Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen

28firefighter said:

The IMS bearing in the 987.1 is nearly impossible to service but also has a much lower rate of failure due to an improved design over the 986/996. I want to say the IMS bearing designed was removed completely starting with the 987.2.

supposedly, you'll want to have removed the bearing oil seal on the 2005-2007 models. Seems like non-v8 Porsches are always risky one way or another.

Michaell

Member seeks advice on buying a former rental car:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/62222/volkswagen/x/2019-volkswagen-jetta-s-former-rental-low-ball-price#latest

xwesx

Yesterday, someone contacted me about buying the Q7. I offered to sell for $16.9; seem reasonable? It's kinda ridiculous how much these things depreciate, and I had just accepted keeping it for the long run, but if someone wants to buy it....

breld

So when does “this caught me eye” mean I’m gonna buy the car?

Can’t I just post something interesting?

On second thought...don’t answer that.

breld

Didn’t ask and don’t know if it was a “S” or base or whether it had any IMS issues addressed.

I can confirm it was a manual though.

Michaell

xwesx said:

Yesterday, someone contacted me about buying the Q7. I offered to sell for $16.9; seem reasonable? It's kinda ridiculous how much these things depreciate, and I had just accepted keeping it for the long run, but if someone wants to buy it....

Gives you a chance to shop for something new....

I'm not seeing the downside here...

28firefighter

I would NEVER buy this, but this is a throwback to my childhood:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro

My Dad had a 1993 V8 Quattro in this color when I was younger - I want to say he got it in 1996 or 1997, used.

xwesx

Michaell said:

xwesx said:

Yesterday, someone contacted me about buying the Q7. I offered to sell for $16.9; seem reasonable? It's kinda ridiculous how much these things depreciate, and I had just accepted keeping it for the long run, but if someone wants to buy it....

Gives you a chance to shop for something new....

I'm not seeing the downside here...

My wife said *almost* the same thing... except she worded it something like, "I'm not seeing a downside here, but you're not going to shop for something new..."

Michaell

xwesx said:

Michaell said:

xwesx said:

Yesterday, someone contacted me about buying the Q7. I offered to sell for $16.9; seem reasonable? It's kinda ridiculous how much these things depreciate, and I had just accepted keeping it for the long run, but if someone wants to buy it....

Gives you a chance to shop for something new....

I'm not seeing the downside here...

My wife said *almost* the same thing... except she worded it something like, "I'm not seeing a downside here, but you're not going to shop for something new..."

If, by "new", you mean brand new with 0 miles on it, I can see that.

But, "new to you" is a whole 'nother story...

xwesx

No, when she says new, she simply means "new to us." Age of the subject is not considered. Hahha

Michaell

xwesx said:

No, when she says new, she simply means "new to us." Age of the subject is not considered. Hahha

xwesx said:

No, when she says new, she simply means "new to us." Age of the subject is not considered. Hahha

Darn, I was trying to find you a loophole.

I suppose fleet of 5 is big enough, if you decide to cut the Audi loose.

corvette

If you don't mind my asking, how much are you into the Q7 for, after the dieselgate settlement?

suydam

RAV4. For resale value too. One of the Hyundais. I can’t keep their names straight.

nyccarguy

So for those interested, my friend is picking up a new Prius Prime for his store tomorrow & the Raptor for himself next week. He looked around in autotrader and CarGurus and found the Raptor was priced market correct. The big thing for him is that they are getting him out of his GMC Sierra Lease completely Scott free with nothing rolled into the payment (he’s got 4 or 5 payments to go in the $700 per month zip code). He doesn’t have to pay GM’s $495 disposition fee, his truck needs 2 rear tires (22”), and there are a couple of dents/scratches that he would have to have repaired before he turned it in. Toyota is going to fully detail the Raptor and put 4 new tires on it for him.

The Raptor Still has the balance of the factory warranty. Since it is still under factory warranty and being sold at a Toyota dealership, they can sell him a Toyota Extended warranty good for 84 months/100,000 miles. $3K.

qbrozen

So he paid $60k for the Ford? Hope they bought him dinner.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/276766360

explorerx4

Raptor has 2 body styles Supercab and SuperCrew/.

oldfarmer50

28firefighter said:

I would NEVER buy this, but this is a throwback to my childhood:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro

My Dad had a 1993 V8 Quattro in this color when I was younger - I want to say he got it in 1996 or 1997, used.

That’s a tiny V8. Was that the model that had the unintended acceleration issue?

mjfloyd1

That was the Audi 5000

oldfarmer50

nyccarguy said:

So for those interested, my friend is picking up a new Prius Prime for his store tomorrow & the Raptor for himself next week. He looked around in autotrader and CarGurus and found the Raptor was priced market correct. The big thing for him is that they are getting him out of his GMC Sierra Lease completely Scott free with nothing rolled into the payment (he’s got 4 or 5 payments to go in the $700 per month zip code). He doesn’t have to pay GM’s $495 disposition fee, his truck needs 2 rear tires (22”), and there are a couple of dents/scratches that he would have to have repaired before he turned it in. Toyota is going to fully detail the Raptor and put 4 new tires on it for him.

The Raptor Still has the balance of the factory warranty. Since it is still under factory warranty and being sold at a Toyota dealership, they can sell him a Toyota Extended warranty good for 84 months/100,000 miles. $3K.

That’s pretty generous to give him a Toyota-like warranty on a domestic. Is he likely to keep it for that long?

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

So he paid $60k for the Ford? Hope they bought him dinner.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/276766360

He saw that one. His has four full dooors.

explorerx4

For an extended warranty he should get an online quote from Lombard Ford.
Just search for Ford Extended Warranty to find them.

kyfdx

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:

I would NEVER buy this, but this is a throwback to my childhood:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro

My Dad had a 1993 V8 Quattro in this color when I was younger - I want to say he got it in 1996 or 1997, used.

That’s a tiny V8. Was that the model that had the unintended acceleration issue?

Unintended acceleration was in the '80s for Audi

qbrozen

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

So he paid $60k for the Ford? Hope they bought him dinner.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/276766360

He saw that one. His has four full dooors.

Ok, you never specified. He might be OK on a supercrew. Some in the low 50s but most have been in the high 50s at auction.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

So he paid $60k for the Ford? Hope they bought him dinner.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/276766360

He saw that one. His has four full dooors.

Ok, you never specified. He might be OK on a supercrew. Some in the low 50s but most have been in the high 50s at auction.

Got it. I forgot they made a short door Raptor.

tjc78

You need a SQL database and a degree in analytics to keep track of all the Ford truck configurations.

oldfarmer50

Finally an electric car for Roadburner. Although you might never want to go get your teeth drilled at the dentist ever again.

https://youtu.be/Y3846KFDmFQ

corvette

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

So he paid $60k for the Ford? Hope they bought him dinner.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/276766360

He saw that one. His has four full dooors.

Ok, you never specified. He might be OK on a supercrew. Some in the low 50s but most have been in the high 50s at auction.

Got it. I forgot they made a short door Raptor.

Short bed, too, if my memory is correct. I think that is the only way you can get a 5.5’ bed on an extended cab in the current generation and the non-Raptor models are 6.5’.

ab348

Yikes, they need to do something about that sound.

It looks like it can be made to handle poorly. If that's what you want.

ronsteve

While I'm fairly content passing up the '13 XC70 that I posted about earlier in the month, I can't seem to stop clicking on some car ads and end up down the occasional rabbit hole. And now my love for wagons has me even considering (gasp!) a CVT...

I know a couple CCBA members have gone this direction, so I'll ask you about your experiences.

It seems like a good number, but on the flipside, I'll never NOT be able to find another one of these...
https://www.bachmansubaru.net/certified/Subaru/2017-Subaru-Outback-louisville-ky-b8d61de90a0e0ae81e2b8a5dbf714975.htm

benjaminh

ronsteve said:

While I'm fairly content passing up the '13 XC70 that I posted about earlier in the month, I can't seem to stop clicking on some car ads and end up down the occasional rabbit hole. And now my love for wagons has me even considering (gasp!) a CVT...

I know a couple CCBA members have gone this direction, so I'll ask you about your experiences.

It seems like a good number, but on the flipside, I'll never NOT be able to find another one of these...
https://www.bachmansubaru.net/certified/Subaru/2017-Subaru-Outback-louisville-ky-b8d61de90a0e0ae81e2b8a5dbf714975.htm

My wife's CR-V has a CVT and, well, I recommend against it. A CVT is good for mpg, but for some people (like me) that kind of transmission somewhat kills the fun in driving. I'm a bit happier every time I'm driving my TLX with the 8-speed DCT. Also, I know Subaru has gotten better, but my parents owned a few of them and they always seemed less refined than my Hondas. They've gotten better, no doubt about it, but my 2 cents is to hold out for a Volvo wagon, an Acura, or something that'll be more fun to drive. Or, what about one of the last of the VW AllTrack wagons?

https://www.volkswagenofclarksville.com/new-Jefferson+County-2019-Volkswagen-Golf+Alltrack-SE-3VWH17AU6KM523689

Or what about a VW GTI? They maybe are a bit like a wagon, and can sometimes be found with a manual. Believe it or not I'm thinking of test driving a GTI manual myself at some point.

28firefighter

We have a 2019 Outback 3.6R Limited. Huge fan, will have to rip it from my wife's grip when the lease is up. I find the CVT (in this car) is pretty well matched to the engine and delivers good power unobtrusively. It isn't a sports car and behave like one, nor do I expect it to.

As you said, they're a dime a dozen now and particularly in another 2 years, they're going to be even more plentiful as Subaru blew them out on leases with crazy discounts.

Michaell

ronsteve said:

While I'm fairly content passing up the '13 XC70 that I posted about earlier in the month, I can't seem to stop clicking on some car ads and end up down the occasional rabbit hole. And now my love for wagons has me even considering (gasp!) a CVT...

I know a couple CCBA members have gone this direction, so I'll ask you about your experiences.

It seems like a good number, but on the flipside, I'll never NOT be able to find another one of these...
https://www.bachmansubaru.net/certified/Subaru/2017-Subaru-Outback-louisville-ky-b8d61de90a0e0ae81e2b8a5dbf714975.htm

Ours is a 2015, also with the 3.6. Only 38,000 miles on it after 5.5 years. It's now my (not so) daily driver. Does everything we ask of it.

As noted, not a shooting brake in terms of performance, but my wife refused to consider the 2.5i.

I don't mind the CVT; it has programming that allows it to mimic a traditional automatic, and there are flappy paddles if you want to do it yourself.

Ours was the first model year of that design, so no CarPlay or AA, but I don't miss it, given how little I drive it.

qbrozen

ronsteve said:

While I'm fairly content passing up the '13 XC70 that I posted about earlier in the month, I can't seem to stop clicking on some car ads and end up down the occasional rabbit hole. And now my love for wagons has me even considering (gasp!) a CVT...

I know a couple CCBA members have gone this direction, so I'll ask you about your experiences.

It seems like a good number, but on the flipside, I'll never NOT be able to find another one of these...
https://www.bachmansubaru.net/certified/Subaru/2017-Subaru-Outback-louisville-ky-b8d61de90a0e0ae81e2b8a5dbf714975.htm

I was really not a fan of my dad's 3.6R legacy with that CVT. Had decent grunt off the line, but no sporting intentions whatsoever. Driving dynamics are on par with any number of large FWD cars.

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

So he paid $60k for the Ford? Hope they bought him dinner.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/share/276766360

He saw that one. His has four full dooors.

Ok, you never specified. He might be OK on a supercrew. Some in the low 50s but most have been in the high 50s at auction.

Got it. I forgot they made a short door Raptor.

Funny, just this afternoon in Lexington, KY, saw a SuperCab Raptor with a short bed.

kyfdx

benjaminh said:

ronsteve said:

While I'm fairly content passing up the '13 XC70 that I posted about earlier in the month, I can't seem to stop clicking on some car ads and end up down the occasional rabbit hole. And now my love for wagons has me even considering (gasp!) a CVT...

I know a couple CCBA members have gone this direction, so I'll ask you about your experiences.

It seems like a good number, but on the flipside, I'll never NOT be able to find another one of these...
https://www.bachmansubaru.net/certified/Subaru/2017-Subaru-Outback-louisville-ky-b8d61de90a0e0ae81e2b8a5dbf714975.htm

My wife's CR-V has a CVT and, well, I recommend against it. A CVT is good for mpg, but for some people (like me) that kind of transmission somewhat kills the fun in driving. I'm a bit happier every time I'm driving my TLX with the 8-speed DCT. Also, I know Subaru has gotten better, but my parents owned a few of them and they always seemed less refined than my Hondas. They've gotten better, no doubt about it, but my 2 cents is to hold out for a Volvo wagon, an Acura, or something that'll be more fun to drive. Or, what about one of the last of the VW AllTrack wagons?

https://www.volkswagenofclarksville.com/new-Jefferson+County-2019-Volkswagen-Golf+Alltrack-SE-3VWH17AU6KM523689

Or what about a VW GTI? They maybe are a bit like a wagon, and can sometimes be found with a manual. Believe it or not I'm thinking of test driving a GTI manual myself at some point.

That looks just like mine!

andres3

tjc78 said:

Aftermarket audio in new cars is a little tougher than it used to be.

You usually need a special adapter or processor to connect outboard amps and the days of just throwing in a new head unit are pretty much over.

My '06 A3 required not 1, but 2 controller "modules" to be in the chain from the button on the radio to the button on the steering wheel, to keep my steering wheel functional. Pain the rear, but totally worth it. I think it was called a PCI and a CAN 2 bus?? something like that.

You'd think with Bluetooth these modern days everything could just be wireless now; beaming the buttons on your steering wheel to your new "head unit."

andres3

28firefighter said:

I would NEVER buy this, but this is a throwback to my childhood:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro

My Dad had a 1993 V8 Quattro in this color when I was younger - I want to say he got it in 1996 or 1997, used.

Wow, that looks super clean though! Super well-kept.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally an electric car for Roadburner. Although you might never want to go get your teeth drilled at the dentist ever again.

https://youtu.be/Y3846KFDmFQ

Not a chance, I don't know what idiot at Ford thought that diluting the Mustang brand was a good idea- but that person and whoever signed off on it should be fired.

benjaminh

kyfdx said:

That looks just like mine!

What year is your GTI? And what are your favorite and least favorite things about it so far?

kyfdx

benjaminh said:

kyfdx said:

That looks just like mine!

What year is your GTI? And what are your favorite and least favorite things about it so far?

2018

I wish it had automatic climate control
I wish I wasn't lazy and would go ahead and completely pair my phone with the CarPlay app.

I really don't have much negative to say about it. It's very torquey, handles great, and is also an easy highway cruiser. It's good that it has a gear indicator in the center dash, because it's easy to be in 4th or 6th, and not realize you are in one or the other. Also, the hatchback configuration is very handy.

I really like the look and the driving experience. It seems faster than it probably is, but I've found I don't really need extreme acceleration. Nothing separates it from an Audi in fit/finish.

I've only put 2500 miles on it, since I got it home, five months ago.

andres3

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KYz4EBkL/2001-audi-s4-sedan

My new Audi's are not giving competition to Dodge for number of CEL lights encountered in ownership period. No competition at all actually. Maybe the one linked above could even up the scoreboard a bit....eventually......., maybe..... if I combine it with the V8 Quattro too.

andres3

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:

I would NEVER buy this, but this is a throwback to my childhood:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro

My Dad had a 1993 V8 Quattro in this color when I was younger - I want to say he got it in 1996 or 1997, used.

That’s a tiny V8. Was that the model that had the unintended acceleration issue?

As others have answered, that was a "fake news" in the 80's put on by 60 Minutes. The problem was that the accelerator and brake were put a bit closer together to lessen the time you needed to move your foot for "sporty" intentions, but Americans couldn't figure out which pedal they were pushing.

qbrozen

andres3 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:

I would NEVER buy this, but this is a throwback to my childhood:
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro

My Dad had a 1993 V8 Quattro in this color when I was younger - I want to say he got it in 1996 or 1997, used.

That’s a tiny V8. Was that the model that had the unintended acceleration issue?

As others have answered, that was a "fake news" in the 80's put on by 60 Minutes. The problem was that the accelerator and brake were put a bit closer together to lessen the time you needed to move your foot for "sporty" intentions, but Americans couldn't figure out which pedal they were pushing.

And then it rammed into the back of a Pinto on the same episode ....

tjc78

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally an electric car for Roadburner. Although you might never want to go get your teeth drilled at the dentist ever again.

https://youtu.be/Y3846KFDmFQ

Not a chance, I don't know what idiot at Ford thought that diluting the Mustang brand was a good idea- but that person and whoever signed off on it should be fired.

Agreed. It could be the best vehicle in the world but it shouldn’t be called a Mustang

pensfan83

andres3 said:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KYz4EBkL/2001-audi-s4-sedan

My new Audi's are not giving competition to Dodge for number of CEL lights encountered in ownership period. No competition at all actually. Maybe the one linked above could even up the scoreboard a bit....eventually......., maybe..... if I combine it with the V8 Quattro too.

I really liked driving my B5 A4 but it was a money pit, fussy to maintain, and I was in college with an income that should have had me in something cheaper. As soon as I landed with my current employer it was dumped.

explorerx4

BMW's are mostly know as fwd CUV's, so there's that.

roadburner

explorerx4 said:

BMW's are mostly know[sic] as fwd CUV's, so there's that.

You nailed it;, out of 15 vehicles, three are available in FWD.

breld

I actually saw a Mach-E on the way to work earlier this week. I tried catching up to it but never got closer than to see the rear. It had plates from out of state so I wonder if it was undergoing some high altitude testing.

Name not withstanding, I like the looks of it.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally an electric car for Roadburner. Although you might never want to go get your teeth drilled at the dentist ever again.

https://youtu.be/Y3846KFDmFQ

Not a chance, I don't know what idiot at Ford thought that diluting the Mustang brand was a good idea- but that person and whoever signed off on it should be fired.

On that I agree 100%.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

roadburner said:

oldfarmer50 said:

Finally an electric car for Roadburner. Although you might never want to go get your teeth drilled at the dentist ever again.

https://youtu.be/Y3846KFDmFQ

Not a chance, I don't know what idiot at Ford thought that diluting the Mustang brand was a good idea- but that person and whoever signed off on it should be fired.

Agreed. It could be the best vehicle in the world but it shouldn’t be called a Mustang

Why not just call it the Mach E and leave the Mustang out of it.?