Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen

I have no data on the 2010 v8

benjaminh

I'm guessing that most other cars now have something similar to Honda and Acura's Maintenance Minder? Anyway, I like that the MM tells you exactly what services to get and when. Back in the 80s and 90s I got oil changes every 3,000 miles or so. But now with synthetic oil my TLX's MM just told me to get an oil change after 8,000 miles. It happens that my Acura dealer threw in the first 4 oil changes free, but if I keep the car as I'm thinking of doing that's some nice saving right there in terms of avoiding unneeded maintenance.

stickguy

it is a good feature, but I miss having a nice chart right in the owners manual to reference.

corvette

I like the idea of the variable service intervals based on usage, but I also think they should publish a traditional schedule for subsequent owners who want to “catch up” anything the previous owner may have ignored.

mjfloyd1

https://www.autoweek.com/news/sports-cars/a32906801/the-toyota-gr-supra-20-now-has-a-price-dollar43945/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=062220&utm_campaign=nl20693899&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

andres3

qbrozen said:

Thanks for the well wishes on the car, folks. Wire transfer was done today and just filled out the transport docs. So I'm guessing maybe in a week to 10 days it will be here? I have NO IDEA how the whole titling/registering thing is these days in NJ. The kids can't seem to comprehend how an SUV can be faster than the Charger. I guess the proof will be in the test drive. lol.

My little one says, "so you are going to get the Coronet working, right? Then you'll have 3 fast cars?" I said I may sell the Coronet once it is done. He got quite upset. Said no way, you have to keep THAT.

Is the ML faster around a 90 degree turn than the Charger? That's the real question.

andres3

corvette said:

JR finally got an engine for the R8 and installed it. I'm not sure what the cost was, but I'm wondering whether it might have been more economical to attempt an LS swap.

Background on this R8 project; must have missed it???

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.autoweek.com/news/sports-cars/a32906801/the-toyota-gr-supra-20-now-has-a-price-dollar43945/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=062220&utm_campaign=nl20693899&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

Not sure why someone would want a slow Supra. If you want cheaper, get the previous 50 less HP 3.0 (last year) version.

corvette

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnGaV2RKtUo

stickguy

maybe I am to mellow, but I really find it hard to believe that the "base" 430 HP engine in that R8 wouldn't be faster than I could ever use. and a whole lot more reliable, since it is unlikely to blow holes in the pistons!

xwesx

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

That's how it starts. I noticed the same thing on the 2013 Forester when I was driving it home.... seemed fine under normal braking, but on steep descents it could really shimmy the front end. A new set of rotors and pads when I got home took care of it! Of course, that was about 2,000 miles after I first noticed the issue!

fintail

Pardon me

Yes, these are a timeless design etc, but wow.

stickguy

amazing. Pretty odd configuration I assume with the manual. But man, that price? I guess if you wanted a brand new '85 K10, this is probably the only one in the country. But is it a museum piece? Seems like you can't actually drive it.

but good luck to the buyer.

pensfan83

When an EM1 Civic Si goes for $50K nothing surprises me anymore on BaT

@28firefighter ZHP looks great.

xwesx

Looks like a museum piece to me! I guess if you must have the best time capsule in existence, how can you really put a price on it? LOL

xwesx

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

fintail

I was thinking maybe 30s-40s range on that truck, nearly triple is amazing. I guess the 80s have arrived.

suydam

benjaminh said:

I'm guessing that most other cars now have something similar to Honda and Acura's Maintenance Minder? Anyway, I like that the MM tells you exactly what services to get and when. Back in the 80s and 90s I got oil changes every 3,000 miles or so. But now with synthetic oil my TLX's MM just told me to get an oil change after 8,000 miles. It happens that my Acura dealer threw in the first 4 oil changes free, but if I keep the car as I'm thinking of doing that's some nice saving right there in terms of avoiding unneeded maintenance.

GM cars have a similar app display that shows remaining oil life and any other services needed. But it’s not as handy as the Maintenance Minder.

corvette

Toyota shows it on the phone app, but, they’re on a straight 5k mile schedule for tire rotations and 10k for oil changes.

corvette

That R8 had 66k on it, which seems high for an exotic / near-Exotic.

qbrozen

fintail said:

Pardon me

Yes, these are a timeless design etc, but wow.

that's just stupid

andres3

corvette said:

That R8 had 66k on it, which seems high for an exotic / near-Exotic.

The R8 is the daily driver exotic. Not uncommon to mile them up. The famous "Nardo" R8 (last manual ordered in the US for an R8) went well past 120K miles before having any major issues arise even with heavy track time.

Still, R8's seem to hold their value really well, as I wouldn't mind picking one up someday.

breld

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.autoweek.com/news/sports-cars/a32906801/the-toyota-gr-supra-20-now-has-a-price-dollar43945/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=062220&utm_campaign=nl20693899&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

Not sure why someone would want a slow Supra. If you want cheaper, get the previous 50 less HP 3.0 (last year) version.

My thinking exactly. 😀

Toyota has the configurator for the 2021 models up so for kicks earlier today I built a 2.0T model with the one available package (tech and safety). The MSRP for that is within a few hundred dollars of what I paid for my 2020 3.0T Premium model. And that doesn’t include leather, heated power seats, head up display and, significantly, adaptive suspension.

breld

xwesx said:

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

That's how it starts. I noticed the same thing on the 2013 Forester when I was driving it home.... seemed fine under normal braking, but on steep descents it could really shimmy the front end. A new set of rotors and pads when I got home took care of it! Of course, that was about 2,000 miles after I first noticed the issue!

Well I have an appointment this Thursday so hopefully it’s an easy diagnosis. Seems pretty clear.

breld

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

I admittedly know little about Corvettes, but I had no idea they could cost that much?

What’s the deal with this model?

xwesx

breld said:

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

I admittedly know little about Corvettes, but I had no idea they could cost that much?

What’s the deal with this model?

This is the crème de la crème of Corvette... 2.8 seconds 0-6, ~95 feet 60-0 stopping, blah blah. It's a pretty impressive machine, highly limited edition, and sought after. Potential buyer is coming from distance with high confidence given the miles and dealer description, but he was excited about the prospect of someone laying eyes on it and letting him know if it had any concerns, etc., maybe snap some photos of any areas of interest. He has a deposit on it and is looking to finish the transaction at the end of the week.

2,800 miles isn't many, but it *can* be for a high performance car like this... if you know what I mean!

corvette

xwesx said:

2,800 miles isn't many, but it *can* be for a high performance car like this... if you know what I mean!

Like if they're 2,800 track miles? Just replace the tires and brakes, give it an oil change, and pass it along to the next sucker owner.

stickguy

well, that is 1,400 passes at the drag strip (factoring in 1/4 mile to get back to the starting line!

stickguy

well, that car certainly is not subtle. But I appreciate it having a real manual tranny and clutch! but 7 speeds seems like overkill

explorerx4

I mentioned in one of the other discussions that I saw a Viper ACR on the road yesterday.
That Corvette looks like a limited production super performance model.

mjfloyd1

breld said:

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

I admittedly know little about Corvettes, but I had no idea they could cost that much?

What’s the deal with this model?

Last of the front engine corvettes and fastest factory front engine corvette

mjfloyd1

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.autoweek.com/news/sports-cars/a32906801/the-toyota-gr-supra-20-now-has-a-price-dollar43945/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=062220&utm_campaign=nl20693899&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

Not sure why someone would want a slow Supra. If you want cheaper, get the previous 50 less HP 3.0 (last year) version.

I personally don’t see it as any different than Audi offering A4 vs S4 or A5 vs S5. Different motors, suspensions and price points.

breld

xwesx said:

breld said:

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

I admittedly know little about Corvettes, but I had no idea they could cost that much?

What’s the deal with this model?

This is the crème de la crème of Corvette... 2.8 seconds 0-6, ~95 feet 60-0 stopping, blah blah. It's a pretty impressive machine, highly limited edition, and sought after. Potential buyer is coming from distance with high confidence given the miles and dealer description, but he was excited about the prospect of someone laying eyes on it and letting him know if it had any concerns, etc., maybe snap some photos of any areas of interest. He has a deposit on it and is looking to finish the transaction at the end of the week.

2,800 miles isn't many, but it *can* be for a high performance car like this... if you know what I mean!

This isn’t far from my work. I could probably make it over to take a look tomorrow afternoon. Maybe Wednesday afternoon.

I’m guessing they wouldn’t be allowing any test drive, but I could check it out visually and provide photos.

oldfarmer50

fintail said:

Pardon me

Yes, these are a timeless design etc, but wow.

$85k for an old truck? Wow! How much would a complete frame off restoration cost? Maybe cobwebs are worth something these days.

I probably would keep it off the road as every bushing, hose and connection is just waiting to rot off.

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

With some hard negotiations I bet you could get them down to a flat $130k.🤑

I would want to know exactly where those 2600 miles were acquired. How much would that have cost new?

oldfarmer50

breld said:

xwesx said:

breld said:

Anyone aware of premature warping of rotors on Volvos? Based on a quick search, it seems that may be an issue.

On the way here to Utah, there were two times when I was descending a long hill on the highway and when I would brake to slow, the car would shudder noticeably. I had felt it once at highway speeds on a previous roadtrip a couple weeks ago too, but dismissed it.

I'm considering calling the local Volvo dealer to take a look while I'm here, but maybe that's an overreaction and I can just wait until my next appointment back home.

That's how it starts. I noticed the same thing on the 2013 Forester when I was driving it home.... seemed fine under normal braking, but on steep descents it could really shimmy the front end. A new set of rotors and pads when I got home took care of it! Of course, that was about 2,000 miles after I first noticed the issue!

Well I have an appointment this Thursday so hopefully it’s an easy diagnosis. Seems pretty clear.

Let me know what you find. I had to change the rotors every 10k miles. Never really got it fixed.

xwesx

breld said:

This isn’t far from my work. I could probably make it over to take a look tomorrow afternoon. Maybe Wednesday afternoon.

I’m guessing they wouldn’t be allowing any test drive, but I could check it out visually and provide photos.

That would be fantastic. It is on the showroom floor.

roadburner

benjaminh said:

I'm guessing that most other cars now have something similar to Honda and Acura's Maintenance Minder? Anyway, I like that the MM tells you exactly what services to get and when. Back in the 80s and 90s I got oil changes every 3,000 miles or so. But now with synthetic oil my TLX's MM just told me to get an oil change after 8,000 miles. It happens that my Acura dealer threw in the first 4 oil changes free, but if I keep the car as I'm thinking of doing that's some nice saving right there in terms of avoiding unneeded maintenance.

BMW switched to Condition Based Servicing(CBS) several years ago; oil changes are called for at 10,000 miles plus or minus 10%. The brake wear sensor setup is pretty slick; there is a wear sensor at 50% of the pad thickness as well as the minimum pad thickness point. When the 50% sensor is tripped the CBS can make an accurate estimation of when new pads will be required. On my 2er the rear pads are currently estimated to last over 100,000 miles while the front pads shouldn't need to be touched until 115,000 miles. Note that the 2 has M Sport fixed caliper brakes, so sliding caliper setups may vary.

xwesx

mjfloyd1 said:

breld said:

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

I admittedly know little about Corvettes, but I had no idea they could cost that much?

What’s the deal with this model?

Last of the front engine corvettes and fastest factory front engine corvette

To date, it is the fastest factory Corvette. I'm sure the C8 will best it when they release an equivalent version, but the C8 Z51 isn't quite there yet. I think if I had to choose, I would probably go with the C8 just because of the undeniable improvements to handling the mid-engine design allows, but everyone has their own priorities....

xwesx

oldfarmer50 said:

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

With some hard negotiations I bet you could get them down to a flat $130k.🤑

I would want to know exactly where those 2600 miles were acquired. How much would that have cost new?

Not much more, to be honest. MSRP is about $144K. However, all (most?) were sold with ADM in the range of $10K, so this one is probably about -$20K from new. When one considers the ADM on Civic Type R like the one @breld had, not completely unreasonable for so much more car as well as one with much higher MSRP... especially if the market will bear it!

28firefighter

breld said:

xwesx said:

breld said:

xwesx said:

Hey, Colorado Contingent.... you guys have time to take a gander at a fancy car for me? Well, not for "me," really, but on my behalf... ?

https://www.emichauto.com/inventory/used-2019-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1y42d9xk5801125

I admittedly know little about Corvettes, but I had no idea they could cost that much?

What’s the deal with this model?

This is the crème de la crème of Corvette... 2.8 seconds 0-6, ~95 feet 60-0 stopping, blah blah. It's a pretty impressive machine, highly limited edition, and sought after. Potential buyer is coming from distance with high confidence given the miles and dealer description, but he was excited about the prospect of someone laying eyes on it and letting him know if it had any concerns, etc., maybe snap some photos of any areas of interest. He has a deposit on it and is looking to finish the transaction at the end of the week.

2,800 miles isn't many, but it *can* be for a high performance car like this... if you know what I mean!

This isn’t far from my work. I could probably make it over to take a look tomorrow afternoon. Maybe Wednesday afternoon.

I’m guessing they wouldn’t be allowing any test drive, but I could check it out visually and provide photos.

I love this forum.

xwesx

roadburner said:

On my 2er the rear pads are currently to last estimated over 100,000 miles while the front pads shouldn't need to be touched until 115,000 miles. Note that the 2 has M Sport fixed caliper brakes, so sliding caliper setups may vary.

That's actually a useful setup! My Q7 has "sensors" in the brake pads that trip a dash light if the rotors break the little wires that consist of the "sensor." At that point, you're at about 10% pad life. Personally, I would rather save the headache and have them just use the traditional squealers. So far, I have had zero positive trips of the low pad light, and two negative trips (e.g., the wires broke, due to mechanical debris or ice damage).

However, even though I traditionally get a lifespan of 100K+ on my pads, I think this car will be the exception. I put new pads on it after I brought it home... so maybe around the high 50,000-mile range, and now, with about 40,000 miles added, I think the pads are maybe 50%. Perhaps just the weight of the vehicle, or the softness of the pads, or both? I may also replace the rotors with the next set of pads, as these are not wearing all that even - lots of grooves and whatnot that I don't typically see on the rotors... even ones with over 200,000 miles.

28firefighter

I really wish I lived somewhere with no traffic.

xwesx

It doesn't take that much of a drive to leave the heavy traffic behind!

benjaminh

My first Honda was a 2002 Accord LX with a tire size of 195/15. The first Accord sedan way back in 1980 had 165/13 tires! My next Accord was a 2008 EXL navi with a 5-speed manual, and the tires on that car were 225/17, and the tires on my 2018 TLX are the same size. If somehow I end up getting a 2021 TLX the standard tire on that car is apparently going to be 255/18. Bigger tires over the years.

sda

My experience with German cars is they like to digest their rotors. Often the rotors require replacement each time the pads are replaced.

stickguy

My 2005 accord 4 cyl had 205/60 series 16s. Plenty big enough. By 2008 redesign, as seems typical these days, they went up to 225/50-17. Very slightly smaller sidewall, on a wider tire and bigger wheel. 4.4”, down from 4.8”.

qbrozen

Another one for @roadburner

stickguy

I love that gt350. Great color.

And why aren’t you bidding on this one. No reserve!

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9XYPNwJp/2006-porsche-cayenne-turbo-s

kyfdx

'82 Accord (1st year of that Gen) had 185/70-13. (I think)