said:

    tjc78 said:

    Certainly don't need a BU cam or sensors with visibility like that Legend.

    Nice car

    I suspect that Legend will have a bidding war - when I first pulled up the link 30 minutes ago, it was at $5000. Just refreshed, and the bid is now $5800.

    Yeah....frankly, if that was to go for anything around $6,000 (which it won’t), I would kick myself for not buying it, regardless if I had room for it.
    Ends in 7 minutes and the bidding is at $7,700
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,357
    qbrozen said:

    they rejected my dad's truck almost immediately. i wonder if it would be a different answer if I take the photo package.

    Glue a few BMW badges on it.

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